Christians believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus christ.

John 14:6
King James Version (KJV)
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

The problem with this belief is that as a Nigerian, you have condemned all your ancestors from the 16th century, who wefre not christians to hell.

Furthermore, if you believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven, these are the following people you have condemned to hell;

-Ghandi (Hinduist) <Ghandi was a saint to his people and a symbol for peace all around the world>
-Bill Gates (Agnostic) <Bill Gates funds numerous charities and is using science to tackle malaria in Africa> <If you are reading this, ur using one of his products>

@logicboy I like you alot because you seek to establish your points by any means necessary. Are you sincerely an Athiest who does believe in the existence of a Supreme otherwise referred to as GOD or are you perhaps anti-christian? You need to state your grounds. In light of the great majority of your statements you always feel a need to push your beliefs/non-belief to others.

The irony of everything is that pursuit of establishing your point you seem to have to make reference to other belief systems. This discredits the notion of Athiesm on your part. In fact there is nothing like an athiest because every single individual consciously or subconsciously believes in something beyond the natural. Like words like supernatural and miracle would not exist in the english language.

Furthermore, I request that you express your contentions with christianity. At the rate you are going you may end one of the strongest believers if you eventually have an encounter with the Almighty

Furthermore, why should an Athiest delve into futile arguments of the existence of heavan & hell & the means by one gains entrance in any. As you don't believe in this then you should not bother arguing about it and going living your life until you meet your abrupt end.

brainchild78: Furthermore, why should an Athiest delve into futile arguments of the existence of heavan & hell & the means by one gains entrance in any. As you don't believe in this then you should not bother arguing about it and going living your life until you meet your abrupt end.

1) I'm an ex-catholic turned atheist
2) You ask why I waste my time arguing about the existence of god when I dont believe in him. I don't care about god? I worry about the people that believe in him and commit atrocities in gods name. Have you been almost killed by a religious person? I have.
3) Answer the question of the topic. Are you going to condemn your ancestors to hell by saying tht the only way to heaven is through Jesus?

Nice thread.
Knock 'em Christians dead!

Callotti: Nice thread.
Knock 'em Christians dead!

logicboy:

1) I'm an ex-catholic turned atheist
2) You ask why I waste my time arguing about the existence of god when I dont believe in him. I don't care about god? I worry about the people that believe in him and commit atrocities in gods name. Have you been almost killed by a religious person? I have.
3) Answer the question of the topic. Are you going to condemn your ancestors to hell by saying tht the only way to heaven is through Jesus?

@ good we are getting somewhere.
1. The fact that you were a catholic before may form the basis of your perspective in relation to christianity or perhaps your disbelief in God. If you do proper research you will unviel that the catholic order is in fact an anti christian institutions guising itself as an model of light. Many of the key persons is this order are satanists and in fact athiest leading others astray in the name of false religions. Remember it was this same order that was responsible for the deaths of many geniune christian adherents.
2. My perseption in relation to the existence of God is from a spiritual angle and on religious basis. If you research the bible well, you will discover that Jesus Christ was actually crucified because he established principles that do away with hypocritical religious practices.
3. Religious folks are blind robots. Nonetheless, true spiritual Christians based their motives and actions on the principles of love. Hence, I do not seek to kill you, steel, convet or envy your, or perhaps sleep with your spouse because I love you the way I love myself. I do not judge you because that same weight which I apply judgement to you will also be applied to me.
4. As a thiest I distance myself from fanatical behaviour which many so called christians engage in deceiving themselves as well as deterring others from seeking the truth. I am a church follower but rather a word understander and adherent guided by genuine spiritual insight.
5. I have been attacked by foolish religous clowns who have no insight towards the truth but rather seek to be institutional robots. Remember many prophets in the bible were despised because they saught understanding which many commoners fail to graspe.
6. I love you as a brother (athiest or thiest the same). I pray you unviel the truth in your life time.
7. Simply because you have been victimised does serve as a basis to draw adverse inferences. Whatever you believe in or disbelieve, my recommendation is that you keep searching for the truth.
8. In relation to your ancestors who were not aware of the existence of Christ, God has judged them according to the realms of their hearts and mind in the same manner he judged the folks in existence before the birth of Jesus Christ.

Now stop bogging your head with blinded religious fanatics and try to rationalise with genuine insightful individuals. Believe it or not Christ would embrace you more because of your sincerity over the self righteous religious individuals.
Cheers mate.

brainchild78:

1. The fact that you were a catholic before may form the basis of your perspective in relation to christianity or perhaps your disbelief in God. If you do proper research you will unviel that the catholic order is in fact an anti christian institutions guising itself as an model of light. Many of the key persons is this order are satanists and in fact athiest leading others astray in the name of false religions. Remember it was this same order that was responsible for the deaths of many geniune christian adherents.
2. My perseption in relation to the existence of God is from a spiritual angle and on religious basis. If you research the bible well, you will discover that Jesus Christ was actually crucified because he established principles that do away with hypocritical religious practices.
3. Religious folks are blind robots. Nonetheless, true spiritual Christians based their motives and actions on the principles of love. Hence, I do not seek to kill you, steel, convet or envy your, or perhaps sleep with your spouse because I love you the way I love myself. I do not judge you because that same weight which I apply judgement to you will also be applied to me.
4. As a thiest I distance myself from fanatical behaviour which many so called christians engage in deceiving themselves as well as deterring others from seeking the truth. I am a church follower but rather a word understander and adherent guided by genuine spiritual insight.
5. I have been attacked by foolish religous clowns who have no insight towards the truth but rather seek to be institutional robots. Remember many prophets in the bible were despised because they saught understanding which many commoners fail to graspe.
8. In relation to your ancestors who were not aware of the existence of Christ, God has judged them according to the realms of their hearts and mind in the same manner he judged the folks in existence before the birth of Jesus Christ.

