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Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 10:08am On Oct 10, 2007
Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As we walk in unity based on the fact that JESUS is Lord!



Topic's scripture

“How good and pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity, for there the Lord has commanded the blessing…” (Psalm 133:1-3).


Did you know the Lord has commanded that blessing come upon you when you are at peace with your brothers and sisters in the Lord? As believers, we are called to work together in unity in order to fulfill God’s purposes. We are called to serve one another in love and serve together in the house of the Lord. Is there someone that you don’t quite get along with? Pray for that person. Go out of your way to be a blessing to them. Do your best to walk in peace and unity. As we serve one another in love, the Bible says the world will know that we are Christians. The world will recognize that we are true followers of Christ by our actions and by our words. Make the decision today to live in peace and unity with your brothers and sisters in the Lord. If the only thing you can agree on is that Jesus is Lord, focus on that. Focus on the love you have for God and for seeing people come to know Him. As you focus on walking in peace and unity, you will walk into the place of blessing the Lord has commanded for you! Believe me, it works.

A Prayer for unity

Heavenly Father, search my heart today and see if there is anything that is keeping me from walking in unity with other believers. I choose love today. I choose peace today. I choose unity today. Help me to be an example of love to those around me. In Jesus’ Name. Amen
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Oby1(f): 3:10pm On Oct 10, 2007
amen!!!
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by cgift(m): 3:31pm On Oct 10, 2007
INfourmer, i want to fault you there please.

Catholics very clearly have several things they worship albiet unknowingly by most of them. Check the religious board and read our engagements with them on the RCC. They hav transferred all worship to Mary and has made teh Word pf God of no effect in their lives. D you know thy tell you that their traditions (doctrines) though cannot be substantiated by the bible, is greater than the bible!

How can you then say they worship God if their traditions invalidate the scriptures whic hthe bible says is God? They are against God and his words in effect and are therefore anti-Christs belying the Word of God. Check it out yourself.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 9:39pm On Oct 10, 2007
Does the Bible call Christians to just any kind of "UNITY" for the sake of keeping us as ONE?

Definitely not! We understand the feelings of some to see 'Christians' unite - and indeed "unity" is a very desirable element of our Faith. However, the God does not want us to miss the fact that there is ONLY ONE type of unity in the Bible for Christians: the UNITY of the Spirit --

[list][li]'Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace' (Eph. 4:3)[/li][/list]

It therefore becomes imperative for us to understand the one basic fact about the Spirit of God: He unites believers in the truth of God's WORD! The Spirit of God does not seek to bring believers under a so-called "unity" where all sorts of things occur and there's no discernment of truth. Rather, we can understand His ways from what He has revealed of Himself - for He is called "the Spirit of TRUTH" (John 16:13). We respond to Him in recognition of the following:

(a) He inspired the Scriptures (2 Pet. 1:20 & 21)

(b) He interprets the Scriptures (John 14:26)

(c) He intimates us with the reality of the Saviour (John 16:13).


Will He then, who is Himself called the Spirit of TRUTH, turn round and lead us into what is not of CHRIST?

Let us examine these matters carefully.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 10:22pm On Oct 10, 2007
Some things to Note about Godly UNITY in CHRIST

[list]#1. As Christians, we aim to speak the same things:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." (1 Cor. 1:10)[/list]

What happens when we are holding on to different things and cannot agree to set our hearts and minds on what is revealed by God to us? Do the human opinions and traditions of men unite us - especially when such traditions are actually directly disobeying God's WORD? Sample a few:

       * God forbids us from bowing down to statues, molten images, etc.Exo. 20:4-5
          If some want to bow down to such in disobedience, where is the unity?

       * God's WORD presents us with only one Saviour by which we must be saved.Acts 4:12
          If some are asking for more than one "savior", where is the unity?

We would have to look carefully at the testimony of Scripture which reveals God's truth to us, so that we can speak the same thing rather than different things contradicting His WORD.


"For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea." (2 Cor. 1:19)
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 4:34pm On Oct 11, 2007
@ pilgrim, sometimes you just make me laugh! grin
How do you want to bring up unity without first having love? Will you force those that dont worship right by the spirit? Everything is founded on love,what is love? Love is a force towards object of warm affection or devotion without condition.

