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CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 1:15pm On Mar 24


CNG Question and answer (Public Sensitization)

Compressed Natural Gas.

This thread is to address ALL questions Related to Natural Gas and compressed natural gas CNG in the automotive sector .

Currently in Nigeria the government through the presidential CNG initiative has spearheaded rapid implementation in the automotive sector.

I will be answering all questions regarding CNG and auto installations, the aim is to sensitize the general public on how CNG works and clear all doubts .

If you are a professional in this field kindly contribute.

GazzuzzCNG

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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 1:15pm On Mar 24
Frequently asked questions.

Where can I find Autogas retail CNG in my state.

As at 24th March 2023

Abuja : 2 stations Nipco
Abia: Not Available
Adamawa: Not Available
Akwa Ibom: oron Nipco
Anambra: Not Available
Bauchi: Not Available
Bayelsa: Not Available
Benue: Not Available
Borno: Not Available
Cross River: Not Available
Delta, Warri Nipco
Ebonyi Not Available
Edo Benin 6 stations Nipco
Ekiti Not Available
Enugu Not Available
Gombe: Not Available
Imo: Not Available
Jigawa: Not Available
Kaduna: Not Available
Kano: Not Available
Katsina: Not Available
Kebbi: Not Available
Kogi: Okene, lokoja (nipco) , obajana (Dangote)
Kwara: Not Available
Lagos: ikorodu BHN
Nasarawa: Not Available
Niger: Not Available
Ogun: Ibafo (Nipco)
Ondo: Not Available
Osun: Not Available
Oyo: Ibadan (Nipco)
Plateau: Not Available
Rivers: Not Available
Sokoto: Not Available
Taraba: Not Available
Yobe: Not Available
Zamfara: Not Available


Will be updating this list regularly as more Autogas refill stations emerge

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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 1:15pm On Mar 24
How much does it cost to convert my vehicle .

All the parts required for conversion are imported. The prices of these parts are tied to FX. I will be using U.S Dollar prices for parts and labor so we can all have stable pricing irrespective of FX fluctuation .

These are installations with single cylinders factored in.

The average prices are as follows:

4Cyl $815

V6 $900

V8 $970

These are average prices.







Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by adeememman(m): 1:51pm On Mar 24
GAZZUZZ:
Frequently asked questions.

Where can I find Autogas retail CNG in my state.

As at 24th March 2023

Abuja : 2 stations Nipco
Abia: Not Available
Adamawa: Not Available
Akwa Ibom: oron Nipco
Anambra: Not Available
Bauchi: Not Available
Bayelsa: Not Available
Benue: Not Available
Borno: Not Available
Cross River: Not Available
Delta, Warri Nipco
Ebonyi Not Available
Edo Benin 6 stations Nipco
Ekiti Not Available
Enugu Not Available
Gombe: Not Available
Imo: Not Available
Jigawa: Not Available
Kaduna: Not Available
Kano: Not Available
Katsina: Not Available
Kebbi: Not Available
Kogi: Okene, lokoja (nipco) , obajana (Dangote)
Kwara: Not Available
Lagos: ikorodu BHN
Nasarawa: Not Available
Niger: Not Available
Ogun: Ibafo (Nipco)
Ondo: Not Available
Osun: Not Available
Oyo: Ibadan (Nipco)
Plateau: Not Available
Rivers: Not Available
Sokoto: Not Available
Taraba: Not Available
Yobe: Not Available
Zamfara: Not Available


Will be updating this list regularly as more Autogas refill stations emerge

This is poor considering the promise made by govt to cushion the effect of subsidy removal

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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Emekayoung(m): 10:51pm On Mar 24
Nipco is really trying o 🤔
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by MasterJayJay: 1:04pm On Mar 25
From your list, we can conclude that CNG is almost not available in Nigeria.

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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by SeeWahala: 3:47pm On Mar 25
MasterJayJay:
From your list, we can conclude that CNG is almost not available in Nigeria.

CNG is available at select locations in only 8 / 36 states in nigeria today?cry
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by 3ncrypted: 8:54pm On Mar 26
Hello Gazzuzz.
I follow with keen interest on CNG. I watched most of the videos you posted on Youtube, including the recent one on Ford F150. Here are some questions I have.
1. Follow the initiative by the government (talking about P-CNGi), has it helped with the costing of converting cars to CNG by any percent?
2. If one wishes to convert his generator and gas stove to CNG as you did in the video, is it possible and what will be the cost? In this case, you are not converting a car, just the stove and generator.

By the way, you are doing a nice job. Cheers
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 6:57am On Mar 27
3ncrypted:
Hello Gazzuzz.
I follow with keen interest on CNG. I watched most of the videos you posted on Youtube, including the recent one on Ford F150. Here are some questions I have.
1. Follow the initiative by the government (talking about P-CNGi), has it helped with the costing of converting cars to CNG by any percent?
2. If one wishes to convert his generator and gas stove to CNG as you did in the video, is it possible and what will be the cost? In this case, you are not converting a car, just the stove and generator.

