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I Don't Understand This by Mikel99(m): 2:23pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Is it possible for an evil man or woman or a person who destroys the lives of other people's children to have successful children? I asked because people often say that what you do to other people's children will come back to your own children ten folds. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Mikel99(m): 2:25pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
I want the opinion of a very SPIRITUAL person |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 2:28pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Mikel99:Ofcourse! Stop blinding yourself to all that is right before you pretending you are being spiritual in your ignorance. Even the most evil experience success by the world's standard which requires no spiritual sense to observe. No spiritual bullsheet required to observe that with one's own eyes. 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Joecross888: 2:29pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Yes each man with his destiny. And your destiny is in your hands not because of what this or that does. Good and evil originate from the same source depends on what you want to transmit. Hope that helps any further question 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Redomi(m): 2:55pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
If you are a Christian, go and read the life story of David, how he collected Urias wife and how he killed him, read what happen to him towards the end of his life, what he children did to him, how he ran into the wilderness for days, etc |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 2:58pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Redomi:David was a righteous man of God long before the incident with Uriah --- God selected David to be king especially for that reason. Do you really think it makes sense to compare your unrighteous Christian existence with that of a righteous man like David? What happened to David has nothing to do with the pattern to be observed in the unrighteous. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Dtruthspeaker: 3:19pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Mikel99: Yes! But success too is a punishment ask Solomon. Mikel99: True! God does punish them in several different ways. And check it out, those destroying other people's children do also destroy their own children whilst trying to protect and promote them. That is what God has done such that as they are destroying others, they are also destroying their own. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Dtruthspeaker: 3:20pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: And everyone sees that he later became unrighteous like other kings of isreal. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:20pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
If you can inherit Genetic problems then you surely can suffer the sins of your ancestors. Adam and Eve Curse |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:22pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
For those unaware, it is impossible for a man who has been approved righteous by God to be rendered unrighteous by any act of his. This since God Himself never forsakes the righteous. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:24pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: So what are the last words of Jesus on the cross as he died Let me help you My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:29pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:Those words Jesus Christ cried out on the cross were the words spoken by David in Psalm 22 vs 1. Read through the rest of the same psalm to realize that it was an emotions driven cry---- a question really ---' from a man in pain. God never did forsake Him even though it felt as though He had. This is evidenced by His actual last words--- " into your hands I command my Spirit." If God had truly forsaken Him, He wouldn't have said that. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:34pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Jesus spoke clearly sugar qoute him Do you know how each and every Disciples of Jesus Christ died Do you know how most prophet died Now tell us what forsaken means to you . |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Clearly not what the bible Said for we saw some kings of Isreal walked righteously at their beginning and God cut them off when they became unrighteous e.g.. Solomon |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Dtruthspeaker: 3:37pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24: It's a 50/50 thing. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:39pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Do you know why Yahoo boys, Politicians all go for spiritual births And even Jesus got baptised? They want to rid of ancestorial misfortune, curse and sins |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:42pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:Stop twisting what He said to fit a false interpretation you have been fed... Jesus Christ clearly asked a question . 2. Does it really matter how they each died? 3. Yes, we do. Majority of them were murdered. Even Jesus addressed that while announcing He too would go the same way. What has that to do with this topic though? 4. You don't even know what it means for a righteous man to be forsaken yet you jumped in? To be approved righteous is to gain God's undivided attention and focus --- access to all of the promises of God as well as His promise to never leave or forsake one. So, to be forsaken by God means one is denied God's attention, promises and is abandoned by God --- left to fend for oneself. God promised those who belong to Him that He will never leave nor forsake them. None of the prophets who were murderers were abandoned by God, and certainly neither was Jesus Christ who made it known to you that His death was of His own accord as He has power to lay down his life and pick it back up again - John 10. Back to the question asked by Jesus Christ on the cross, I suggest you read the entirety of Psalm 22 to understand David's Lamentation from which it came from. God never abandoned David even though David felt dismay and dejection on many occasions. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:45pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Scripture never speaks of God abandoning even Solomon. 9 Now the Lord was angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the Lord, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice,Even in his unfaithfulness, God still spoke to Solomon, something God does not do with any who are unrighteous. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:47pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Forsaken Meaning; forsaken /fəˈseɪk(ə)n,fɔːˈseɪk(ə)n/ adjective abandoned or deserted. Jesus last word as the supposed son of God: Father why have you forsaken me David also asked why he had been forsaken Each an every Dosciple and Prophet got forsaken So which ever way you see it they got forsaken . |
Re: I Don't Understand This by MayntheeMayn: 3:48pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Mikel99:How is this man/woman "evil" and destroying other people's children? |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:49pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:Again, Stop twisting what He said to fit a false interpretation you have been fed... Jesus Christ clearly asked a question . 2. Does it really matter how they each died? 3. Yes, we do. The majority of them were murdered. Even Jesus addressed that while announcing He too would go the same way. What has that to do with this topic though? 4. You don't even know what it means for a righteous man to be forsaken yet you jumped in? To be approved righteous is to gain God's undivided attention and focus --- access to all of the promises of God as well as His promise to never leave or forsake one. So, to be forsaken by God means one is denied God's attention, and promises and is abandoned by God --- left to fend for oneself. God promised those who belong to Him that He will never leave nor forsake them. None of the prophets who were murderers were abandoned by God, and certainly neither was Jesus Christ who made it known to you that His death was of His own accord as He has power to lay down his life and pick it back up again - John 10. Back to the question asked by Jesus Christ on the cross, I suggest you read the entirety of Psalm 22 to understand David's Lamentation from which it came from. God never abandoned David even though David felt dismay and dejection on many occasions. [ |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:51pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Was Jesus forsaken or not Yes or No 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:53pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:The obvious answer to that is NO. Again, this since the same Jesus Christ followed the question up with a declaration committing His Spirit to the hands of the same God only moments later. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:56pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: So If Jesus commited his spirit in the hands of his Father who never saved him during his dying moment he was never forsaken, Abandoned or Ignored . |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 3:57pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross? 11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 3:59pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Does a son needs to ask a father to protect and defend him from death in the most humiliating manner with common thief If you had a kid what would be your reaction 1 Like |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 4:02pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:You didn't answer the question. Again, Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross? 11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 4:05pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:.. stop twisting conversation Answer like a man If You had a son nailed to the cross bleeding and crying Will you save him Yes or No |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 4:12pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:Let's stay on context and stop cooking up ridiculous analogies that make no sense when Scripture is considered. Again, You didn't answer the question. Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross? 11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.There is a reason why Jesus Christ never asked His Father to save Him and the reason was made known by Jesus Christ Himself up there. He did not need saving of any kind. So, why do you insist that Jesus Christ needed saving? |
Re: I Don't Understand This by SMoh24: 4:14pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: . If You had a son nailed to the cross bleeding and crying. Will you save him. Yes or No Very simple For the very last time before exiting the thread Answer the question Should a police interrogate you... They would simply seek more days in custody for you from a magistrate |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Kobojunkie: 4:16pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
SMoh24:Please dead the stewpid analogies and let's stay on context. Again, You didn't answer the question. Did Jesus Christ ask God to save Him from the cross? 11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.There is a reason why Jesus Christ never asked His Father to save Him and the reason was made known by Jesus Christ Himself up there. He did not need saving of any kind. So, why do you insist that Jesus Christ needed saving? |
Re: I Don't Understand This by Dtruthspeaker: 4:17pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Scripture shows us that this was the last time God Spoke to him and even The Words shows that this is God abandoning Solomon. Not to talk of the fact that God raised up his replacement and tormenter. |
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