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The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 2:44pm On Apr 17
The idea that the Source of All That Is, the Supreme Intelligence, has arranged an everlasting torturous FIRE to burn people “forever”, ie for trillions upon trillions upon trillions of MILLENNIA simply because they did not “believe” something during their 70 odd years on Earth is so manifestly IRRATIONAL and INSANE, that even the belief in its truism is a sign of mental disorder.

And then to believe that an entity who creates this nightmarish place of EVERLASTING TORTURE is a “loving God”, is the height of ABSOLUTE LUNACY.

This ‘God’ of christian fable is trillions of times more EVIL and PSYCHOPATHIC than ADOLF HITLER, if indeed he has such a place as “hellfire”.

And Christians call him a ‘LOVING GOD’.

What LOVE?

To call a MONSTER so clearly DEMENTED AND EVIL a “LOVING GOD” is the ultimate gaslighting.

In fact christianity is just a HIGHLY PSYCHOPATHIC cult endeavour that is actually VERY EVIL AND DEMENTED, and was most definitely devised by DEMONIC ENTITIES to entrap humans in a miasma of DEPRAVITY, DEHUMANISATION, and DEGRADATION of the natural morality of the Soul.

I urge everyone to flee from this EVIL DEATH CULT masquerading as a ‘religion’.

Our African ancestors who INVENTED RELIGION hundreds of thousands of years before white people and Romans existed, NEVER saw the Supreme Intelligence as an evil monster who tortured people in an eternal furnace.

The Supreme Intelligence was regarded by them as somewhat aloof. They only approached him in prayer when his various deities - his helpers - were unable to resolve an issue.

Finish.

THAT IS THE REAL GOD.

Not that EVIL MONSTER invented by white Romans a mere 2,000 years ago, to subjugate humans under their dominance.

If GOD was a torturer like the whites claim, he would have revealed it to our ANCESTORS many thousands of years ago because our ANCESTORS were here long before the white liars and thieves.

If you wish to know the truth about why YOU are here on Earth, visit an IFA PRIEST, or your local TRADITIONAL PRIEST.

They will do a DIVINATION, and tell YOU the truth.

They will also tell you that there is no such thing as hellfire, and that the white people are lying to you, in their distorted, threatening propaganda book they call ‘the bible’.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 3:58pm On Apr 17
Hunger won kill Ifa Priest dat na why e dey talk nonsense and dey make noise! grin
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:07pm On Apr 17
How do i explain this?

Well let me start by telling you that God has commissioned a global group to reach you with the truth about this matter so instead of listening to the nonsense and ingredients spoken by the misinformed religionists you meet in busses and street corners that won't give you a listening ear when you're fed with their gibberish God's servants must attend to you respectively and give you the time to answer your questions.

Regarding what you're saying this is what the only true God said:

They have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’ Jeremiah 7:31

So don't take Jesus' words literally because he spoke to his listeners in parables {Matthew 13:13} all his Jewish audience back then understood what their God forbids in the Bible book of Jeremiah so they can't misconstrue Jesus' parables for everlasting torment turning their God into a tormentor of live creatures. That is the mind of the person Jesus referred to as the ONLY TRUE GOD! John 17:3
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 6:55pm On Apr 17
StillDtruth:
Hunger won kill Ifa Priest dat na why e dey talk nonsense and dey make noise! grin

You type a spiteful comment and then add a smiley.

Typical evil, devious Christian behaviour.

Also reducing spiritual matters to the material (ie hunger) is another sign of your Christian spiritual bankruptcy and moral emptiness.

So a “hungry” IFA priest cannot possibly have anything of spiritual value to offer you.

Only a fat Christian priest with a private jet and massive church can.

See the evil Christian mindset?

There is nothing spiritual about your religion.

It’s just materialist filth.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 7:03pm On Apr 17
MaxInDHouse:
How do i explain this?

Well let me start by telling you that God has commissioned a global group to reach you with the truth about this matter so instead of listening to the nonsense and ingredients spoken by the misinformed religionists you meet in busses and street corners that won't give you a listening ear when you're fed with their gibberish God's servants must attend to you respectively and give you the time to answer your questions.

