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| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Beaf: 2:33am On May 09, 2012 |
shymmex: ^^^ What are you doing to change the trend?? I am as much part of the system as you are (and as everyone else on this thread is). Anytime I show a movement I am part of on NL, people (much in your type of makeup) call it a fraud, call us all sorts of names and try to pull a good thing down. It is part of the problem of the African, there are too many traumatic issues blinding the eye of the mind from roaming beyond plastic bounderies to see exciting possibilities and enriching alternatives. You can view this website as a practical effort from some of us to better the lot of those without opportunities: www.afrosciencecommunity.com It is a very difficult venture, because of both the subject and the nature of the recipient. It is really tough because our people have the wrong mindset, but we keep pushing on. One day, we will breach the watershed and become a living movement.  |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by nduchucks: 10:11am On May 09, 2012 |
Without much academic mumbo jumbo or pretty analysis, I'll say that Africa is backward because of the very African culture which makes one an African. This culture and tradition does not encourage anyone from challenging views held within the community even if they have been proved to be unworkable and senseless. Innovation is taboo in many cases. Question an elder and you could be ostracized from the community. Even when an African is removed from Africa and placed elsewhere in the world, the African is still limited by this culture and tradition. In short, you can remove the African from the bush, but you cannot remove the bush from the African. Place an African in a 'first world' country, he/she will still prefer to eat very hot Eba or Akpu with his fingers even when forks and knives are readily available. To progress, the African culture and/or tradition must be completely eradicated. The eradication of this culture is impossible, hence Africa will remain in its currect state unless a global disaster causes a major reordering of the world order. no be me send una to begin build tower of babel, back in the day. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by jbrodaly(m): 10:36am On May 09, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: Without much academic mumbo jumbo or pretty analysis, I'll say that Africa is backward because of the very African culture which makes one an African. This culture and tradition does not encourage anyone from challenging views held within the community even if they have been proved to be unworkable and senseless. Innovation is taboo in many cases. Question an elder and you could be ostracized from the community. what kind of analysis is this?What has "Eba" or "Akpu" got to do with this?!Very typical! |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by cold(m): 11:55am On May 09, 2012 |
ndu_chucks:So in your mind's eye,eating with a fork & a knife translates to innovation?Smh,what of chopsticks?No? ndu_chucks: You even go further to talk about the Tower of Babel.Sheesh!You're the very reason Africa has remained in a comatose state.This is what you get when intellectual midgets delve into topics way out of their depth 1 Like |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Beaf: 12:52pm On May 09, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: Without much academic mumbo jumbo or pretty analysis, I'll say that Africa is backward because of the very African culture which makes one an African. This culture and tradition does not encourage anyone from challenging views held within the community even if they have been proved to be unworkable and senseless. Innovation is taboo in many cases. Question an elder and you could be ostracized from the community. This post fully exposes the low self esteem issues I have been talking about. How can we even properly table matters of progress when members of our elite can be so shallow minded? What has eating with our fingers got to do with development? The mere thought is too ridiculous to be taken even as a joke!  |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 09, 2012 |
obo_man: Why is it dumbof course, Russia is better than most part of Africa. That's no argument. But you do need to listen to your claim to notice how dumb it sounds. To be sure, Africa held most comfortable conditions for life to thrive, as the first homo sapiens (read, intelligent men) probably evolved first in Africa. In addition, the continent's tropical seasons, which you deemed accursed  , have always been most suitable for rich vegetation, plant and animal life. Isn't that more and regular food? Shouldn't that help us grow?Scientists say that necessity is the mother of invention. Do you claim that there has never been need for inventions in Africa, based on necessity. Am pretty sure it's quite apparent that every thing that happened in Europe could have happened in other parts of the world, if the right people had been there at the right time, or if people had access to the knowledge spread wide across western lands. If you are