Usefulsense:


If we remove insults, we will engage in constructive reasoning.

I cannot build Nigeria. Those who tried get killed.

The only option I have is to move my children to safer clime.

Don't you have shame ?

That's a question


Me I will be shameful that I am eulogizing where others build...there is no dignity in that !

Just like talking bad about my family as a man and praising another person family ...isn't that shameful

People should be reasonable

Usefulsense:


Australia really humbled me. Imagine a financial controller in Nigeria now picking and packing cartons in warehouses in Australia.

Oga rest, which one is imagine a financial controller. Is it about the job title or position, or is it about the financial reward which in turn gives financial freedom and good standard of living?

You know what it is all about, a governor, hor member, senator etc won't relocate from Nigeria even if he gets the visa on a platter, and I believe you know why?

So because you were making at max #1m per month, which is #12m yearly, you feel you don become big man for Nigeria?

Dey make times 5 or more of that and we still feel like we are not yet a "big man." Well people are different sha.

Using today's standard, oga you are not a big man anything.

Na now you get opportunity to become a rich successful man, and I hope you make proper and good use of it.

I wish you success.

Congratulations!

Congratulations to you and more wins. Please how can I go to Australia through study route. I need your guidance in this.

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

My brother please can u guide me on the study route. Thanks

Kizzygentle:

My brother please can u guide me on the study route. Thanks

Australia school fees no be moi moi o. If you don't have a rich sponsor and if you are not rich, you might struggle.

Aussie Universities school fees are not cheap at all.

This thread finally ended up no giving any meaningful information because of some I too wise busy doing nothing fellows on the comment section. Nawao for some people

Evil spirits and demons finally killed this thread. Chaii

Can someone enter Australia as a tourist and seek asylum?

ariesbull:
and don't you have shame that you can't build your place ...you run to places others built to mess it up ?

Just asking

Stop this gaslighting. Build which place? Was he the one that destroyed Nigeria?

Come off it man. If you like die for Nigeria, no one cares. Op has discovered his own path of life that he feels so secured about his life unlike you that will always panic when moving around without securities.

Die for Nigeria as a honorary patriotic Nigerian. We will be so happy for you man.

mbapelvis:
Can someone enter Australia as a tourist and seek asylum?

they wont even give you the tourist visa to begin with. Canada gave many Nigerians tourist visas last year. You can try your luck

Mcslize:


Stop this gaslighting. Build which place? Was he the one that destroyed Nigeria?

Come off it man. If you like die for Nigeria, no one cares. Op has discovered his own path of life that he feels so secured about his life unlike you that will always panic when moving around without securities.

Die for Nigeria as a honorary patriotic Nigerian. We will be so happy for you man.

oga go build your country and stop being a liability ti other races

mbapelvis:
Can someone enter Australia as a tourist and seek asylum?

Your mates that entered on tourist visas in the last 2yrs never returned back home and they have messed it up for others. So the answer is no, tourist visa done cast due to the wickedness of Nigerians. Cheers

Eriokanmi:
Thanks for dropping a different but reasonable scenario. I lived and schooled in America but chose to come back home. There are limitless opportunities here.

As you're running away, lots of Chinese, Japanese and Indians keep thronging Nigeria in search of opportunities we've never seen. Imagine a Chinese opening a shop in Oshodi . They'd come with a pair of trousers and begin riding jeeps in less than 5 years. This was what I saw, which brought me back Home. Meanwhile, those I left behind said my village people had prevailed. Now, I dash them money each time I visit. They can't even try what I did now cos age isn't on their side anymore and they're overwhelmed with family needs. Some of them haven't gotten papers till date so, they can't even visit home.

As I speak, I can only say, thank God I came back. I'm quite relevant in the industry in which I operate. I can't imagine me relocating at that age...for what reason exactly? I hold visas of powerful countries which I have not even used. I can visit all the European countries with the multiple visa I hold, any time I choose. I don't have to queue before obtaining American visa. With a drop box, I'm good.

