chatinent:
At some point, religion doesn't make sense anymore.


For example, the devil and hell simply looks like a legend created by the leaders of the world so that you can pass the remainder of your blames to when they fail to deliver.

chatinent:
At some point, religion doesn't make sense anymore.


For example, the devil and hell simply looks like a legend created by the leaders of the world so that you can pass the remainder of your blames to when they fail to deliver.

helinues:
Adultery/fornication brought him to this earth.

Not disrespecting any religion but that's the fact

How come we are yet to see another person getting pregnant without s.x?

Steep:
Man don't understand why Jesus Christ is called the only begotten Son of God. When scripture uses the word "only begotten" it does not simply means the only Son that was birthed, for example Isaac was called Abrahamm's only begotten Son not because Abraham didn't have other Sons but because Isaac is the only one born through a promise.
Hebrew 11:17.

Jesus is referred to as the only begotten Son some translation uses one and only, John said they beheld Jesus glory it is as of the only begotten of the Father.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Jesus christ is the only Son that was not created every other son are made in the likeness of God's original Son, Jesus as a Son has being with the father throughout all eternity.

Jesus as a Son is the revelation of the father, no body has ever seen the father not even Moses or Abraham or the prophet, the person whom the saw is the Son, the son is the one that interacted with Moses Abraham and all the prophets, He appears as the angel of the Lord but he is not an angel.
Just as words ( audible) reveals your thought(inaudible) so the Son (image of God) reveals the father( invincible).
The Son Is one God with the Father. Though he is a separate person from the Father yet he us same being with the father.

vdestro:


Surrogacy is not adultery/fornication as proven by the husband who was calmed after receiving the explanation.

And neither did he complain when it was time for him to enter and injoy his wife.

Secondly, it is supposed to be only one for it to bear the Mark of God, and you know it, you are just being a devil.

helinues:
Adultery/fornication brought him to this earth.

Not disrespecting any religion but that's the fact

How come we are yet to see another person getting pregnant without s.x?

AbuTwins:


Jesus appears as Angel and he is the son of God but not an angel

So tell me how Jesus was not among the sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 who came to impregnate beautiful chicks on earth birthing giants!

I guess it was Jesus Jacob fought and defeated too cos the Bible says Jacob fought God and won!

I don't know if you guys keep misinterpreting the Bible or you just decided to lie brazenly!

AbuTwins:


Jesus appears as Angel and he is the son of God but not an angel

So tell me how Jesus was not among the sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 who came to impregnate beautiful chicks on earth birthing giants!

I guess it was Jesus Jacob fought and defeated too cos the Bible says Jacob fought God and won!

I don't know if you guys keep misinterpreting the Bible or you just decided to lie brazenly!

helinues:
Adultery/fornication brought him to this earth.

Not disrespecting any religion but that's the fact

How come we are yet to see another person getting pregnant without s.x?

Dsimmer:


The existence of Jesus isn't a mystery. Yoruba Ifa talks about Jesus several times. Ifa calls him Ela, the word or Jewesun, the lamb. IFA talks about him several times such as,

Talked about Ela as the word of God.

Talked about how Ela has always been with God from the beginning of creation.

Talked about Ela as the only begotten child of God and would be born of a virgin woman.

Talked about how Ela who's often referred to as Orunmila spent 3 days and 3 night in the grave before he came out.

Simply put, Jesus is the word of God who became flesh, died and resurrected. That's what IFA says. Same thing in the scriptures.

Steep:
Did ifa tell you that Jesus is the only door to eternal life?

Dsimmer:


Ifa says Ela born of a virgin woman is the Messiah.

Steep:
the word messiah is an Hebrew word for anointed one. Does ifa acknowledge that Jesus is the only way to be saved? That is all that matters.

Dsimmer:


What exactly are you even asking exactly when I already answered you. Ifa has only one God almighty which is Olorun Oluwa Olodumare who's got only one begotten child which is his word. The word is Ela born of a virgin woman and the Messiah. That's Ifa belief system which is similar to Christianity.

