mrphysics:

We are done here.

No sane human will tell you that a particular course is better than another. For deducing that in my comment, we shouldn't be talking. Goodluck

Calm your tits bruh. I know English is not a strong point for Engineering/physical science students, but you shouldn't be fumbling at comprehending my simple posts. I know you feel threatened because your field is being undermined here, but calm your nerves down and read slowly.

I was referring to the post that I made a comment on, which you replied to. I was even praising you for giving a better response, only for you to interpret it in a very bizarre way.

Go and learn CCTV installion

mrphysics:

And you think the project manager won't have another side hustles? How much is an entry level pharmacist paid?

Do you know that an entry level web developer earns more than a pharmacist? With many side hustles? I have a pharmacist at home so I am not making a blind argument here.

We are talking about those in the pharmaceutical industry. To start with, a Pharmacist owns the industry. What does he even need a project manager?? When he is trained to have numerous management skills He has many other pharmacists working for him with their wealth of managerial skills, what's the need for a project management graduate How many pharmaceutical industries employ project management graduates? Even if there's any, it's sure going to be that the project manager was suffering unemployment and had to be considered by the pharmacist who owns the company to play a different role upon being trained perhaps in HSE or cGMP and believe me the salary is no where close to what a Pharmacist in same company earns.
I have a firsthand knowledge of how pharmaceutical industries work so i know what i am typing about.
Your brother might be a pharmacist who is working where he is not well paid. It's possible. Some people out of ignorance settle for less when they could do better and this applies to all professions.

hayo:
Don't fall into the trap of bad advisers. Below are things you should be thinking about:

1. Nigeria generally has a bad educational sector. Graduating with an Engineering degree does not necessarily mean you'd be a great Engineer.
2. The physical sciences like Maths, Physics and Chemistry can give you competitive advantage if you know how to navigate the terrain.
3. The most important thing is that you are in Year 1 - use that to your advantage and since you love Physics, push to get the best grade possible. A first class in Physics opens several doors for you. A strong 2:1 with skills like coding can also do wonders.
4. With a great grade, you will be able to fight for jobs in almost any sector in Nigeria. But more important, you would have the opportunity of getting full ride scholarship to American and Canadian Universities. That should be your goal. And I mean it.
5. In your spare time, pick a programming language. Be ahead of your peers. See if you can even do some of your assignments using such a programming language. The best software developers I know are Maths and Physics graduates. This is another career path that you can excel in. And no one would discriminate against you for not having a computer science degree.

Life is what you make of it. Also great to have mentors who can tell you the truth about the work place and not beer palour discussions. People told me back then that a Maths degree would only open doors to teaching career. It was the greatest lie from the pit of hell.

Again, do your utmost best in school. Get curious. Learn complementary skills. Browse the Internet for the advances in Physics from top Universities around the world. Go to Coursera.org and see Physics courses you can do online that challenges what they teach you in Lautech. And you are on the way to a great life.

hello sir, do you study mathematics or studying mathematics.

Gaddafithe2nd:

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I should start with the first one right ; data analyst with python.

bro if you really love engineering please go for it. I have been in such situation. Do what you want so you don't end up living in regrets

in Nigeria u r obviously going teach for a while, but outside this S....H....I....T....H.O.L.E. boy u r a hot cake in demand.

Jman06:
We are talking about those in the pharmaceutical industry. To start with, a Pharmacist owns the industry. What does he even need a project manager?? When he is trained to have numerous management skills He has many other pharmacists working for him with their wealth of managerial skills, what's the need for a project management graduate How many pharmaceutical industries employ project management graduates? Even if there's any, it's sure going to be that the project manager was suffering unemployment and had to be considered by the pharmacist who owns the company to play a different role upon being trained perhaps in HSE or cGMP and believe me the salary is no where close to what a Pharmacist in same company earns.
I have a firsthand knowledge of how pharmaceutical industries work so i know what i am typing about.
Your brother might be a pharmacist who is working where he is not well paid. It's possible. Some people out of ignorance settle for less when they could do better and this applies to all professions.

You ended up typing with complete ignorance.

Let me educate you. There's a difference between medicine as a profession and medicine as a business. The business rules the world. A entry level pharmacist will start from N80k -150k, while an entry level medical doctor will start from N140k -N190k. Now an entry level Project manager will start from N130k -N170k. If this person happens to find himself in the IT industry, then his entry level salary will start from N200k upwards.