Regarding what you're saying this is what the only true God said:

They have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.’ Jeremiah 7:31

So don't take Jesus' words literally because he spoke to his listeners in parables {Matthew 13:13} all his Jewish audience back then understood what their God forbids in the Bible book of Jeremiah so they can't misconstrue Jesus' parables for everlasting torment turning their God into a tormentor of live creatures. That is the mind of the person Jesus referred to as the ONLY TRUE GOD! John 17:3

This is a deviant rendition of the hellfire doctrine of the kind propounded by Jehovah’s Witnesses. It does not represent conventional Christian doctrine on hellfire, which IS literalist.

So Christianity doesn’t get a pass because a tiny, largely suppressed and ignored subgroup of it proposes a more rational approach to culpability.

Plus the fundamental doctrine of the JW group is still of ANNIHILATION of ‘unbelievers’, which is still a FALSE and EVIL belief.

No soul is annihilated or punished because of non belief or ‘sin’.

These are false doctrines.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12pm On Apr 17
jazzman7711:

This is a deviant rendition of the hellfire doctrine of the kind propounded by Jehovah’s Witnesses. It does not represent conventional Christian doctrine on hellfire, which IS literalist. So Christianity doesn’t get a pass because a tiny, largely suppressed and ignored subgroup of it proposes a more rational approach to culpability.

This is why i said you should listen to disciples of Jesus sent to come and EXPLAIN what he said to you in your own home {Matthew 10:11-13} not false religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

Now after reading what the Bible God himself said you just want to stick to the Hellfire thing simply because you don't want to hear anything about Jesus or his teachings.

Well suit yourself i've told you what the only true God said! smiley

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 7:13pm On Apr 17
MaxInDHouse:


This is why i said you should listen to disciples of Jesus sent to come and EXPLAIN what he said to you in your own home {Matthew 10:11-13} not false religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

Now after reading what the Bible God himself said you just want to stick to the Hellfire thing simply because you don't want to hear anything about Jesus or his teachings.

Well suit yourself i've told you what the only true God said! smiley

See full, updated response.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Apr 17
jazzman7711:

See updated response.

According to Jesus himself do you think his group could grow up to billions in number when he said only a handful few will find the road to everlasting life? Matthew 7:13-14
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 7:53pm On Apr 17
MaxInDHouse:


According to Jesus himself do you think his group could grow up to billions in number when he said only a handful few will find the road to everlasting life? Matthew 7:13-14

It is a FALSEHOOD that “only a handful few will find the road to eternal life”.

These are LIES.

Everybody transits back to the REAL world from where we came.

You do NOT need to “believe in Jesus’’ or anyone or anything before you transit to the Afterlife upon passing.

It is a NATURAL process.

As NATURAL as birth.

Why would the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE have such a stupid, vindictive law?

Do you know that the ONLY REASON this makes sense to you is that it was drilled into your head as a child, before your brain was developed enough to filter out NONSENSE?

Why would the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE create such a manifestly unfair system in which only those who happened to be born in countries where white people invaded to loot, steal, kill and colonise, and then drop a “holy book” for their victims, would be the people to “go to heaven”?

And those who weren’t born in those regions, and thus still practice their traditional religions, ie billions of Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Arabs etc, are all destined for “hell” or a punitive annihilation?

Can’t you see how DEMENTED that sounds?

How is that justifiable?

You have been BRAINWASHED as a child to believe this absolute NONSENSE.

There is no right or wrong religion. Even atheists transit to the Afterlife.

Why should you be punished for your beliefs or non-beliefs as an imperfect human when you, ie your Soul/Consciousness will still return to the Afterlife and see that God exists?

You are not your physical body. When it expires, your Consciousness or Soul exits and moves on back to the Afterlife, which is actually the REAL WORLD.

Earth life is just a temporary illusion for Souls.

These are truths known to man for at least 100,000 years of human existence.

Even today, there are thousands of accounts by near-death experiencers confirming these truths. They are declared clinically dead for a few hours or days, and revived with modern medical technology, and they relate that they were alive and looking at their bodies from afar, went to the Afterlife and met their ‘dead’ relatives, friends etc, all looking happy and content, and were later told it wasn’t ‘their time’ yet, and that they had to go back to their Earth life etc. Following which they are ‘revived’ on their hospital beds.

So we have modern day confirmation that we ALL transit and are IMMORTAL BEINGS.

The Romans who came 2,000 years ago were LIARS.

