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Circumcision ) by eninn: 2:17am On Mar 07, 2012
Abu Hurayrah may Allah be pleased with him said: The Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and grant him peace: "_ fitrah is five or five of instinct _: circumcision, removing the pubic hair and, and plucking the armpit hairs, and trim the nails, and trimming the mustache." Sahih Al-Bukhari in dress 5889

Out of instinct: Alambtdoh appearance, and to be in the hadeeth is that if you do these things by nature characterized by its perpetrator, which Allah gave to the slaves and get them out and mustahabb them to be in the best qualities and Ocharfha. Has been reported in some versions of the hadeeth: "Five of the Sunna " rather than instinct.
And circumcision: a source of circumcised any pieces, and you want to cut the skin that covers the glans of the penis, and the shaving is meant by the use of razor _ or any sharp object _ to remove pubic hair, a hair above the man, and round about, and as well as the hair around a woman's vagina.

The British Medical Journal published BMG _ and is the most famous medical journals _ an article on cancer of the penis and causes in 1987, according to this story: Cancer of the penis is very rare, and when the Jews in Islamic countries, where they are circumcised during childhood, and Statistics have proven Medical cancer of the penis when the Jews had not seen in nine patients but only in the whole world.
Among the factors predisposing to a cancer of the penis: balanitis, and what was the circumcision removes the foreskin of the basis of the circumcised men do not happen to have a narrowing of the foreskin, and it is extremely rare to happen balanitis have, and it seems to narrow the foreskin caused by retention of smegma and the discharge collects between the glans penis and foreskin in uncircumcised men, and has been proven that these substances actually carcinogenic.

The magazine published the National Cancer Institute study confirmed that the cancer of the penis is transmitted through sexual contact, and pointed out that the multi-sexual prostitutes lead to this. As stated in a report published by the Academy of children's diseases, which said that circumcision is an effective way to prevent cancer of the penis. And confirmed the American Journal of diseases of children to religious factors when Muslims and Jews that decide to follow the circumcision: Play a key factor in urging them to adopt this common sense and correct from Abu Hurayrah that Abraham circumcised, and to come is the son of eighty. 85% of women married to men without circumcision
Have cancer of the uterus For the rest of the interview
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 6:19pm On Mar 08, 2012
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 4:21pm On Mar 10, 2012
- Circumcision:

For health reasons in the first place



Is removed or cut off excess skin that covers the User masculine men. If you do not remove this skin which will accumulate dirt and germs and bacteria grow and multiply until the cause of many diseases Calcelan and syphilis. With the continued accumulation and the growth of bacteria may become infected men with penile cancer, or the futility of the whole man is not circumcised will accumulate under the foreskin remains of urine and the magnitude of the bacteria and fungi may move this to the bladder and kidneys and cause many infections and excruciating pain. The matter becomes complicated if the bacteria moved to the wife during sex, causing a variety of infections may end infertility, or cancer of the uterus. As a result, there are many risks due to lack of circumcision: So the Prophet ordered us to peace be upon him promised that this matter of human nature by order of God
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 4:47pm On Mar 10, 2012
thanks for this. May I also say something about Female Genital Mutilation, also called female circumcision.

It is totally different from male circumcision and should be avoided by all. many think it is sunnah but many fatawah have been passed on it as just one hadith mentions it and is even seen as daif.

Please o, while the male one has benefits, the female has none but complications abound.
Re: Circumcision ) by musawisdom(m): 7:04am On Mar 11, 2012
deols: thanks for this. May I also say something about Female Genital Mutilation, also called female circumcision.

It is totally different from male circumcision and should be avoided by all. many think it is sunnah but many fatawah have been passed on it as just one hadith mentions it and is even seen as daif.

Please o, while the male one has benefits, the female has none but complications abound.
it is necessary to do d female one too as reported in some hadiths wc i'll find out d author.
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 4:39pm On Mar 11, 2012
yes my dear brothers
thanks to all

The vast majority of women
God created them to an appropriate body
Circumcision does not need to
But
Very few women need it

allah says

(222), Indeed, Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves. "
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 4:50pm On Mar 11, 2012
Musawisdom, provide the ahadith please and tell us the benefits of the mutilation. I mentioned a hadith where prophet is reported to have said remove the tip but do not destroy. FGM has different types. while the one described above is the least dangerous, the other types, I can mention and mention the evils therein are very very dangerous and are being practiced among Muslims with the erroneous belief that they are sunnah.

Even if sunnah, there's no harm in not practicing it, So, why subject our children to this violence.