looking for why "colder" countries happen to have developed so much, then examine their proximity to each other. If modern scientific adventures started in Rome, or Istanbul or London (17-18th century), then it is not unexpected to find that the most active participants lie not more than a certain fixed number of miles from each other. . . . .and these are the "developed" countries of today. America? It's an extension of London, Rome or Setubal. Australia? U know too well. In my opinion, it was only natural for a French Ampere to advance knowledge of Electromagnetism because a Danish Oersted discovered something and made it widely available such that it got to France. If Africa were in the scheme of things those times, it's only natural to expect that at least a couple of them would have attempted to contribute. Please refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Wilhelm_Amo who was "in the scheme of things" at its early stages. Okay, so why aren't we advancing now that we are seemingly involved in the system? Answer: inadequacy. Africans are inadequately equipped and have been left far behind. African Americans are doing their part, and some have indeed made far-reaching contributions not only in the field of science, but also literature, government, etc. However, there is a very strong reason to believe most of their attempts at contribution are rooted in the desire to correct popular thinking about their so-called lack of intelligence. No wonder African American literature is still tied to liberation and escape. As long as that continues to be, it'll take a while to adjust. But the point is to continue trying. However, to put down a claim that development is influenced by climate is more like saying how tall one grows is influenced by the distance of the moon from the sun every 30 days! Ludicrous to say the least 1 Like |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by gegee(m): 1:39pm On May 09, 2012 |
other people get sense pass africans simple and short |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 1:55pm On May 09, 2012 |
gegee: other people get sense pass africans simple and short  |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by putro(m): 2:44pm On May 09, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin:.O wo, otun dun bobo yen gan.Don't mind him let him continue with the blame game on problem we caused for ourselves and one reason we will never leave our backward state. African will never learn we are only good at pointing fingers. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Arosa(m): 3:46pm On May 09, 2012 |
pssword: Quite a lot of posters here have covered, what I think, are the main reasons for our current state of comatose. It is impossible to erase centuries of slave trade, colonisation and forcing together diverse groups for divide and conquer tactics for economic exploitation in a lifetime. Many of our current leaders come from that environment, born pre-1960 and have continued to perpetuate this "culture" of economic slave trade, colonisation and divide and conquer because it is what they understand. I also believe that religion is tool used by our leaders to enforce this division. So to that extent we as a country are also culpable. I see that many people are have put Ghana as an example of progress. But are they really that ahead of Nigeria. I think not. Jerry Rawlings might have taken, quite drastic steps to say the least, to mitigate against the effects colonisation but this has not stopped an over-reliance on all things foreign and UN aid - so there are not a very good an example really because they still suffer that inferiority complex brought about by centuries of colonisation. I agree with you completely on this post. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by nduchucks: 4:37pm On May 09, 2012 |
Beaf: Low self esteem ke? I don't have time for psychobabble abeg. Your culture and traditions are the main culprits here and without a major re-engineering, the status quo will remain. The truth is bitter I know, but it remains the truth. It is the same cultural and traditional values which have rendered you unable to constructively criticize GEJ under any condition and make you run around defending him blindly. Until you are freed from the "bush", I'm afraid you will remain backward. Try to travel around some African countries and go where people actually live, away from the western style hotels, talk to them, and the reason for your backwardness will become apparent. In fact go to your own village and look around you and again, you'll discover that your culture and traditions are the worst things you've got. Most of your practices need to be jettisoned. olodo. cold: Have chopsticks now become fingers? mumu |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by VALIDATOR: 5:11pm On May 09, 2012 |
For us to really understand why Africa is backward, we may need to go back in time.Gradually we keep going until we reach a point when Africa was like other parts of the world. IMO That time was the 3rd Millenium BC. We should then start asking "What went wrong from then?" Do Nls agree with this scientific method? |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by alienYOUTH(m): 5:30pm On May 09, 2012 |
