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Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by dekung(m): 1:11am On Jul 13, 2012
Viewer discretion is adviced as this contains gory details of cannibalisation.

“Our lives begin to end the moment we become silent about things that matter” – Martin Luther King.

http://zainabusman./2012/02/04/video-of-the-cannibalization-of-muslims-in-jos-where-is-our-humanity/
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MacDaddy01: 1:37am On Jul 13, 2012
A crime is a crime. These christians are as crazy as the Boko Hrama they hate!


Nigeria, why are we so backwards. The corrupt governors and politicians just ignore these things because the money they are stealing is their main focus


Spaghetti Monster help us! Strect your noodle-like appendage and show us the way of peace, the pastafarian way!
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by dekung(m): 1:44am On Jul 13, 2012
I wonder wether the only thing important to us is religion. What happened to life, whatever happened to humanity? Voltaire has captured..... whoever can make you believe absurdities will make you comit attrocities. I never believed this could happend in the 21st century but alas.... welcome to Nigeria
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MacDaddy01: 1:58am On Jul 13, 2012
dekung: I wonder wether the only thing important to us is religion. What happened to life, whatever happened to humanity? Voltaire has captured..... whoever can make you believe absurdities will make you comit attrocities. I never believed this could happend in the 21st century but alas.... welcome to Nigeria


whoever can make you believe absurdities will make you comit attrocities.


whoever can make you believe absurdities will make you comit attrocities.


Epic quote
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MrAnony1(m): 8:40am On Jul 13, 2012
My God! I just saw the video. Disgusting! These people are not Christians at all. heck I even doubt they are human!
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MyJoe: 9:24am On Jul 13, 2012
Carnibalism as a cultural practice has existed among tribes from ancient times in every continent of the world, with the possible exception of Europe. Unfortunately, this practice has survived into modern times in some places, including parts of Nigeria. The Berom are probably one of such tribes.

The practice varies from place to place. Somewhere, only enemies killed in war are eaten. Elsewhere, criminals are edible. At other places, any lost stranger would do just fine. Characterising this as Christians eating Moslems may be somewhat misleading. But it is understandable since the Berom are mostly Christian and the Hausa/Fulani are mostly Moslem.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by mazaje(m): 9:30am On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony: My God! I just saw the video. Disgusting! These people are not Christians at all. heck I even doubt they are human!

Coming from someone that justifies r[i]a[/i]pe murder and slavery as divine punishment. . How did you know that it wasn't their god that told them to do it? After all he did it before and he never changes,no? .What does it take to be a christian?. . .They are even singing that they are soldiers of Jesus and they will never get tired in hausa. . . .What exactly is the difference tw these people and the BH?. . .

@Myjoe
They are singing that they are soldiers of Jesus and they will never get tired. . . .Thats the song they are singing in hausa.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MrAnony1(m): 9:52am On Jul 13, 2012
mazaje:
Coming from someone that justifies r[i]a[/i]pe murder and slavery as divine punishment. . How did you know that it wasn't their god that told them to do it? After all he did it before and he never changes,no? .What does it take to be a christian?. . .They are even singing that they are soldiers of Jesus and they will never get tired in hausa. . . .What exactly is the difference tw these people and the BH?. . .
Of course you would want to take a cheap shot. I'll answer you yet again: What they did goes against christianity even if they claimed to be soldiers of Jesus.

God isn't pleased with their actions, I am sure of this because God has made Himself manifest to us through Jesus Christ and what those people were doing does not in anyway portray the life of Christ.

What they have done is wrong.

Besides (...and here's me taking my own cheap shot) How do you know that what they have done is wrong? since according to you, morality is subjective depending on society and obviously in that society, cannibalism is good, not so?
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by dekung(m): 10:59am On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Of course you would want to take a cheap shot. I'll answer you yet again: What they did goes against christianity even if they claimed to be soldiers of Jesus.

