While Muhammad was alive, he chose 4 of his closest sahabas and entrusted the recitation of the Quran to them.


Muhammad commanded all his followers to learn the Quran from them.
The four chosen by the prophet were specifically:
1. Abdulla Ibn Mas’ud
2. Salim (a freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa)
3. Mu’adh bin Jabal
4. Ubay bin Ka’b. (Sahih Bukhari 6.61.521)

Years after Muhammad died, Abu Bakr, the first caliph decided to compile the Quran, fearing it would be lost.

Did Abu Bakr consult any one of the 4 men that Muhammad personally chose? NO.
Instead Abu Bakr instructed Zaid Ibn Thabit, who was a scribe, to do the job.

Did Zaid consult or request help from any one of the 4 men that Muhammad chose? NO.

Were the great early Quran teachers UPSET that they were ignored and rejected? YES! They were FURIOUS!

They already had their own Quran codices.

Yet Zaid ibn Thabit finished compiling the first official Quran without input from the four….

The 2nd caliph, Umar already had doubts about the authenticity of any compiled Qur'an being original, and he admitted much of the Qur'an is lost.
He said: “Let no one of you say that he has acquired the entire Quran, for how does he know that it is all? Much of the Quran has been lost, thus let him say, ‘I have acquired of it what is left of the Qur'an” (As-Suyuti, Itqan, part 3, page 72)

In Sahih Bukhari 6.61.527 – “Ubayy was the best reciter yet we leave out some of what he recites.”

By the time the 3rd caliph, Uthman, came to power, there were many versions floating around. The books of the 4 great teachers and other hafiz had spread throughout the empire and were used widely and gained popularity.

Due to this confusion, the 3rd Caliph Uthman instructed Zaid ibn Thabit to EDIT his Quran again, which he had compiled years earlier under Abu Bakr. The purpose was to come up with a standard and final official version for correct recitation.

Once that was done, Uthman ordered the burning of the rest of the versions including those of the 4 great teachers personally hand-picked by Muhammad. Sadly, Muhammad was no longer around to disapprove of the recklessness and abuse of power.

Abdulla Ibn Masud gave a passionate speech as Uthman’s henchmen were burning his Quran, tearfully declaring that he knew the Quran better than anyone else..

“By Allah other than Whom none has the right to be worshipped! There is no Sura revealed in Allah’s Book but I know at what place it was revealed, and there is no verse revealed in Allah’s Book but I know about whom it was revealed. And if I know that there is somebody who knows Allah’s Book better than I, and he is at a place that camels can reach, I would go to him.”

Ibn masud refuse to give up his own Qur'an till death and even taught it in mosques to his followers in far away Baghdad.
He rejected the Qur'an compiled by Zaid saying he cannot abandon what he learnt from the prophet himself.

I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah (saw) seventy surahs when Zaid was still a childish youth - must I now forsake what I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah?” (Ibid., p. 15)


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Ubay bin kab also rejected the uthmanic codex saying he cannot give up what he learnt directly from the prophet.

4719. It is related from Ibn ‘Abbas that ‘Umar said, “Ubayy was the one of us with the best recitation, yet we leave some of the words of Ubayy. Ubayy said, ‘I took it from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah and WILL NOT LEAVE IT for anything.’ Allah Almighty says, ‘Whenever We abrogate an ayat or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or equal to it.’
(2:106)” (Aisha Bewley, Sahih Collection of al-Bukhari, Chapter 69. Book of the Virtues of the Qur’an, VIII: The reciters among the Companions of the Prophet)

Islamic scholars know that Ubai Ibn Ka’b had a compilation of the Quran that differed from the current version, which was compiled primarily by Zaid Ibn Thabit.
Among the differences we know of between Zaid & Ubai’s Qurans, was the fact that Ubai’s Quran had two additional surahs, al-Hafd and al-Khal'.

