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The Chr-i-slam Saga: We Say... They Say... by soloj1(m): 7:36pm On Apr 08, 2012
They listen when we say Jesus Christ is the Word of God.

They know it when we say Jesus is the Spirit of God made flesh and the greatest miracle worker of all time, - for their 'Holy Book' says the same.

They marvel when we say Jesus Christ is more than a prophet- that He is the greatest Priest and soon coming King.

When we say Jesus is the only Way to God and His heaven, they argue why and how? That 'Islam' is the upgraded world religion.

They frown when we say Jesus is the Son of God and the Son of Man. For they reasoned - God does not have a wife, how can He have a son?

When we say Jesus was crucified, He died for our sins, to reconcile us back to God. They say we are mistaken- that God took Jesus unharmed to heaven, while placing Jesus' countenance on Judas who was crucified in error.

When we say Jesus is coming back to judge the whole world, they say its true. But that the judgment is simply to tell us the christians that we missed the bus and are hell-bound!

We say call and believe in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved from damnation in the lake of fire. They say no. That no one knows his fate for sure, not even 'the last prophet', talkless of others. And besides, all must taste hellfire and be brought out according to whether one's good works outweighs there evil works!

They say Mohammad(Pbuh) is the last prophet and thus the seal and greatest of the prophets. We asked - if, as they claim that God took prophet Jesus unharmed to heaven, and that Prophet Jesus will at the end of the age come back to the earth with 'a message to the christians', and to marry, have children and then be killed' -while being a prophet. Then it stands to reason that Prophet Jesus is in essence the last and the seal of the prophets, thereby making Mohammad's (Pbuh) ascertion of being the last and the greatest prophet a fallacy, abi?

When we say- that same Jesus is God and worthy of our worship! They go into an outrageous fit?

How can Jesus be one and all these at the same time?
Oh, the doctrine of The TRINITY! What a mystery it holds.

Only the true seeker finds answer. And many are finding answers. The prophesied harvest is here. Thousands are having strange and dramatic encounters with The Risen Lord. He is undoubtedly proving Himself.
If you are a true seeker, He will find you and fill that void and answer your deepest questions.

So N/landers; christians and muslims alike, what are your views with regards to the above and similar saga?
Re: The Chr-i-slam Saga: We Say... They Say... by logicboy: 9:58pm On Apr 08, 2012
Both of you are wrong. God doesnt exist

Have you ever wondered why God and the prophets of islam/christianity were all based in the middle east when civilization began in Africa?
Re: The Chr-i-slam Saga: We Say... They Say... by Callotti: 10:31pm On Apr 08, 2012
Na real CHRIS-LAM!!!!! cheesy
Re: The Chr-i-slam Saga: We Say... They Say... by logicboy: 10:42pm On Apr 08, 2012
Re: The Chr-i-slam Saga: We Say... They Say... by LagosShia: 12:41am On Apr 09, 2012
solo.j:

They listen when we say Jesus Christ is the Word of God.
Jesus is the word of God because he was created with “Be” and he was;but the word of God is not Jesus.


They know it when we say Jesus is the Spirit of God made flesh and the greatest miracle worker of all time, - for their 'Holy Book' says the same.
By the permission of God he did miracles.

John 5:30
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me".

John 5:19
"Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does".


They marvel when we say Jesus Christ is more than a prophet- that He is the greatest Priest and soon coming King.
Matthew 21:11
"The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee."

Luke 7:16
"They were all filled with awe and praised God. "A great prophet has appeared among us," they said. "God has come to help his people."

Luke 24:19
"What things?" he asked. "About Jesus of Nazareth," they replied. "He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people".

John 9:17
"Finally they turned again to the blind man, "What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened." The man replied, "He is a prophet."


When we say Jesus is the only Way to God and His heaven, they argue why and how? That 'Islam' is the upgraded world religion.

Each prophet is the only way to God for his people in his days.


They frown when we say Jesus is the Son of God and the Son of Man. For they reasoned - God does not have a wife, how can He have a son?

"Can God Have A Son?":
https://www.nairaland.com/811919/can-god-son


When we say Jesus was crucified, He died for our sins, to reconcile us back to God. They say we are mistaken- that God took Jesus unharmed to heaven, while placing Jesus' countenance on Judas who was crucified in error.

"The Christian Resurrection Myth"!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-739850.0.html

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-844081.0.html

"Was Jesus' Blood Loss Before "execution" Important?"
https://www.nairaland.com/851721/jesus-blood-loss-before-execution

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-735489.0.html

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https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-651811.0.html

"original Sin"-linking It To An Imperfect God!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-551599.0.html


When we say Jesus is coming back to judge the whole world, they say its true. But that the judgment is simply to tell us the christians that we missed the bus and are hell-bound!

Ecclesiastes 12:14
"For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil".

Romans 14:10
"You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat".

John 12:47-48
"As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a Judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day."

Contradiction:
John 5:22
"Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son."


We say call and believe in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved from damnation in the lake of fire. They say no. That no one knows his fate for sure, not even 'the last prophet', talkless of others. And besides, all must taste hellfire and be brought out according to whether one's good works outweighs there evil works!
So you say.that is not what Islam teaches or Muslims say.


They say Mohammad(Pbuh) is the last prophet and thus the seal and greatest of the prophets. We asked - if, as they claim that God took prophet Jesus unharmed to heaven, and that Prophet Jesus will at the end of the age come back to the earth with 'a message to the christians', and to marry, have children and then be killed' -while being a prophet. Then it stands to reason that Prophet Jesus is in essence the last and the seal of the prophets, thereby making Mohammad's (Pbuh) ascertion of being the last and the greatest prophet a fallacy, abi?
Did Jesus (as) come before or after Muhammad (sa)?

"Who Is The "comforter" In The Bible And Why"?
https://www.nairaland.com/871478/us-christian-jewish-actor-director-sean#10351101


When we say- that same Jesus is God and worthy of our worship! They go into an outrageous fit?
Mark 12:29
"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

John 20:17
"Jesus said, " Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

John 7:33
"Jesus said, "I am with you for only a short time, and then I go to the one who sent me".

Luke 18:19
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone".

“I "LagosShia" Will Embrace Christianity On Two Little Conditions!”:
https://www.nairaland.com/847520/lagosshia-will-embrace-christianity-two
Re: The Chr-i-slam Saga: We Say... They Say... by Whymee: 4:55am On Apr 09, 2012
The follower of Christ through the bible are always in Chris(t)is CRISIS,

They agree collectively against Islam, but disagree against themselves citing the same references in the bible.

Jesus is son os God, No, he is God himself
Jesus is God's word, No he is The Word
Jesus is a prophet, No, he is more than a prophet.
Jesus was sent by God, No he is God, who transform in Human flesh.
Jesus is the Son of Mary, No, he is the Son of Holy spirit,
Women should not speak in churches, No, the period of grace is here, in my church we have a visiting female pastor.
Thou shall not judge, No, I have a son at the law school, expiring to be a justice.


Put you house in order.

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