I live in a part of Lagos where we enjoy 22hrs power supply. I don't have to turn on my gen if the light blinks cos I know they'd restore it in minutes. In advanced nations too, light does blink. I had been inside the Geneva Airport for 20 minures and light wasn't restored affer they took it. Prof Adewole, the former health minister was there that day. We jammed eachother. He was also returning to Nigeria.

I drive 40 minutes to the airport. I get to VI ahead of those living in Lekki/Ajah despite leaving their homes early. Life is about choices but choosing rightly is edifying and rewarding. I remember a day i was painting my house. The owner of the company said, we painted Davido's house and his dad's university too. I was like, that means there's nothing celebs can enjoy which I too can't. Look inwards and you'd see opportunities that will transform your life and that of your entire family. I just completed a WHO-sponsored project in the first quarter. Nigeria is a blessed nation. What we lack is leadership. If only we can jettison tribalism and bigotry, we will get it right someday.

The bad choices we make are the reasons Nigerian youths, who are supposed to fix the nation are running away. Our leaders who have refused to leave the space, always operate like cultists so they care less about the masses after deceiving them into winning elections. Imagine a senator being expelled for exposing his colleagues. His conscience must have disturbed him to spill the beans despite being an officer in the house. Getting it right begins with you and I

lovely writeup, indeed Nigeria is blessed, but we just lack good leadership.

Eriokanmi:
Thanks for dropping a different but reasonable scenario. I lived and schooled in America but chose to come back home. There are limitless opportunities here.

As you're running away, lots of Chinese, Japanese and Indians keep thronging Nigeria in search of opportunities we've never seen. Imagine a Chinese opening a shop in Oshodi . They'd come with a pair of trousers and begin riding jeeps in less than 5 years. This was what I saw, which brought me back Home. Meanwhile, those I left behind said my village people had prevailed. Now, I dash them money each time I visit. They can't even try what I did now cos age isn't on their side anymore and they're overwhelmed with family needs. Some of them haven't gotten papers till date so, they can't even visit home.

As I speak, I can only say, thank God I came back. I'm quite relevant in the industry in which I operate. I can't imagine me relocating at that age...for what reason exactly? I hold visas of powerful countries which I have not even used. I can visit all the European countries with the multiple visa I hold, any time I choose. I don't have to queue before obtaining American visa. With a drop box, I'm good.

I live in a part of Lagos where we enjoy 22hrs power supply. I don't have to turn on my gen if the light blinks cos I know they'd restore it in minutes. In advanced nations too, light does blink. I had been inside the Geneva Airport for 20 minures and light wasn't restored affer they took it. Prof Adewole, the former health minister was there that day. We jammed eachother. He was also returning to Nigeria.

I drive 40 minutes to the airport. I get to VI ahead of those living in Lekki/Ajah despite leaving their homes early. Life is about choices but choosing rightly is edifying and rewarding. I remember a day i was painting my house. The owner of the company said, we painted Davido's house and his dad's university too. I was like, that means there's nothing celebs can enjoy which I too can't. Look inwards and you'd see opportunities that will transform your life and that of your entire family. I just completed a WHO-sponsored project in the first quarter. Nigeria is a blessed nation. What we lack is leadership. If only we can jettison tribalism and bigotry, we will get it right someday.

The bad choices we make are the reasons Nigerian youths, who are supposed to fix the nation are running away. Our leaders who have refused to leave the space, always operate like cultists so they care less about the masses after deceiving them into winning elections. Imagine a senator being expelled for exposing his colleagues. His conscience must have disturbed him to spill the beans despite being an officer in the house. Getting it right begins with you and I

Capping yen yen yen. ... How many Youths online and on the streets have you mentored? Una go just come online dey type rubbish. How have the youths in your village and community benefited from your purported success? Allow people who feel their success is on the other side to try their luck. Rubbish

DrAkpamudehe:


Capping yen yen yen. ... How many Youths online and on the streets have you mentored? Una go just come online dey type rubbish. How have the youths in your village and community benefited from your purported success? Allow people who feel their success is on the other side to try their luck. Rubbish

Bros frustration is written all over you and your write up.

