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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by webincomeplus(m): 10:39pm On Mar 09
Ofunaofu:
Tinubu is now contracting questionable international media houses, cash and carry analysts to give the impression that the economic policies imposed by his government are working.

First it was Bloomberg claiming that some phantom billions are pouring in, now some Goldman Sachs analysts saying that naira will appreciate

The Truth is that anything outside returning the Naira to dollar exchange rate to N700/a dollar and 185/liter of PMS where he met it is a total balderdash. A confirmed failure

Tinubu cannot be whitewashed. No opinion of international media house or world economic analyst can change that
It's fine to disagree with anyone's opinion. But to call Goldman Sachs and Bloomberg "questionable" and even come up with a stupid allegation of them being contracted by Tinubu just because they aired an opinion you disagree with, leaves a lot to doubt about your education.

Provide the proof you have of Tinubu contracting them. Nairaland isn't a beer palour, please!

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Chickensoup: 10:41pm On Mar 09
Who made it N1,200-$1? Propaganda is what APC knows. Rather than believing, the internet is available. Browse and see for yourself.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by GeneralDae: 10:42pm On Mar 09
chaloskyx:
my question is why are other countries and outsiders determining the value of our Naira isnt that madness? can an african or Nigerian determing the value of the USD or Euro are you Nigerians not ashamed of yourselves in 2024 neo colonialists are still dictating your economy, who becomes your leader,yhe worth of your currency the strength of your passport and how you govern yourselves omo you Afticans and Nigerians are worthless fools abeg you should not exist as a people or Nation animals have more purpose and respect than you.
Methink you are overreacting here. Nobody stopped you or any Nigerian firm from stating what you think the actual value of the dollars or pounds is.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Blakjewelry(m): 10:45pm On Mar 09
Ikpunekenwa:


See nonsense story, where was this stories in 2011 to 2012.

That picture is 2014,and I know you were alive then.
Lol it is not a nonsense story because even they who were protesting knows the truth and when we tried to explain, they call us name. Its their herds who were deceived that were to be blame because they were used by the politicians, some of us are not blind to the truth. I told those who refused to listen back then that we were just postponing the inevitable.

Population is expanding so is the demand we will all enjoy the benefits at the long run, that doesn't mean the president is not to be blame because if we had done it back then, the effect would been lesser.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Tyg3rFvry: 10:48pm On Mar 09
Jlow2:
When ever international body like imf , world bank and sach whatever hail your policies be very suspicious of the looming havoc, these people re economic hit men.

I remember reading same thread here last year when Tinubu came to power that Goldman Sachs analysts see the real value of naira at 400, look where we are today.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by frankson1(m): 10:50pm On Mar 09
chaloskyx:
my question is why are other countries and outsiders determining the value of our Naira isnt that madness? can an african or Nigerian determing the value of the USD or Euro are you Nigerians not ashamed of yourselves in 2024 neo colonialists are still dictating your economy, who becomes your leader,yhe worth of your currency the strength of your passport and how you govern yourselves omo you Afticans and Nigerians are worthless fools abeg you should not exist as a people or Nation animals have more purpose and respect than you.



Mr. I Too Know, you're among the "worthless fools who shouldn't exist" for not knowing the history or story about the US dollar and why it's the world's strongest and widely used currency.

So instead of 'yapping' here and abusing your generations, why not take the time and do your studies and then come back to make an informed comment /statement.

There's no point asking for the names of the countries determining the value of the Naira because you're just 'capping'.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by commoditiesnig: 11:01pm On Mar 09
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by frankson1(m): 11:09pm On Mar 09
HenryWilliams:


You want them to give us the "Libya treatment"?

Anyone that opposes the use of dollars as the global tender will be destroyed by the US



Countries are beginning to wake up to this.

The ASEAN block have muted the idea of de-dollarization but I don't know if they would be successful in this.

BRICS have also muted or ditched the use of the dollar but I don't know if these two groups have completely stopped using the US dollar.

Russia and China are already trading with their local currencies.