Pharmacists are underpaid when compared with project managers. I don't need to argue further, if you think its a lie, prove the above wrong.

homesteady:


Calm your tits bruh. I know English is not a strong point for Engineering/physical science students, but you shouldn't be fumbling at comprehending my simple posts. I know you feel threatened because your field is being undermined here, but calm your nerves down and read slowly.

I was referring to the post that I made a comment on, which you replied to. I was even praising you for giving a better response, only for you to interpret it in a very bizarre way.

Your first paragraph isn't necessary. Sorry, my field isn't undermined here, it is only normal for people to question the future seeing the current state of the nation.

I don't want to start analyzing your last post which I replied to, maybe you didn't know it could be understood that way when you wrote it. Your sense of superiority makes you irrelevancies without knowing. Have a good day

Yemight474:
Good morning.
My name is Adeshina Waliyu, a 100 level student(lautech ogbomosho). There is a matter I have been worrying about, due to fear, I have fall in love with my phone searching for info about the issue. And nairaland is one of the site that I always tend to, to know about what I don't know because I believe there are many talented people and experienced people that can put me through.

I have read many topics on this nairaland that relate to the issue that's bothering me yet I still feel like I haven't see what I need. May be it's because most of the topic I read were posted like 4 to 5 years ago, sorry to say I feel like Nigeria then is different from today's Nigeria.

The issue that is bothering me, that makes me need the counsel or advice of people is about the course I was given.
I's a pre degree student 2015/2016, I chose Civil Engineering but unfortunately I scored 255 in Pre degree and 245 in jamb, so I was given Pure and Applied Physics.
Though at that time I was discouraged but later I got over it (Since physics is my best subject). Then I decided to study physics but getting to 100 level, what am hearing from people around me and my brothers is that I should change my course.. What they are telling me is that physics is among the best course in the world
but not here in Nigeria. They said it's better to cross to Engineering.
Though am just a 19 year old boy but I think it's better to start thinking about my future......
So I have been in a dilemma since because my decision will have Great impact to my future.
I can't make a rash decision. That's why I decided to hear from people that will tell me what I don't know.
Please is it true that the hope for science student especially physics graduates in time of job in this Nigeria is not much . I know life is unpredictable and we should follow our instinct. But it is better to know more.
I will be very grateful if you can spare some of your time to give your opinion..

My dear while schooling acquire a skill so that u won't get stranded. I am a graduate of physics with second class upper honors n take it from me the only job out there for graduates of physics is teaching. Be wise

horia:
I should start with the first one right ; data analyst with python.

Click on the icon "start the course for free". You will start as a beginner.

mrphysics:


You ended up typing with complete ignorance.

Let me educate you. There's a difference between medicine as a profession and medicine as a business. The business rules the world. A entry level pharmacist will start from N80k -150k, while an entry level medical doctor will start from N140k -N190k. Now an entry level Project manager will start from N130k -N170k. If this person happens to find himself in the IT industry, then his entry level salary will start from N200k upwards.

Pharmacists are underpaid when compared with project managers. I don't need to argue further, if you think its a lie, prove the above wrong.

You are the ignorant one here! Why do you keep deviating from your earlier stance that a project manager would earn higher than a pharmacist in a pharmaceutical firm Remember that was your initial submission.

And for your information, Pharmacy as a business is not like every other business just anybody can venture into. It is highly regulated and if you are in doubt, educate yourself about what it takes to open a pharmaceutical company.

In public service, medical doctors earn higher than pharmacists, I'm not disputing that. The reason for that is why JOHESU is on strike today. Even at that an entry level pharmacist in public hospitals is placed from CONHESS 9 which is from 170k.

In the private sector, more pharmacists earn better than medical doctors. Even when they work for other pharmacists in community pharmacies, they earn better than their medical doctor friends because their salaries are regulated by P.C.N. Many private clinics don't pay medical doctors above 50k. I know many working in private clinics who earn 50k per month.
Then now compare full fledged pharmacists who have established their own businesses with even consultant medical doctors, the pharmacists earn far better. Not to talk about those who are into manufacturing, importation or distribution.

Now what is even the job prospects of your so called project manager, how many of them are employed and by who??

Young man, maybe you dont know, you can work in the following industries:
1. Petrochemical
2. Oil & gas
3. Mining & steel.