As for the Orisha, there are the creative aspect of Ifa. The Orishas represent intelligence and creative talents which God had put within humans needing to be birthed into technical realities for the development of the world.

Steep:
That is not the question, does ifa acknowledge that Jesus is the only way to be saved?

Dsimmer:


You're just asking gibberish at this point because I have answered you.

IFA says Ela, born of a virgin woman is the Messiah who's the way to God.

Steep:
So if Jesus is The way to God, that means ancestors and other deities do not lead to the true God right?

Dsimmer:


The Orishas who are also Yoruba ancestors are what makes up the body, the universe and the intelligent creative talents embedded within humans and are required to be birthed into technical realities for the development of the society, just like the ancestors had done.

Orisha Ogun cosmos for example represent iron, iron works, chemistry, bravery agility etc. When Orisha Ogun the Yoruba ancestor came, he was a blacksmith, a wine maker and a warrior. These are all equivalent to the Orisha Ogun cosmos. He simply displayed his talents which aligned with the Orisha Ogun cosmos that formed the universe. In today's age and civilization, such talents would be metallurgy, mechanical engines/engineering, chemical industries, Self defense, boxing etc..

Hence, the celebration of the ancestors is a celebration of historical facts, as well as the constant reminder of the need to birth the intelligent creative talents within, like the Yoruba ancestors had done.

Steep:
It doesn't matter as far as Jesus is The way to God, orishas and ancestors do not lead to the true God which means the only one that matters and the only one who matters to mankind is Jesus christ so it is Jesus christ that should be preached to men not ifa or anyother.

Dsimmer:


The Orishas are also Yoruba histories and ancestors! As a matter of fact, They will always stay with the Yoruba, even as Ifa always talk about them because as a matter of fact, they're also intelligent education enlightenment 📌 and also, such intelligent creative talents need to be birthed forth.

Steep:
Jesus christ is the way to God I will advice you to repent and put your trust in him only. As you yourself has said Jesus is the way not orishas or ancestors those will lead you astray.

helinues:
Adultery/fornication brought him to this earth.

Not disrespecting any religion but that's the fact

How come we are yet to see another person getting pregnant without s.x?

ichuka:

Dude,these isn't the political section, focus on what you believe you know.and stop indulging in things that might put you and your f.......y into deeper hardship.
Sincere advice.

helinues:


You could have disputed what I wrote above

Or??

helinues:


You could have disputed what I wrote above

Or??

Steep:
Man don't understand why Jesus Christ is called the only begotten Son of God. When scripture uses the word "only begotten" it does not simply means the only Son that was birthed, for example Isaac was called Abrahamm's only begotten Son not because Abraham didn't have other Sons but because Isaac is the only one born through a promise.
Hebrew 11:17.

Jesus is referred to as the only begotten Son some translation uses one and only, John said they beheld Jesus glory it is as of the only begotten of the Father.

Oga Steep,you are ADDING your own spurious interpretation which your fellow Trinitarian mentors had NEVER done.

Father means Senior.
Every creature has a Father.
Your Father SENIOR you, The Father of Jesus senior Jesus in heaven.

In the spiritual realm Jesus Christ has a Father.
In the same manner that Jesus Christ has his God.

The expression "Only begotten" is restricted to Father & Son relationship.
Nothing else.

Dsimmer:


The existence of Jesus isn't a mystery. Yoruba Ifa talks about Jesus several times. Ifa calls him Ela, the word or Jewesun, the lamb. IFA talks about him several times such as,

Talked about Ela as the word of God.

Talked about how Ela has always been with God from the beginning of creation.

Talked about Ela as the only begotten child of God and would be born of a virgin woman.

Talked about how Ela who's often referred to as Orunmila spent 3 days and 3 night in the grave before he came out.

Simply put, Jesus is the word of God who became flesh, died and resurrected. That's what IFA says. Same thing in the scriptures.

AbuTwins:


Polytheism can only be related to Polytheism!

Dsimmer:


It's One God operating in dual roles.


It only shows allah/allat and Mohammed are unintelligible. A stone idiot who doesn't even understand how the universe was formed.