Am still waiting for ur hadith o cos d one I quoted above is said to be daif by some scholars in majority of the countries where it is practiced.
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 4:54pm On Mar 11, 2012
eninn:
yes my dear brothers
thanks to all

The vast majority of women
God created them to an appropriate body
Circumcision does not need to
But
Very few women need it


allah says

(222), Indeed, Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves. "

Are you saying circumcision would make them pure? explain pls
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 6:39pm On Mar 12, 2012
deols:

Are you saying circumcision would make them pure? explain pls


My dear brother
The issue here
That there are some women and girls

They have a large clitoris and slightly high

In that case requires circumcision
By a very small
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 10:21pm On Mar 12, 2012
^^seriously? that got me laughing. How did you know that? Are you a medical practitioner and if large, does it affect them spiritually in any way?
what does being high mean? is it a sin?
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 8:06pm On Mar 13, 2012
deols: ^^seriously? that got me laughing. How did you know that? Are you a medical practitioner and if large, does it affect them spiritually in any way?
what does being high mean? is it a sin?


No my dear brother

This is to avoid falling into adultery in early age

This makes her think of committing adultery with the other

And circumcision in those cases
Protection and prevention

These very few cases when girls
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 9:53am On Mar 14, 2012
^^I am not a brother.
No my dear brother

This is to avoid falling into adultery in early age

This makes her think of committing adultery with the other

And circumcision in those cases
Protection and prevention

These very few cases when girls

there is no study to confirm that circumcised people don't commit adultery. Why dont parents teach their children the words of the Qur'an against adultery rather than hoping some dangerous actions can stop it. let me tell you the things that can happen when you circumcise a girl-

*she could lose so much blood. that could lead to shocks. she could die as a result
*there is increased risk of having urinary tract infections which can reoccur throughout her life
*the trauma could leave her in a psychological sate, especially when it is done at an older age
*more severe forms of FGm lead to painful sexual intercourse- this leaves both husband and wife in depressed states sometimes, and they cannot even seek help for fear of people talking
*infertility is another problem. this is even worse because she gets to be a victim all over again.
*most circumcisions occur in households and are carried out by untrained local birth attendants who could cut it the wrong way, damaging nerves and cutting the wrong arteries. they use unsterilised equipments exposing the girl to infections, especially HIV.
*the girls are held down by force and could fracture some bones.


this is all that's on my mind now and there is more.

Writing these pain me. WOmen suffer unnecessarily due to customs. we can stop them and why not. and please if you know of the hadith Musawisdom was speaking about, state it. The prophet is a mercy to mankind. He wouldnt have wanted any of the above complications happening to the women.
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 8:57pm On Mar 14, 2012
You're talking about something completely different
You are talking about the peoples and tribes apply circumcision on girls
Simply the application of the customs
Without regard to the need for it or not

Circumcision is not a basis for girls

But very few cases that require

This is a result of medical examination

Not affected by the girl physically and psychologically
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 4:01pm On Mar 15, 2012
i am not aware of any medical reason to circumcise a girl and majority of people who do circumcise their daughters do so for reasons that arent at all medical. Some tell you it is because sunnah. Anyways, it is harmful and should be stopped.
Re: Circumcision ) by tbaba1234: 5:17pm On Mar 15, 2012
Circumcision is Mandatory for men but mustahabb or permissible (depending on the scholar) for female but not obligatory.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is reported to have passed by a woman performing circumcision on a young girl. He instructed the woman by saying: "Cut off only the foreskin (outer fold of skin over the clitoris; the prepuce) but do not cut off deeply (i.e. the clitoris itself), for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favourable with the husband."

So the prophet did not explicitly ban it but his saying project the sensitivity of the issue.

Only the outer part of the skin can be cut off. As long as this is done carefully and the proper medical procedures taken, there should be no long term problem:

"Dr. Haamid al-Ghawaabi says:

The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.

Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.

Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.

Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.

Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire." (http://islamqa.info/en/ref/45528)

In the book on Traditions that affect the health of women and children, which was published by the World Health Organization in 1979 it says:

With regard to the type of female circumcision which involves removal of the prepuce of the clitoris, which is similar to male circumcision, no harmful health effects have been noted. (http://islamqa.info/en/ref/45528)
Re: Circumcision ) by deols(f): 8:12pm On Mar 15, 2012
tbaba1234: Circumcision is Mandatory for men but mustahabb or permissible (depending on the scholar) for female but not obligatory.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is reported to have passed by a woman performing circumcision on a young girl. He instructed the woman by saying: "Cut off only the foreskin (outer fold of skin over the clitoris; the prepuce) but do not cut off deeply (i.e. the clitoris itself), for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favourable with the husband."