Your job application is not limited only to the classroom.. You have got a good career brother.

I work in Oil & gas so i know too well.

Jman06:
You are the ignorant one here! Why do you keep deviating from your earlier stance that a project manager would earn higher than a pharmacist in a pharmaceutical firm Remember that was your initial submission.

And for your information, Pharmacy as a business is not like every other business just anybody can venture into. It is highly regulated and if you are in doubt, educate yourself about what it takes to open a pharmaceutical company.

In public service, medical doctors earn higher than pharmacists, I'm not disputing that. The reason for that is why JOHESU is on strike today. Even at that an entry level pharmacist in public hospitals is placed from CONHESS 9 which is from 170k.

In the private sector, more pharmacists earn better than medical doctors. Even when they work for other pharmacists in community pharmacies, they earn better than their medical doctor friends because their salaries are regulated by P.C.N. Many private clinics don't pay medical doctors above 50k. I know many working in private clinics who earn 50k per month.
Then now compare full fledged pharmacists who have established their own businesses with even consultant medical doctors, the pharmacists earn far better. Not to talk about those who are into manufacturing, importation or distribution.

Now what is even the job prospects of your so called project manager, how many of them are employed and by who??

Lol, maybe I will address this in an elaborate form.

In government owned institutions, project managers are consultants and you don't compare it to a pharmacist. In hospitals, the project management unit is where the money is. We all know about consultancy and the rest. Pharmacists, doctors, and other health workers are technical persons even in hospitals. They do the technical work while the project manager does the business. He is the one that knows how and when to procure the necessary equipment (s) that the pharmacist or medical doctor will use in the technical work. Most often, in government institutions, the project management role is assigned to a consulting firms where they pay millions upon millions to manage those services. Kindly ask questions.

In private sectors

We both know that Pharmacists and medical doctors earn as you have rightly said. In this same sector, the project manager rules again. A web developer earns far more than a pharmacist let alone project manager. In IT industry, project managers are paid from N200k upwards. I don't want to tell you that while a pharmacist was collecting N60k in the private sector, my salary was almost times 3 of that. Oga, you don't argue that.

Currently, we are handling a project for one pharmaceutical company, a big one for that. After that project, we will create a new role for a pharmacist. In fact, a pharmacist will resign his position and be the product manager. While others will be dispensing drugs doing community pharmacy . Abeg leave talk.

Go to LinkedIn and see how the role of a project manager and other management positions are all being sort after or have you seen those job adverts on nairaland front page looking for a pharmacist? Most people after opening those job adverts don't end up applying because it is quite different from the conventional job role they know. e.g engineering, physic, law, medicine, pharmacy, economics etc. How often do you see jobs like this being sort for? These are technical jobs, the professional jobs is the business management. They are the ones discussing the business while others are executing the technical role.

Jman06:
You are the ignorant one here! Why do you keep deviating from your earlier stance that a project manager would earn higher than a pharmacist in a pharmaceutical firm Remember that was your initial submission.

And for your information, Pharmacy as a business is not like every other business just anybody can venture into. It is highly regulated and if you are in doubt, educate yourself about what it takes to open a pharmaceutical company.

In public service, medical doctors earn higher than pharmacists, I'm not disputing that. The reason for that is why JOHESU is on strike today. Even at that an entry level pharmacist in public hospitals is placed from CONHESS 9 which is from 170k.

In the private sector, more pharmacists earn better than medical doctors. Even when they work for other pharmacists in community pharmacies, they earn better than their medical doctor friends because their salaries are regulated by P.C.N. Many private clinics don't pay medical doctors above 50k. I know many working in private clinics who earn 50k per month.
Then now compare full fledged pharmacists who have established their own businesses with even consultant medical doctors, the pharmacists earn far better. Not to talk about those who are into manufacturing, importation or distribution.

Now what is even the job prospects of your so called project manager, how many of them are employed and by who??

It is visible to the blind that what JOHESU is advocating is not being considered. So an entry level Pharmacist is not even paid up to N170k. But a medical doctor receives that. Secondly, when you do to different states, their pay changes and deviates from JOHESU or whatever.

Go to IT industry and see the price there. Young guys collect N250k. A colleague left to lagos where he is currently being paid N300k. He is a Java developer. That is a salary of a resident doctor that an ordinary B.sc holder collects

mrphysics:


Lol, maybe I will address this in an elaborate form.