God isn't pleased with their actions, I am sure of this because God has made Himself manifest to us through Jesus Christ and what those people were doing does not in anyway portray the life of Christ.

What they have done is wrong.

Besides (...and here's me taking my own cheap shot) How do you know that what they have done is wrong? since according to you, morality is subjective depending on society and obviously in that society, cannibalism is good, not so?
The argument you advanced here is the same argument an average muslim would advance when discussing Boko Haram, Al Qaeda et al. However, one common denominator is that this evil has religious inclination. If these people are not christians then what religion do they practice (remember they were singing 'soldiers of Jesus in Hausa')? If Boko Haram people are not moslems then what religion do they practice (Remember they still bent on islamising nigeria)? The bottomline is both religion are so maleable they can be twisted by any craftsman. If there is a real deity behind these religion, that deity must be very evil because despite its omni everything it cant control its followers. Shame on the Abrahamic God these people believe in because he is either powerless or merciless
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MyJoe: 11:13am On Jul 13, 2012
mazaje:

Coming from someone that justifies r[i]a[/i]pe murder and slavery as divine punishment. . How did you know that it wasn't their god that told them to do it? After all he did it before and he never changes,no? .What does it take to be a christian?. . .They are even singing that they are soldiers of Jesus and they will never get tired in hausa. . . .What exactly is the difference tw these people and the BH?. . .

@Myjoe
They are singing that they are soldiers of Jesus and they will never get tired. . . .Thats the song they are singing in hausa.

I get your point. And, of course, it's inaccurate for anyone to say they are not Christians, since, indeed, they are. That would be as untrue as someone saying Al Qaeda or Bokos are not Moslems. They happen to be. The questions to ask are (1) whether they use Islam to justify their acts, (2) whether Islam justifies their acts, and (3) whether their acts can be justified in Islam. These Berom guys don't set about eating people because of their religion. If they went to fight against of any other tribe who happened to be Christians they would have done what they did. Cannibalism, as practised here, has no religion and there is simply no way to trace it to Christianity.

Zainab Usman is misguided in describing Jos as fighting "in the name of religion". There is no study you will carry out on the Jos crisis that will lead you to religion as the source of conflict. Jos is different from Kano, Bauchi or Zango-Kataf.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MyJoe: 11:17am On Jul 13, 2012
MacDaddy01: A crime is a crime. These christians are as crazy as the Boko Hrama they hate!
Right. In a sane society these people would be found out and prosecuted. There are even faces in the videos. Nigeria has long gone past all pretenses at being a
civilized society. At least, parts of it.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MacDaddy01: 11:23am On Jul 13, 2012
MyJoe:
Right. In a sane society these people would be found out and prosecuted. There are even faces in the videos. Nigeria has long gone past all pretenses at being a
civilized society. At least, parts of it.

Very sad. When will we wake up?
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by PastorAIO: 11:43am On Jul 13, 2012
MyJoe: Carnibalism as a cultural practice has existed among tribes from ancient times in every continent of the world[b], [size=14pt]with the possible exception of Europe[/size][/b]. Unfortunately, this practice has survived into modern times in some places, including parts of Nigeria. The Berom are probably one of such tribes.

The practice varies from place to place. Somewhere, only enemies killed in war are eaten. Elsewhere, criminals are edible. At other places, any lost stranger would do just fine. Characterising this as Christians eating Moslems may be somewhat misleading. But it is understandable since the Berom are mostly Christian and the Hausa/Fulani are mostly Moslem.

Europe is not excepted o! It was part of the campaign to oust muslims from the Holy Land.



Radulph of Caen, an eyewitness to events at Ma'arra in 1098, wrote, "In Ma'arra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking-pots; they impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled." (1)

The chronicler Albert of Aix seemed to rank Muslims lower than dogs when he wrote, "Not only did our troops not shrink from eating dead Turks and Saracens; they also ate dogs!"