For now, the US dollar will remain strong because;
The prices of Gold and Crude Oil etc are still tied to the US dollar.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by omoadeleye(m): 11:20pm On Mar 09
Ikpunekenwa:


Oga he said 6 months here, what is happening na, it is almost 9 years or do APC use another moon to calculate time because most of their brain is leaking.


My sentiment is That naira is going to ₦1300,
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by frankson1(m): 11:20pm On Mar 09
GeneralDae:

Nigeria has just two economic problems:

1) Lack of FX reserves
2) Poor Electricity Supply.

I still think before floating, we should have focussed first on selling the Warri refinery and one or two other assets to get FX. Then with such FX you can get the black market and official rate to unite around 600.
The official rate would just be devalued from 450 to 550 and with enough reserves, we could have brought the black market down from 760 to around 550/600.




Could this have been sustained because it all goes down to sustenance of whatever policy or policies that will be taking to defeat this weak currency 'pandemic'.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by kingxsamz(m): 11:33pm On Mar 09
Please we want it below 250 naira, the way the useIess, former so called president of Nigeria met it.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by fineboynl(m): 11:38pm On Mar 09
Tinubu is now lubbying foreign media and firms to say good things about this government. Only just hope it works for him and attract direct investment
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Ilekokonit: 11:49pm On Mar 09
Ofunaofu:
Tinubu cannot be whitewashed. No opinion of international media house or world economic analyst can change that

Don't mind the complicit criminals.

In the Country Goldman Sachs is from, Tinubu would have been in Prison if he stole a fraction of what he has been stealing from Lagos state for the past 25 years.

These UK, US and Western Banks turn a blind eye and suspend Know Your Customer rules when it comes to receiving stolen billions into their vaults from Corrupt Nigerian Politicians.

Teacher don't teach me nonsense.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by GeneralDae: 12:02am On Mar 10
frankson1:





Could this have been sustained because it all goes down to sustenance of whatever policy or policies that will be taking to defeat this weak currency 'pandemic'.
The problem we have today is that our net reserves are low. For many years, Emiefele was able to hide this fact by not exposing the CBN books fully. So we only knew our Gross reserves at around 37 Billion dollars then but no one knew our net reserves.

With poor net reserves, we had no choice but to devalue as we were only postponing the rainy day. Emiefele probably hoped that the Dangote refinery would come onstream soon to provide the needed FX.

When Asiwaju came on board and he devalued fast, there was only a little hike in interest rate and Tinubu gave the idea that a lower interest rate was more preferable. This may have sent mixed signals to foreign portfolio investors and so from July, they didn't bring in the dollars like they used to. Add to that the revelation of the CBN books as well as the report by JP Morgan that our net reserves were just a mere 3 Billion dollars. This 3 Billion dollars makes sense and shows why we couldn't pay a 7 Billion dollars backlog.

Markets hate uncertainty and so investments continued to reduce. Speculators also now began to suspect the CBN was powerless to defend the naira. Added to that, the CBN was not settled and only had an interim leader. With all of these, the naira was definitely bound to fall further throughout 2023.

All of what Cardoso is doing now, if he had began with them December, maybe the naira would not have gone past 1300. But again, Cardoso is focused on clearing the backlogs and MPC meeting was going to hold so late (in February).

So to answer your question, I would say I agree that it may not have been sustainable.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Anunakeeh: 12:05am On Mar 10
Ofunaofu:
Tinubu is now contracting questionable international media houses, cash and carry analysts to give the impression that the economic policies imposed by his government are working.

First it was Bloomberg claiming that some phantom billions are pouring in, now some Goldman Sachs analysts saying that naira will appreciate

The Truth is that anything outside returning the Naira to dollar exchange rate to N700/a dollar and 185/liter of PMS where he met it is a total balderdash. A confirmed failure

Tinubu cannot be whitewashed. No opinion of international media house or world economic analyst can change that

He should return the Dollar to N216 where the fooools met it before they came on board with their uselessness.

He should return Fuel to N97 where the fooools met it before they came on board with their uselessness.