By the way, you are doing a nice job. Cheers

The government through the PCNGI already started by converting a number vehicles in the public sector for free. It is a continuous quiet process that is not heavily publicized reason we all don't get to hear about it. Currently The army is receiving free training and free kits for a number of military vehicles via the PCNGI, gradually it will trickle down in phases as the kits arrive .


For number 2 there are 2 options. One is attaching the cylinders and reducers to a vehicle .

The other is a standalone device which I have invented but not released pending a patent .

The standalone device should become very popular very soon. You can dm on Whatsapp for more info on that .




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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by laudate: 2:21am On Mar 31
GAZZUZZ:


The government through the PCNGI already started by converting a number vehicles in the public sector for free. It is a continuous quiet process that is not heavily publicized reason we all don't get to hear about it. Currently The army is receiving free training and free kits for a number of military vehicles via the PCNGI, gradually it will trickle down in phases as the kits arrive .


For number 2 there are 2 options. One is attaching the cylinders and reducers to a vehicle .

The other is a standalone device which I have invented but not released pending a patent .

The standalone device should become very popular very soon. You can dm on Whatsapp for more info on that .


"Conversion of cars for the public for free," is nothing more than empty propaganda. Please do not peddle this false tale.

Most of the vehicles converted so far, are just for govt ministries.

Even under Buhari, cars were converted to run on Autogas LPG for PPPRA, and NNPC subsidiaries.

Then they claimed that over a million Autogas kits were imported, which was a big fat lie!

Autogas conversion kits are expensive. They run into hundreds of thousands of naira, per vehicle. Not cheap. A few Innoson buses were also converted for Labour, which was less than 10 units.

So for government to offer free conversion to the public, it would cost multimillions of naira, which they cannot do for now.

Finally, you did not answer his question about converting diesel generator to gas. How would this be done?

To the best of my knowledge, only EGORAS in Anambra has been able to do this successfully, with minimal issues.
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:58am On Mar 31
laudate:


"Conversion of cars for the public for free," is nothing more than empty propaganda. Please do not peddle this false tale.

Most of the vehicles converted so far, are just for govt ministries.

Even under Buhari, cars were converted to run on Autogas LPG for PPPRA, and NNPC subsidiaries.

Then they claimed that over a million Autogas kits were imported, which was a big fat lie!

Autogas conversion kits are expensive. They run into hundreds of thousands of naira, per vehicle. Not cheap. A few Innoson buses were also converted for Labour, which was less than 10 units.

So for government to offer free conversion to the public, it would cost multimillions of naira, which they cannot do for now.

Finally, you did not answer his question about converting diesel generator to gas. How would this be done?

To the best of my knowledge, only EGORAS in Anambra has been able to do this successfully, with minimal issues.

Compression ignition and spark ignition are 2 totally different systems.

While you can lower the amount of diesel burnt by feeding a blend mix of CNG or lpg , it is still a technology I currently do not subscribe to.

A full conversion which involves , cylinder head swap, pistons, and the introduction of a spark ignition system is a more expensive but stable approach.
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by laudate: 5:54pm On Mar 31
GAZZUZZ:

Compression ignition and spark ignition are 2 totally different systems.

While you can lower the amount of diesel burnt by feeding a blend mix of CNG or lpg , it is still a technology I currently do not subscribe to.

A full conversion which involves , cylinder head swap, pistons, and the introduction of a spark ignition system is a more expensive but stable approach.


"It is a more expensive, but stable approach?" Stable, in what sense? For how many people? So other options are not stable?

Right now, you do not even have adequate infrastructure in-country, to retail Autogas CNG into cars and generators. How many places are close to a gas pipeline? Very few.

So people will need to depend on a virtual pipeline with mobile cascades etc, as well as just very few gas stations, in case they need to refuel.

So of what use is the total conversion if a car cannot refuel with Autogas CNG in his own neighborhood? In the entire southwest region of 5 states, only 2 Autogas CNG stations exist. Ibafo and Ikorodu. Period.

Dual-fuel systems make far more sense, because if the car runs out of gas, it can keep moving with the other fuel, whether it is petrol or diesel, until it finally gets to where it can refuel, or until new stock of CNG is obtained.

So Öga, no need for this long story. We all know how it goes. pCNGi was set up to chop money, and do very little.

There are other committees and associations, that have been driving the adoption of gas for years, using private efforts with very little government support, that have achieved much more than anything this pCNGi can ever hope to achieve.

When NIPCO started converting taxis in Benin to run on CNG before 2014, where was government? Which committee was set up to drive them?