Romans 13:10

Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Who will you take as your neighbour,is it the same person that attends the same church as you?

1 Corinthians 13:2
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

I think you need to reason that without love,the Holy spirit that in

Ephesians 4:3
Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.

How do you keep the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace without love? I dont know.

But ONE thing I know is that, when you have the love of God in you-Others wrongs or rights dont matter.

Stop Criticising ,rather correct.
In case you know not what criticising exactly means its To express one's views as to the merit or demerit of; esp., to animadvert upon; to find fault with.

Am not suprised at your post,actually I was expecting everything you posted but First I would like to ask this, have you ever asked a catholic what they worship and serve rather than you concluding that they worship mary and bow down to her. Why don't you ask a catholic first.

I quite accept that God Himself forbids us from bowing down to statues, molten images. Which the catholics have taken into a practise, but who are we to judge. A man can worship another god not only by bowing down to a statue but by so many other ways,possibly by worshiping what he eats and drinks,his own body and his own will.

But remember,to be in unity is not contradicting what someother person believes, but not accepting it and still let the love be,rmbr the same bible said

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.

AND

2 John 1:7
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

So its quite very confusing who knows God and who doesnt,rmbr even some who think they know him wont be allowed into the kingdom even if they healed in his name and cast out demon in his name

Mathew 7
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


So I'll say do not be too quick to judge. All I said when starting this thread was that If the only thing you can agree on is that Jesus is Lord, focus on that.
And playing you know all and that some are not serving God is like you claim to be perfect in all your ways and then you render this verse not for you.

Matthew 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.


@pilgrim

please if you want to refrence a passage in the bible,do so with the full name of the book and not in short forms. Thank you.

With God,
With Love.
Remember,[b]1 Corinthians 16:14[/b]Do everything in love kiss
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 1:21am On Oct 12, 2007
@Infourmer,

How body? grin

I was really teased on reading your rejoinder on this subject of "unity" among Christians. Your worry was that I started my discussion without first quoting all those verses on "LOVE", and therefore you happen to read my rejoinder as below your ecclesiatical call for 'unity', abi? No wahala - you know I don't waste serious time on fellas who simply rant and skirt round issues.

Anyhow, now that you have quoted all the verses you know on 'love', can we move on?

Infourmer:

@ pilgrim, sometimes you just make me laugh!
How do you want to bring up unity without first having love? Will you force those that don't worship right by the spirit?

First, I wasn't asking anyone to hate others, was I? Second, the topic was addressing seeking to address the question of 'unity' among Christians (as could be deciphered from your OP), and I wasn't aware that there was a law that we should rather quote all the verses on "love" before dealing with the core issues of this thread (nevermind that you failed to do so initially). So, I really don't see what your complaints bear any significance here, unless you simply had to force yourself to find lines to critique in my posts. All good and well. smiley

Infourmer:

Everything is founded on love,what is love? Love is a force towards object of warm affection or devotion without condition.
Who will you take as your neighbour,is it the same person that attends the same church as you?

Thank you for that terse definition of "love". The problem, however, is that it blinds itself to the real issues of the day and ignores the fact that there are actually certain conditions attached to understaning Biblical love. For good starting points, please see Psalm 145:20 and 1 John 2:5 & 15. This idea of selective reading in order to squeeze Biblical concepts into self-made notions do not square with a wholistic approach to understanding the Christian Faith.

Second, have I hinted anywhere that 'my neighbour' is the one who chooses to attend the same church as mine? Perhaps you need to be reminded that I've always kept my discussions on a fair platform, rather than seeking to draw attention to 'my church'.

Infourmer:

I think you need to reason that without love,the Holy spirit that in

Did you get stuck somewhat that you forget to complete that line? grin

Infourmer:

How do you keep the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace without love? I don't know.

It would be nice if you could just quote a line in my posts where I ever I asked anyone to try to keep the unity of the Spirit with "hate"; otherwise I don't see where you lost the plot to lecture me on "love". Thanks for the lecture all the same.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 1:22am On Oct 12, 2007
Infourmer:

But ONE thing I know is that, when you have the love of God in you-Others wrongs or rights don't matter.

