Friday, December 2, 2011
[size=14pt]Outrageous! Afghan Woman To Be Freed From Jail After Agreeing To Marry Her Rapist[/size]

A 19yr old Afghan woman, Gulnaz, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for adultery after relatives discovered the unmarried lady was pregnant. (It's a crime in Afghanistan to have sex outside of marriage). Gulnaz told authorities that her cousin's husband had raped, and made her pregnant and that she had tried to fight him off on the night he attacked her. The alleged rapist, who was also arrested and locked up for adultery, denied it was rape.


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Gulnaz in prison with her young son

After Gulnaz incarceration, the EU and other world human rights organizations got involved and called on the Afghan president to release the rape victim. Yesterday Thursday December 1, Afghan President Hamid Karzai pardoned Gulnaz, on the condition that she will marry her attacker.


Gulnaz had initially refused a judge's offer of freedom if she agreed to marry the rapist. She changed her mind because she didn't want her child, who had been born in prison, to grow up in prison. And also because that was the the only way to bring peace between her, her family and her rapists family, as she is said to have brought shame to both families.

About half of the 300 to 400 women jailed in Afghanistan are imprisoned for so-called "moral crimes" such as sex outside marriage, or running away from their husbands, according to reports by the United Nations and research organizations.

http://lindaikeji..com/2011/12/outrageous-afghan-woman-to-be-freed.html

for the woman to be punished,it is more than likely that she could not prove that she was actually ra.ped that is to my knowledge as far as islamic law is concerned.

but now,let us examine what the bible says about a ra.pe victim:

A RA.PE VICTIM MUST MARRY THE RA.PIST:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver.c He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

LagosShia:


A RA.PE VICTIM MUST MARRY THE RA.PIST:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and Desecrates her and they are discovered, 29he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver.c He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Assuming I buy this explanation which you quoted in the Deut, where did the verse say the woman MUST marry the man?. Is it not the other way round?. In other words, if the woman decides not to marry the rapeist, she will be left alone?. Besides, the culture in the old testament is different because back then, repped women are seen in Israel as outcasts. That's why the law demands the men who rap`e them to marry them. Stop using MOSAIC law to support evil in Islam. There is no law in Christianity that demands a rapeist or his victim to marry each other.

aloy/emeka:

Assuming I buy this explanation which you quoted in the Deut, where did the verse say the woman MUST marry the man?. Is it not the other way round?. In other words, if the woman decides not to marry the rapeist, she will be left alone?. Besides, the culture in the old testament is different because back then, repped women are seen in Israel as outcasts. That's why the law demands the men who rap`e them to marry them. Stop using MOSAIC law to support evil in Islam. There is no law in Christianity that demands a rapeist or his victim to marry each other.

didnt you read:"he must marry the girl"? na by force!

"evil islam"? fool!

"mosaic law"? bloody fool!!! is it not the same God in the old testament that is also revered in the new testament?

I'm off to romantic dinner and will be right back to deal with you, mallam Lagos-Bin-shia.

LagosShia:

didnt you read:"he must marry the girl"? na by force!

"evil islam"? fool!

"mosaic law"? bloody fool!!! is it not the same God in the old testament that is also revered in the new testament?

Like I said before, that's Mosaic law beside, he MUST marry the girl does not equate to the girl MUST marry HIM. Because of the stigma attached to ra.ped women back in those days, rapeists are forced to marry their victims in order to avail the women from the ugly stigma that will turn her into a laughing stock. But, if the lady decides to live with the stigma and not marry the man, she is to be left alone BUT in modern day, Islam, the lady MUST marry the rapeist or stay in jail and if the rapeist decides not to marry the victim, she will forever be condemned to jail for a crime she didn't commit. Who said your Muhammad isn't fair?.

I repeat, Mosaic law is different from Christian law. Duh, Christianity means a faith based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and the teachings start from the book of Mattew through Revelation; you may argue with Judaism over the issue of Mosaic law and not Christians but I don't expect you to understand it since you are bigoted.