So the prophet did not explicitly ban it but his saying project the sensitivity of the issue.

Only the outer part of the skin can be cut off. As long as this is done carefully and the proper medical procedures taken, there should be no long term problem:

"Dr. Haamid al-Ghawaabi says:

The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.

Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.

Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.

Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.

Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire." (http://islamqa.info/en/ref/45528)

In the book on Traditions that affect the health of women and children, which was published by the World Health Organization in 1979 it says:

With regard to the type of female circumcision which involves removal of the prepuce of the clitoris, which is similar to male circumcision, no harmful health effects have been noted. (http://islamqa.info/en/ref/45528)





i wish i can dissect d above but due to constraints i'll give a general reply and hope to b able to reply to my satisfaction later.
First, pls tell m d isnad of that hadith. I'd like to go read it on my own. Like i said an hadith has been reported on it and it only shows permissibility which in essence doesnt make not doing it a sin. And that hadith has been said to be weak

concerning the doctor above, I'd like to know if he is a doctor of medicine and surgery or a phd holder. Many Muslims make d mistake of weaving cultural beliefs into their talks when it has got to do wv Islam.
I must tell u as a matter of fact that most of what he claims are reasons for circumcission are false. There are other equally ridiculous stories like a child born of an uncircumcised woman would die or that circumcision is tahara and any woman without shouldnt handle food nor drinks

I so much dislike so called scholars talking about what they have no knowledge of. Someone once said there is no need for immunization because d almighty Allah already gave us white blood cells to fight infections and his ignorant congregation was hailing their alfa who is also 'versed' in science. Just d same way poor children were exposed to polio because 'america was using it to reduce their population'? Pls Muslims, enough of all these tales. Credit to all the medical findings dont even go to d west alone.
Re: Circumcision ) by tbaba1234: 9:33pm On Mar 15, 2012
i wish i can dissect d above but due to constraints i'll give a general reply and hope to b able to reply to my satisfaction later.
First, pls tell m d isnad of that hadith. I'd like to go read it on my own. Like i said an hadith has been reported on it and it only shows permissibility which in essence doesnt make not doing it a sin. And that hadith has been said to be weak

concerning the doctor above, I'd like to know if he is a doctor of medicine and surgery or a phd holder. Many Muslims make d mistake of weaving cultural beliefs into their talks when it has got to do wv Islam.
I must tell u as a matter of fact that most of what he claims are reasons for circumcission are false. There are other equally ridiculous stories like a child born of an uncircumcised woman would die or that circumcision is tahara and any woman without shouldnt handle food nor drinks

I so much dislike so called scholars talking about what they have no knowledge of. Someone once said there is no need for immunization because d almighty Allah already gave us white blood cells to fight infections and his ignorant congregation was hailing their alfa who is also 'versed' in science. Just d same way poor children were exposed to polio because 'america was using it to reduce their population'? Pls Muslims, enough of all these tales. Credit to all the medical findings dont even go to d west alone.

The hadith is in Abu Dawud (5271): It is classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.(http://islamqa.info/en/ref/45528)

The other hadith you quoted is weak.

Like i said, it is permissible not obligatory according to scholars.
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 2:01pm On Jun 15, 2013
- - Story of Ibrahim and Jesus, and Mohammed (peace be upon them) about circumcision are listed

- That Abraham first circumcised by his hands
- 575
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- Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Abraham did his circumcision with an adze at the age of eighty." Sahih Bukhari

-And Abdul Muttalib circumcised him (Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him)on the seventh day

--even the Messiah. He was circumcised and the Christians affirm that, and do not deny that, as they also affirm that
Christ, peace be upon him had been circumcised in childhood
Listen carefully to the lecture(in luke 2;21)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhVD5HLZMU
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 2:41pm On Jun 18, 2013
Circumcision is in childhood always

Circumcision occurs late in many times as a result of conversion to Islam

"Circumcision of newborn boys (I.e., within the first month of life) brings numerous health benefits, including:

1 – Protection against local infection in the penis, which may result from the presence of the foreskin, causing tightening of the foreskin, which may lead to retention of urine or infections of the glans (tip) of the penis – which require circumcision in order to treat these problems. In chronic cases, the child may be exposed to numerous diseases in the future, the most serious of which is cancer of the penis.

2 – Infections of the urethra. Many studies have proven that uncircumcised boys are more exposed to infection of the urethra. In some studies the rate was 39 times more among uncircumcised boys. In other studies the rate was ten times more. Other studies showed that 95% of children who suffered from infections of the urethra were uncircumcised, whereas the rate among circumcised children did not exceed 5%.