I hear. grin Since such "wrongs or rights don't matter", one wonders why it was necessary for the apostles to have warned us about such matters - and asked us to have no fellowship with those who are determined to pursue an adventure of what is clearly wrong! Shocked? You don't need to be - at least, we can sympathise with your fallacies in as much as they demonstrate that you no longer listen to God's WORD. If you have been listening attentively to His WORD, you would not be offering such classic bloviates as the above in your quote.

In any case, please pick up your Bible and carefully read the following:

"And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church:
but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee
as an heathen man and a publican." - - - (Matt. 18:17)

"But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous,
or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat." - - - (1 Cor. 5:11)

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions
and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;
and avoid them" - - - (Rom. 16:17)

"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly,
and not after the tradition which he received of us" - - - (2 Thes. 3:6)

"Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because
thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess,
to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication,
and to eat things sacrificed unto idols." - - -(Rev. 2:20)

Perhaps now you can ask yourself the question again: does it matter that we be careful about whether or not believers are living "wrong or right"? grin

You see, Infourmer, you really had no serious issues to present. A diabolic "unity" will not pass the test on the basis of a so-called "love" that rejects God's WORD. There's certainly love in the Spirit - and that love is expressed in our obedience to what He has revealed in Scripture. The moment we close our eyes and ears to the Bible, you can be sure that it is no longer a godly "unity" that is being presented - not even if you preach "love" from now till thy kingdom come on such a shaky premise.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 1:23am On Oct 12, 2007
Infourmer:

Stop Criticising ,rather correct.
In case you know not what criticising exactly means its To express one's views as to the merit or demerit of; esp., to animadvert upon; to find fault with.

Once again your crash course on 'criticising' is appreciated. Perhaps, someday you might have the happy felicitations to visit the subject discussed in Wikipedia, which explains that 'Criticism is the activity of judgement or informed interpretation', thank you. grin Small wonder that subscripts to bloviates are not exactly my kinda thing.

Infourmer:

Am not suprised at your post,actually I was expecting everything you posted but First I would like to ask this, have you ever asked a catholic what they worship and serve rather than you concluding that they worship mary and bow down to her. Why don't you ask a catholic first.

Let me answer in three points:

(a) Yes, I've asked many informed Catholics (unlike the respected Forumites/parishioners who many times have no clues to what they're talking about). Indeed, those asked have affirmed that Catholics both "serve", "bow down to", "pray to", and "venerate" MARY. We've been through these debates many times, and I don't suppose that you'd be asking this question - unless you simply would like to write off the Catholic forumites who have engaged in these discussions as simply not "Roman Catholics".

(b) Second, I've NOT 'concluded' anything about Catholics without ensuring that the hard facts are in concerning the issues you read in my post. What is more, I try to keep abreast with events so I don't misquote or misrepresent Catholics, which otherwise would be quite unfair to them as well as preposterous on my part.

(c) Third, just in case you'd be wondering indeed what references could confirm the issues listed above (to "serve", "bow down to", "pray to", and "venerate" MARY), there are loads of them - and rare Vatican materials clearly demonstrate that MARY is being worshipped in Catholicism. Many RCC 'faithfuls' usually deny these issues until the evidence is posted for all to read - as they did with regards to 'praying to' Mary and bowing down to her statues.

If you want references to the fact that Catholics actually are engaged in these things, simply ask - pilgrim.1 will gladly serve you as many as could satiate your thirst thereto.

Infourmer:

I quite accept that God Himself forbids us from bowing down to statues, molten images. Which the catholics have taken into a practise, but who are we to judge. A man can worship another god not only by bowing down to a statue but by so many other ways,possibly by worshiping what he eats and drinks,his own body and his own will.