@ aloy/emeka - when u come back from ur flirting do explain to me why u like to judge muslims & islam even though ur religion forbids u from doing so.

by d way couldn't u be sincere & try to take those attacks of urs to ur fellow travellers in christendom esp with all dis calls coming from dat quarter for freedom to commit homosexuality and lesbianism? u ppl have turned sex into multi million dollar industry with all those ponographic movies and u came here like d true enemy of God dat u are talking to us about freedom. may God curse ur freedom & punish u in dis life and the next for what u're doing against His commands. amin.

@aloy

and what happens if you get ra.ped by the man you dont want to marry? the possibilities are three:

1.) you accept to marry him
2.) abandon him and become a "laughing stock"
3.) he goes free

show me where in the Quran it says that the vitcim must be jailed?

also,you try to run away by the usual excuse of "mosaic law" and "old testament".isn't that part of your holy bible? wasn't that inspired by the same God you believe also inspired the new testament? amazing how you people think.so your god was the "bad guy" in the old testament who became the "good guy" in the new testament?!!!so he changes his mind and is in one place "bad" and in another "good and repentant"?

this is what your bible claims Jesus said:

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

i dont expect you to understand.you believe in the fictitious and lies.

LagosShia:

@aloy

and what happens if you get ra.ped by the man you dont want to marry? the possibilities are three:

1.) you accept to marry him
2.) abandon him and become a "laughing stock"
3.) he goes free

show me where in the Quran it says that the vitcim must be jailed?

also,you try to run away by the usual excuse of "mosaic law" and "old testament".isn't that part of your holy bible? wasn't that inspired by the same God you believe also inspired the new testament? amazing how you people think.so your god was the "bad guy" in the old testament who became the "good guy" in the new testament?!!!so he changes his mind and is in one place "bad" and in another "good and repentant"?

So what did the quran say about rapeed women?. This lady was jailed under Islamic law?. Muhammed commanded her detention and imprisonment or are you denying that?. The only option left for her in this case is to marry the man or stay put in jail. That's how Muhammed taught his followers because women were like cattle in his opinion.So, why treat a cattle better than a human even if the human is rap.ed the cattle?.
On your good God and bad God, I don't expect you to understand the new covenant. Many stories in the old testament were events recorded and told for a reason. When David sent Uriah to the battle front so he can sleep with his wife, the bible didn't record it because Christian men are supposed to kill the men they covet their wives, rather it was told to help educate Christians. Go read the books of Isiah and Ezekiel in full, then come back lets talk.

LagosShia:


this is what your bible claims Jesus said:
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

i dont expect you to understand.you believe in the fictitious and lies.

Another cheap attempt to prove stupidity by a muslim kafir. Jesus was talking about the law of the land because they thought He was trying to abolish their laws and culture. I don't expect you to understand.

aloy/emeka:

Another cheap attempt to prove stupidity by a muslim kafir. Jesus was talking about the law of the land because they thought He was trying to abolish their laws and culture. I don't expect you to understand.

Listen to yourself. Are u making sense at all? You are claiming Jesus was willing to preserve the law of the land but wanted to abolish the laws of his father.

The verse clearly says 'abolish the Law or the Prophets'. Are you also trying to tell us he is talking about the prophets of the land and not those that he father sent. Please dont be silly! U dont av to make a joke of your intelligence just beacuse you want to argue a point

the_seeker:

Listen to yourself. Are u making sense at all? You are claiming Jesus was willing to preserve the law of the land but wanted to abolish the laws of his father.

The verse clearly says 'abolish the Law or the Prophets'. Are you also trying to tell us he is talking about the prophets of the land and not those that he father sent. Please dont be silly! U dont av to make a joke of your intelligence just beacuse you want to argue a point

Which laws were the laws of His father?. The only law given by God was the 10 commandments written on tablets of stone but when Christ came, the laws became written in our hearts. Please read masaic law well before engaging me in any form of diatribe, you kafir.

Pls hang your head in shame and stop embarasing yourself the more

The easiest thing to do is to insult people and that is what you are doing now but I see that as blowing hot air, foo.

I am not insulting you. You are the one making a mockery of your own intelligence by been evasive when confronted with the obvios

the_seeker:

I am not insulting you. You are the one making a mockery of your own intelligence by been evasive when confronted with the obvios

^^^^

aloy/emeka:

What point are you trying to make here. That fornication is good or that chastity is bad. Shame on you. Shame on xtrianity. For you have have sold your moralities for the bliss of this world. And ar desperate to drag muslims down to hell with you

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Muslim girls in Austria fighting forced marriages / Program for women helps them escape from family pressures, unwanted weddings -- and violence

When 15-year-old Fatima traveled to Turkey last year to attend the wedding of a male cousin she had never met, she was eager to meet the bride and groom.

