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Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 2:29pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: When an employee who wilfully resigned is compared to a dismissed employee! Yes! Maximus truthfully shot himself in the HEAD |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:31pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: Repent from your lies and become born again. Are you a good person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCSUKIhjevo 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Just ask yourself this question! Is the Apostolic Faith a living Church of God? Because your Daddy SP just said "he was JUSTLY disfellowshiped from the Church" so that's something to ponder about instead of forming a social media evangelist when your destiny is tied to FAILURE! You're the best person ever! "following an excommunicated member of a living Church of God" |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:53pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: Don't obfuscate and obscure the fact that you and your fellow JWs lied when you said that Pastor Kumuyi used to be a JW and that he was disfellowshiped from being a JW. All liars will end up in the lake of fire, either you believe it or not. "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" (Revelation 21:8) You are yet to answer the questions below, don't procrastinate tomorrow may be too late. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCSUKIhjevo 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Mr Cartoonist! OLAADEGBU: |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:14pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: Are you going to answer the question or not, what are you thinking about?
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Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: I'm thinking about your buffoonery Sir! Do you have disciplinary actions in deeperlife? Can you associate with a disfellowshiped member? Is the Apostolic Faith a living Church of God? You answer those three then i'll answer yours too! Matthew 21:23-27 |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:15pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" (Rom 10:13) You mean you are thinking of another lie to tell. Didn't you say Pastor Kumuyi was disfellowshiped in JW? If you get disfellowshiped in JW do you think that is the end of life? It is only God that has that prerogative and neither your organisation nor any man has the right to exclude anyone from the Church of Christ. If anyone is to be excluded it should be cults such as yours that deny the deity of Christ. Argument will not save your soul only Christ will. 1 Like
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Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by alBHAGDADI: 4:58pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: @bold I can see the fruit of the spirit in your Jehovah's False Witness self. |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by alBHAGDADI: 5:00pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: I remember when Maximus69 displayed the fruit of the spirit by lying that Kumuyi was excommunicated from Jehovah's False Witness. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: You've not answered the questions Sir! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: He was excommunicated from a Church that's well recognised in the society. And he himself said 'the Church took the RIGHT action against him' So instead of celebrating on the issue of the name of the Church that dismissed baba, why not investigate to know who ordained a dismissed member of a reputable Church {after all baba himself said THE CHURCH OF GOD DISMISSED HIM JUSTLY} so that he started gathering people for worship! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by achorladey: 10:44pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: Are you really sure about this? 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by achorladey: 10:54pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Yes I do, something for Maximus69 to worry about 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
achorladey: Hmmmmmmmmmmm let me guess! What do you think? If you're to employ HONEST workers for a well paid job and you don't want to be the cause of a story that touches perhaps just in case of the misconduct of an employee. You have the opportunity of knowing the past life and conduct of each applicant. Would you conscientiously attempt employing an applicant who was SACKED as in DISMISSED by a reputable organization that you yourself highly respected and could recommend for their honesty? OK what do you think? If this applicant in question confirmed that he was JUSTLY dismissed, will you out of consideration go ahead and employ him? Well, help me answer your question if i'm not sure of what i said that 'you people love deceit like die' |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by achorladey: 11:10pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: Nicholas Snowden, senior solicitor at Clarkslegal LLP This is quite an unusual situation. The SHORT ANSWER is that there is NO reason in LAW why you cannot RE-EMPLOY a former Employee who has previously been DISMISSED for gross MISCONDUCT. Note: The above answers are taken as a starting point for guidance only. As it seems you are reading but not carefully. Perhaps I should put READERS DISCRETION IS ADVISED. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 11:31pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
achorladey: You're quoting Nicholas Snowden Sir. Instead of quoting the scriptures! God's word ordered an unrepentant sinner to be DISFELLOWSHIP! 1Corinthians 5:13 And the same word admonishes that if the sinner realises his spiritual condition and comes back for help, the congregation should REINSTATE him. James 5:14-15 But baba was excommunicated since the 1970s, he left and started gathering people to form his own Church only to come and tell everyone now that the Church that dismissed him did what ought to be done! So who ordained baba? How did he become a Pastor? Haba, these questions aren't that difficult to answer nah! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by achorladey: 11:38pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