1) The catholic church is the oldest christian denomination in the world. If they are fake, then christianity is fake. Can you trace your church's history to the first century? No. There was a time that all churches were catholic.

2)Jesus says the only way through to the father is through him and therefore, you are lying as both our ancestors and the people before Jesus Christ would be in hell. This is why christianity is rubbish

3) Are you not Nigerian? How did christianity come to Nigeria? Isnt it through slavery and colonization?

4) Read the bible, from Abraham to Jesus are all Jews. What kind of racist is your christian God to only appear to Jews (Asia, Americas and West Africa not good enough?)? Or is your bible just fairy-tales written by Jews?

5) Bonus fact, did you know that Abraham committed incest as Sarah is his half-sister?

a simple question and christians start running around like headless chickens

Logic Mind: a simple question and christians start running around like headless chickens

They avoid the truth about their religion

@logicboy, there s no point being an atheist, God exists and there s 'life' after death!
Maybe u should try esoterisms like Eckanker, AMORC, etc. They give a break from the corrupt and dogmatism of xtianity and islam, yet keeping ur faith in God!

when someone is through with all the arguments about what is truth and what is not truth then the person can give the spiritual exercises of ECK, a try starting with the Singing of the HU, a love song to God.
in ECKANKAR, we are spiritual scientists. we prove to ourselves any thing presented as truth through our own personal experiences. these experiences become your authority and you do not need anyone to convince you otherwise through arguments or counter arguments.

but if you are still having fun with arguments, then continue having your fun until you are done.

benodic: when someone is through with all the arguments about what is truth and what is not truth then the person can give the spiritual exercises of ECK, a try starting with the Singing of the HU, a love song to God.
in ECKANKAR, we are spiritual scientists. we prove to ourselves any thing presented as truth through our own personal experiences. these experiences become your authority and you do not need anyone to convince you otherwise through arguments or counter arguments.

but if you are still having fun with arguments, then continue having your fun until you are done.

still the same bullshite, just a different name.

cogitoErgo: @logicboy, there s no point being an atheist, God exists and there s 'life' after death!
Maybe u should try esoterisms like Eckanker, AMORC, etc. They give a break from the corrupt and dogmatism of xtianity and islam, yet keeping ur faith in God!

Sorry bro, that stuff is just even more weird religion

brainchild78:
@ good we are getting somewhere.
1. The fact that you were a catholic before may form the basis of your perspective in relation to christianity or perhaps your disbelief in God. If you do proper research you will unviel that the catholic order is in fact an anti christian institutions guising itself as an model of light. Many of the key persons is this order are satanists and in fact athiest leading others astray in the name of false religions. Remember it was this same order that was responsible for the deaths of many geniune christian adherents.
2. My perseption in relation to the existence of God is from a spiritual angle and on religious basis. If you research the bible well, you will discover that Jesus Christ was actually crucified because he established principles that do away with hypocritical religious practices.
3. Religious folks are blind robots. Nonetheless, true spiritual Christians based their motives and actions on the principles of love. Hence, I do not seek to kill you, steel, convet or envy your, or perhaps sleep with your spouse because I love you the way I love myself. I do not judge you because that same weight which I apply judgement to you will also be applied to me.
4. As a thiest I distance myself from fanatical behaviour which many so called christians engage in deceiving themselves as well as deterring others from seeking the truth. I am a church follower but rather a word understander and adherent guided by genuine spiritual insight.
5. I have been attacked by foolish religous clowns who have no insight towards the truth but rather seek to be institutional robots. Remember many prophets in the bible were despised because they saught understanding which many commoners fail to graspe.
6. I love you as a brother (athiest or thiest the same). I pray you unviel the truth in your life time.
7. Simply because you have been victimised does serve as a basis to draw adverse inferences. Whatever you believe in or disbelieve, my recommendation is that you keep searching for the truth.
8. In relation to your ancestors who were not aware of the existence of Christ, God has judged them according to the realms of their hearts and mind in the same manner he judged the folks in existence before the birth of Jesus Christ.

Now stop bogging your head with blinded religious fanatics and try to rationalise with genuine insightful individuals. Believe it or not Christ would embrace you more because of your sincerity over the self righteous religious individuals.
Cheers mate.

You are an olodo o..how can satan(catholic) put together the bible and you use it? so you worship god through satanic material?

cogitoErgo: @logicboy, there s no point being an atheist, God exists and there s 'life' after death!
Maybe u should try esoterisms like Eckanker, AMORC, etc. They give a break from the corrupt and dogmatism of xtianity and islam, yet keeping ur faith in God!

Rubbish