This problem is acknowledged by Umar in the Hadith. In Sahih Bukhari, Vol. VI, #527, Umar noted that, despite the fact that Ubai was called the greatest reciter of the Quran by Muhammad, two of the Surahs in Ubai’s Quran were not put in Zaid’s codex.


Ubai’s codex of the Quran was the standard version used in Syria before Uthman ordered all manuscripts that did not agree with the one compiled by Zaid et al. to be burned. Many still know Ubai’s surahs today! These surahs have not been lost, they have been REJECTED by the Muslim leaders!

According to Surah 3:3-4, these leaders bring a heavy doom on themselves and their followers.

Umar tried to justify the rejection of Ubay's codex with abrogation.
But Ubai surahs were not abrogated by Allah, they were abrogated by Zaid and those who chose his text.
The Quran promises abrogated or forgotten things are replaced by Allah with something similar or better (Surah 2:106). How could this be done after Muhammad has passed away?

Zaid et al. should have accepted Ubai’s surahs even if they were only found with Ubai, since he accepted portions found only with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari and Ubai’s credentials exceeded that of Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari.

As we can see, the preservation of the Qur'an lacks serious credibility right from the beginning.
To cap it all, Uthman did the Muslim world a terrible disservice by having alternative Quranic synopsis burnt.
This is intellectual dishonesty perpetrated by Uthman and aided by unannointed Zaid.



It's amazing Muslims are not disturbed that the Qur'an they hold today was rejected by the best of reciters approved by Prophet Muhammad himself.


Narrated `Abdullah bin `Amr: I heard the Prophet saying, “Learn the recitation of Qur’an from four persons: Ibn Mas`ud, Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa, Ubayy and Mu`adh bin Jabal”[2]. 

Narrated Masruq: `Abdullah bin Masud was mentioned before `Abdullah bin `Amr who said, “That is a man I still love, as I heard the Prophet saying ‘Learn the recitation of Qur’an from four from `Abdullah bin Mas`ud – he started with him—Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hudaifa, Mu`adh bin Jabal and Ubayy bin Ka`b”[3] .

Muhammed never mentioned Zaid, yet he was the one who compiled the Qur'an we have today. A Qur'an rejected by reciters anointed by Muhammad himself.

This goes to show the Prophet himself wouldn't approve of the uthmanic codex Muslims parade up and down as the true Qur'an.

Find a good job.
We have debunk this claimed several..
Find a better things to do
Don't compare Quran with KJV who wrote it sleep with his own mother, and claimed holy spirit to be adding and removing from the words of messangers of God

2025 a new Bible is coming out. And u want to compare ur modified books to the Quran?

Hamzaay:
2025 a new Bible is coming out. And u want to compare ur modified books to the Quran?

Just like new translation of Qur'an will come out in 2025.
Focus on the topic.

Why did Ubay and ibn mosood reject the Qur'an compiled by Zaid.
Why did Abu bakir choose to ignore the best of reciters approved by Prophet Muhammad for the job of compilation of the Qur'an.

Lol... show proof bro. Don't drag islam into the mud with Christianity

SIRTee15:


Just like new translation of Qur'an will come out in 2025.
Focus on the topic.

Why did Ubay and ibn mosood reject the Qur'an compiled by Zaid.
Why did Abu bakir choose to ignore the best of reciters approved by Prophet Muhammad for the job of compilation of the Qur'an.

Hamzaay:
Lol... show proof bro. Don't drag islam into the mud with Christianity

Focus on the Qur'an. That bible is false doesn't make Qur'an true.
They are 2 independent variables. One doesn't validate or invalidate the other.

Why did ibn mosood and Ubay reject the Qur'an compiled by Zaid.
Answer the question

Show me or give me a reference and i will give
you an answer

SIRTee15:



Why did ibn mosood and Ubay reject the Qur'an compiled by Zaid.
Answer the question

Hamzaay:
Show me or give me a reference and i will give
you an answer

Its in the main article, can't repeat myself.

No reference bro

SIRTee15:


Its in the main article, can't repeat myself.