In government owned institutions, project managers are consultants and you don't compare it to a pharmacist. In hospitals, the project management unit is where the money is. We all know about consultancy and the rest. Pharmacists, doctors, and other health workers are technical persons even in hospitals. They do the technical work while the project manager does the business. He is the one that knows how and when to procure the necessary equipment (s) that the pharmacist or medical doctor will use in the technical work. Most often, in government institutions, the project management role is assigned to a consulting firms where they pay millions upon millions to manage those services. Kindly ask questions.

In private sectors

We both know that Pharmacists and medical doctors earn as you have rightly said. In this same sector, the project manager rules again. A web developer earns far more than a pharmacist let alone project manager. In IT industry, project managers are paid from N200k upwards. I don't want to tell you that while a pharmacist was collecting N60k in the private sector, my salary was almost times 3 of that. Oga, you don't argue that.

Currently, we are handling a project for one pharmaceutical company, a big one for that. After that project, we will create a new role for a pharmacist. In fact, a pharmacist will resign his position and be the product manager. While others will be dispensing drugs doing community pharmacy . Abeg leave talk.

Go to LinkedIn and see how the role of a project manager and other management positions are all being sort after or have you seen those job adverts on nairaland front page looking for a pharmacist? Most people after opening those job adverts don't end up applying because it is quite different from the conventional job role they know. e.g engineering, physic, law, medicine, pharmacy, economics etc. How often do you see jobs like this being sort for? These are technical jobs, the professional jobs is the business management. They are the ones discussing the business while others are executing the technical role.

I ask you again, who owns that pharmaceutical industry you claim you work for as a project manager?? Do you earn higher than your employer

mrphysics:


It is visible to the blind that what JOHESU is advocating is not being considered. So an entry level Pharmacist is not even paid up to N170k. But a medical doctor receives that. Secondly, when you do to different states, their pay changes and deviates from JOHESU or whatever.

Go to IT industry and see the price there. Young guys collect N250k. A colleague left to lagos where he is currently being paid N300k. He is a Java developer. That is a salary of a resident doctor that an ordinary B.sc holder collects

You obviously don't know much about the CONHESS salary structure. Entry level pharmacists in public hospitals are placed on CONHESS 9 and that is 170k plus allowances in some cases. Go find out.

If know a pharmacist who owns a community pharmacy, find out his DAILY sales and then do the math and see for yourself what his monthly income stands at.

Thank you!

Jman06:
I ask you again, who owns that pharmaceutical industry you claim you work for as a project manager?? Do you earn higher than your employer

The mistake you are making I think is thinking that it is who owns the business that matters. Let me shock you, it is not a must that a pharmacist will own a pharmaceutical company. It may be some group of stakeholders bro

But in the industry, you have pharmacists and project managers (project team) working there. In this case, the pharmacist is a technical person and don't earn up to the project management team. They are the business guys and they earn higher that's the point I was trying to prove. It is just like saying that a web developer will earn more than the project manager in an IT firm. It doesn't happen that way

Jman06:
You obviously don't know much about the CONHESS salary structure. Entry level pharmacists in public hospitals are placed on CONHESS 9 and that is 170k plus allowances in some cases. Go find out.

If know a pharmacist who owns a community pharmacy, find out his DAILY sales and then do the math and see for yourself what his monthly income stands at.

Thank you!

We are not arguing JOHESU etc, I don't know anything there but I know the salary range. Secondly, we are not talking about people owning some pharmacy stores in the street. We are talking about people working in a firm, a big firm.

Even a level two fiverr seller will earn more than a doctor in 2 weeks . So don't bring the side hustles. Even those in Ogbete Main Market in Enugu selling cloths earn more than most workers in offices. So we must both understand the premises of our discussions.

It's nice discussing with you though

mrphysics:

Your first paragraph isn't necessary. Sorry, my field isn't undermined here, it is only normal for people to question the future seeing the current state of the nation.

I don't want to start analyzing your last post which I replied to, maybe you didn't know it could be understood that way when you wrote it. Your sense of superiority makes you irrelevancies without knowing. Have a good day

Oga Accept that you were wrong, apologize for misunderstanding my post and move on!
What exactly do you want to analyze in my comment? I categorically and clearly spelt it out 3 times that I was referring to the initial post that I replied, to which you replied to. Only for you to come out with some supernatural comprehension, and claiming I was referring to your post. It's either
1)You have selective blindness or
2)Your English is very poor.