And you are a victim of their LIES.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03pm On Apr 17
jazzman7711:

It is a FALSEHOOD that “only a handful few will find the road to eternal life”.
These are LIES.
Everybody transits back to the REAL world from where we came.
You do NOT need to “believe in Jesus’’ or anyone or anything before you transit to the Afterlife upon passing.
It is a NATURAL process.
As NATURAL as birth.
Why would the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE have such a stupid, vindictive law?
Do you know that the ONLY REASON this makes sense to you is that it was drilled into your head as a child, before your brain was developed enough to filter out NONSENSE?
Why would the SUPREME INTELLIGENCE create such a manifestly unfair system in which only those who happened to be born in countries where white people invaded to loot, steal, kill and colonise, and then drop a “holy book” for their victims, would be the people to “go to heaven”?
And those who weren’t born in those regions, and thus still practice their traditional religions, ie billions of Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Arabs etc, are all destined for “hell” or a punitive annihilation?
Can’t you see how DEMENTED that sounds?
How is that justifiable?
You have been BRAINWASHED as a child to believe this absolute NONSENSE.
There is no right or wrong religion. Even atheists transit to the Afterlife.
These are truths known to man for at least 100,000 years of human existence.
The Romans who came 2,000 years ago were LIARS.
And you are a victim of their LIES.

This is really funny!

Why is it that most of you guys don't even try to reason intelligently with your audience before vomiting whatsoever you have cooked up in your head?

Well i have few questions for you about your SUPREME INTELLIGENCE.

What was your SUPREME INTELLIGENCE plan for mankind?
Why is it that your SUPREME INTELLIGENCE can't communicate with other intelligent beings?
Why is there suffering and death? smiley
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 8:16pm On Apr 17
MaxInDHouse:


This is really funny!

Why is it that most of you guys don't even try to reason intelligently with your audience before vomiting whatsoever you have cooked up in your head?

Well i have few questions for you about your SUPREME INTELLIGENCE.

What was your SUPREME INTELLIGENCE plan for mankind?
Why is it that your SUPREME INTELLIGENCE can't communicate with other intelligent beings?
Why is there suffering and death? smiley


Sorry I do not respond to disrespectful questioning.

If you think you know it all, please go ahead and continue with your christian religion.

I will drop knowledge for those who come with respect and humility.

Bye.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:10pm On Apr 17
jazzman7711:

Sorry I do not respond to disrespectful questioning. If you think you know it all, please go ahead and continue with your christian religion. I will drop knowledge for those who come with respect and humility. Bye.
Funnyll! smiley

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Ken4Christ: 10:35pm On Apr 17
jazzman7711:
The idea that the Source of All That Is, the Supreme Intelligence, has arranged an everlasting torturous FIRE to burn people “forever”, ie for trillions upon trillions upon trillions of MILLENNIA simply because they did not “believe” something during their 70 odd years on Earth is so manifestly IRRATIONAL and INSANE, that even the belief in its truism is a sign of mental disorder.

And then to believe that an entity who creates this nightmarish place of EVERLASTING TORTURE is a “loving God”, is the height of ABSOLUTE LUNACY.

This ‘God’ of christian fable is trillions of times more EVIL and PSYCHOPATHIC than ADOLF HITLER, if indeed he has such a place as “hellfire”.

And Christians call him a ‘LOVING GOD’.

What LOVE?

To call a MONSTER so clearly DEMENTED AND EVIL a “LOVING GOD” is the ultimate gaslighting.

In fact christianity is just a HIGHLY PSYCHOPATHIC cult endeavour that is actually VERY EVIL AND DEMENTED, and was most definitely devised by DEMONIC ENTITIES to entrap humans in a miasma of DEPRAVITY, DEHUMANISATION, and DEGRADATION of the natural morality of the Soul.

I urge everyone to flee from this EVIL DEATH CULT masquerading as a ‘religion’.

Our African ancestors who INVENTED RELIGION hundreds of thousands of years before white people and Romans existed, NEVER saw the Supreme Intelligence as an evil monster who tortured people in an eternal furnace.

The Supreme Intelligence was regarded by them as somewhat aloof. They only approached him in prayer when his various deities - his helpers - were unable to resolve an issue.

Finish.

THAT IS THE REAL GOD.

Not that EVIL MONSTER invented by white Romans a mere 2,000 years ago, to subjugate humans under their dominance.

If GOD was a torturer like the whites claim, he would have revealed it to our ANCESTORS many thousands of years ago because our ANCESTORS were here long before the white liars and thieves.

If you wish to know the truth about why YOU are here on Earth, visit an IFA PRIEST, or your local TRADITIONAL PRIEST.