This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. Biblically, it was d "Tower of Babel" saga that started d whole "migration to other parts of d world" thingy. Its my belief that d smart ones were d adventurous who left to populate d ends of d earth, while d selfish & greedy stayed back. To cut short d long tale; i believe there's something about our black skin that bleeds thru & corrupts our hearts and minds. We r naturally diabolical, myopic, selfish & take no responsibility for our actions, whilst our lighter skinned fellows r d exact opposite...or how else will u explain how they built d Titanic in 1912, whilst 100yrs later d whole african nation is yet to come up with a bicycle built from scratch. When Isaac Newton sat under d proverbial apple tree contemplating all wat not & d fruit dropped on his head, that very day gravity was discovered. i hate to think of how many coconuts fell on my fellow African man's head without more result than a slight concussion & percieved curse from d gods. 1 Like |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Arosa(m): 5:38pm On May 09, 2012 |
VALIDATOR: For us to really understand why Africa is backward, we may need to go back in time.Gradually we keep going until we reach a point when Africa was like other parts of the world. IMO That time was the 3rd Millenium BC. We should then start asking "What went wrong from then?" Do Nls agree with this scientific method? I agree with your method, So tell us what you think went wrong. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Arosa(m): 5:49pm On May 09, 2012 |
The reason why Africans are the most underdeveloped in the world today is because we are the most heterogeneous people on the planet. Africa needs to move towards being a more homogeneous society. This is what I wrote two years ago, maybe it's relevant here as well.  |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by OzReal(m): 5:53pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. Gbam! Your are a true son of your father!lol |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 7:34pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. The first thing required to return Africa to its former state of glory - which of course you're too brainwashed, misedsucated and ignorant to appreciate, is to TRAIN poeple like you in TRUE African history. Something you know ZERO about. A brief synopsis: All Black Africa was known as 'Ethiopia' in the ancient world. Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says: "Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws." Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62. (Do you know what that means? It means that whites and Asians were running around in the bush and caves, killing each other like wild animals, until black Africans developed the concept of laws, and exported same, leading to a civilized global society.) The opinion of the ancient writers on the Egyptians is more or less summed up by French Egyptologist Gaston Maspero in The Dawn of Civilization (1894), when he says, "By the almost unanimous testimony of ancient historians, they [the Egyptians] belong to an African race which first settled in Ethiopia on the Middle Nile: following the course of the river they gradually reached the sea." The German scholar, Eugen Georg, in his book The Adventure of Mankind (1931) p. 121, tells us about the ". . . world-wide dominance of Ethiopian representatives of the black race. They were supreme in Africa and Asia. In upper Egypt and India they erected mighty religious centers and mastered a perfect technique in the molding of bronze --- and they even infiltrated through Southern Europe for a thousand years." Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. "They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." ... Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added] (1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3) Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, INVENTED WRITING, and given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2). "Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted.'' DID YOU READ THAT? AFRICANS - BLACK AFRICANS - INVENTED WRITING. Where would the world be today without the written word? Here is the Papyrus of Maherperi, dated to 1,400 BC  There is no white or Asian written document that is even within 600 years of this document you're looking at above. Maiherpri was buried in a Royal Tomb in the Valley of the Kings, the royal necropolis. The mummy was unwrapped in March 1901, revealing a very dark skin with woolly hair. In Maiherperi's tomb, a papyrus was found depicting him with black skin. The papyrus in question was the Egyptian Book of the Dead. [img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/07/nubian-mummy.jpg[/img] See, BLACK AFRICA, gave the world civilization. Black Africans INVENTED MATHEMATICS, WRITING, ARCHITECTURE, MEDICINE, RELIGION, ALCHEMY, MINING, AND THE SCIENCES. I KNOW... THEY NEVER TAUGHT YOU any OF THIS IN YOUR COLONIAL curriculum infested ''schools''. But the COLONIALISTS KNEW that Africans civilized them. Here's an excerpt from the words of Lady Flora Shaw, wife of Lord Lugard,. British Gov General of colonial Nigeria: Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first publish 100 years ago showing the detail and descriptive power, and the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that: "When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come." "The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the.. most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race." Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, Black Classic Press (1996)  When visiting Egypt today, this is what we see of The Sphinx of Giza.  This is what Vivant Denon saw in 1798 before the Sphinx was defaced. THAT STATUE IS DATED TO 3,600 BC The mathematical precision, engineering genius, and technical sophistication required to erect it came from the minds and intellect of black Africans. At this time, whites lived in caves in the caucasus mountains, and for thousands of years, were widely derided as the most stupid and backward of all the races, as shown in this Egyptian Mural of the Races found in the tomb of Rameses I in Biban-el-Moluk, Egypt. The two blacks of course represent first the Egyptian, and then continental Africans. The white man is last on the mural, depicting his status as the most backward of all races.  The English historian, Wallis Budge, visited the tomb and wrote: "According to the legend...they (the Ancient Egyptians) wished to represent the inhabitants of Egypt and those of foreign lands. Thus we have before our eyes the image of the various races of man known to the Egyptians... the last one is what we call flesh-colored, a white skin of the most delicate shade, a nose straight or slightly arched, blue eyes, blond or reddish beard, tall stature and very slender, clad in a hairy ox-skin, a veritable savage... he is called Tamhou.... I certainly did not expect, on arriving at Biban-el-Moluk, to find sculptures that could serve as vignettes of the history of the primitive Europeans, if ever one has the courage to attempt it. Nevertheless, there is something flattering and consoling in seeing them, since they make us appreciate the progress we have subsequently achieved." IS IT THIS SAME RACE OF BLACKS WHO LED THE WORLD IN MYRIAD INVENTIONS, FROM MATHEMATICS TO ALGEBRA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, that you miseducated, ignorant, colonised blockheads, fresh from colonial brainwashing institutes you call schools, have the nerve to insult?? Why, because over the last 500 years, a mere drop in the ocean of time and civilization, our fortunes dropped?? HOW DARE YOU?? I repeat: HOW DARE YOU ? |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Rossikk(m): 9:09pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. The first thing required to return Africa to its former state of glory - which of course you're too brainwashed, misedsucated and ignorant to appreciate, is to TRAIN poeple like you in TRUE African history. Something you know ZERO about. A brief synopsis: All Black Africa was known as 'Ethiopia' in the ancient world. Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says: "Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws." Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62. The opinion of the ancient writers on the Egyptians is more or less summed up by French Egyptologist Gaston Maspero The Dawn of Civilization (1894), when he says, "By the almost unanimous testimony of ancient historians, they [the Egyptians] belong to an African race which first settled in Ethiopia on the Middle Nile: following the course of the river they gradually reached the sea." The German scholar, Eugen Georg, in his book The Adventure of Mankind (1931) p. 121, tells us about the ". . . world-wide dominance of Ethiopian representatives of the black race. They were supreme in Africa and Asia. In upper Egypt and India they erected mighty religious centers and mastered a perfect technique in the molding of bronze --- and they even infiltrated through Southern Europe for a thousand years." Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. "They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." ... Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added] (1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3) Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2). "Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted.'' DID YOU READ THAT? AFRICANS - BLACK AFRICANS - INVENTED WRITING. Here is the Papyrus of Maherperi, dated to 1,400 BC Maiherpri was buried in a Royal Tomb in the Valley of the Kings, the royal necropolis. The mummy was unwrapped in March 1901, revealing a very dark skin with woolly hair. In Maiherperi's tomb, a papyrus was found depicting him with black skin. The papyrus in question was the Egyptian Book of the Dead. There is no white or Asian written document that is even within 600 years of this document you're looking at above. Maiherpri Mummy [img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/07/nubian-mummy.jpg[/img] See, BLACK AFRICA, gave the world civilization. Black Africans INVENTED MATHEMATICS, WRITING, ARCHITECTURE, MEDICINE, RELIGION, ALCHEMY, MINING, AND THE SCIENCES. I KNOW... THEY NEVER TAUGHT YOU any OF THIS IN YOUR COLONIAL curriculum infested ''schools''. But the COLONIALISTS KNEW that Africans civilized them. Here's an excerpt from the words of Lady Flora Shaw, wife of Lord Lugard,. British Gov General of colonial Nigeria: Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first publish 100 years ago showing the detail and descriptive power, and the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that: "When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come." "The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the.. most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race." Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, Black Classic Press (1996) When visiting Egypt today, this is what we see of The Sphinx of Giza. This is what Vivant Denon saw in 1798 before the Sphinx was defaced. THAT STATUE IS DATED TO 3,600 BC The mathematical precision, engineering genius, and technical sophistication to erect it came from the minds of and intellect of black Africans. At this time, whites lived in caves in the caucasus mountains, and for thousands of years, were widely derided as the most stupid and backward of all the races. http://members.multimania.co.uk/jrmoore1958/mural_of_races.jpg Budge uses the term Libyan, but Champollion the Younger, in his 13th letter to his brother, remarking (about certain bas-reliefs he had seen in various tombs), what I refer to as the 'murals of the races' : "According to the legend...they (the Ancient Egyptians) wished to represent the inhabitants of Egypt and those of foreign lands. Thus we have before our eyes the image of the various races of man known to the Egyptians... the last one is what we call flesh-colored, a white skin of the most delicate shade, a nose straight or slightly arched, blue eyes, blond or reddish beard, tall stature and very slender, clad in a hairy ox-skin, a veritable savage... he is called Tamhou.... I certainly did not expect, on arriving at Biban-el-Moluk, to find sculptures that could serve as vignettes of the history of the primitive Europeans, if ever one has the courage to attempt it. Nevertheless, there is something flattering and consoling in seeing them, since they make us appreciate the progress we have subsequently achieved." IS IT THIS SAME RACE OF BLACKS WHO LED THE WORLD IN MYRIAD INVENTIONS, FROM MATHEMATICS TO ALGEBRA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, that you miseducated, ignorant, colonised blockheads, fresh from colonial brainwashing institutes you call schools, have the nerve to insult?? Why, because over the last 500 years, a mere drop in the ocean of time and civilization, our fortunes dropped?? HOW DARE YOU?? |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 9:11pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist.And if you indeed think gravity was discovered by Newton the day a proverbial apple fruit fell on his head, then you are not as good as those ancestors of yours! |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 9:18pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. The first thing required to return Africa to its former state of glory - which of course you're too brainwashed, misedsucated and ignorant to appreciate, is to TRAIN poeple like you in TRUE African history. Something you know ZERO about. A brief synopsis: All Black Africa was known as 'Ethiopia' in the ancient world. Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says: "Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws." Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62. (Do you know what this means? It means that whites and Asians were running around like animals, killing each other at will, until black Africans invented the concept of laws, and exported same to the world) The opinion of the ancient writers on the Egyptians is more or less summed up by French Egyptologist Gaston Maspero The Dawn of Civilization (1894), when he says, "By the almost unanimous testimony of ancient historians, they [the Egyptians] belong to an African race which first settled in Ethiopia on the Middle Nile: following the course of the river they gradually reached the sea." The German scholar, Eugen Georg, in his book The Adventure of Mankind (1931) p. 121, tells us about the ". . . world-wide dominance of Ethiopian representatives of the black race. They were supreme in Africa and Asia. In upper Egypt and India they erected mighty religious centers and mastered a perfect technique in the molding of bronze --- and they even infiltrated through Southern Europe for a thousand years." Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. "They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." ... Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added] (1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3) Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2). "Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted.'' DID YOU READ THAT? AFRICANS - BLACK AFRICANS - INVENTED WRITING. Where would the world be without the written word? Here is the Papyrus of Maherperi, dated to 1,400 BC Maiherpri was buried in a Royal Tomb in the Valley of the Kings, the royal necropolis. The mummy was unwrapped in March 1901, revealing a very dark skin with woolly hair. In Maiherperi's tomb, a papyrus was found depicting him with black skin. The papyrus in question was the Egyptian Book of the Dead. There is no white or Asian written document that is even within 600 years of this document you're looking at above. Maiherpri Mummy [img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/07/nubian-mummy.jpg[/img] See, BLACK AFRICA, gave the world civilization. Black Africans INVENTED MATHEMATICS, WRITING, ARCHITECTURE, MEDICINE, RELIGION, ALCHEMY, MINING, AND THE SCIENCES. I KNOW... THEY NEVER TAUGHT YOU any OF THIS IN YOUR COLONIAL curriculum infested ''schools''. But the COLONIALISTS KNEW that Africans civilized them. Here's an excerpt from the words of Lady Flora Shaw, wife of Lord Lugard,. British Gov General of colonial Nigeria: Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first publish 100 years ago showing the detail and descriptive power, and the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that: "When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come." "The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the.. most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race." Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, Black Classic Press (1996) When visiting Egypt today, this is what we see of The Sphinx of Giza. This is what Vivant Denon saw in 1798 before the Sphinx was defaced. THAT STATUE IS DATED TO 3,600 BC The mathematical precision, engineering genius, and technical sophistication to erect it came from the minds of and intellect of black Africans. At this time, whites lived in caves in the caucasus mountains, and for thousands of years, were widely derided as the most stupid and backward of all the races, as shown by this Mural of the Races found in the tomb of Rameses I. Here, the two blacks represent Egyptians and other Africans. The white is last, depicting their ancient status as the most backward of all races: English historian Wallis Budge , who visited the site of the mural in Egypt wrote: "According to the legend...they (the Ancient Egyptians) wished to represent the inhabitants of Egypt and those of foreign lands. Thus we have before our eyes the image of the various races of man known to the Egyptians... the last one is what we call flesh-colored, a white skin of the most delicate shade, a nose straight or slightly arched, blue eyes, blond or reddish beard, tall stature and very slender, clad in a hairy ox-skin, a veritable savage... he is called Tamhou.... I certainly did not expect, on arriving at Biban-el-Moluk, to find sculptures that could serve as vignettes of the history of the primitive Europeans, if ever one has the courage to attempt it. Nevertheless, there is something flattering and consoling in seeing them, since they make us appreciate the progress we have subsequently achieved." IS IT THIS SAME RACE OF BLACKS WHO LED THE WORLD IN MYRIAD INVENTIONS, FROM MATHEMATICS TO ALGEBRA FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, that you miseducated, ignorant, colonised blockheads, fresh from colonial brainwashing institutes you call schools, have the nerve to insult?? Why, because over the last 500 years, a mere drop in the ocean of time and civilization, our fortunes dropped?? HOW DARE YOU?? HOW DARE YOU |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by afinic001(m): 9:51pm On May 09, 2012 |
Someone once said that Africa is a cursed land. He made some biblical references to Ham(a son of Noah who saw his father's unclothedness). He was of the opinion that Noah cursed his son Ham who happened to be the progenitor of the African race. He firmly believes that Ham's curse was automatically passed to his descendants(Africans) and that is the root cause of our backwardness. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by ektbear: 10:07pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. lmao  |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by ektbear: 10:09pm On May 09, 2012 |
I personally don't think it is worth too much time worrying about this stuff. Let's try to make the present and future better, rather than dwelling on mistakes of the past. It isn't as if the "game" is over yet. Basically, work so that 300-500 years from now, our descendants will bless us for our vision rather than curse us. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by afinic001(m): 10:30pm On May 09, 2012 |
ekt_bear: I personally don't think it is worth too much time worrying about this stuff. We have to 'how and where' we got it wrong before we can know 'how and where' to get it right. A doctor will not prescribe a drug for a patient without diagnosing the patient's ailment(s) first. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by afinic001(m): 10:34pm On May 09, 2012 |
ekt_bear: I personally don't think it is worth too much time worrying about this stuff. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by ektbear: 10:47pm On May 09, 2012 |