Uhm. . . actually, Infourmer, that sounds even more twisted than the sense you tried to make. On the one hand, you cringe from being labelled a "judge"; but that only comes right after you had judged the Catholic practice of bowing down to statues as forbidden by God! It were better to have been mute on that than pretend to not 'judge' what you already have judged. Please.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 1:24am On Oct 12, 2007
Infourmer:

But remember,to be in unity is not contradicting what someother person believes, but not accepting it and still let the love be,

I haven't asked that anyone be strangled for not believing what I do. And because I love them enough to not play politics with the false security that the Vatican exposes their souls to, I'll continue to warn them. It doesn't matter that people are averse to being told the truth, be that as it may be told in love; but God desires that truth still be told regardless of the fiesty aversion. Here - perhaps a page from the porphet Ezekiel:

"And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear,
(for they are a rebellious house,) yet shall know that there hath
been a prophet among them. . .

As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them not,
neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house . . .

But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say
unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; He that heareth, let him hear;
and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house."

[Ezekiel 2:5; 3:9 & 27]

There. Love is not just a matter of smiling faces and well-wishes. Love goes deeper than that to call people back to serious issues when they are derailing and risking their spiritual destinies. If you truly love someone, you would warn them of the serious dangers they face - not pat them on the back out of popularity status.

Infourmer:

So its quite very confusing who knows God and who doesnt,rmbr even some who think they know him wont be allowed into the kingdom even if they healed in his name and cast out demon in his name

Rest your heart, dear brother. Faith in Christ guarantees that we can truly know God!! grin

One of the saddest things that has beclouded the spiritual vision of God's children is the fallacy that people cannot know God. If that were true, we would all be in serious trouble indeed! But roll up your sleeves and take a careful look at the fact that the Bible assures us that we can know God -

John 4:22
"Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship:
for salvation is of the Jews."

John 10:14
"I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine."

Heb. 8:11
"And they shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord:
for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest."

Oh yes, we can know God! That's why Christ came, remember - that we might know Him that is true (1 John 5:20). smiley
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 1:25am On Oct 12, 2007
Infourmer:

So I'll say do not be too quick to judge. All I said when starting this thread was that If the only thing you can agree on is that Jesus is Lord, focus on that.

Awww. . . lol. grin Have I become a "judge" for telling the truth, the hard truth and nothing but the truth? So help me God! I certainly have not acted as "judge"; but whatever people feel, I'll still be sharing the truth as I have been blessed to know.

Besides, you should understand that you persuasion in bold is actually another weak fallacy that the enemy loves to use against believers soooo much! as long as we "agree" that Jesus is Lord, we feel that all is well. Friend, think again O! grin The Devil also called Jesus so many things that we Christians can agree on:

~ 'I know Thee who Thou art, the Holy One of God'
(Mark 1:27)

~ 'Jesus, Thou Son of the Most High God' (Mark 5:7)

~ 'Jesus, Thou Son of God' (Mark 8:29)

The idea that all is well as long as we can "agree" about what to call Jesus, is one smart device the enemy uses to confuse so many people and blind them to the very fact that not all who call Jesus "Lord, Lord" will enter into His Kingdom (see Luke 6:46 and Matt. 7:21). We must be sure that we're not cutting corners with God's commandments while pretending to salute Him as "Lord".


Infourmer:

And playing you know all and that some are not serving God is like you claim to be perfect in all your ways and then you render this verse not for you.

Com'on, Infourmer, don't take such a bad hit. I have never claimed to "know it all", nor do I applaud bloviates on pretended scholarship from anyone confusing the Christian faith. Not so many of us know that much (as is the case with yours truly); but until we begin to share what indeed we actually have been privileged by God to know and understand, our hearts will remain as cold as ever.

Infourmer:

@pilgrim

please if you want to refrence a passage in the bible,do so with the full name of the book and not in short forms. Thank you.

With God,
With Love.
Remember,1 Corinthians 16:14Do everything in love

I hear. grin I'll try to do so when replying your posts (if I have the time); as I'm usually in such a rush to thrash issues these days after work before
heading home (you can decode my 'haste' from the many typos in most of my recent posts). Please do bear with the abbreviated references heretofore - but I'm sure the message is not all lost on you.

