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Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Frigga13: 4:04pm On Mar 12
FxMasterz:


I have seen some traces of his demonic arrogance before on a deliverance from cultism thread. The OP who created the thread even sounded an alarm on him, he continued unperturbed. In that thread, he was arrogating some things unto himself. I can't remember exactly but he was seeing himself as some special human in a category higher than everyone including the apostles. I don't know if I'm correct, but it was something like that. I dismissed it though, thinking he was just being childish. This thread now exposes his true colour. He's an agent of hell. He doesn't even know Jesus.

Honestly
He don’t know Jesus Christ.. and have not been saved.. talk more backslide.

He believes he knows more than the Holy Spirit as discards scripture .. simply because His god revealed to him

Will always be on his post to tell Christians his real face ..

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Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by FxMasterz: 4:53pm On Mar 12
Frigga13:


Honestly
He don’t know Jesus Christ.. and have not been saved.. talk more backslide.

He believes he knows more than the Holy Spirit as discards scripture .. simply because His god revealed to him

Will always be on his post to tell Christians his real face ..

Nice one.

Charlatans like this must not be allowed to subvert the faith of young believers.

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Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16pm On Mar 12
Walahi talahi Jesus is Lord among these fifu! cheesy

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Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Ken4Christ: 10:07pm On Mar 12
jesusjnr2020:


True Christians believe Jesus and Jesus alone built His church as He taught us in His Word.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You should clearly see for yourselves how Paul has taken over the place of Christ in the heart of Paulians.

That probably explains why you have a dead and powerless church today because it wasn't built by Jesus.

God bless.

Who called Paul?
Who gave him the revelations he wrote?

The answer to both questions is Jesus.

Stop displaying your ignorance.

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Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Mar 13
Ken4Christ:

Who called Paul?
Who gave him the revelations he wrote?
The answer to both questions is Jesus.
Stop displaying your ignorance.

Don't worry this are trivial issues as long as he believes Jesus is Lord and Hellfire! cheesy

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Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 11:09am On Mar 13
MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi Jesus is Lord among these fifu! cheesy

What is the difference between jws and the OP?

Remember you and your brother always says the Prophets and Apostles made mistake as well and that doesn't stop them of being used by God when defending watchtower past errors and reason why watchtower is still the only true followers of Christ today.

So, were the mistakes the Apostles made happened within their teachings as seen in watchtower publications or outside their teachings?
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Ken4Christ: 1:13pm On Mar 13
MaxInDHouse:


Don't worry this are trivial issues as long as he believes Jesus is Lord and Hellfire! cheesy

What makes it trivial? Did Paul ever knew he was going to be a minister of the Lord. He persecuted the church and killed some saints until his encounter with Jesus. Why do you suppose such a person with such divine encounter will lie that he received revelations from Jesus. If his revelations are from Jesus, why are some ignorant people trying to attack his message? Even you don't believe the message Paul got by revelation.
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:31pm On Mar 13
Emusan:

What is the difference between jws and the OP?

We are Jehovah's Witnesses so you can meet millions of people having the same line of thought as we do and they are our fellow believers but ask the OP which church is teaching what he's saying! cheesy
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:33pm On Mar 13
Ken4Christ:

What makes it trivial? Did Paul ever knew he was going to be a minister of the Lord. He persecuted the church and killed some saints until his encounter with Jesus. Why do you suppose such a person with such divine encounter will lie that he received revelations from Jesus. If his revelations are from Jesus, why are some ignorant people trying to attack his message? Even you don't believe the message Paul got by revelation.

Face your trinitarian Hellfire people we know our brothers and Paul is the only connection between gentiles and Christ Jesus! wink
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 3:23pm On Mar 13
MaxInDHouse:
We are Jehovah's Witnesses so you can meet millions of people having the same line of thought as we do and they are our fellow believers but ask the OP which church is teaching what he's saying! cheesy

That was not the question I asked you.

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:40pm On Mar 13
Emusan:

That was not the question I asked you.
Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?
Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

You asked

What is the difference between jws and the OP?

We are organized globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES while your OP can't present any group sharing his thoughts though he claims Christians those criticizing him also claim the same!
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 3:50pm On Mar 13
MaxInDHouse:


You asked
We are organized globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES while your OP can't present any group sharing his thoughts though he claims Christians those criticizing him also claim the same!

That's not my only question.

