God created everything, but as creation rules go, even in religious and scientifically circles, something must have created him/her for him/her to exist otherwise any existence would not be possible

so who was it ?

is god more of an infinite character?

which of the gods? Olorun, Allah, Jesus Christ, Yahweh, Jehovah, El, Chi, Mawu, Bhuddah, et al.

all of the above!!! i don't want to come out biased

You don't want to come out biased?? You might have to then cause it is not a one size fits all deal. You have to be more specific.

@dot2002

dot2002:

God created everything, but as creation rules go, even in religious and scientifically circles, something must have created him/her for him/her to exist otherwise any existence would not be possible

so who was it ?

is god more of an infinite character?

Since you talk to God like you can see Him, why don't you ask Him directly?

if you really can't stand my comments and post, you can sukk while i look down on you. Ni99a

I understand your question but am waiting for you to be more specific. Which God do you really want to discuss. I am not of the belief that all Gods are the same as I believe that would be me saying God is schitzophrenic in nature and that is contrary to my belief. The Logic that all things that exist must have been created at one time or another does not apply to all things, even science. Remember the Law of Thermodynamics , I believe this be the 2nd which says, Matter can neither be created Nor destroyed.
 
Science in itself does not even attempt to explain God or define God and so applying scientific ideas of any sort to God is not logical. Plus, Faith begets Logic, not the other way around. So I would take God's world that He was, He is, and always will be.

I understand your question but am waiting for you to be more specific. Which God do you really want to discuss. I am not of the belief that all Gods are the same as I believe that would be me saying God is schitzophrenic in nature and that is contrary to my belief. The Logic that all things that exist must have been created at one time or another does not apply to all things, even science. Remember the Law of Thermodynamics , I believe this be the 2nd which says, Matter can neither be created Nor destroyed.

Science in itself does not even attempt to explain God or define God and so applying scientific ideas of any sort to God is not logical. Plus, Faith begets Logic, not the other way around. So I would take God's world that He was, He is, and always will be.

Logged

WORD of Wisdom!

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"GOD" HE IS A SUPREME BEING, HE JUST EXISTS. NO NOONE CREATED HIM. HE'S A GOD THAT GIVES COMMAND. HE WORKS WITH HIS BEGOTTEN SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. THAT'S WHY THEY CALL HIM-"HOLY TRINITY". NO ONE KNOWS THE PLAN OF GOD. HE'S A GOD OF PURPOSE, MORESO,EVERYTHING HE DOES IS FOR A PURPOSE. WE NEED TO RESPECT GOD COS HE IS CAPABLE OF ANYTHING. PLEASE DON'T LIMIT GOD BY CALLING HIM ANY NAMES OR WRITING HIS NAME IN SMALL "g".

*******OK!!! GOD JUST EXIST*********

[quote="Kobojunkie"]So I would take God's world that He was, He is, and always will be.[/quote]

You saying God's world [I think you meant word] and if you meant "word" who wrote the God's word i.e the Bible and how could you confirm that it was written by those who you believed wrote it according to your faith? Wasn't it edited properly to fit the christianity we all know today?

Also, do you think of Jesus Christ as a negroid or caucasian? I think your church and all the Jesus christ movies you've probably seen all your life denotes later that is, caucasian.

How true is that? and yeas, who do you believe in-?

bjluv:

You saying God's world [I think you meant word] and if you meant "word" who wrote the God's word i.e the Bible and how could you confirm that it was written by those who you believed wrote it according to your faith? Wasn't it edited properly to fit the christianity we all know today?

Also, do you think of Jesus Christ as a negroid or caucasian? I think your church and all the Jesus christ movies you've probably seen all your life denotes later that is, caucasian.

How true is that? and yeas, who do you believe in-?

My dear man, thanks for correcting me. I meant WORD and not WORLD. As For who WROTE God's word?? I think you have to understand God first, to understand his Word and why the focus should not really be placed on Who Wrote God's word as much as it should be on if what is written lines up with God's own Word or not. The only one that can verify what is written is God and He himself would be the one you would have to consult if you want to know.

I am sorry that the color of people's skin and even Jesus own skin matters to you, it do not care much what race a person belongs to and so his skin color, in movies or in reality does not matter to me.

I believe in God because God himself has proved himself to me. No body had to do it for me but God himself and He proved Himself and His word true in my life and so I belong to Him.

bjluv:

You saying God's world [I think you meant word] and if you meant "word" who wrote the God's word i.e the Bible and how could you confirm that it was written by those who you believed wrote it according to your faith? Wasn't it edited properly to fit the christianity we all know today?

Also, do you think of Jesus Christ as a negroid or caucasian? I think your church and all the Jesus christ movies you've probably seen all your life denotes later that is, caucasian.

How true is that? and yeas, who do you believe in-?

FRIEND,
NOONE HAS SEEN GOD BEFORE, SOME HAS SEEN JESUS. BUT THEY CAN'T WITHSTAND THE LIGHT FROM HIS FACE. IT'S SO BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN. JESUS IS NOT A CAUCASIAN OR NEGRIOD,HE JUST EXIST!!! HE LOVES US, I LOVE HIM!

