Since there were never any witnesses to Allah or Gabriel's voices when they gave Mohammed one of his revelations, and thus no shortage of doubters in his day, Mohammed attempted a little damage control:

[b]Sura 9.127 [/b]Whenever there cometh down a Sura, they look at each other, (saying), "Doth anyone see you?" Then they turn aside: Allah hath turned their hearts (from the light); for they are a people that understand not.

Even today some of Mohammed's adherents look upon his illiteracy as a "miracle", in spite of the availability of information in regard to the people that surrounded him. He was certainly a far cry from the quite literate prophets and apostles that were inspired to write the Old and New Testaments of the Word of God.

But the fact that Mohammed was illiterate certainly didn't mean he was blind and deaf. He traveled a lot with his uncle as a child, and in his first wife's business, so there was no lack of exposure to others. Later on he was surrounded by many that knew about Judaism and Christianity.

"From a number of Islamic books we gather that Mohammed was surrounded by many Christians - even if nominal. One of them was Waraqa ibn Naufal, the cousin of Khadija, Mohammed's wife. One of his wives, Umm Habbibah, was formerly the wife of a Christian, Ubaidu'llah ibn Jahsh. Another wife of Mohammed, Miriam, and her sister, Sirin, were Christian slaves given to Muhammad. Biographer Ibn Ishaq records that Abdu'llah ibn Salam (one of the bestt reciters of the Qur'an) was a seasoned Jewish Rabbi before he became a Muslim and personal friend of Muhammad." (Anatomy of the Quran by G.J.O. Moshay)

But perhaps the most valuable source of Mohammed's pseudo-Christian suras and refurbished Jewish and Arabic tales was a friend of his named Jabr. An ex"christian" convert to Islam. Indeed so often did Mohammed have a "revelation" after meeting with his friend Jabr that the local nickname for Jabr became "holy spirit". So pervasive was this view that Mohammed felt compelled to make another attempt at damage control with yet another sura.


The Jabr Connection

Sura 16.103 We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

Again quoting Moshay:

The "man that teaches him" is a young "Christian" friend of Muhammad called Jabr, whom Muhammad always visited at Marwah Quraters, not too far from his house. The allegation was that when Muhammad visited Jabr and heard the stories of the Bible, some were put on record. People believed that Muhammad usually presented these parchments and claimed he had received them hot from heaven through the angel Gabriel.

Muhammad refuted this strong allegation through another "revelation" from "Gabriel." The defense was that since Jabr was of "a foreign tongue" (he was not an Arab by birth), he could not have taught Muhammad anything. But it does not matter if Jabr was a non-Arab. Since he had stayed long in Arabia, he could have known Arabic very well and related his stories to Muhammad in good Arabic. How could Jabr be a close friend of Muhammad (if he did not understand Arabic) since Muhammad did not understand any other language? We must realize too that Muhammad's main Secretary was a Jew. According to Muslim writer Muhammad Haykall, Muhammad,

', had chosen him (the Secretary) for his capacity to write letters in Hebrew and Syriac as well as Arabic. After the evacuation of Jews from Madinah, the Prophet no longer trusted a non-muslim to write his letters.'

That means, too, that the Christian background of Jabr could not be a plausible reason why he couldn't have helped Muhammad in his collection of what is now called the Qur'an. If Muhammad's own Secretary was of "a foreign tongue" and yet well versed in Arabic, Syriac and his own Hebrew language, then it is not inconceivable to get Hebrew scriptures and literature interpreted and translated into Arabic by the Secretary. Since the Secretary was such a brilliant fellow and was versatile in these three languages, therefore, the alleged brilliance of the language of the Qur'an is not a necessary and sufficient proof of heavenly authorship. Rather, it can be a reflection of the brilliance of Jabr, since Muhammad is believed to have been illiterate." (Anatomy of the Quran by G.J.O. Moshay)

Regarding Mohammed's claim of "pure Arabic" there are over 100 non-Arabic words in Persian, Syriac, Hebrew, old Egyptian, Assyrian and Greek. So even Mohammed's claimed "proof" in the above sura is untrue. Even the word for "Gospel", Injil, is a Syriac word.

Mohammed's own textual criticism of his "inspired" verbal record:

Bukhari:V6B61N550 "The Prophet said, 'It is a bad thing that some of you say,? "I have forgotten such-and-such verse of the Qur'an." For truly, I have been caused by Allah to forget it. So you must keep on reciting the Qur'an because it escapes faster than a runaway camel.'"

From one of many websites they quote:

"Ibn Ishaq also provides some detail. (in page180)

"According to my information the apostle used often to sit at al-Marwa at the booth of a young Christian called Jabr (2), a slave of B. al-Hadrami and they used to say "The one who teaches Muhammad most of what he brings is Jabr the Christian, slave of the B. al-Hadrami." Then God revealed in reference to their words "We well know that they say, "Only a mortal teaches him"."

Surah 25:5 And they say: "Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written: and they are dictated before him morning and evening." "

Search Sura 16 103 "jabr"



On Plagiarism

"The influences noted above are not just in hearing stories and having them jotted down as revelations. There are hints of outright plagiarism identified by scholars. But, interestingly, we have a serious challenge concerning the sacredness and originality of the Qur'an:

'And if you are in doubt as to which We (Allah) have revealed to Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter like it, and call on your helper, besides Allah, if you are truthful.'