They will do a DIVINATION, and tell YOU the truth.

They will also tell you that there is no such thing as hellfire, and that the white people are lying to you, in their distorted, threatening propaganda book they call ‘the bible’.





Hell fire is not an idea. And God didn't create it for man. It was in existence before man was created.

Hell fire was created for the devil and his cohorts. But since the devil made man to sin against God, man became subject to him. And a servant can not be above his master. If Satan is hell bound, the sinful man was also hell bound.

This is why Jesus came to rescue us. He went to hell so we don't need to go there. But if you reject the free gift of salvation which is in Christ alone, you have chosen to continue your journey to hell. This is the gospel truth. The choice is yours.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by gohf: 3:44am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:
The idea that the Source of All That Is, the Supreme Intelligence, has arranged an everlasting torturous FIRE to burn people “forever”, ie for trillions upon trillions upon trillions of MILLENNIA simply because they did not “believe” something during their 70 odd years on Earth is so manifestly IRRATIONAL and INSANE, that even the belief in its truism is a sign of mental disorder.

And then to believe that an entity who creates this nightmarish place of EVERLASTING TORTURE is a “loving God”, is the height of ABSOLUTE LUNACY.

This ‘God’ of christian fable is trillions of times more EVIL and PSYCHOPATHIC than ADOLF HITLER, if indeed he has such a place as “hellfire”.

And Christians call him a ‘LOVING GOD’.

What LOVE?

To call a MONSTER so clearly DEMENTED AND EVIL a “LOVING GOD” is the ultimate gaslighting.

In fact christianity is just a HIGHLY PSYCHOPATHIC cult endeavour that is actually VERY EVIL AND DEMENTED, and was most definitely devised by DEMONIC ENTITIES to entrap humans in a miasma of DEPRAVITY, DEHUMANISATION, and DEGRADATION of the natural morality of the Soul.

I urge everyone to flee from this EVIL DEATH CULT masquerading as a ‘religion’.

Our African ancestors who INVENTED RELIGION hundreds of thousands of years before white people and Romans existed, NEVER saw the Supreme Intelligence as an evil monster who tortured people in an eternal furnace.

The Supreme Intelligence was regarded by them as somewhat aloof. They only approached him in prayer when his various deities - his helpers - were unable to resolve an issue.

Finish.

THAT IS THE REAL GOD.

Not that EVIL MONSTER invented by white Romans a mere 2,000 years ago, to subjugate humans under their dominance.

If GOD was a torturer like the whites claim, he would have revealed it to our ANCESTORS many thousands of years ago because our ANCESTORS were here long before the white liars and thieves.

If you wish to know the truth about why YOU are here on Earth, visit an IFA PRIEST, or your local TRADITIONAL PRIEST.

They will do a DIVINATION, and tell YOU the truth.

They will also tell you that there is no such thing as hellfire, and that the white people are lying to you, in their distorted, threatening propaganda book they call ‘the bible’.




lmao

Which is ya issue, that there's God or that there's hell 🤣🤣

I think ya issue should be that there will be a lake of burning sulphur 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


You say white people are lying yet you are using what they make and create. They are liars because they are white abi.

Well thank God, God doesn't judge based on race or skin colour but on deeds. Your works will be JUDGED

HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL

IF YOU LIKE DON'T REPENT FROM YOUR WICKEDNESS
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 7:30am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


You type a spiteful comment and then add a smiley.

Typical evil, devious Christian behaviour.

Also reducing spiritual matters to the material (ie hunger) is another sign of your Christian spiritual bankruptcy and moral emptiness.

So a “hungry” IFA priest cannot possibly have anything of spiritual value to offer you.

Only a fat Christian priest with a private jet and massive church can.

See the evil Christian mindset?

There is nothing spiritual about your religion.

It’s just materialist filth.

See ifa priest begging for market and complaining about other priests with private jets, is it not clear that you are materialistic and you want a private jet?

And that you are just attacking Christians because so that they could feed yoi as they fed their jet driving priests? You are only deceiving yourself.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 8:49am On Apr 18
Ken4Christ:


Hell fire is not an idea. And God didn't create it for man. It was in existence before man was created.

Hell fire was created for the devil and his cohorts. But since the devil made man to sin against God, man became subject to him. And a servant can not be above his master. If Satan is hell bound, the sinful man was also hell bound.

