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go on with wat u Believe(no compulsion is religion). For someone who can prove from the quran that the reason all existence was created was for the love God has for muhammad, what else can't u prove from the quran? I have given relevant verses, it's up to those who use their senses critically to examine them and reach a conclusion. I will just go on and give my second point.

so mr shia, as u can see; at the very foudation of what islam(submission to God) is, and represented by the shahadah-the shia and sunni are not at all in islam and are not muslims(submitters to Gods will). I wonder if the prophet ever uttered d shahadah with his name in it? Won't dat sound stupid?! him telling himself or God that he is a messenger of God? Just a thot!

2) chapter 72, Verse eighteen("72:18", tells the true believers never to call upon or invoke names other than God's in places of worship(masjids). Why do u defy dis and invoke muhammad's name alongside God's if u were not worshipping/idolizing muhammad? In Tashahood u invoke muhammad,abraham and others. In ur azaan(call to salaat) u scream out muhammad's name 5 times a day to the world, while accusing d christians of worshipping jesus.the very same thing u are guilty of. Maybe God forgot to tell us muhammad may be invoked With Him. U have no idea wat idol worship means as far as God or quran is concerned. U may look up the link i gave ealier if u care to know. "Absolutely, the religion shall be devoted to GOD ALONE"(39:3). Yes! Look at it again. Dat's wat d quran dictates to us, It's not a mistake. So lagoshia! Do u still think u have not made muhammad into an idol? Believe me, this is just a little glimpse of how satan used hadith to dupe the muslims. Today, u guys do nothing according to quran.from sallaat(contact prayer), sayawm(fasting), hajj(pilgrimage), zakat(due alms). In fact, everything is all just wrong. Stonning some mysterious pillar as a sybolic sign for rejecting satan(utter nonesense). Killing people termed as murtaad(apostate), stonning married adulterers to death(biblical origin). Forcing women to cover their hair. Preventing women from praying to God during their natural(God's design) menstruation. Cutting-off the theives hand(wonder wat kind of peaceful religion dat is? Quran never says cut-off).The list is endless.

Wish i got d energy to continue. I started dis thread to show u guys how satan cleverly duped muslims into following the nonesense called hadith/sunna. D videos are there. Whoever cares ,let him examine d evidence. Just because a book is said to be divine and originates frm God doesn't make it such. If that were the case, people of other faiths are correct wen they all claim their scriptures are frm God(rig veda,yujur veda,zend avesta,book of mormons etc). The quran gives clear evidence of how to distinguish human fabrications/conjecture from something of a divine origin.

whoever cares, may verify the evidence built into the quran by it's author, as a sign that the book is of divine source.

www.miracleof19.org

www.submission.org

www.masjidtucson.org

you are yet to prove to me that i worship Muhammad (sa) as an "idol" or as a "god".

all the nonsense you are saying is just based on your rantings and shortsightedness to discredit others and promote the trivial things you have institutionalized into a sect just as wahhabis do.

tell me how i worship Muhammad (sa).

usisky: ^^^
go on with wat u Believe(no compulsion is religion). For someone who can prove from the quran that the reason all existence was created was for the love God has for muhammad, what else can't u prove from the quran? I have given relevant verses, it's up to those who use their senses critically to examine them and reach a conclusion. I will just go on and give my second point.

so mr shia, as u can see; at the very foudation of what islam(submission to God) is, and represented by the shahadah-the shia and sunni are not at all in islam and are not muslims(submitters to Gods will). I wonder if the prophet ever uttered d shahadah with his name in it? Won't dat sound stupid?! him telling himself or God that he is a messenger of God? Just a thot!

2) chapter 72, Verse eighteen(72:18), tells the true believers never to call upon or invoke names other than God's in places of worship(masjids). Why do u defy dis and invoke muhammad's name alongside God's if u were not worshipping/idolizing muhammad? In Tashahood u invoke muhammad,abraham and others. In ur azaan(call to salaat) u scream out muhammad's name 5 times a day to the world, while accusing d christians of worshipping jesus.the very same thing u are guilty of. Maybe God forgot to tell us muhammad may be invoked With Him. U have no idea wat idol worship means as far as God or quran is concerned. U may look up the link i gave ealier if u care to know. "Absolutely, the religion shall be devoted to GOD ALONE"(39:3). Yes! Look at it again. Dat's wat d quran dictates to us, It's not a mistake. So lagoshia! Do u still think u have not made muhammad into an idol? Believe me, this is just a little glimpse of how satan used hadith to dupe the muslims. Today, u guys do nothing according to quran.from sallaat(contact prayer), sayawm(fasting), hajj(pilgrimage), zakat(due alms). In fact, everything is all just wrong. Stonning some mysterious pillar as a sybolic sign for rejecting satan(utter nonesense). Killing people termed as murtaad(apostate), stonning married adulterers to death(biblical origin). Forcing women to cover their hair. Preventing women from praying to God during their natural(God's design) menstruation. Cutting-off the theives hand(wonder wat kind of peaceful religion dat is? Quran never says cut-off).The list is endless.

see i am not a kid here.i would not tell you it is mentioned in hadith how to do adhan or recite the testimony of faith.if i am to argue with you i'd use the Quran only since that is your motto.

in the Quran,Muhammad (sa) is called a prophet and messenger of God.whether i shout that in adhan,in the sky or in the ocean,does not mean Muhammad (sa) has become God.if that makes me become an idolater then idolatry is in the Quran because the Quran calls Muhammad (sa) the messenger of Allah (swt).and if you are trying to be silly by talking how placing Muhammad's (sa) name after God's,and that amount to "invoking" Muhammad (sa) as you alleged,then we see that in the Quran where Muhammad (sa) is called "messenger of Allah" or "Rasulullah",that word "messenger" appears after God's name.

you are just trying to be overly silly to justify your sillieness.

You lot have a lot in common.

maclatunji: You lot have a lot in common.

so to who am i to report Mr.Moderator for provocation and mockery?

now Mr.Moderator after losing his ban battles and debates,is resorting to name calling and mockery.

@Tbaba

please refute d arguments in d vids. U may choose to respond piecemeal as u watch. Pls!

usisky: @Tbaba

please refute d arguments in d vids. U may choose to respond piecemeal as u watch. Pls!

From the very first quote, the translation and interpretation is wrong... It is a waste of time... Already twisting translations to suit agenda...

How can you understand the Quran without a proper understanding of classical Arabic and the context of revelation?, It is impossible...

Your belief is so flawed, it is ridiculous.... You are misguided and terribly so...

I just pray gullible muslims do not get confused by these posts and that you get guided.

Interesting no wonder there r extremist

Here is light, that is if the web terrorists would let it shine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SScUw9L0TZc

^^^What!!!