Most Arabs were illiterate at that time. Moreover, many of the original works from which Arabs could have discovered the sources of the Qur'an material were in foreign languages. Informed scholars now laugh at such a challenge since clear evidence now exists to establish outright plagiarism in the Qura'an. We will now cite a few of these.

It has been established that verses 1, 29, 31 and 46 of Sura 54 (Surat al-Qamar) were lifted from a poem of a[b] pre-Islamic Arabic poet, Imraul Qais[/b]. Even at the time of Muhammad, some sneered at the challenge to 'produce a chapter like it.' For example the poet Imraul Qais' daughter was still alive when Muhammad started his religion. One day this lady was listening to Muhammad reciting the 'revelations' he had just received hot from heaven from his Angel Jubril. She recognized the verses from her father's poems, and stood aghast and amused, wondering how these could be a revelation written by Alland and preserved in the 'Preserved Tablet' in heaven from before the creation of the world!

Another time, this lady met Fatima, Muhammad's daughter, reciting the first verse of Surat Qamar. Qais' daughter said:

'Oh that is what your father has taken from my father's poems ('Mollaqat') and calls it something that has come down to him from heaven!'

If the original works of a secular Arab poet could be seen in the Qur'an, then it is scarcely of any use to maintain the claim that the Qur'an is so wonderful that the most learned Arab or even a spirit could not produce it's kind." (Anatomy of the Quran by G.J.O. Moshay)

Sura 19:28 "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" 29 But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" 30 He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;

Jesus speaking as an infant was lifted from an Arabic apocryphal fable written in Egypt titled "First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ":
", Jesus spake even when he was in the cradle, and said: 'Mary, I am Jesus the son of God. That word which thou didst bring forth according to the declaration of the angel, "

Portions of the preceding from "Anatomy of the Quran" by G.J.O. Moshay. We would suggest that any Muslim that dares to read Moshay's book will leave Islam.




Mohammed discouraged questions:

Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.

So Muslims are instructed to avoid asking questions, highlighting Islam's 1400 year fear of truth. Even today when adherents ask questions of their imams they may find themselves put on a list of budding "apostates". The same reason that Mohammed had probing poets killed and prevented Muslims from making friends of non-Muslims. The same reason bibles are banned in Islamic countries.
The one true God is very much different than that:

1Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

The reason Mohammed discouraged questions is made clear in the very next verse:

102 [/b]Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

But those that "loose their faith" in Mohammed can gain faith in the one true God - the God of love - that His people have followed for 3500 years, through two covenants, detailed in His 1600 year record. Have you ever read any of it? Why not read just a little? The Gospel of John

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

"Allah has hated for you three things: , 3. And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters)." [b](Dr. Khan, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, #555)

That's why "apostates" are killed. So they can't bring the truth of the Word of God to others. Exit penalties are a hallmark of dangerous cults.

Surah 4:89 They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-

There was no shortage of doubters regarding Mohammed's "revelations" being divinely inspired. Besides the Christians and Jews, other Arabs had trouble, likely in part because even Mohammed admitted to reversing himself so often.

A whopping 71 out of only 114 suras are subject to abrogation:

Quran 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?



A slightly more candid translation:

2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?

It would seem that Mohammed even knew how all his change-ups would be perceived:

Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

The brief 23 year record of Mohammed's recitations requiring so much abrogation indicates not divine inspiration but rather the changing whims of its self-serving author. Like the special sura that allowed Mohammed to take his step-son's wife, or the one that allowed him all the wives he wanted, but only for him.

According to Aisha, while they were making preparations to bury Mohammed, goats ate part of the Quran that she kept under her bed. This portion is said to have included the stoning verses.
Is anyone to imagine that this is the way God would preserve His Word? Compare that to the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in the late 1940's, some of which are positively dated to at least 350 BC.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

http://brotherpete.com/quran_inspiration.htm

keep deceiving yourself with your wrong interpretations,

[Quote]John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.[/Quote]But his mother Mary had no husband. How sincere is a claim of a father for a son of a husband-less woman? By the way, on the matter of being the way, the truth and the life and no "man" cometh to God but by Jesus, lets ask if this is true when we make Adam the man here, and Eve the woman? How about the slain Abel, or Prophet Enoch or prophet Noah or prophet Abraham the Friend of God, or Lot or Isaac [I will not mention Ishmael their achillies heel], or Jacob, or Joseph or Moses or Aaron, or Joshua, or Samuel, or Saul, or David, or Solomon, or Elisha or Elijah or Jonah or Job or Zacharias or John the greatest of all prophets of the children of Israel including Jesus who he baptized?

@Tidytim: The above is what grabbed in your post. I will take sometime to read it all and see where your head is. You seem to living out the verse in Surah Maryam where Allah says do you not see how we have let loose Satan on the disbelievers. . . ?

@Deaols; As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah. May Allah continue to keep you and increase you in strength and wisdom. Amin.

deols:

keep deceiving yourself with your wrong interpretations,

Okay, i will send you my UK address on one condition, that you mail me the original Quran , in the original Arabic language.

I will then call on a few Arab friends to help me understand the correct meanings of the various Suras.

If you cannot send me the original Quran, forget it

^^^^ Give me your address and I will mail you original Quran. Original Quran is in arabic.

Warning; Your arab christian friends will never be able to read the Quran without making mistakes. Dr. Anish Shorosh was a good example how Quranic arabic is not on the tongue of arab Kufr.