The truth is he knows he is just trying to buy private jets.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 8:57am On Apr 18
Hellfire is not a Bible teaching
It's a platonic teaching (Philosopher Plato) that was later introduced into the church

The Bible says that the wages of ain is death and everlasting life is a gift, not a punishment

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 9:00am On Apr 18
A PITIFUL RETINUE OF BRAINWASHED SCHOOL DROPOUTS AND MENTAL MIDGETS.

WHERE ARE THE INTELLECTUALS WITH WORKING BRAINS?

OR HAVE THEY IN EXASPERATION LONG FLED THIS GATHERING OF DUNDERHEADS?

AWAITING.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:06am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:

Sorry I do not respond to disrespectful questioning.
If you think you know it all, please go ahead and continue with your christian religion.
I will drop knowledge for those who come with respect and humility. Bye.

jazzman7711:

A PITIFUL RETINUE OF BRAINWASHED SCHOOL DROPOUTS AND MENTAL MIDGETS. WHERE ARE THE INTELLECTUALS WITH WORKING BRAINS? AWAITING.

How i wish some people question their own attitude towards others before questioning the way others treat them! grin

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 9:06am On Apr 18
Ken4Christ:


Hell fire is not an idea. And God didn't create it for man. It was in existence before man was created.


Does this make any sense to you?
Genesis says that God looked at what he had made and it was very good

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 9:08am On Apr 18
MaxInDHouse:




How i wish some people question their own attitude towards others before questioning the way others treat them! grin


Some people will rather remain in darkness than allow light enter their eyes
He's an atheist that want to argue with misinformed people
Not as if he's seeking to learn any truth
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 9:08am On Apr 18
^^

I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE.

I AM HERE TO TEACH.

THERE ARE SILENT READERS LEARNING THE TRUTH.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by Aemmyjah(m): 9:15am On Apr 18
Everyone wants to teach about God
Even without properly investigating the scriptures
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:

Some people will rather remain in darkness than allow light enter their eyes
He's an atheist that want to argue with misinformed people
Not as if he's seeking to learn any truth

He said there are silent readers learning from him just as there are billions out there learning from HELLFIRE DOCTRINES.
Is it not through debates that intelligent people are convinced that they were wrong?
Let him continue deceiving himself just like the HELLFIRE apologists who also throws jabs at people without welcoming any questions or debates.
Funny enough he wants others to respect him when he publicly declared that their opinion is MADNESS! cheesy

Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:26am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:

Everyone wants to teach about God
Even without properly investigating the scriptures

Scriptures keh!

NO o, he is getting direct inspiration from his so called SUPREME INTELLIGENCE while others are deaf to what his SUPREME INTELLIGENCE is revealing to him.
So there's no scriptures to back up whatever he says it's just him and him alone teaching others what they must accept without questioning the source! cheesy

Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 9:36am On Apr 18
Here is what happens when you die.

You rise up out of your body.

You still have a body, but it is lighter in weight, and youngish, roughly around 30 years of age looking.

You lose all previous pain and aches and illness afflicting your old body that’s lying on the bed or wherever.

You will be looking at your old body thinking, “wow…look at that! I’m alive! I’m not really dead! It’s just my old body that’s expired!”

And then you could start to walk around here and there, and you would discover that you can walk through physical objects like walls. Physical humans will be unable to see you, but you can see them.

You will see them crying over your dead body. You will feel like telling them “No! Stop crying! I’m not really dead!”, but they will not see or hear you.

You will stand there with them screaming that you are alive. They won’t see or hear you, and will just walk right through your new body as if it wasn’t there.

You will find that you don’t need to walk to get anywhere. You can simply ‘float’, ie just stand a little above the ground and float to your destination. You can also FLY, if you want to get somewhere quicker.

You don’t need to know the directions to wherever you are going. You simply think of where you want to go, and you will find yourself heading there.

You will discover that you are unaware of the passage of time. You can accelerate ‘time’ in your head.

For instance, say you want to observe your funeral, you will not need to experience the passage of a week or however long it takes them to arrange it. You will see it happening in what seems to be a five or ten minute period to you.

You might decide after that to move on into the Afterlife realm where trillions of beings like you reside…

There lies the Real World.

The place scientists call ‘Dark Matter’.

As physical humans, we can only observe 0.005% of the universe.

Just that tiny sliver of matter that can reflect light.

The rest of the 99.995%, ie ‘Dark Matter’, we are blind to.