JESUS SAID-"IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD,ALSO BELIEVE IN ME" HAVE FAITH IN GOD!!!

god is only an idea or a being
god is what you want in your mind
no god in any religious teaching will ever give you anything
just try it go the the local children's hospital pick a child with trisomy 18, and ask god for that child to live, just one child amongst billions on earth. just ask for that one child to be saved.
thats not too much for an all caring child loving god is it?

lord have mercy,

MAD CRAZY MAN, GOD PUNISH YOU,HOW DARE YOU INSULT GOD, AM SORRY FOR THE CURS BUT CAN'T STAND THE SHIT, [size=5pt] HISS AND WALKS OUT OF THE ROOM[/size]

LORD FORGIVE THEM ALL, for the sake of your Son JESUS.

He has no choice but to forgive me, because she know me more than anyone that try to judge me. My daddy's never judgmental, she sees through all of you, serious. I raised a genuine question everybody was afraid of asking because of one cultural taboo or another and you think i have been committed to hell because of that, you have another thing coming to you, because whatever it takes we shall all me heaven.

**********PLEASE PEOPLE RESPECT GOD FOR WHO HE IS**********

To answer the question pointblank;

THE GOD OF GOD CREATED GOD.Lobatan!


Next question;

WHO CREATED THE GOD THAT CREATED GOD?

The answer;

THE GOD OF GOD THAT CREATED GOD

Next question;

WHO CREATED,

religion freaks us all Nigerians _fucking ^out!!!

I wouldn't say thanks to the Europeans who screwed us all up from the onset _{[since the time they got their eyes on Africa & started to Zap us up]}

All you folks in here needs to question what you believe-in alright, does it matter if Jesus is white or black? Yes it does when a fella tell it to your face that "--- even Jesus christ is white and from the bible blacks are from the line of Esau"

Now tell me if that is true and how much history/religion books have you dug into?


_{The more you know, the wise you become.}

denniz:





**********PLEASE PEOPLE RESPECT GOD FOR WHO HE IS**********

if you are referring to Yahweh or Jehovah or Elohim he/she/it deserves no respect from me but condemnation

IDINRETE:

if you are referring to Yahweh or Jehovah or Elohim he/she/it deserves no respect from me but condemnation

@ idinrete, Why do you say so why you can condemning God,your creator He can destroy you now for that but he's all merciful but don't use that to play.

He protects,provide and sustain you. He gives you life. Please go now and plea for his forgiveness. He will show you mercy.

WAIT!!! y do u condemn him

F#ck christianity, f#ck islam, f#ck the bible, f#ck the quran, f#ck the christian god, F#ck the muslim god and any other gods that don't have African origins.
All you people saying "I DON'T CARE IF HE'S CAUCASIAN OR BLACK OR HEBREW AS, HE LOVES ME AND I LOVE HIM" are fools, these crackers and rag heads demonized the African culture and denounced our practices as pagan, what makes jesus, moses, david and all those guys better than Orunmila or Shango or Eshu? They will never accept the Gods of our forefathers but we bow down and go ga ga over jesus and mohammed. They even try to erase our culture, saying we were savages before they came. THESE SAME "SAVAGES" BUILT THE GRAT PYRAMIDS, THE EGYPTIAN DYNASTY, THE OYO EMPIRE ETC, and we had our own religious cults but they came over and said "JESUS IS COMING" and my people have been waiting for "RAPTURE" since.

Back to the question, The Creator could just be a theory developed by the ancients to understand the world around them and the afterlife or a supreme being or beings who were bored and decided to create us and everything else.

Who Created God?

We did. She and her kind were necessary, and not usually conscious inventions.

Dios:

F#ck christianity, f#ck islam, f#ck the bible, f#ck the quran, f#ck the christian god, F#ck the muslim god and any other gods that don't have African origins.
All you people saying "I DON'T CARE IF HE'S CAUCASIAN OR BLACK OR HEBREW AS, HE LOVES ME AND I LOVE HIM" are fools, these crackers and rag heads demonized the African culture and denounced our practices as pagan, what makes jesus, moses, david and all those guys better than Orunmila or Shango or Eshu? They will never accept the Gods of our forefathers but we bow down and go ga ga over jesus and mohammed. They even try to erase our culture, saying we were savages before they came. THESE SAME "SAVAGES" BUILT THE GRAT PYRAMIDS, THE EGYPTIAN DYNASTY, THE OYO EMPIRE ETC, and we had our own religious cults but they came over and said "JESUS IS COMING" and my people have been waiting for "RAPTURE" since.


Back to the question, The Creator could just be a theory developed by the ancients to understand the world around them and the afterlife or a supreme being or beings who were bored and decided to create us and everything else.