Anything apart from this is nonsensical.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Anunakeeh: 12:09am On Mar 10
emkz:

https://nairametrics.com/2024/03/09/naira-looks-cheap-to-appreciate-to-n1200-1-goldman-sachs/

Meanwhile i think the FG needs to go after Goldman Sachs. They should be arrested for manipulating the Naira.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Pickieox(m): 12:19am On Mar 10
senatordave1:


Exactly except to the blind and senseless ones.naira was 1900 but has now decreased to 1500.does that not tell you that with more push,it will appreciate to 1000 by Dec


What are you saying? Are you really listening to yourself? Or is just that you are being blinded by tribalism🤣🤣🤣
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by cjfavour(m): 12:28am On Mar 10
As if Goldman sach didn't talk and made us to believe that things would be better during buhari admin. Are things better now? Any economics that doesn't reflect on the people is a bad economic policy.
ElSudani:


Goldman Sachs is talking economics and one village Obidient is talking too.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by cjfavour(m): 12:33am On Mar 10
Blaming emefiele about all these is hog wash and senseless. Emefiele didn't stop subsidy payment without plan nor float the naira.
Stop deceiving yourself.
GeneralDae:

The problem we have today is that our net reserves are low. For many years, Emiefele was able to hide this fact by not exposing the CBN books fully. So we only knew our Gross reserves at around 37 Billion dollars then but no one knew our net reserves.

With poor net reserves, we had no choice but to devalue as we were only postponing the rainy day. Emiefele probably hoped that the Dangote refinery would come onstream soon to provide the needed FX.

When Asiwaju came on board and he devalued fast, there was only a little hike in interest rate and Tinubu gave the idea that a lower interest rate was more preferable. This may have sent mixed signals to foreign portfolio investors and so from July, they didn't bring in the dollars like they used to. Add to that the revelation of the CBN books as well as the report by JP Morgan that our net reserves were just a mere 3 Billion dollars. This 3 Billion dollars makes sense and shows why we couldn't pay a 7 Billion dollars backlog.

Markets hate uncertainty and so investments continued to reduce. Speculators also now began to suspect the CBN was powerless to defend the naira. Added to that, the CBN was not settled and only had an interim leader. With all of these, the naira was definitely bound to fall further throughout 2023.

All of what Cardoso is doing now, if he had began with them December, maybe the naira would not have gone past 1300. But again, Cardoso is focused on clearing the backlogs and MPC meeting was going to hold so late (in February).

So to answer your question, I would say I agree that it may not have been sustainable.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Dancebreaker: 12:47am On Mar 10
Ofunaofu:
Tinubu is now contracting questionable international media houses, cash and carry analysts to give the impression that the economic policies imposed by his government are working.

First it was Bloomberg claiming that some phantom billions are pouring in, now some Goldman Sachs analysts saying that naira will appreciate

The Truth is that anything outside returning the Naira to dollar exchange rate to[b] N700/a dolla[/b]r and 185/liter of PMS where he met it is a total balderdash. A confirmed failure

Tinubu cannot be whitewashed. No opinion of international media house or world economic analyst can change that
No. They/APC said 216 to a dollar was too weak that GEJ was clueless and should go. They also opposed subsidy removal.
It must go to below 216 or APC and goons are the clueless ogogoro drinking, shoeless, certificateless age-forging retards.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by MasterTeeUSA: 1:11am On Mar 10
How do they even determine if a currency is overvalued or undervalued? This seems like another slave-master theory. Countries can determine what is an equal value of what to what...why wait on a foreign company with biased interests.



emkz:

https://nairametrics.com/2024/03/09/naira-looks-cheap-to-appreciate-to-n1200-1-goldman-sachs/
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by danowena: 2:30am On Mar 10
senatordave1:


Goldman Sachs an international firm with repute is now questionable?
Don’t you know some people are plainly silly? Same people that shout he forged a document that the university confirmed?
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Nickelodeon93: 2:39am On Mar 10
commoditiesnig:

Excellent analysis.
do you always say you hear kind of things to impress people or what? Anyway even if your excellent analysis… save this post for later.. in 12 months time (that is 10th March 2025, if dollar ever becomes 1200 to Naira..) I will give you $100
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Oyinbo1886: 2:43am On Mar 10
The root of it is simple...supply and demand.