Besides where you not the one crying that people on this thread are saying physics graduates are always teachers? Isn't that undermining of the course? If it isn't, why were you complaining?

homesteady:


Oga Accept that you were wrong, apologize for misunderstanding my post and move on!
What exactly do you want to analyze in my comment? I categorically and clearly spelt it out 3 times that I was referring to the initial post that I replied, to which you replied to. Only for you to come out with some supernatural comprehension, and claiming I was referring to your post. It's either
1)You have selective blindness or
2)Your English is very poor.

Besides where you not the one crying that people on this thread are saying physics graduates are always teachers? Isn't that undermining of the course? If it isn't, why were you complaining?

Lol @My English is very poor.

Alright sir, apology for misunderstanding your post.

Jogunomi1:


Lol. You know my school very well. Lautech doesn’t reward hard labor and brilliance. Them fit still frustrate person despite his ingenuity.

My advice for op, struggle to have at least second class upper, pass test of English exam like TOEFL before you graduate and keep searching for foreign scholarship online. For scholarships, you will need toefl and international passport.

Also, if you graduate with high CGPA, companies like banks will still be after you. As a scientist, obtain programming skills too.

Don't make my mistakes. Before going to Lautech, I had received calling into pastoral ministry. So, my aim was just to obtain a degree. I graduated with 2:2. After graduation, I felt I don't want to become a pastor, and I started job hunting. Even private schools rejected me. I'm very good in Physics and Maths but schools say my certificate is not related to education. Poor schools are offering me 15k salary - over my dead body! I have this pastoral gift and God is still talking to me about it. I left my initial church because I felt their doctrines and how the church is run looks like a business enterprise. In my new church, to become a pastor, I must go for Masters in Theology, and I don't have money again. I didn't even have parents while in Lautech. Wellwishers paid my fees. Which Wellwisher will i approach for Masters in theology? That's my fate. A very hopeless situation.

NICE ADVICE FROM A DECENT MAN

KEEP IT UP BRO

mrphysics:

The mistake you are making I think is thinking that it is who owns the business that matters. Let me shock you, it is not a must that a pharmacist will own a pharmaceutical company. It may be some group of stakeholders bro

But in the industry, you have pharmacists and project managers (project team) working there. In this case, the pharmacist is a technical person and don't earn up to the project management team. They are the business guys and they earn higher that's the point I was trying to prove. It is just like saying that a web developer will earn more than the project manager in an IT firm. It doesn't happen that way

Go and find out how pharmaceutical industries work, you obviously have no idea. Let me cite a pharmaceutical industry as an example. In a typical pharmaceutical industry, you have the top management team which comprises the MD(pharmacist and owner), The executive director of operations, E.D.O(a pharmacist), Plant manager (a pharmacist), Research and development manager (a pharmacist), production manager (a pharmacist), Quality assurance manager (a pharmacist or chemist who has extra training in quality assurance), quality control manager (a pharmacist or chemist with sufficient experience in the position, account manager (accountant), marketing manager (a pharmacist with MBA ), engineering manager (an engineer). what i have given you is literally the organogram of a leading pharmaceutical industry where i did my IT last year. Now, there's no such position as project manager there, and even if such position exists, the person is definitely not going to be paid higher than the owner who is a pharmacist. Now can you mention that pharmaceutical manufacturing industry, where the MD is not a pharmacist, or where a project manager earns higher than the MD like you claim??

mrphysics:

We are not arguing JOHESU etc, I don't know anything there but I know the salary range. Secondly, we are not talking about people owning some pharmacy stores in the street. We are talking about people working in a firm, a big firm.

Even a level two fiverr seller will earn more than a doctor in 2 weeks . So don't bring the side hustles. Even those in Ogbete Main Market in Enugu selling cloths earn more than most workers in offices. So we must both understand the premises of our discussions.

It's nice discussing with you though

For your information, all pharmacies you see on the streets are incorporated with the C.A.C and regulated by PCN. Are you even aware that some of them can make extemporaneous formulations there?? Maybe you think it's all about dispensing drugs. They are there practicing their profession and making money in the process so you shouldn't compare them to traders in the market. Perhaps you have not visited a standard pharmacy before.

