PROVERBZ:
Those of you who know the Bible very well know that islams messianic figures, Isa bin Mariam and imam mahdi fit the description of the first and second beast.

AntiChristian:


List the descriptions of first and second beast that Jesus son of Mary and Imam Mahdi fits from your Bible?

To kickstart the discussions I would make a list of what the Muslims believe concerning Jesus son of Mary!

We will refer to Jesus as ‘Eesa throughout this article.

I will like to inform you that among what a Muslim must ''believe in'' is to believe in the Prophets as stated in the authentic Islamic texts. This Prophets includes Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Isma'eel (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Yaqoob (Jacob), Ayyob (Job), Yoonus (Jonah), Haroon (Aaron), Sulaiman (Solomon), Dawud (David), Idrees (Enoch), Dhul Kifl (Isaiah), Lut (Lot), Zakariyya (Zachariah), Ilyaas (Elijah), Al-Yasa (Elisha), Yahya (John), 'Eesa (Jesus) and Muhammad (Peace be upon them all). And the knowledge of their numbers belongs to Allah only! We believe all of them were sent by Allah to certain set of people. Some were given Inspired Books like Torah (Musa), Zabur (Dawud) Injeel ('Eesa), Qur'an (Muhammad), etc.

The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him).

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.

AntiChristian:


List the descriptions of first and second beast that Jesus son of Mary and Imam Mahdi fits from your Bible?

To kickstart the discussions I would make a list of what the Muslims believe concerning Jesus son of Mary!

We will refer to Jesus as ‘Eesa throughout this article.

I will like to inform you that among what a Muslim must ''believe in'' is to believe in the Prophets as stated in the authentic Islamic texts. This Prophets includes Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Isma'eel (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Yaqoob (Jacob), Ayyob (Job), Yoonus (Jonah), Haroon (Aaron), Sulaiman (Solomon), Dawud (David), Idrees (Enoch), Dhul Kifl (Isaiah), Lut (Lot), Zakariyya (Zachariah), Ilyaas (Elijah), Al-Yasa (Elisha), Yahya (John), 'Eesa (Jesus) and Muhammad (Peace be upon them all). And the knowledge of their numbers belongs to Allah only! We believe all of them were sent by Allah to certain set of people. Some were given Inspired Books like Torah (Musa), Zabur (Dawud) Injeel ('Eesa), Qur'an (Muhammad), etc.

The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him).

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.

PROVERBZ:
■ Those of you who know the Bible very well know that islams messianic figures, Isa bin Mariam and imam mahdi fit the description of the first and second beast. However, recent discoveries by me also points out the Jewish messiah as a candidate even tho he does not match the description.
My conclusion is that the Jewish messiah is a mini anti christ. As it was said that there would be many anti christs.
■ Recall that the main antichrist would sign a peace treaty between his people and the Jews. This statements cancels the Jewish messiah from contention. What do you guys think?? I pray God helps us to see the truth.

AntiChristian:
■ List the descriptions of first and second beast that Jesus son of Mary and Imam Mahdi fits from your Bible?

■ To kickstart the discussions I would make a list of what the Muslims believe concerning Jesus son of Mary!

Kobojunkie:
1. Second beast?

2. The very fact that in Scripture, Jesus Christ said He was sent ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel, going as far as to warn that dogs -- Nonisraelites -- not be given that which is Holy, the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, means every religion that teaches otherwise is Antichrist in orientation. That means Judaism, Christianity and equally Islam are all Antichrist.

While on earth, Jesus Christ disavowed the religious system of His time--- Judaism at the time--- stressing that the doctrines and traditions of men were lies were the Truth of God was concerned. Jesus Christ never changed His mind about the general statement He made regarding religions so it is safe to conclude that religions are indeed Antichrist.

PROVERBZ:
all this one na bulabla. If your faith in your religion was strong, u would not care to defend it based on Christian scripture because to you, Christian scripture has no authority.

That’s the way I feel about Muslim scripture. It has no authority, so any claim it makes, I just laugh and don’t try to twist Islamic scripture to Exonerate my messiah.

Christian scripture is clear. ‘That which denies the father and the son is the anti christ.’ Both jews and Muslims fall into this category.

Watch video to see the descriptions u asked about being compared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7brGOAzBI?si=6qIg3VNXI96Tg74g

TenQ:

Muslims as usual:
You will ask them one question and they will answer a completely different one for you. Who asked you about what Muslims believe about Jesus?

Let me ask you a question from what you believe.

According to my knowledge of islam, when Jesus comes, he will do three things
1. Kill the Dajjal
2. Kill the Pigs (Destroy the Jews)
3. Break the Crosses (Convert Christians to Islam)

You didn't ask me and I didn't respond to you!

How will the judgment day come when the whole world are already Muslims and worshipping only Allah?

AntiChristian:
∆ Yeah, I asked him that question according to what he asked mentioning me!
∆ We know you own case dey separate!
All those are your own interpretations!