Christians generally define marriage as a holy institution between a man and a woman. Anything apart from that is not a marriage. They believe that marriage is holy and should not be tainted with perverse relationships eg (incest, polygamy, adultery, wife battery etc)

However, this view on marriage has certain problems which I will address in this thread;


1) Contradiction with polygamy in the bible; many of the prophets or men of God in the bible were polygamous in the bible. The most common were Abraham (3 wives), Solomon (700 wives) and David (18 wives). There are about 40 polygamists in the bible. http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/

2) Contradiction with adultery in the bible; many men of God in the bible were adulterous in the sense of concubinage. Gideon, David and Solomon all had concubines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage#In_the_Bible

3) Contradiction with incest in the bible; Abraham's main wife (Sarah) was his half sister.


4) Jesus himself never became fruitful and multiplied. Jesus never got married or officiated a wedding.


5) Hermaphrodites; Should a hermaphrodite get married to a man or woman, it is gay sex both ways and can not be avoided. Hermphrodites are both men and women technically and so by default, they are always going to be gay no matter what sex they choose to get married to. Hermaphrodites' parents can choose at an early age what sex they want to be but it doesnt mean that may not feel trapped in the wrong sex later on.


6) Christian divorce rates; Christians (in USA) have a higher divorce rate than atheists.http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-03-14-divorce-christians_N.htm

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With all these contradictions and problems, what moral standing does christianity have to claim that they are for the sanctity of marriage?

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Your method of debunking is fraudulent. Christians base their sanctity of marriage not on the actions of people (who we already know tend to fall short particularly as regards sex). Christians base the sanctity of marriage on what Adam said in Genesis. It is akin to debasing the ideals codified in the legal system based on the fact that it is repeatedly broken. If you are to bring up an argument against the sanctity of marriage you'll have to point out how it is harmful.

Uyi Iredia: Your method of debunking is fraudulent. Christians base their sanctity of marriage not on the actions of people (who we already know tend to fall short particularly as regards sex). Christians base the sanctity of marriage on what Adam said in Genesis. It is akin to debasing the ideals codified in the legal system based on the fact that it is repeatedly broken. If you are to bring up an argument against the sanctity of marriage you'll have to point out how it is harmful.

Thank you for sharing your views. However, I disagree. I used the bible to show that the bible itself does not support the sanctity of marriage doctrine that many christians talk about. The bible supports polygamy and incest. Even Adam engaged in incest. Adam was the parent of Eve since Eve was created (cloned)from his ribs.

logicboy01:


Thank you for sharing your views. However, I disagree. I used the bible to show that the bible itself does not support the sanctity of marriage doctrine that many christians talk about. The bible supports polygamy and incest. Even Adam engaged in incest. Adam was the parent of Eve since Eve was created (cloned)from his ribs.

It does. In fact many of these characters and their descendants suffered on account of the marital mishaps of their fathers. In some cases e.g David & Abraham they were reproved on account of having extra-marital affairs. The Jebusites & the Moabites who the Israelites constantly fought where distant relatives. Same withj the Canaanites (they were distant relatives of the Israelites). Your thread is a classic example of an atheist taking the Bible out of contex. This is done by taking a few verses of the Bible & using it as a means to condemn an aspect (or all) of the Bible and Christianity. Read the Bible in context. A model for marriages was established in Genesis. That model has been abused for centuries for economic, political, aesthetic (or sexual) & religious reasons.

Uyi Iredia:

It does. In fact many of these characters and their descendants suffered on account of the marital mishaps of their fathers. In some cases e.g David & Abraham they were reproved on account of having extra-marital affairs. The Jebusites & the Moabites who the Israelites constantly fought where distant relatives. Same withj the Canaanites (they were distant relatives of the Israelites). Your thread is a classic example of an atheist taking the Bible out of contex. This is done by taking a few verses of the Bible & using it as a means to condemn an aspect (or all) of the Bible and Christianity. Read the Bible in context. A model for marriages was established in Genesis. That model has been abused for centuries for economic, political, aesthetic (or sexual) & religious reasons.

Sorry, the bible has no moral ground for the sanctity of marriage. Adam and Eve = incestous. Abraham and Sarah= incestous.



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Uyi Iredia:

It does. In fact many of these characters and their descendants suffered on account of the marital mishaps of their fathers. In some cases e.g David & Abraham they were reproved on account of having extra-marital affairs. The Jebusites & the Moabites who the Israelites constantly fought where distant relatives. Same withj the Canaanites (they were distant relatives of the Israelites). Your thread is a classic example of an atheist taking the Bible out of contex. This is done by taking a few verses of the Bible & using it as a means to condemn an aspect (or all) of the Bible and Christianity. Read the Bible in context. A model for marriages was established in Genesis. That model has been abused for centuries for economic, political, aesthetic (or sexual) & religious reasons.

Wait, what was Abraham's punishment for polygamy?

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This is Obama's definition of what marriage should be.