@dios,you don't need to condemn God for other "gods" don't you know that the powers the "gods" have are from the Mighty God God loves you. If not so,why did he send his only begotten son,Jesus to the world to die for our sins and to redeem us from the bondage of sin Your gods orunmila,shango and eshu are created by God even you. but those gods out of understanding got thier powers from the devil himself. Devil doesn't create any power,his powers are from God. So don't condemn him or else you soul will be withdrawed from you by God.
God loves u, accept Jesus today as your Lord and saviour. And i bet you,you will enjoy the benefits just as i do.

Nobody created God. Because: if God had been created, He would exist!

denniz:

@dios,you don't need to condemn God for other "gods" don't you know that the powers the "gods" have are from the Mighty God God loves you. If not so,why did he send his only begotten son,Jesus to the world to die for our sins and to redeem us from the bondage of sin Your gods orunmila,shango and eshu are created by God even you. but those gods out of understanding got their powers from the devil himself. Devil doesn't create any power,his powers are from God. So don't condemn him or else you soul will be withdrawed from you by God.
God loves u, accept Jesus today as your Lord and saviour. And i bet you,you will enjoy the benefits just as i do.

So the Yoruba(African) Gods didn't get their authority from Oludumare but from the devil!!!!!!!! But the white dude is "THE SON OF GOD".
MENTAL SLAVERY

Dios:

So the Yoruba(African) Gods didn't get their authority from Oludumare but from the devil!!!!!!!! But the white dude is "THE SON OF GOD".
MENTAL SLAVERY

uumm,  How come Christ is to you the WHITE DUDE? Are you sure you should be speaking of someone elses mental slavery??

denniz:

@ idinrete, Why do you say so why you can condemning God,your creator He can destroy you now for that but he's all merciful but don't use that to play.

He protects,provide and sustain you. He gives you life. Please go now and plea for his forgiveness. He will show you mercy.

WAIT!!! y do u condemn him

Dear Denniz

I will respond fully to your concerns but not now, if you believe that god [i dont know which one you are alluding to--- is it yahweh elohim jehovah or whatever will destroy me, i will not be suprised. Im not going to be the first he will destroy just like he commanded the poor innocent amalakite children to be slaughtered,

in all honesty can you imagine a god ordering that the entire infants in a country should be destroyed, he/she/it should have been charged for infanticide and genocide, what was the offence of the amalekites just because they refused the wanderers to pass through their country  

yahweh,jehovah elohim even condones slavery, killed onan for refusing to pour his sperm into his brothers wife, so people can now be forced to sleep with their dead brother, even the Yorubas dont engage in that practice no more[ in the youruba culture i dont think it was compulsory then] BUT yahweh made it compulsory, 
and you are still giving credence to that god, the god that allowed male captives to be slaughtered and the virgins to be kept to be deflowered, 
, what utter madness, so much for a god

People that have give a very opposing view but stayed on the topic i thank all of you, but guys that even dare to curse me or try to make me feel uncomfortable you can kizz my azz because I'm an more than an angel in God hierarchical plan so how can a mere mortal like you try to make me feel bad about a thoroughly refreshing view. if what you want is a simple topic with a yes or no answer i can come up with a million but where is the originality in that, can such a question make you use a little bit of that Grey matter smarter than any computer??

At the end of the day i just want people to see the light, it a challenge to God if he is the maker of heaven and earth, if he know he can raise mountains to shift and then land in the oceans He should make wrong right before i finally stop believing, whether we like it or not we will all die so I'm not afraid of death, just as is has been written so i don't have any fear, some of us here will have stroke, diabetes, heart attack, high blood pressure and so on when we start nearing seventy, this is not controlled by God contrary to what a lot of fools here writes but by the accumulated unrepairable mutation in our genetic construct, what you eat, the exercises you do and your genetics predisposition to accumulate fat like my mum azz.

like IDINRETE wrote, what sin so great did those destroyed committed, some story in the bible are eerie, they are so sad that you just know its not right, am i just to accept this stories written and re-written by men, supposedly under the influence of Holy spirit hook, line ,and sinker?

Some of the writers were influenced by there personal experience and self beliefs for example Paul the Saint one of the early founders prefer that we all stay celibate for life and he drink bitters sometimes to keep in check his aches. the norms and culture of the time. And why should i leave in the perpetual fear that God will destroy me, i have not committed adultery, i help the faint hearted and sick, to be honest i don't want to be holy the pharisee and Sadducee's here can profess to be I'm not, holiness is of GOD and impossible from a man.

I have enjoyed all of the post but plz if you don't know what you are saying don't post or at least try to make it a joke. ta

Dios:

So the Yoruba(African) Gods didn't get their authority from Oludumare but from the devil!!!!!!!! But the white dude is "THE SON OF GOD".
MENTAL SLAVERY

Wait!!! Who is Oludumare Don't call God's son "WHITE DUDE" Know what,God might be angry with you for condemning him now moreso {THE HOLY TRINITY} Those shungo etc are not serving God but satan. Try to respect God for who he is,YOUR CREATOR

Stop giving devil space to deceive you and make you to condemn God. Well,everything you do or say,GOD KNOWS IT!!!!

*****WATCH IT******