Guibert of Nogent, in his work Historia Hierosolymitana, provides more details on the incident of cannibalism at Ma'arra. There he notes that whenever the Tafurs who took part in the expedition discovered "scraps of flesh from the pagan's bodies" cannibalism was practiced with little discretion. According to Guibert, the Tafurs were well aware that the Muslims feared them because of cannibalism. For that reason, on at least one occasion, the Tafurs publicly "roasted the bruised body of a Turk over a fire as if it were meat for eating, in full view of the Turkish forces." Guibert notes that the Franks also practiced cannibalism, but they did so "in secret and as rarely as possible.

http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by mazaje(m): 11:54am On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Of course you would want to take a cheap shot. I'll answer you yet again: What they did goes against christianity even if they claimed to be soldiers of Jesus.

God isn't pleased with their actions, I am sure of this because God has made Himself manifest to us through Jesus Christ and what those people were doing does not in anyway portray the life of Christ.

What they have done is wrong.

Besides (...and here's me taking my own cheap shot) How do you know that what they have done is wrong? since according to you, morality is subjective depending on society and obviously in that society, cannibalism is good, not so?

Not according to me but according to the reality of the world we live in that is why polygamy and gay marriage for example are right in some societies and wrong in some. . .Reality supports my position not yours. . . .In Nigeria, killing of innocent people is wrong, it is also wrong to take the laws into your hands. . .Cannibalism is a criminal offence in Nigeria, so the people are wrong within the laws of the land in which they live. . . .
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:00pm On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Of course you would want to take a cheap shot. I'll answer you yet again: What they did goes against christianity even if they claimed to be soldiers of Jesus.

God isn't pleased with their actions, I am sure of this because God has made Himself manifest to us through Jesus Christ and what those people were doing does not in anyway portray the life of Christ.

What they have done is wrong.

Besides (...and here's me taking my own cheap shot) How do you know that what they have done is wrong? since according to you, morality is subjective depending on society and obviously in that society, cannibalism is good, not so?

You nailed it right there. These atheists wannabes always lay claim to moral relativity when it suits them. If morality depends on the culture (the Beroms), what right have these 'atheists' got to condemn them? This should tell them that absolute morality is the only way to go.

Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MacDaddy01: 12:04pm On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Of course you would want to take a cheap shot. I'll answer you yet again: What they did goes against christianity even if they claimed to be soldiers of Jesus.

God isn't pleased with their actions, I am sure of this because God has made Himself manifest to us through Jesus Christ and what those people were doing does not in anyway portray the life of Christ.

What they have done is wrong.

Besides (...and here's me taking my own cheap shot) How do you know that what they have done is wrong? since according to you, morality is subjective depending on society and obviously in that society, cannibalism is good, not so?


Moral universalism
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MyJoe: 12:07pm On Jul 13, 2012
@PastorAIO

Thanks for that^^^. Certainly an angle I had not averted my mind to. In exempting Europe, I was talking about cultural cannibalism, that is, where it is an established practice among the people of a village or tribe. I had course to research a bit on this cannibalism matter and failed to come up with European cases. There have certainly been cases of individuals, though. I am suspecting that the Berom case is a tribal practice carried over from ancient times. But if that is not the case and they simply sunk to this level on the spur of religious or ethnic hatred, then it perfectly parallels the example you have cited.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by PastorAIO: 12:18pm On Jul 13, 2012
-Since there is a God then what he decrees is what is Good
He decreed to me that we should be loving and kind.

CHOMP!!

- Well, he decreed to me that I should eat you.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MrAnony1(m): 12:21pm On Jul 13, 2012
dekung:
The argument you advanced here is the same argument an average muslim would advance when discussing Boko Haram, Al Qaeda et al. However, one common denominator is that this evil has religious inclination. If these people are not christians then what religion do they practice (remember they were singing 'soldiers of Jesus in Hausa')? If Boko Haram people are not moslems then what religion do they practice (Remember they still bent on islamising nigeria)? The bottomline is both religion are so maleable they can be twisted by any craftsman. If there is a real deity behind these religion, that deity must be very evil because despite its omni everything it cant control its followers. Shame on the Abrahamic God these people believe in because he is either powerless or merciless

Of course a muslim could make the same argument. But then there is only one way of knowing for sure if what I say is true or not.