Other bodies like NLGPA, and NGA as well as NGEP have done so much work in the gas sector. But since this government wants to create food for the boys, it had to set up pCNGi.

Una well done. Everyone is watching in 3D. Man must wack, not so?
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by jmoore(m): 7:16pm On Mar 31
It is 1 million times better to use electric cars than CNG powered ones.

One can use generator to charge electric cars. But there are no retail CNG refill stations.
There is no infrastruture for CNG in Nigeria.

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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by laudate: 3:36am On Apr 12
jmoore:
It is 1 million times better to use electric cars than CNG powered ones.

One can use generator to charge electric cars. But there are no retail CNG refill stations.
There is no infrastruture for CNG in Nigeria.

That is what we have been saying since oh! There are 774 local governments in Nigeria. Less than 8 have Autogas CNG stations where motorists can refuel their cars using CNG. sad

Yet some folks are beating their chest about doing conversions and also making noise about how Tinubu set up pCNGi committee!

Let me laugh very well in my language. grin

If not for the fact that LPG costs has gone up, it is still much better to convert to Autogas LPG, since so many LPG gas skids and LPG Gas plants are all over the place, in every single state and in majority of local government areas nationwide.
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Kewtt: 3:23pm On Apr 13
CNG is not viable in Nigeria. Even power generation stations often lack natural gas they use in this country.

Petrol is a wise choice. Stick with it.
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Kewtt: 3:28pm On Apr 13
Emekayoung:
Nipco is really trying o 🤔
Not true relative to how much billions of naira they collected from the government.
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by laudate: 4:45pm On Apr 14
Kewtt:

Not true relative to how much billions of naira they collected from the government.

Tell us please, how much did they collect from government?
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Kewtt: 5:37pm On Apr 14
laudate:


Tell us please, how much did they collect from government?
Jarigbe said Nipco Gas Ltd obtained N25 billion (N25,000,000,000.00), Nipco Plc got N5 billion (N5,000,000,000.00),

Total of 30Billion yams
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by laudate: 5:44pm On Apr 14
Kewtt:

Jarigbe said Nipco Gas Ltd obtained N25 billion (N25,000,000,000.00), Nipco Plc got N5 billion (N5,000,000,000.00),
Total of 30Billion yams

Is this fact or hearsay?? Any link to any government publication, where this can be verified?
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Kewtt: 5:49pm On Apr 14
laudate:


Is this fact or hearsay?? Any link to any government publication, where this can be verified?

https://dailytimesng.com/gas-expansion-senate-summons-dangote-oil-refinery-nipco-13-other-firms/

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Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Godwinmy: 2:20pm On Apr 24
When is NIPCO 2024 recruitment coming up? would NIPCO pattern of interview be oral or written?Does NIPCO extend it employment to Socal science graduates.
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Ogbuu101: 10:32pm On Apr 25
What is the estimated price of converting like a 10kva generator?
Shebi the CNG cylinder can be safely detached ,filled at the station and brought back?
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 6:55am On Apr 26
Ogbuu101:
What is the estimated price of converting like a 10kva generator?
Shebi the CNG cylinder can be safely detached ,filled at the station and brought back?

Not possible . Must be strapped to a vehicle to refill. Or you pay for refill services .
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by OgwuEgo: 5:21pm On Apr 26
Sell the Gen and start using solar energy.
Ogbuu101:
What is the estimated price of converting like a 10kva generator?
Shebi the CNG cylinder can be safely detached ,filled at the station and brought back?
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Topnotch95(m): 5:43pm On Apr 26
Hey guys, I so much love this thread but I have some few questions to ask.

1. Who are the Top 5 buyers of CNG cylinder in Nigeria.

2. What's the current prices of cylinders with their different capacities.

3. Which companies cylinder are available in Nigeria.

I need urgent response pls, Thanks in anticipation
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by GAZZUZZ(m): 10:57pm On Apr 26
Topnotch95:
Hey guys, I so much love this thread but I have some few questions to ask.

1. Who are the Top 5 buyers of CNG cylinder in Nigeria.
Top 5.


1. Nipco Gas.
2.
3.
4.
5




2. What's the current prices of cylinders with their different capacities.

There is no retail market in Nigeria ..

3. Which companies cylinder are available in Nigeria.

None

I need urgent response pls, Thanks in anticipation
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by Ogbuu101: 8:18am On Apr 27
OgwuEgo:
Sell the Gen and start using solar energy.
Solar wey be say 1 ur,d battery done de tire.
And the battery no cheap
Re: CNG Question And Answer (public Sensitization) by OgwuEgo: 10:50am On Apr 27
My granddad house runs on solar for the past few years at least during daytime you are sure of light.
Ogbuu101:

Solar wey be say 1 ur,d battery done de tire.
And the battery no cheap

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