OLAADEGBU: This is Obama's definition of what marriage should be.

Who cares? If you dont like gay marriage then dont marry a gay!

logicboy01:

Who cares? If you dont like gay marriage then dont marry a gay!

Learn from the porcupine's marriage.

So atheist now waNna talk about marraige....??

Soon logic boy will say atheist marraiges last better than those of christians......SMH..

What do u guys knw about love and marraige??

Abraham married sarah because there was no option........

Any other girl back then wuld have still been abrahams cousin,niece or a relative....

And u know why....stop acting like u don't know.....

U guys skipped all d principles behind marraige recorded under d new covenant formed thru Jesus and dwealt on the then days when life started.........


What ever happened to scriptures like 1 corinthians 6:9 $ 10......

Fornicators and adulterers wuld nt inherit Gods kingdom.......

Besides present day servants of God are christians ........

We follow Jesus foot steps and his principles......

ijawkid: So atheist now waNna talk about marraige....??

Soon logic boy will say atheist marraiges last better than those of christians......SMH..

What do u guys knw about love and marraige??

Abraham married sarah because there was no option........

Any other girl back then wuld have still been abrahams cousin,niece or a relative....

And u know why....stop acting like u don't know.....

U guys skipped all d principles behind marraige recorded under d new covenant formed thru Jesus and dwealt on the then days when life started.........


What ever happened to scriptures like 1 corinthians 6:9 $ 10......

Fornicators and adulterers wuld nt inherit Gods kingdom.......

Besides present day servants of God are christians ........

We follow Jesus foot steps and his principles......

Your ignorance is really starting to irritate me. What do u mean that atheists cant talk about marriage? Pagans and atheists hava been getting married before christianity was even formed. Use your brain.

Christians divorce at a higher rate in America than anyone. Christianity does not ensure a happy marriage. There are happily married pagans, atheists, Jews etc.


As for Abraham, your God was not smart enough to create enough people to avoid inbreeding. What about the other inbreeders after Abraham?

logicboy01:

Your ignorance is really starting to irritate me. What do u mean that atheists cant talk about marriage? Pagans and atheists hava been getting married before christianity was even formed. Use your brain.

Christians divorce at a higher rate in America than anyone. Christianity does not ensure a happy marriage. There are happily married pagans, atheists, Jews etc.


As for Abraham, your God was not smart enough to create enough people to avoid inbreeding. What about the other inbreeders after Abraham?

Why do atheists get married??

I thought love was not part of u guys agenda....

Monkeys do not love or maRry......

Why do u get married??

Answer me.....

ijawkid:

Why do atheists get married??

I thought love was not part of u guys agenda....

Monkeys do not love or maRry......

Why do u get married??

Answer me.....

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Lol....

Yeye boy.....

U better go eat some banana's and stop worrying about marraige and what is involved in marraige....

It shuldnt bother u......

ijawkid:

Lol....

Yeye boy.....

U better go eat some banana's and stop worrying about marraige and what is involved in marraige....

It shuldnt bother u......

You should worry about incest and polygamy in the bible

Cheers01:

You should worry about incest and polygamy in the bible

I aint worried...

If u have an alternative as to how abraham would have married 1 who wasn't his sister please present it.....

Like I said there is no way abraham wuldnt have married some1 related to him....

Because they were closer to d time when d population of men on earth was small and closer to creation......

ijawkid:


I aint worried...

If u have an alternative as to how abraham would have married 1 who wasn't his sister please present it.....

Like I said there is no way abraham wuldnt have married some1 related to him....

Because they were closer to d time when d population of men on earth was small and closer to creation......

Simple alternative; God should have created more human beings. Is your guy that foolish?

logicboy01:


Simple alternative; God should have created more human beings. Is your guy that foolish?

He didn't have to bro...

All generations came from 1 man...

Ok??

Ask ur evolutionists why we are getting married instead.....


Why do atheists get married??

Why??

Just live like apes .......

ijawkid:

He didn't have to bro...

All generations came from 1 man...

Ok??

Ask ur evolutionists why we are getting married instead.....


Why do atheists get married??

Why??

Just live like apes .......

The same reason everyone does. Exclusive companionship

logicboy01:

The same reason everyone does. Exclusive companionship

Lol.....

Oh I see......

Not because u love d person??

Why even get married in d 1st place??

Like I said why dnt u jus live like ya ancestors(apes)........

Why follow d course of God who instituted marraige.....??

ijawkid:

Lol.....

Oh I see......

Not because u love d person??

Why even get married in d 1st place??

Like I said why dnt u jus live like ya ancestors(apes)........

Why follow d course of God who instituted marraige.....??

Ode, people were getting married before your God came along. Judaism/christianity were not the first religions.

As for "love".....how can there be companionship without love?

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Good times

How can a pig know what is clean when it is used to dirt ?

frosbel: How can a pig know what is clean when it is used to dirt ?

Good question.


How can someone who uses the bible (which contains incest and polygamy) talk about the sanctity of marriage?