The life of Jesus Christ and the early Church are what Christianity is about. You can find this in The bible in particular the new testament.

All I ask of you is to prove that I am lying by showing me from the bible how Christianity supports this behaviour. If you can do that, then you will have an actual case.

Telling me that they sang christian songs while eating human flesh is proof that they are christians is akin to saying that robbers who wear police uniforms to rob are policemen.

By the way the "omni everything" God would really be evil if He took away your freewill. The fact that he did not, is testament to his goodness.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MacDaddy01: 12:22pm On Jul 13, 2012
Pastor AIO: -Since there is a God then what he decrees is what is Good
He decreed to me that we should be loving and kind.

CHOMP!!

- Well, he decreed to me that I should eat you.



Epic reply. Lets see Olaadegbu escapes from this one
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MrAnony1(m): 12:25pm On Jul 13, 2012
mazaje:

Not according to me but according to the reality of the world we live in that is why polygamy and gay marriage for example are right in some societies and wrong in some. . .Reality supports my position not yours. . . .In Nigeria, killing of innocent people is wrong, it is also wrong to take the laws into your hands. . .Cannibalism is a criminal offence in Nigeria, so the people are wrong within the laws of the land in which they live. . . .

So according to your reality, cannibalism would be right if it was legal by Nigerian law? The only problem here is that what they are doing is illegal?

Sorry bro, this behaviour is always evil no matter who sanctions it......and that is reality.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:14pm On Jul 13, 2012
Pastor AIO: -Since there is a God then what he decrees is what is Good
He decreed to me that we should be loving and kind.

CHOMP!!

- Well, he decreed to me that I should eat you.

Eternal, unchanging Truth wins at all times.

Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by mazaje(m): 1:19pm On Jul 13, 2012
Mr_Anony:

So according to your reality, cannibalism would be right if it was legal by Nigerian law? The only problem here is that what they are doing is illegal?

Sorry bro, this behaviour is always evil no matter who sanctions it......and that is reality.