Be happy! smiley
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 12:27pm On Oct 12, 2007
I hear you cheesy

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone” (Romans 12:18 NIV)

Did you know there is strength in living at peace? That’s why the Lord commands that we live at peace with those around us. When there’s strife and contention, then the enemy has an open door to move in your life. But when we are at peace with those around us, we are in a position of strength. Being at peace with those around you doesn’t mean you have to agree with everyone. It simply means you are walking in love. It means you are patient and kind, not envious, not boastful. It means you are considerate, kind, and gracious because of what the Lord has done in your heart. If you need peace today, ask the Lord to fill your heart so that you can extend peace to those around you. As you do, you’ll live in a position of strength and walk in the daily blessing the Lord has in store for you!

A Prayer for Today

Dear Lord, thank You for the gift of peace which is strength. Today, I choose to release any strife or contention in my heart. I ask You to fill me with Your peace so that I can be an instrument of Your glory in the earth. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Oby1(f): 3:37pm On Oct 15, 2007
@Infourmer
I like you my dear, keep it up and May God grant you more wisdom and knowledge and also may the peace and love of God reign in whatever you do.

And thank you so much for that Prayer, you don't know what that prayer has just done in my life now. (A very big AMEN!!!)
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 3:43pm On Oct 15, 2007
Oby1:

@Infourmer
I like you my dear, keep it up and May God grant you more wisdom and knowledge and also may the peace and love of God reign in whatever you do.

Of course, you go like to read lines that keep you warmed up in the magical fallacies of the Vatican grin

Anyhow, how body?
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 3:53pm On Oct 15, 2007
@Inforumer,

Infourmer:

I hear you cheesy

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone” (Romans 12:18 NIV)

Did you know there is strength in living at peace? That’s why the Lord commands that we live at peace with those around us. When there’s strife and contention, then the enemy has an open door to move in your life.

In other words, it is no longer "unity" or "love" now, but "peace" that has captured your latest attention? I'm glad. grin You see how fellas like you like to spew such bloviates initially, and when you read rejoinders that bring you round your worries, then you're waving a "peace" flag. You do well.

Infourmer:

But when we are at peace with those around us, we are in a position of strength. Being at peace with those around you doesn’t mean you have to agree with everyone. It simply means you are walking in love. It means you are patient and kind, not envious, not boastful. It means you are considerate, kind, and gracious because of what the Lord has done in your heart. If you need peace today, ask the Lord to fill your heart so that you can extend peace to those around you.

Please open your eyes and read God's WORD. The Lord Jesus clearly distinguished His own kind of peace from the "peace" that the world gives - and I'm not about soliciting for your idea that peace and love should simply mean we agree to be mute in the face of open heresy!

For the record, I have peace in my heart - such peace from the Lord Jesus that has helped me weather all the storms of life that come my way; as well as gracefully received the insults that Catholics have heaped on me. I didn't react as long as they were directed at me; but when they have been directed at others, I stood out clear to assuage that brigand attitude from those who claim to be members of the "privileged" church. Where were YOU at such moments? Or, what have you said about the official position of the Vatican damning your soul because you're a non-Catholic?

If sitting on the fence to drink from the cesspool of the Vatican seems the fine business of the day for you, no worries. I don't see any reason why your own peace could have been disturbed by my posts, since you don't agree with me. grin

Infourmer:

As you do, you’ll live in a position of strength and walk in the daily blessing the Lord has in store for you!

Thank you. I do hope that you do gullibly walk in the strength of the Vatican heresy and pander that about as the "peace" pf the Lord. If you do, I'd still have great news for you as to what the Lord Himself says concerning such things.

Enjoy.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Oby1(f): 3:59pm On Oct 15, 2007
Of course, you go like to read lines that keep you warmed up in the magical fallacies of the Vatican

Anyhow, how body?

My dear that is what true Christain is all about (Love the greatest)
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 4:05pm On Oct 15, 2007
Oby1:

My dear that is what true Christain is all about (Love the greatest)

Amen!! Let brotherly love continue (Heb. 13.1) grin
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by cgift(m): 8:45am On Oct 16, 2007
Oby1:

My dear that is what true Christain is all about (Love the greatest)

And what does the catholic church know about love? All they do that is the similitude of love is to capture people ti them down with their heresies. What do you call a church that condemns and anathemises anybody who is not a member of the church? Is that love? A church that has as one of its canons (the innocent proselytes on this board do not know the canons and article of faith of their church anyway) that you must be forced to convert or exterminated if you do not confess or agree with all of the catholic faith tenets including believing the "Immaculate Conception" and then "Assumption" of Mary?