Don't use your old format grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Here they are again:

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Aemmyjah(m): 4:02pm On Mar 13
MaxInDHouse:


You asked



We are organized globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES while your OP can't present any group sharing his thoughts though he claims Christians those criticizing him also claim the same!

2 Corinthians 13:11
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)
Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to[b] be readjusted[/b], to be comforted,+ to think in agreement,+ to live peaceably;+ and the God of love and of peace+ will be with you.

We thank JEHOVAH for refinement and readjustment and we humbly accept
Shameless trinitarians are ashamed of such and that's where they have no real agreement and unity
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30pm On Mar 13
Emusan:

That's not my only question.
Don't use your old format grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Here they are again:
Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?
Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

Why not first respond to the one i answered nah? smiley
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:31pm On Mar 13
Aemmyjah:


2 Corinthians 13:11
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)
Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to[b] be readjusted[/b], to be comforted,+ to think in agreement,+ to live peaceably;+ and the God of love and of peace+ will be with you.

We thank JEHOVAH for refinement and readjustment and we humbly accept
Shameless trinitarians are ashamed of such and that's where they have no real agreement and unity

He wants to dodge the real subject that brought me here! grin
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 6:47pm On Mar 13
MaxInDHouse:


Why not first respond to the one i answered nah? smiley

You should have first answered all my questions.

So why did you boycott them? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:21pm On Mar 13
Ken4Christ:


Who called Paul?
Who gave him the revelations he wrote?

The answer to both questions is Jesus.

Stop displaying your ignorance.
You're either a liar or you think Paul is.

Paul himself said not all he wrote was given to him by Jesus, not me.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Obviously the level of your blindness would not still be able to see that fact. You need special deliverance.
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:12am On Mar 14
Emusan:

You should have first answered all my questions. So why did you boycott them? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Settle the confusion among your fellow religionists that's what the Governing Body does among Jehovah's Witnesses, if we tell you people that you're not Christians but pagans you will be prepared to insult us.
According to Jesus his disciples must be one in thought regarding their beliefs {John 17:22} and he uses the GOVERNING BODY to do that {Act 2:42} but since you people don't agree on the order set by Christ Jesus there will never be such oneness in your midst.
So face the fact or settle whatever difference is making your so called "Christians" contradict one another.
That's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses unique before you can speak sincerely about faith the first thing you have to do is single out the group that's teaching what Jesus laid down not just anxious to insult whoever demands to know such a group! wink
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 9:01am On Mar 14
Yet he didn't still answer my questions but just jumping around.

MaxInDHouse:
Settle the confusion among your fellow religionists that's what the Governing Body does among Jehovah's Witnesses, if we tell you people that you're not Christians but pagans you will be prepared to insult us.
According to Jesus his disciples must be one in thought regarding their beliefs {John 17:22} and he uses the GOVERNING BODY to do that {Act 2:42} but since you people don't agree on the order set by Christ Jesus there will never be such oneness in your midst.
So face the fact or settle whatever difference is making your so called "Christians" contradict one another.
That's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses unique before you can speak sincerely about faith the first thing you have to do is single out the group that's teaching what Jesus laid down not just anxious to insult whoever demands to know such a group! wink

Here are my questions again:

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:12am On Mar 14
Emusan:
Yet he didn't still answer my questions but just jumping around.
Here are my questions again:
Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?
Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

So many people are quoting the OP and telling him what's wrong in his opinion but you left all of them to jump at me simply because of my own religion that's why i'm asking you to name the religion of the OP otherwise your questions are irrelevant! smiley
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 11:21am On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
So many people are quoting the OP and telling him what's wrong in his opinion but you left all of them to jump at me simply because of my own religion that's why i'm asking you to name the religion of the OP otherwise your questions are irrelevant! smiley

You didn't know that before engaging my post cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Meanwhile, my post is still in line with the OP.

So, here are my questions again:

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:43am On Mar 14
Emusan:


You didn't know that before engaging my post cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Meanwhile, my post is still in line with the OP.

So, here are my questions again:

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

I never engaged you because i know you have nothing tangible to offer so if you're interested in my post tell me the name of your own church or that of the OP that's the only way to resolve all these nonsense otherwise your questions are irrelevant to my post! wink
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 12:17pm On Mar 14
MaxInDHouse:
I never engaged you because i know you have nothing tangible to offer so if you're interested in my post tell me the name of your own church or that of the OP that's the only way to resolve all these nonsense otherwise your questions are irrelevant to my post! wink

As usual still dancing around like a naked fowl

You didn't engage me but I do see your mention on my timeline cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Well, my question are still there and it's so common on you people to be dancing around simple question that requires just Yes or No! Why? because it will expose the lies and propaganda.