If you run an online business, as many people in Nigeria are doing or trying to do, and you are going global, what are you going to charge in, NGN? Nope, you are going to charge in USD or EUR, or even GBP, since all three of these are traded internationally. And even in Nigeria, the people are scooping up USD as fast as they can get their hands on them, since the USD is rising against the NGN.

Also, Nigeria is importing more than it is exporting, so it is at the mercy of paying whatever currency the producer of those imported goods are demanding, and that is mostly in USD. The economy has become consumptive, rather than productive.

So you have a demand of the USD, which everyone wants to use, and a supply of the NGN, which no one wants to use. And what happens when you have a huge supply and shrinking demand? Devaluation. Let's not be fooled by what the politicians are saying, the naira is not in demand by the world market, and has even broken in and "infested" many African economies. Look at the GHS, the KSH, the GMD, the CFA, and see what has happened. They are also devaluing...no one wants them, but they are hooked on the USD.

Na, dis oyinbo no wan wahala fa Najia, and e no wan wahala for Africa ooo! I dey American, but I no dey blind by Americanism ooo. I truly think that the power rests in the hands of the people, and I honestly believe that the people can come up with far better solutions than Tinubu, dat anụ ọhịa. The economy needs to be fumigated from the U.S. dollar and weaned off that "dollar cocaine" that has hooked so many leaders. What I would like to see, personally, is a reversal of African economies where they no longer rely on imports. Africa is rich in resources and can very well sustain itself. but again, the people have to make their voices heard, and not just at the ballot box. And perhaps, the African Union can come up with its own currency like the EU did with the Euro. The [/b]major[b] difference is that Africa has more resources to choose from when it comes to how they are going to back it, they can back it with petrol, metals (gold included), diamonds, and other resources.

And this I speak on as a Forex/crypto trader, another enterprise in which Nigerians are finding a lot of opportunity.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Bfly: 3:20am On Mar 10
12months,
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by cjudy(m): 3:32am On Mar 10
senatordave1:


Exactly except to the blind and senseless ones.naira was 1900 but has now decreased to 1500.does that not tell you that with more push,it will appreciate to 1000 by Dec
Who told you dollar is 1500 Oga?

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Codeye(m): 4:02am On Mar 10
successmatters:
Goldman Sachs are now the people running the exchange rate, after they noticed that the Nigerians in power are illiterates grin
In a bit of rush to type fast,you typed rubbish.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by TrainPark: 4:20am On Mar 10
senatordave1:


Goldman Sachs an international firm with repute is now questionable?

YES SIR!

The same Goldmann Sachs with repute wrecked the US economy leading to the global economic meltdown.

Therefore, they a bunch of economic frauds doing the bidding of their own masters and for their own interests.

We all know that these organizations are extensions of the US government and other imperial powers working to maintain their economic and political advantages over other foolish countries that fall for their charm.

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Thundafireseun: 4:45am On Mar 10
Blackfire:
1200



Multiply it by 2



grin

They don’t know

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Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by yommen: 5:41am On Mar 10
successmatters:
Goldman Sachs are now the people running the exchange rate, after they noticed that the Nigerians in power are illiterates grin

We know people like you who only read headlines and don't want good things for Nigeria.
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Elidrisy20: 6:24am On Mar 10
Na only Nigeria and naira dey una eyez for this world
Re: Goldman Sachs: Naira Looks Cheap, To Appreciate To N1,200/$1 by Ikpunekenwa(m): 7:05am On Mar 10
Blakjewelry:

Lol it is not a nonsense story because even they who were protesting knows the truth and when we tried to explain, they call us name. Its their herds who were deceived that were to be blame because they were used by the politicians, some of us are not blind to the truth. I told those who refused to listen back then that we were just postponing the inevitable.

Population is expanding so is the demand we will all enjoy the benefits at the long run, that doesn't mean the president is not to be blame because if we had done it back then, the effect would been lesser.

Bro leave every other talk, even if you are APC, you are very wise, do you know why I said so, you argued objectively and substantwntially, mere mentioning that population increment is enough flare or trigger an economic crisis.

Have a nice weekend.

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