Pleas do not preach that kind of unity please. The only sane thing to do with Catholics is to preach the gospel of salvation and escap from the damnation ahead.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Oby1(f): 9:32am On Oct 16, 2007
Infourmer thanks i think i'm off from this thread before they cut me to pieces because i'm a catholic. Bye
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by cgift(m): 10:17am On Oct 16, 2007
Oby1:

Infourmer thanks i think i'm off from this thread before they cut me to pieces because i'm a catholic. Bye

You lie, its God's words that will cut you to pieces, not our physical swords, the bible says in

Hebrews 4:12 [/b]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, [b]and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.


Red: that's what is cutting you to pieces and will surely continue until you find the true rest in Christ Jesus alone
Green: that's why the Vatican's secrets are being made open for all to see. What the do in the secrets is being declared on the roof tops.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Oby1(f): 2:33pm On Oct 16, 2007
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 3:44pm On Oct 16, 2007
[size=26pt]Faith in Action[/size]

Today's Scripture

“No unbelief or distrust made him waver (doubtingly question) concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong and was empowered by faith as he gave praise and glory to God” (Romans 4:20 AMP).

Today's Word

Praise is powerful! Praise is putting your faith in action. And just as putting your physical body into action to make it grow strong, putting your faith in action through prayer and thanksgiving will cause it to grow strong, too! I love what this verse says about Abraham: No unbelief made him waver regarding the promise of God. What does it mean to waver? To waver actually means to go back and forth. It’s a very unsteady posture. Spiritual wavering is when we go back and forth in believing the promises of God. Wavering shows up in our words and actions. When you speak contrary to God’s promises, you are wavering and unsteady. Notice this verse didn’t say that Abraham never had unbelief or doubting thoughts. It basically says that he didn’t let it control him or cause him to waver in his words, actions and thinking. He took captive every thought and stood strong through His praise and worship! Praise makes you stable. It makes you strong. Decide today to put your faith into action by thanking and praising Him all throughout the day! As you do, you’ll grow strong and live the life of victory God has in store for you!

A Prayer for Today

Heavenly Father, today I choose to bless Your name! I thank You for life. I thank You for breath. I thank You for provision, healing, strength and joy. I praise You for abundantly supplying all my needs so that I can be a blessing to others. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 5:34pm On Oct 16, 2007
Hi @Oby1,

Oby1:

Infourmer thanks i think i'm off from this thread before they cut me to pieces because i'm a catholic. Bye

No vex. . no body is seeking to cut you to pieces. grin We are all seeking to understand some issues that affect us all as Christians; but doing so will necessarily involve our discussing from all perspectives as to what we perceive to be right or wrong in light of the WORD.

Anyhow, remain in one piece - and may God fill your heart with the peace that comes from the knowledge of His WORD. cheesy
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by pilgrim1(f): 5:35pm On Oct 16, 2007
Infourmer:

[size=16pt]Faith in Action[/size]

Today's Scripture

“No unbelief or distrust made him waver (doubtingly question) concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong and was empowered by faith as he gave praise and glory to God” (Romans 4:20 AMP).

I'm just glad to see the effect of our discussing issues. Just about time we read some straight sharing without the Mariolatry from the Vatican! grin
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by cgift(m): 6:28pm On Oct 16, 2007
oby1,

whats that supposed to mean? Is it hard to understand? I had put two questions to you arlier but you would not buldge:

I put them again to you:

Which of these two statements will you pick as a child of God?

[list]
[li]I hereby submit myself to the Bishop of My Diocess in recognition of his superiority over me. I swear that I shall obey him and honour him as my spiritual leader as he directs me in the ways of God and salvation in the Catholic church[/li]
[li]I hereby submit myself to the Bishop of My Diocess in recognition of his superiority over me. I swear that I shall obey him and honour him as my spiritual leader as he directs me in the ways of God and salvation in the Catholic church in as much as his directives are in accordance with the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ as given in the Holy Bible.[/li]
[/list]
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 9:08am On Oct 17, 2007
[size=15pt]New Garments[/size]

Today's Scripture

“Provide for those who grieve…a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. They will be called oaks of righteousness, a planting of the Lord for the display of his splendor” (Isaiah 61:3 NIV).

