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Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 9:33am On Mar 23
This is a continuation to the first part. Those who have not read the first part should check on my profile.

Why did theologians and Christians, Muslims, Judaist, and almost every other person conclude that Eve was the helper God mentioned in the Genesis? It’s simply because of a statement in Genesis 2:18:

“It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.”

Where are the errors?
The first error in the popular interpretation is the misinterpretation of the word “make” in the statement. The word “make” popularly means “to create something” in English language, so most people assume that God was saying, “I will create him an help meet for him.”

However, the word also means “to perform, to carry out” in English language but this meaning is not as popular as the first so most people do not interpret the verse in this context. Plus, their understanding of the purpose of life tends to affect their ability to interpret the verse—those who think marriage and child-bearing is the purpose of life will see no other person needed for that purpose other than Eve, as only a woman (not God or animals) can help a man have children.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 9:35am On Mar 23
Yet, the word translated as “make” means “to do, to perform, to show, or to provide” in Hebrew. The same word was used in other parts of Genesis (Gen. 18:29, 18:30, 27:37, 30:30, 31:43, etc.) and none of it means “to create.”

Therefore, the statement God made was, “I will perform him an help meet for him; I will do him an help meet for him; I will show him an help meet for him; I will provide him an help meet for him.” The statement reveals God as the provider/doer/performer of this help in line with other usage of the word in similar contexts. God is the provider of the Help Adam needed and not Eve, and his sin was initiated by listening to Eve who was not his helper.

The second error in the popular interpretation is this:
We (Yes, I have made the mistake several times till I saw it) often assume that the phrase “help meet” is the same as the word “helpmate” but that is not the case. The phrase “help meet” is only relevant in the statement. It means “the help will be meet for Adam.”

So God says “I will make him an “help that is meet” for him” and this statement can be rephrased as “I will make him an help meet for him”
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 9:35am On Mar 23
The word “meet” denotes presence. Not just presence but a continual presence. So God said, “I will show him help by my presence continually” Which is supposed to indicate that Adam will be continually helped by the presence of God and outside the presence of God, Adam shall not be helped and he shall labour.

This is why the whole of the scripture and the psalms is dedicated to correcting this our idea by consistently revealing God as our helper and provider.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 6:01pm On Mar 23
God was the helper, companion and support for Adam. This is the whole context of the scripture.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Iamanoited: 7:55am On Mar 24
EVE WAS A SPOILER 100%.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Iamanoited: 7:58am On Mar 24
EVE WAS A SPOILER 100%.


SHE DIDN'T WANT TO HELP ANYONE ELSE. SHE REMAINED SELFISH TO THE END.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by budaatum: 5:32pm On Mar 24
Iamanoited:
EVE WAS A SPOILER 100%.


SHE DIDN'T WANT TO HELP ANYONE ELSE. SHE REMAINED SELFISH TO THE END.

Yet we read that after she nourished herself with knowledge and her eyes had opened, she unselfishly nourished ignorant naked Adam so his eyes opened too, and both freed themselves from slavery and became self employed and went on to populate the earth together.

But I guess some would rather remain naked and enslaved than free individuals, so I suppose I get your point.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense#117010138
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by budaatum: 5:43pm On Mar 24
Eve was not Adam's helper. Eve was Adam's saviour!

If not for Eve, Adam would have remained naked and enslaved forever!

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Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Iamanoited: 10:58pm On Mar 24
budaatum:


Yet we read that after she nourished herself with knowledge and her eyes had opened, she unselfishly nourished ignorant naked Adam so his eyes opened too, and both freed themselves from slavery and became self employed and went on to populate the earth together.

But I guess some would rather remain naked and enslaved than free individuals, so I suppose I get your point.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/7351620/story-adam-eve-makes-sense#117010138

God had His own Plan and methods to populate and free humanity. In the Plan, were Schedules of Time, Actions, Interactions and Movements for Control and Success of the Plans and Programs. The point here is Disobedience of God's Order and the Humanity is suffering the Consequences of this Disobedience till today.
Now you cannot get "ETERNAL LIFE" till you work and pray for it IJN.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by budaatum: 11:21pm On Mar 24
Iamanoited:


God had His own Plan and methods to populate and free humanity.

And that plan, after creating me in his image, was to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground", and in return God "gives you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And it was so".

So explain to me why I would then consider myself to be naked ignorant Adam who was "formed from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life" and was told not to eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil?

If I demoted you from God's image to rule and subdue, to dust of the ground to tend a tiny garden, would you not object, especially if I cut your pay?

Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Iamanoited: 5:08am On Mar 25
"If I demoted you from God's image to rule and subdue, to dust of the ground to tend a tiny garden, would you not object, especially if I cut your pay"?

I will object to The Master and be corrected before I proceed further.
I will not play HAMAS in GAZA nor PUTIN to ZELENSKY in UKRAINE.
GOD IS I AM. GOD IS NOT "YOU ARE".
AND WHEN YOU DISOBEY AND YOU ARE RECKLESS, YOU WILL SUFFER AND BE PUNISHED.
ADAM WAS "MUMU". EVE MADE HIM MUMU. EVE TRIED TO BE MADAM NOT A HELPER. AND GOD PUNISHED THEM ACCORDINGLY.


Orisa37
Always recognize Your Master in all circumstances.
I AM THAT I AM, THE ALMIGHTY.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by budaatum: 6:11am On Mar 25
Iamanoited:

ADAM WAS "MUMU".

I can't agree with you more. Only a mumu would walk past a tree of knowledge and not pluck to eat because they believe that nourishing themself with knowledge would kill them.

Thankfully, Eve was intelligent enough to check with her own senses to see if it would kill her only to find that "the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom".

Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 6:39am On Mar 25
Do no mind the distractors on this thread. Focus on the subject matter. God was the helper Adam required and not the woman.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 3:43pm On Mar 30
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Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by budaatum: 4:06pm On Mar 30
God did not require a helper!

God, we read, had completed all God's work in Genesis 1 long before Adam and Eve were created in 2, and in fact had created humans, both male and female in God's own image in 1, not to help, but to rule and subdue and multiply!

You got to wonder who then enslaved Adam and Eve in a garden, and why, because it is obvious that those who brought us the book were not working naked in a garden, but had eaten the fruits of knowledge which empowered them to rule the earth and the seas and subdue and multiply.
Re: Eve Was Not Adam's Helper Part 2 by Techobeys: 6:58pm On Apr 06
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