Jamestown123:
Bros frustration is written all over you and your write up.

Am where you and your generation will only dream to be but can never be, so stop capping nonsense

DrAkpamudehe:


Capping yen yen yen. ... How many Youths online and on the streets have you mentored? Una go just come online dey type rubbish. How have the youths in your village and community benefited from your purported success? Allow people who feel their success is on the other side to try their luck. Rubbish

Na fight ? . Abeg easy ooh
Mentioning those God has used me to elevate is tantamount to blowing my trumpet. If I do, I've received my reward already so its irrelevant.
I pray God keeps using me. Amen!

DrAkpamudehe:


Am where you and your generation will only dream to be but can never be, so stop capping nonsense

Nothing concern me and you. Na advice I give you bros.

Jamestown123:
Nothing concern me and you. Na advice I give you bros.

Go and advice your miserable life and that of your next generation. You want to advice a man who has the 6th most powerful passport in the world under his possession. You are a
F😒😒L. Broke man still hustling for Uber to drive , dey give big man advice. Wetin I no go see for nairaland. @Eriokanmi, these are young kids on nairaland, am asking you to help and mentor. They need help

DrAkpamudehe:


Go and advice your miserable life and that of your next generation. You want to advice a man who has the 6th most powerful passport in the world under his possession. You are a
F😒😒L. Broke man still hustling for Uber to drive , dey give big man advice. Wetin I no go see for nairaland. @Eriokanmi, these are young kids on nairaland, am asking you to help and mentor. They need help

Ichie kpakpando 1 😂😂😂

Bestest05:
This thread finally ended up no giving any meaningful information because of some I too wise busy doing nothing fellows on the comment section. Nawao for some people

What other information are you looking for?

DrAkpamudehe:


Your mates that entered on tourist visas in the last 2yrs never returned back home and they have messed it up for others. So the answer is no, tourist visa done cast due to the wickedness of Nigerians. Cheers

I'm a Cameroonian not a Nigerian

Dear oop, how is Australia treating you, trust good. Kindly do well to update us on how it’s been, have you transitioned back to accounting? I will like to hear from you

DrAkpamudehe:


Your mates that entered on tourist visas in the last 2yrs never returned back home and they have messed it up for others. So the answer is no, tourist visa done cast due to the wickedness of Nigerians. Cheers

Overstaying a visa is not wickedness. What oyinbos did and still do to native Australians is wickedness. Neocolonialism forcing Nigerians to overstay somewhere is wickedness.

Which Nigerian actually wants to live in oyinbo countries? They want to leave the conditions neocolonialism creates.

Cousin9999:


Overstaying a visa is not wickedness. What oyinbos did and still do to native Australians is wickedness. Neocolonialism forcing Nigerians to overstay somewhere is wickedness.

Which Nigerian actually wants to live in oyinbo countries? They want to leave the conditions neocolonialism creates.

You go explain tire

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koning:

I will NEVER leave Nigeria if i am making N1million as salary in a month.. i dey mad!.

Do you know what Dignity and self respect means.

My dignity, self-respect and self worth means more to me that having light 24 hours a day. I can afford fuel for Gen for christ's sake.

POVERTY IS THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR THE JAPA MENTALITY. Stop fooling yourselves.

₦1million = 650USD as of today.

With $650 in Nigeria you can live good amidst crushing poverty and insecurity, have servants and access to plenty of sex partners of dubious quality. Hmmmm, been there done that, it's tempting sha, for real. But it's $650.....this is just too bad. Na wa o!!!!