In children, infection of the urethra is serious in some cases. In the study by Wisewell on 88 children who suffered infections of the urethra, in 36 % of them, the same bacteria was found in the blood also. Three of them contracted meningitis, and two suffered renal failure. Two others died as a result of the spread of the micro-organisms throughout the body.


This young French follows the actions of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him and all the prophets, peace be upon them
This young man had been circumcised

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TdER4rireY
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 3:56pm On Jun 22, 2013
Al-Bukhaari (6298) and Muslim (2370) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) circumcised himself when he was eighty years old, and he circumcised himself with an adze. "



An adze (qadoom) is a carpenter's tool; it was also said that al-Qadoom is a place is Syria.



Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said:

It is most likely that what is referred to in the hadeeth is the tool. Abu Ya'laa narrated that 'Ali ibn Rabaah said: "Ibraaheem was commanded to circumcise himself, so he circumcised himself with an adze and it was very painful for him. Then Allaah revealed to him saying," You rushed to do it before We told you what tool to use. "He said," O Lord, I did not want to delay obeying Your command. "



Ibn al-Qayyim said:



Circumcision was one of the things with which Allaah tested Ibraaheem, His Close Friend. He did them perfectly so Allaah made him a leader of mankind. It was narrated that he was the first one who was circumcised, as mentioned above. What it says in al-Saheeh is that Ibraaheem circumcised himself when he was eighty years old. After him, circumcision continued among the Messengers and their followers, even the Messiah. He was circumcised and the Christians affirm that, and do not deny that, as they also affirm that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew2ce3uoIxo
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 3:34pm On Jul 03, 2013
Circumcision is prescribed for both males and females. The correct view is that circumcision is obligatory for males and that it is one of the symbols of Islam, and that circumcision of women is mustahabb but not obligatory.
(222), Indeed, Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves. "
The issue here
That there are some women and girls

They have a large clitoris and slightly high

In that case requires circumcision
By a very small
There are reports in the Sunnah which indicate that circumcision for women is prescribed in Islam. In Madeenah there was a woman who circumcised women and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to her: “Do not go to the extreme in cutting; that is better for the woman and more liked by the husband.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (5271), classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Female circumcision has not been prescribed for no reason, rather there is wisdom behind it and it brings many benefits.

Mentioning some of these benefits

The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid, so they develop an unpleasant odour which may lead to infections of the vagina or urethra. I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.

Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused, which is very annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.

Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.

Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a kind of inflammation.

Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire.



in the case of Pharaonic circumcision which is where the clitoris is excised completely. This does in fact lead to frigidity but it is contrary to the kind of circumcision enjoined by the Prophet of mercy (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he said: “Do not destroy” i.e., do not uproot or excise. This alone is evidence that speaks for itself, because medicine at that time knew very little about this sensitive organ (the clitoris) and its nerves.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jytk1Lchg
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 3:24pm On Aug 17, 2013
. Circumcision is one of the characteristics of the fitrah (the natural state of man), and it is one of the symbols of the Muslims, because it is narrated in al-Saheehayn that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: " The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'The (characteristics of) the fitrah are five: circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, trimming the moustache, cutting the fingernails and plucking the armpit hairs.' "So he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) started with circumcision and said that it is one of the characteristics of the fitrah.



Circumcision as prescribed by Islam involves cutting the foreskin covering the glans of the ***** only. Those who flay the skin surrounding the ***** or flay the entire *****, as is done in some savage countries, and claim in their ignorance that this is the circumcision prescribed in Islam, this is nothing but something prescribed by the Shaytaan and made attractive to the ignorant, and it is a torment to the one who is circumcised. It goes against the Sunnah of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the Islamic sharee'ah which is based on ease and which enjoins preservation of life.

It is haraam for a number of reasons, including the following:



1 - The Sunnah mentions cutting off the foreskin covering the glans of the ***** only.



2 - This is torture and mutilation, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade mutilation and torture of dumb beasts, committing outrages upon them or cutting off their limbs. It is more appropriate that tormenting the sons of Adam should be more forbidden, and a more serious sin.



3 - This is contrary to the humanity and kindness encouraged by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he said, "Allaah has decreed humanity in all things."



4 - This may lead to disease or death of the one who is circumcised, and that is not permissible because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):



"And do not throw yourselves into destruction"

[Al-Baqarah 2:195]

"And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another)"

[Al-Nisa '4:29]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOknBMzhZuo
Re: Circumcision ) by eninn: 4:19pm On Aug 20, 2013

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