Really?. . .When slavery was right your god was its advocate, and telling people how to enslave their daughters. . . when human sacrifice was right your god accepted it, no?. . .Remember Jephthah sacrificed his daughter as a burnt offering unto your god because it was acceptable at that time. . .If cannibalism was legal by the Nigerian constitution then yes it will be right after all it was the right thing in so many parts of the world before it was changed. . . .
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by Ptolomeus(m): 6:58pm On Jul 13, 2012
Arabs arrived and enslaved Africa.
Europeans arrived and enslaved Africa.
The "slave ships" traveled full, it was a great business!
Then, the Arabs and Europeans told us that all we had was bad.
It was bad our culture, our traditions, our gods and our language.
They imposed on us their culture, their traditions, their gods and languages ​​...
Everything we had was bad, our ancestors were wrong!.
But today, Africa has the highest infant mortality rate, the highest percentage of people infected with AIDS, the highest percentage of malnutrition, the largest number of people below the poverty level ...
Africa is today the world's least developed continent
But today, the gods lead us to commit acts like these ...
Fortunately we have come a long way ... we are under the protection of Jesus Christ and Allah ...
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by alienvirus: 8:53pm On Jul 13, 2012
Leviticus 26:29
You will eat the flesh of your
sons and the flesh of your
daughters.
Deuteronomy 28:53
Because of the suffering that your
enemy will inflict on you during
the siege, you will eat the fruit
of the womb, the flesh of the sons
and daughters the LORD your God
has given you.
Deuteronomy 28:56-57
The most gentle and sensitive
woman among you?so sensitive and
gentle that she would not venture
to touch the ground with the sole
of her foot?will begrudge the
husband she loves and her own son
or daughter the afterbirth from
her womb and the children she
bears. For she intends to eat them
secretly during the siege and in
the distress that your enemy will
inflict on you in your cities.
2 Kings 6:29
So we cooked my son and ate him.
The next day I said to her, 'Give
up your son so we may eat him,'
but she had hidden him."
Jeremiah 19:9
I will make them eat the flesh of
their sons and daughters, and they
will eat one another's flesh
during the stress of the siege
imposed on them by the enemies who
seek their lives.'
Lamentations 2:20
"Look, O LORD, and consider: Whom
have you ever treated like this?
Should women eat their offspring,
the children they have cared for?
Should priest and prophet be
killed in the sanctuary of the
Lord?
Lamentations 4:10
With their own hands compassionate
women have cooked their own
children, who became their food
when my people were destroyed.
Ezekiel 5:10
Therefore in your midst fathers
will eat their children, and
children will eat their fathers. I
will inflict punishment on you and
will scatter all your survivors to
the winds.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by Ptolomeus(m): 10:04pm On Jul 13, 2012
alienvirus: Leviticus 26:29
You will eat the flesh of your
sons and the flesh of your
daughters.
Deuteronomy 28:53
Because of the suffering that your
enemy will inflict on you during
the siege, you will eat the fruit
of the womb, the flesh of the sons
and daughters the LORD your God
has given you.
Deuteronomy 28:56-57
The most gentle and sensitive
woman among you?so sensitive and
gentle that she would not venture
to touch the ground with the sole
of her foot?will begrudge the
husband she loves and her own son
or daughter the afterbirth from
her womb and the children she
bears. For she intends to eat them
secretly during the siege and in
the distress that your enemy will
inflict on you in your cities.
2 Kings 6:29
So we cooked my son and ate him.
The next day I said to her, 'Give
up your son so we may eat him,'
but she had hidden him."
Jeremiah 19:9
I will make them eat the flesh of
their sons and daughters, and they
will eat one another's flesh
during the stress of the siege
imposed on them by the enemies who
seek their lives.'
Lamentations 2:20
"Look, O LORD, and consider: Whom
have you ever treated like this?
Should women eat their offspring,
the children they have cared for?
Should priest and prophet be
killed in the sanctuary of the
Lord?
Lamentations 4:10
With their own hands compassionate
women have cooked their own
children, who became their food
when my people were destroyed.
Ezekiel 5:10
Therefore in your midst fathers
will eat their children, and
children will eat their fathers. I
will inflict punishment on you and
will scatter all your survivors to
the winds.

In my previous post, I explain about the worst kind of slavery:
Mental slavery.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by vescucci(m): 10:22pm On Jul 13, 2012
Lord. This world is a sickening place. It's also so beautiful at times. I dunno how it can be both so
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by alienvirus: 6:01am On Jul 14, 2012
Ptolomeus:

In my previous post, I explain about the worst kind of slavery:
Mental slavery.

Are they not cannibalism in the bible?
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MrAnony1(m): 7:59am On Jul 14, 2012
alienvirus:

Are they not cannibalism in the bible?
@alienvirus, you have blatantly quoted the bible out of context.

None of the verses you quoted contain a command from God to eat human flesh. Most of them are punishments from God.

You are simply just a dubious character.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by alienvirus: 9:56am On Jul 14, 2012
Shatttttttap my friend and face front.
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by MrAnony1(m): 10:01am On Jul 14, 2012
alienvirus: Shatttttttap my friend and face front.
Exactly as I expected, you can't honestly back up your claim so you resort to abuse. Pathetic Liar!
Re: Cannibalization Of Muslims In Jos On Video: Where Is Our Humanity? by alienvirus: 10:11am On Jul 14, 2012
Now define cannibalism and compare it with above verses. Shoot yourself in d skull

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