It is where we go when we dream.

That is where all the people we think are dead reside. That’s where God resides.

That’s the REAL WORLD we ALL return to after this brief experience we call ‘life on Earth’.

When you die, you do not ‘Rest in Peace’.

You return back to a life of endless ACTIVITY, ie the direct opposite of “resting in peace”.

There is no ‘hellfire’ waiting for you there.

The very idea is laughed at by people there.

If you were evil in your Earth life, the only ‘punishment’ you experience is your conscience.

There, your conscience is far more substantive and profound than it is here.

What seems like a small offence to you here, feels like a big crime to you there, and you have a strong urge to make amends.

Some people decide to reincarnate as Earth humans to do that, perhaps by becoming religious figures, teachers, charity workers etc.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:42am On Apr 18
So is there any evidence that dead people are still around today?
Why are they so silent and unable to harm those who killed them or help their loved ones? cheesy
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 9:42am On Apr 18
Aemmyjah:
Hellfire is not a Bible teaching
It's a platonic teaching (Philosopher Plato) that was later introduced into the church

The Bible says that the wages of ain is death and everlasting life is a gift, not a punishment

This is where your jw selective taking of ruth begins.

Clearly, haven't men died since Adam and arent all men still dead and dying today?

Did the bible not clearly State who shall get everlasting life and the conditions for getting it?

Thirdly, did the bible not clearly say that those who died before the Day of The Lord shall be raised to life to be Judged and those found not worthy of everlasting life shall be thrown into everlasting fire?
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 9:46am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:
Here is what happens when you die.

You rise up out of your body.

You still have a body, but it is lighter in weight, and youngish, roughly around 30 years of age looking.

You lose all previous pain and aches and illness afflicting your old body that’s lying on the bed or wherever.

You will be looking at your old body thinking, “wow…look at that! I’m alive! I’m not really dead! It’s just my old body that’s expired!”

And then you could start to walk around here and there, and you would discover that you can walk through physical objects like walls. Physical humans will be unable to see you, but you can see them.

You will see them crying over your dead body. You will feel like telling them “No! Stop crying! I’m not really dead!”, but they will not see or hear you.

You will stand there with them screaming that you are alive. They won’t see or hear you, and will just walk right through your new body as if it wasn’t there.

You will find that you don’t need to walk to get anywhere. You can simply ‘float’, ie just stand a little above the ground and float to your destination. You can also FLY, if you want to get somewhere quicker.

You don’t need to know the directions to wherever you are going. You simply think of where you want to go, and you will find yourself heading there.

You will discover that you are unaware of the passage of time. You can accelerate ‘time’ in your head.

For instance, say you want to observe your funeral, you will not need to experience the passage of a week or however long it takes them to arrange it. You will see it happening in what seems to be a five or ten minute period to you.

You might decide after that to move on into the Afterlife realm where trillions of beings like you reside…

There is the Real World.

You are letting the movie Ghost dad deceive you.

Watch the movie the "Ghost" and see how the officer of hellfire transportation takes you there whether you want to go or not.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 9:55am On Apr 18
StillDtruth:


You are letting the movie Ghost dad deceive you.

Watch the movie the "Ghost" and see how the officer of hellfire transportation takes you there whether you want to go or not.

I have no idea what movie you are referring to.

But you can be sure that the ‘powers that be’ often reveal the TRUTH about existence in movies…

They do know the truth.

It is YOU who they have given a distorted ‘holy book’ of lies to keep you under their thumb.

THEY KNOW you are a powerful, immortal soul.

And sometimes they make movies, almost as though to mock you over your ignorance.

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Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by StillDtruth: 9:59am On Apr 18
jazzman7711:


I have no idea what movie you are referring to.

But you can be sure that the ‘powers that be’ often reveal the TRUTH about existence in movies…

They do know the truth.

It is YOU who they have given a distorted ‘holy book’ of lies to keep you under their thumb.

THEY KNOW you are a powerful, immortal soul.

And sometimes they make movies, almost as though to mock you over your ignorance.

Yet here you are doing exactly what the bible Said people like will come to do, which is why you are complaining about hellfire, because you already know you must be taken there.
Re: The Idea Of Hellfire Is IRRATIONAL MADNESS by jazzman7711: 10:05am On Apr 18
INTELLIGENT RESPONSES WELCOME.

Nigerians need to overcome their British brainwashing and seek knowledge beyond that little book the English thieves handed them.

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