But after she arrived in the small Turkish village where her parents had lived before immigrating to Austria, the Vienna high school pupil's enthusiasm quickly turned to panic when she learned that she was the bride.
Despite Fatima's frantic resistance -- her father beat her until she consented -- the dark-haired teen went ahead with the marriage planned by the couple's parents.
"Marriage once meant bliss and great happiness, but it turned out to be a horrible ordeal that I will never forget," said Fatima, who asked a reporter not to use her last name for fear of reprisal.

Fatima and thousands of other Muslim girls living in Austria and neighboring Germany are fighting back thanks to the emergence of support groups that help them find lawyers, housing and new identities. Muslim Turks comprise the majority of Austria's 400,000-member Islamic community and 2.8 million of Germany's estimated 9 million foreigners.
Fatima turned to Orient Express, a Vienna nonprofit agency of mostly Turkish women that has helped 28 victims of forced marriage in recent months. The group hired a lawyer, who won an annulment by invoking a new penal code in Turkey that increased the minimum age of marriage for women from 15 to 18. Now 16, Fatima lives in a safe house in Vienna beyond the control of her father, who she says remains enraged by her defiance.
"It's always been the job of Turkish men to defend the honor of their families," said Serap Cileli, a Turkish-born writer who at 15 was forced into an arranged marriage and now lives in Berlin. "Fathers and brothers watch over the morals of the women in the family, and what they consider proper dress, general conduct and lifestyle. , In return the women must not do anything that in the men's view may soil the family's honor."
Activists have long complained that European law enforcement officials and politicians avoid dealing with the problem because they consider forced marriage a cultural issue. An estimated 30,000 forced brides live in Germany, according to ARD, a German national television network. No reliable figures exist in Austria, but it is estimated that fewer than 1,000 women live in arranged marriages.

http://smartmuslimgirls..com/p/muslim-girls-articles.html

@aloy/emeka

is this also found in your bible?:

Death to the Ra.pe Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
"If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife".

Dont mind the hypocrites.

Seriously, trying to find help for Islamic women in an Islamic country is a mystery. Mohammad sanctioned it and made them only good for se.x,so they have to live with it.

If any cannot bear it,run away to the West for protection and freedom.

^^^I am trying to find help for the christian women in the west and christian countries, from sexual oppression and exploitation. How do we do it that woman is not judged by her pretty face and front or back strokes as if she is in swimming pool? Can you suggest how man does not think he is the crown of a woman, without him she is garbage?

Judek2:

Seriously, trying to find help for Islamic women in an Islamic country is a mystery. Mohammad sanctioned it and made them only good for se.x,so they have to live with it.

If any cannot bear it,run away to the West for protection and freedom.

please watch the below.its just 6 minutes.then come back and tell us what you think as a christian:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHW6gCzpd1k

and if you got the time,see this:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-851453.0.html

Sweetnecta:

^^^I am trying to find help for the christian women in the west and christian countries, from intimate oppression and exploitation. How do we do it that woman is not judged by her pretty face and front or back strokes as if she is in swimming pool? Can you suggest how man does not think he is the crown of a woman, without him she is garbage?

Actually, How can I or We help these poor muslim women,who are forced to cover their face in shame after being railed by Muslim men with extra large p.enis,and uncontrolable desire due to lack of circumsision.
The worst is they are forced to marry the same monster or forever keep silent.

Muslim women,my only answer is the WESTERN FREEDOM or DIVINE PROTECTION.

Not only the WEST,but Eastern Nigeria or Ghana and other dominant Christian states.

circumcission is an obligatory act of worship in Islam that without performing it before puberty,your prayers and deeds and worship are void and unaccepted in the sight of God Almighty.

LagosShia:

circumcission is an obligatory act of worship in Islam that without performing it before puberty,your prayers and deeds and worship are void and unaccepted in the sight of God Almighty.

As a matter of fact, Circumcission is not Obligatory in Islam.

Anyway,its quite interesting some Muslims does,so I'm not generalising here.