Logic Mind: ^^^^^^^^^^^is that why fell for the 2000 yr old scam of a middle easter hippie murdered by his own people?

shit. englis is not my mother tongue, ok?

mimibets: Just because a part is false doesn't make the whole false. Not everyone that comes in the name of God is of God.

italo: @ logicboy, sometimes I feel sorry for you. The kind of confusion that must be going on in your head. i wish you had the kind of certainty that i have. Cheers

logicboy:

Sorry, if the whole claims to be wholly true, then a part should not be false.


Many of God's first prophets in the bible were scandalous. Polygamy, incest, murder.

mimibets: Have u ever thought about the part not being truly part of the whole but infiltrates the whole to give it a black name? The bible says in the last days,false prophet will arise for the sole purpose of leading men astray. Why do u look to the wrong for inspiration?in the same bible there were men of faith,men that lived lives worthy of emulate,why don't u look to those?

logicboy:


If the bible is not true, then the christian God is a fake.

If the christian God's first prophets eg Abraham (incest with Sara), Moses (genocide of midianites), Solomon (polygamy in excess), and David (adultery) then God is a fake

mimibets: Abraham marrying sarah,what was the world's population at the time? Nearly everyone was related.About the rest,if u read lower,they were reprimanded by GOD and were remorseful and forgiven.The bible is the one book that has stood the test of time,the most read book.There will surely be conspiracy theories but if u realize wat this theories are for u'll hold on fast to the promises of God.At this time when the world is falling apart,it gives me strength to know that i have a greater force that is on my side.

mimibets: Many laws in the bible were enforced at the time that particular book was written,some laws of the old testament were not applicable in the new testament,same way some laws aren't applicable now. Lot of people ask why there is so much suffering in the world when there is God,there are may reasons for this.One reason is that God is not the ruler of this world,He might have created it but the devil rules the world,how would he have offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he did not own them? Secondly,the devil has deceived people and turned them from God.People are aware of God's existence but still don't acknowledge Him,He won't force u coz He gives us free will.A barber when asked why God does not do anything about suffering likened it to people walking about with bushy hair even when he declared free hair cuts,not because they don't know the way to his shop but because they have refused to have a hair cut.Same way people die from curable diseases when they could have reached out to a knowledgable person or a doctor.

mimibets: A barber when asked why God does not do anything about suffering likened it to people walking about with bushy hair even when he declared free hair cuts,not because they don't know the way to his shop but because they have refused to have a hair cut..

mimibets: Same way people die from curable diseases when they could have reached out to a knowledgable person or a doctor.

mimibets: U can't disprove God,His is not a scientific hypothesis.My life speaks of His existence.In as much as i'll love to continue this discussion,i have to go coz i have an assessment tomorrow.

mimibets: Many laws in the bible were enforced at the time that particular book was written,some laws of the old testament were not applicable in the new testament,same way some laws aren't applicable now. Lot of people ask why there is so much suffering in the world when there is God,there are may reasons for this.One reason is that God is not the ruler of this world,He might have created it but the devil rules the world,how would he have offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if he did not own them? Secondly,the devil has deceived people and turned them from God.People are aware of God's existence but still don't acknowledge Him,He won't force u coz He gives us free will.A barber when asked why God does not do anything about suffering likened it to people walking about with bushy hair even when he declared free hair cuts,not because they don't know the way to his shop but because they have refused to have a hair cut.Same way people die from curable diseases when they could have reached out to a knowledgable person or a doctor.

FXKing2012: This is really pathetic, u are so so confused and in constant search for the "truth". Well, Jesus is the only way and the earlier u accept this the better for u. JESUS LOVES YOU!

logicboy:


Nah, it wont move atheists to believe in God. I'm still an atheist.


Every atheist is an agnostic in a sense that you cant disprove God's existence in the same way you cant disprove the boogeyman 100%

logicboy:


Nah, it wont move atheists to believe in God. I'm still an atheist.


Every atheist is an agnostic in a sense that you cant disprove God's existence in the same way you cant disprove the boogeyman 100%

ghostofsparta: .

No you are wrong...agnosticism is completely far fin atheism

Martian:

Wow!! I haven't seen hollywood get anybody this excited since Deepsight got some spiritual enlightenment from Avatar. Now, dear LogicBoy sees another hollywood epic and is now leaning towards the agnostic side. Calm down, it's just great CGI, the bible, erich von daniken and some hollywood screenwriters.

If you grew up in the 1970s, you may have a dim memory of “Chariots of the Gods,” an international best seller by Erich von Däniken full of dubious speculation about extraterrestrial influences on ancient earthling civilizations. The book, a kind of space age “Da Vinci Code,” inspired a goofy German documentary and, if memory serves, some earnest, anxious debates among sixth-grade protogeeks who shall remain nameless.
http://movies.nytimes.com/2012/06/08/movies/prometheus-by-ridley-scott-with-noomi-rapace.html

Mr Von Daniken was one of the subjects of an interesting discussion a few months ago. Don't get too excited.

Deep Sight:
Take me to your leader

Martian:


F#cker has an hangover.

logicboy01:


Wrong! Jesus loves JEWS!

I Came for the lost sheep of isreal

FXKing2012:

There we go again. . .an atheist quoting the Bible as if he has an iota of understanding of its content. Mtchew!

logicboy01:



You must be joking.

ghostofsparta:

Okay let's say I might be wrong...pls clarify me regarding how atheism is synonymous with agnostism.

Concerning the topic

First of all...

Confessing that you are now drifting towards agnosticsm...which is basically means one that doesn't disbelieve nor believes.....shows that you weren't even an atheist from the on start....you just did more of logical thinking like me.....even I who is neo-paganic henotheist deist is even more atheistic than you are....since my atheism is towards the 2 of the 3 abrahamic religions affecting our thinking here in the land of the non-white skin. I didn't want to say Africa...because they gave it to us...I don't want to use Nigeria or Black skin because they made us accept it....I am firstly de-conditioning myself from mental slavery. Point is...just like Pagan9ja keep saying....we all need to first of all redefine our identity before you or me should even start debating about the meaning of theism or differences between gnosticsm, agnosticsm and atheism...because they all are oyinbo people concept...

@topic

I tried to finish Erich Von Daniken's book titled 'Gold of The Gods'. Thing is this writer proffered brilliant speculations as to the origin of hunanoid citing various buried evidence of alien contact on earth...but Daniken was and is still considered 'fringe' among mainstream scientific thoughts. I am bewildered as to why movie makers accepted Ridley Scott's to manifest this so regarded 'fringe' author inspired idea to a movie. Na wa o!

logicboy01:


Sharap there!

Can you explain what "lost sheep of isreal" with reference to the Canaanite woman in a way that isnt racist?

FXKing2012:

Seriously, u are the lost sheep who needs to find his way to the true God. Until u admit that u dont have the spiritual understanding to interpret the Bible, u will always wallow in ignorance and dwell in darkness.

logicboy01:


Lol....see this guy. Answer the question before you start preaching

FXKing2012:

You have to first admit u have no spiritual standing to interpret the Bible b4 I could even start to help your understanding.

logicboy01:


Did you need spiritual standing to interpret the Quran to know that it is not the way to heaven?

FXKing2012:

Seriously, u are the lost sheep who needs to find his way to the true God. Until u admit that u dont have the spiritual understanding to interpret the Bible, u will always wallow in ignorance and dwell in darkness.