For $650 !!!! Lord, Deliver Me From Temptation....Amen!!! This is why I pray for the naira to recover, the temptation is tooooo muuuuchhhh

cc Oga Gerrard, I see melon farms everywhere

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Kizzygentle:
Congratulations to you and more wins. Please how can I go to Australia through study route. I need your guidance in this.

Australia has banned Nigerians from getting student visa. Even their universities won’t accept you because you’re a Nigerian. This ban just passed like one month ago. This’s due to Australia realizing that Nigerians are only interested in staying in the country and not studying

IbeOkehie:


₦1million = 650USD as of today.

With $650 in Nigeria you can live good amidst crushing poverty and insecurity, have servants and access to plenty of sex partners of dubious quality. Hmmmm, been there done that, it's tempting sha, for real. But it's $650.....this is just too bad. Na wa o!!!!

For $650 !!!! Lord, Deliver Me From Temptation....Amen!!! This is why I pray for the naira to recover, the temptation is tooooo muuuuchhhh

, I see melon farms everywhere

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Hian

AngelicBeing:
Hian

Yes o, it's like people don't actually take a little time to THINK and process the enormity of it all. In fact I casually mentioned it to a family member this morning, a hour or so ago and they were shocked...asking...are you sure?

Then a really deep insight..."well actually a person earning that amount in Nigeria will live about the same as a person earning that amount here in America" Very good insight, perfect translation! Goes to how easy it is to earn the money!!!

Now go through the posts here and see how Nigerian residents go into heavenly orgasms over someone earning ₦1 million per month, that gives some passing credibility to the systematic surveys that show only 0.4% of Nigerians earn over ₦200K per month. Yes the surveys were years ago, let's say that figure has doubled to ₦500K . It means that likely less than 0.5% of Nigerians earn over $300 per month.

And someone thinks it's OK to give up an Anglo-Western work permit and stay in Nigeria instead and earn 650USD per month. Well, madness comes in different forms. Me sef don dey craze, I think I'm going back to Nigeria to start a melon farm. I know I will have many customers.

cc Oga Gerrard.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

IbeOkehie:


Yes o, it's like people don't actually take a little time to THINK and process the enormity of it all. In fact I casually mentioned it to a family member this morning, a hour or so ago and they were shocked...asking...are you sure?

Then a really deep insight..."well actually a person earning that amount in Nigeria will live about the same as a person earning that amount here in America" Very good insight, perfect translation! Goes to how easy it is to earn the money!!!

Now go through the posts here and see how Nigerian residents go into heavenly orgasms over someone earning ₦1 million per month, that's gives some passing credibility to the systematic surveys that show only 0.4% of Nigerians earn over ₦200K per month. Yes the survey was years ago, let's say that figure has doubled to ₦500K . It means that likely less than 0.5% of Nigerians earn over $300 per month.

And someone thinks it's OK to stay in give up an Anglo-Western work permit to stay in Nigeria and earn 650USD per month. Well, madness comes in different forms. Me sef don dey craze, I think I'm going back to Nigeria to start a melon farm. I know I will have many customers.

cc Gerrard.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Going to start a farm in Nigeria 🍈? Huh, how and which Farm?

The farm surrounded by Fulani bandits and different terrorist groups in different parts of the country


Nigeria to me personally is beyond redemption until proper restructuring is done but the criminals in Abuja are not ready nor willing to effect that kind of change , so the country will likely remain in the wilderness for so long and might likely not get to her Canaanland., as for other things you pointed out in your post, l do agree but come to think of it what is 1 or 2 million naira when you have a life threatening sickness? What is 2 or 3 million naira and be living in fear of Robber's, kidnappers and terrorist?

What is 2 or 5 million naira when you are scared of driving from Lagos to Kano via road or Lagos to Onitsha via road simply because either bad roads/ robbers/ terrorist or bandits can end your life within a twinkle of an eye, anyway to each is own , l will continue to be a visitor to Nigeria from afar sipping my Starbucks coffee ☕ while l Wish Nigeria well