IamaNigerianGuy:


You have no idea what you are talking about.

LOL really

Jman06:
Go and find out how pharmaceutical industries work, you obviously have no idea. Let me cite a pharmaceutical industry as an example. In a typical pharmaceutical industry, you have the top management team which comprises the MD(pharmacist and owner), The executive director of operations, E.D.O(a pharmacist), Plant manager (a pharmacist), Research and development manager (a pharmacist), production manager (a pharmacist), Quality assurance manager (a pharmacist or chemist who has extra training in quality assurance), quality control manager (a pharmacist or chemist with sufficient experience in the position, account manager (accountant), marketing manager (a pharmacist with MBA ), engineering manager (an engineer). what i have given you is literally the organogram of a leading pharmaceutical industry where i did my IT last year. Now, there's no such position as project manager there, and even if such position exists, the person is definitely not going to be paid higher than the owner who is a pharmacist. Now can you mention that pharmaceutical manufacturing industry, where the MD is not a pharmacist, or where a project manager earns higher than the MD like you claim??

I think you are becoming smart. I see how you outlined the project management roles and then in bracket assigned it to a pharmacist. At this juncture, I can admit you have learned the truth. Next time, you google PMI and see how much it is to get a project management certificate only then you will stop comparing it to a pharmaceutical role.

My advise to you is that you should work harder and come out with good grade (First class or 2:1; 2;2 is not good!).
Subsequently go and pursue a Master in Radiological Physics. There's deart of Radiological Physicist all over the world, Nigeria inclusive.
You'll then work in Medical institutions such as Hospitals, Radio imaging schools, Institute of Medical research as scientist. The pay is goooood.

I chose physics as my second choose curse in 1987 before I was dropped to read a more difficult course called Medicine. For about 25 years now I have been practising medicine and I know how relevant Radiological Physicists are.
I wish you the best of luck.

Radiological Physics is offered by OAU, Ife, osun state, Nigeria.
At a time only Prof. Olomo was teaching all Reside t Doctors undergoing residency training in Radiology and Radiotherapy at both Westafrican College of Surgeons and National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria. He was also visiting Shell, Chevron and LNG in the Niger Delta.
My son go and find out from OAU.
I have the impression you'll do well!

mrphysics:


I think you are becoming smart. I see how you outlined the project management roles and then in bracket assigned it to a pharmacist. At this juncture, I can admit you have learned the truth. Next time, you google PMI and see how much it is to get a project management certificate only then you will stop comparing it to a pharmaceutical role.

Just admit that you didn't how how a pharmaceutical industry is structured. Which project management role did i assign to pharmacists?? All positions i listed up there require a sound knowledge of pharmacy before anyone can handle them well. Is it E.D.O or quality assurance manager Answer me so I can further educate you.

Gerrard59:


In a public university? No.

wat if it is FUTA or UNILORIN??bro dis skuls av fast and uninterupted calender...i am also a part 1 student of OAU,MME(18+)...age is on his syd...age limit for graduate trainee is mostly less dan 26years or 28 for engineering...

salford1:
There are many career paths available for you.
I studied physics as first degree. Depends on your interest. You may work in a consultancy firm, bank, research institutes, engineering firms, investment banking firms etc. I and a lot of my classmates work in the above firm. I work in a government owned engineering firm in Canada. Some of my classmates work/ed for P&G, Pwc, GE, Huawei, Ericsson, Instructors at Universities etc Alot of my seniors work in oil and gas e.g mobil, E and H, schlum, some of my juniors work for hyundai heavy industry, Nigerdock, scholars in the US etc.

In my class, we were only 18 when we graduated out of about 88 students that started. About 5 changed changed to Engineering after 1st year, another 5 changed unis, about 10 changed to social sciences and the rest (88 - 20 - 18) dropped out. It's a tough course so you have to work hard and also try to grad with atleast 2.1.

To work as an engineer though, you would likely need a Masters in Engineering or another Bsc in Engineering.
If you grad with a strong 2.1, above 4 out of 5 cgpa, there is a good chance you would end up in the USA.

how can sum1 chamge frm phy 2 social sciences..d olevel sef dnt correspond..bro smal smal na

[quote author=damseyl post=67349160]secondary school tisa for private school
#20,000 salary[ guy u re correct even me self na sec skul teacher I b bt am into accounting finance and networking