But for the most part, the path forward is fairly clear...it doesn't require massive amounts of thinking about the mistakes your ancestors made 100, 500 or 1000 year ago for you to decide what the best strategy going forward is. Moreover, there is a danger in that spending too much time contemplating the mistakes of the past will prevent you from seizing the opportunities of the present... |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 11:46pm On May 09, 2012 |
alienYOUTH: This particular question has always intrigued me...why is "Africa the dark continent?". Correct me if i'm wrong, but it has been proven that life originated from Africa, so d argument about our plight being imposed on us by colonialism and western civilization need not even exist. The first thing required to return Africa to its former state of glory - which of course you're too brainwashed, misedsucated and ignorant to appreciate, is to TRAIN poeple like you in TRUE African history. Something you know ZERO about. A brief synopsis: All Black Africa was known as 'Ethiopia' in the ancient world. Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says: "Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws." Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62. The opinion of the ancient writers on the Egyptians is more or less summed up by French Egyptologist Gaston Maspero The Dawn of Civilization (1894), when he says, "By the almost unanimous testimony of ancient historians, they [the Egyptians] belong to an African race which first settled in Ethiopia on the Middle Nile: following the course of the river they gradually reached the sea." The German scholar, Eugen Georg, in his book The Adventure of Mankind (1931) p. 121, tells us about the ". . . world-wide dominance of Ethiopian representatives of the black race. They were supreme in Africa and Asia. In upper Egypt and India they erected mighty religious centers and mastered a perfect technique in the molding of bronze --- and they even infiltrated through Southern Europe for a thousand years." Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. "They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." ... Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization. [emphasis added] (1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3) Diodorus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were the first of all men created by the gods and were the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and given the Egyptians their religion and culture. (3.3.2). "Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted.'' DID YOU READ THAT? AFRICANS - BLACK AFRICANS - INVENTED WRITING. Here is the Papyrus of Maherperi, dated to 1,400 BC Maiherpri was buried in a Royal Tomb in the Valley of the Kings, the royal necropolis. The mummy was unwrapped in March 1901, revealing a very dark skin with woolly hair. In Maiherperi's tomb, a papyrus was found depicting him with black skin. The papyrus in question was the Egyptian Book of the Dead. There is no white or Asian written document that is even within 600 years of this document you're looking at above. Maiherpri Mummy [img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/07/nubian-mummy.jpg[/img] See, BLACK AFRICA, gave the world civilization. Black Africans INVENTED MATHEMATICS, WRITING, ARCHITECTURE, MEDICINE, RELIGION, ALCHEMY, MINING, AND THE SCIENCES. I KNOW... THEY NEVER TAUGHT YOU any OF THIS IN YOUR COLONIAL curriculum infested ''schools''. But the COLONIALISTS KNEW that Africans civilized them. Here's an excerpt from the words of Lady Flora Shaw, wife of Lord Lugard,. British Gov General of colonial Nigeria: Flora Shaw's (alias Lady Flora Lugard) book is an extraordinary look at the history of Africa, which she gathered from countless sources, and one would imagine a great deal of it came from the British Library and from the archives of The Times of London, for whom she had for many years been the Foreign Political Correspondent. She had always been known to be an intensive researcher into her subject matter, and one wonders at the months and probably years she put into this undertaking, which became the reference work for so many future books on Africa. This book was first publish 100 years ago showing the detail and descriptive power, and the greatness that Africa once was. Lady Lugard argues that: "When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt. For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come." "The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the.. most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than that at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race." Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, Black Classic Press (1996) |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 11:57pm On May 09, 2012 |
^^ You don tire? 1 Like |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by london2lasgidi(m): 12:00am On May 10, 2012 |
^^Get a life, prick. |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by Nobody: 12:02am On May 10, 2012 |
london2lasgidi: ^^Get a life, prick. How come? Na me siddon dey write that long thing for up yonder? |
| Re: Theories To Explain The Backward State Of Africa by logic101: 12:22am On May 10, 2012 |
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