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Yes or No

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

Yes or No!

grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Maximus692(m): 3:24pm On Mar 14
Emusan:


As usual still dancing around like a naked fowl

You didn't engage me but I do see your mention on my timeline cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Well, my question are still there and it's so common on you people to be dancing around simple question that requires just Yes or No! Why? because it will expose the lies and propaganda.

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Yes or No

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

Yes or No!

grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

I worship with the Watchtower group now what is the name of your own group or the OP's group? smiley
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 5:55pm On Mar 14
Maximus692:
I worship with the Watchtower group now what is the name of your own group or the OP's group? smiley

That is not answer to my questions.

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

Yes or No

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

Yes or No!

Once you answer my questions all your questions will also be answered.
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Maximus692(m): 6:26pm On Mar 14
Emusan:

That is not answer to my questions.
Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?
Yes or No
Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?
Yes or No!
Once you answer my questions all your questions will also be answered.


You mentioned Watchtower and that's the group i worship with so before you can talk to me about the doctrine of Watchtower you must tell this forum the name of the group you worship with otherwise nothing for you! smiley
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by LordReed(m): 7:00pm On Mar 14
jesusjnr2020:


True Christians believe Jesus and Jesus alone built His church as He taught us in His Word.

Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You should clearly see for yourselves how Paul has taken over the place of Christ in the heart of Paulians.

That probably explains why you have a dead and powerless church today because it wasn't built by Jesus.

God bless.

As powerless as you I guess. Bwahahahahahahaha! Sun stand still, remember? LMFAO!
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Emusan(m): 7:21pm On Mar 14
Maximus692:
You mentioned Watchtower and that's the group i worship with so before you can talk to me about the doctrine of Watchtower you must tell this forum the name of the group you worship with otherwise nothing for you! smiley

But you called me Pagan!

So demanding for the name of a group I worship shows something is wrong upstairs cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin

Meanwhile the questions are still:

Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?
Yes or No

Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?
Yes or No!
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Maximus692(m): 8:08pm On Mar 14
Emusan:

But you called me Pagan!

YES! Pagans are people with no unique beliefs that they can stand for as their own amidst the rest. So if someone is a worshiper of Ṣàngó but really proud of his god out of all others ever ready to prove that Ṣàngó is the god that everyone must worship to us he is one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel so we need to help him see the true God with his sharp eyes of faith.
But if someone is claiming Christian yet out of thousands of different religions claiming that they are Christians he couldn't stand for any of them such a person is a pagan.

You can insult but that's the truth for you! smiley
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Ken4Christ: 8:44pm On Mar 14
jesusjnr2020:
You're either a liar or you think Paul is.

Paul himself said not all he wrote was given to him by Jesus, not me.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Obviously the level of your blindness would not still be able to see that fact. You need special deliverance.

This shows how humble Paul was. However, it was only a few times he said to a thing like this. It also implies that every other things he said was from the Lord.

Only one or two instructions out of hundreds of instructions are his opinions. And they are reasonable opinions. So, most of the instructions contained in his letters are the Lord's command.
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by Maximus692(m): 8:58pm On Mar 14
Ken4Christ:

Only one or two instructions out of hundreds of instructions are his opinions. And they are reasonable opinions. So, most of the instructions contained in his letters are the Lord's command.

Whatever the Apostles decrees on earth has been granted in heaven {Matthew 16:19} Paul's opinion has become a law for all those claiming Christians among gentiles because Jesus singlehandedly chose him! Act 9:15
Re: Paulians Believe Jesus Only Laid The Foundation Of Church But Paul Built Upon It by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:38am On Mar 15
Ken4Christ:


This shows how humble Paul was. However, it was only a few times he said to a thing like this. It also implies that every other things he said was from the Lord.

Only one or two instructions out of hundreds of instructions are his opinions. And they are reasonable opinions. So, most of the instructions contained in his letters are the Lord's command.
I will give it to you, at least you're humble enough to accept this thing he said himself, even though it goes against your initial belief that all he said were inspired of God, unlike some others who will keep arguing blindly despite how glaringly this saying of Paul disproves of their erroneous belief.

For that I will not try to drag this particular matter any further with you, but just pray and hope that God reveals to you anywhere you're walking in error so that you'd not find yourself misleading His sheep even though ignorantly. John 21:15-17

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