Today's Word


Do you need a new garment today? I’m not talking about a physical garment. I’m talking about what’s covering your mind and emotions. Are you clothed with despair and disappointment? Are you wearing “heaviness”? If you’ve gone through a hurtful situation, the Bible says there is a time to grieve, and it’s important to release that hurt to the Lord. But the Bible also tells us that God wants to give you a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. You can put on a garment of praise instead of a heavy, burdened spirit. What’s holding you back today? Are the garments of yesterday weighing you down and holding you back? The garment of praise is light and filled with peace and joy. Don’t carry those heavy burdens around anymore! Today is the day for new garments! Forgive those who have hurt you and begin to praise Him! Thank God for life today. Thank Him for the beautiful sunrise. Thank him for restoring you, even if you don’t see it yet. And this verse says, you will be called an oak of righteousness, strong and secure, and you will display the splendor of the Lord all the days of your life!

A Prayer for Today

Heavenly Father, I come to You today and ask that You take off my old, heavy garments of despair and heaviness. Make me new today. Give me a garment of praise so that I can be a display of Your glory and splendor. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 12:32pm On Oct 19, 2007
[size=15pt]Appointed Favor [/size]

Today's Scripture

“For we are God's handiwork, recreated in Christ Jesus, that we may do those good works which God predestined for us, taking paths which He prepared ahead of time, that we should walk in them, living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live” (Ephesians 2:10).


God has already prepared paths for you to take in your future! When God laid out the plan for your life, He lined up the right people, the right circumstances, and the right breaks. In your future, He’s already released favor, supernatural opportunities, and divine connections. The breaks you need in life have already been preordained to come across your path. If you will stay in faith and go out each day and be a person of excellence, you’ll walk into these appointments of favor. It will be just as if you stumbled into God’s blessings! When you really understand this principal, you’ll begin to get excited about every single day! You’ll have a spring in your step as you think about what blessing is coming next! It could be today. It could be tomorrow. It could be next week. Keep expecting. Keep believing. Stay focused on the fact that God has already released into your future everything you need to fulfill your destiny. Start declaring seasons of increase over your life. Declare that the favor is on you and opportunities are coming. As you do, you’ll move forward into the favor and blessing God has ordered for you!

A Prayer for Today

Heavenly Father, thank You for setting up a good life for me. Thank You for ordering good things for my future. Help me to understand Your goodness more so that I can trust You and follow Your path for me all the days of my life. In Jesus Name, Amen.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by cgift(m): 4:22pm On Oct 19, 2007
Informal,

how body? You dey give fire to oby1 them abi? God dey. e be like say ou sanction every religion
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by lafile(m): 4:26pm On Oct 19, 2007
Like Joke like joke 'cut and paste' don plenty pas intelligent post for nairaland sha.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Infourmer: 4:26pm On Oct 19, 2007
Well don't you think its great to share what you find rather than talking out of your butt grin

cgift:

Informal,

how body? You dey give fire to oby1 them abi? God dey. e be like say ou sanction every religion

I give fire to nobody just sharing what have found that can be of good to others,if you choose to-OK and if you do not agree with it-plz move on.
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by cgift(m): 5:16pm On Oct 19, 2007
Infourmer:

Well don't you think its great to share what you find rather than talking out of your butt grin

I give fire to nobody just sharing what have found that can be of good to others,if you choose to-OK and if you do not agree with it-plz move on.

Enjoy ma brother. Enjoy! grin
Re: Potestant, Catholics, Redeem Or Any Other Dont Matter. As Long As. . . . . by Oby1(f): 2:12pm On Oct 22, 2007
Heavenly Father, thank You for setting up a good life for me. Thank You for ordering good things for my future. Help me to understand Your goodness more so that I can trust You and follow Your path for me all the days of my life. In Jesus Name, Amen.


AMEN

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