Maximus69: Maximus69: You're quoting Nicholas Snowden Sir. Instead of quoting the scriptures! Achorladey: You are only reading but not READING carefully. #DISMISSED#SACKED# THEN the MERRY GO ROUND STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN. The last question says a lot about this MERRY GO ROUND 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 11:50pm On Jul 31, 2019 |
achorladey: So all you're saying is even though baba was JUSTLY excommunicated, so far he has succeeded in his Church {business} venture, he is equally qualified to own his own Church since the ENDS justifies the MEANS. RIGHT? [b]You love deceit like die! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by alBHAGDADI: 3:31am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69: Why not tell us who ordained Charles Taze Russel who was a former member of another church before becoming JW founder. Or is the fruitage of the spirit preventing you from telling us? 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 9:33am On Aug 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Unlike your dismissed founder who admitted that he was JUSTLY excommunicated from a living Church of the same God that he is still worshipping till date! Russell did a lot of research with his friends and discovered that Jesus' teaching supposed to unite all his followers as one happy global family of peace-loving worshippers. So they attended several Churches as they were going to one after another to introduce what they discovered, but the established religions finds it difficult to amend their tradition. That's why they began taking it to individuals who wholeheartedly accepted it until the organization grew up to 8.5 million members of a happy global family of peace-loving worshippers TODAY! John 17:20-23 So to answer your question : Who ordained Russell? Jesus answered that question saying 'BY THEIR FRUIT' Matthew 7:15-20 What Russell and his team began over 150 years ago have yielded positive fruits as the world now have a group claiming Christians amongst whom there is NO politicians{greedy rulers} nor armed racists{military men killing people who are not of their race}! This was exactly what Jesus prayed for the night before his arrest and execution! John 17:20-23 compared to Isaiah 2:2-4 So let anyone judge for themselves by answering your question "Who ordained the man {Russell}that initiated this group back then?" Matthew 21:23-27 God bless you all! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by alBHAGDADI: 10:13am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69: Once again, who ordained Russel? That's the answer you should have given instead of this lecture on how he became a false prophet giving birth to lying fruits like you. |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 10:29am On Aug 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: On the wall, my friend! The answer is to your question is WRITTEN ON THE WALL! Matthew 21:23-27 |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by alBHAGDADI: 10:47am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69: I asked you to tell us who ordained your Charles Taze Russel, instead you gave me Mathew 21:23-27 as evidence that he doesn't need anyone to ordain him. Are you so hypocritically foolish that you do not know that same thing can be applied to Kumuyi? How you guys think the world can't see your hypocrisy is what baffles me Matthew 21:23-27 King James Version (KJV) And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority? And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him? But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet. And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things. |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 10:58am On Aug 01, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: You can continue crying in pains for all i care Sir! Kumuyi's statement declared him FAKE when he said he was JUSTLY excommunicated from a living Church of God! So it's either the Church that excommunicated him is FAKE which could be the reason why they sent him out as a teacher of the truth or he is FAKE to have been dismissed from amongst God's people! Just choose one Sir! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by jcross19: 11:31am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69:for that 40years he prospered in the vineyard of God meaning the grace of God abide with him! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by jcross19: 11:33am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69:you are not in position to judge any one sire!!!!! unless you are not a Christian! even Luther king was excommunicated many times before he left Catholic church and started his Protestant ministry so maybe that's how God wanted for him. |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 11:46am On Aug 01, 2019 |
jcross19: This is not about Judgement Sir! It's about a dismissed member of a reputable Church of God who confirmed that he was JUSTLY excommunicated! This led to thought provoking questions such as ¤If he was JUST excommunicated, then when was he reinstated? ¤Who should apologize to the other, the Church that JUSTLY dismissed him or himself the one disfellowshiped? ¤How did he became a pastor if the church that supposed to ordain him JUSTLY dismissed him and he never went back to be reinstated? Please Sir there's no reason to be overly emotional on this matter, let's call a spade a spade! Luther King was excommunicated and till today, the Catholic Church remains with that blemish for the action taken against him. But this case is totally different, as the one excommunicated publicly declared the action taken against him was JUST! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by jcross19: 11:54am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69:You are a man and you can never determine the mind of God ! God might allowed such scenario to happen so that God Himself can have another breed of Christians and God succeeded in doing ! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by jcross19: 11:58am On Aug 01, 2019 |
Maximus69:you need nobody to ordain you before to you Shepherd a sheep ! ordination come from God ! Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Elijah, even moses were not ordained by man but still they spoke the mind of God. |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 12:01pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
jcross19: It's OK let's agree on the bolded for now! Though from my own personal understanding of the scriptures, it's a totally wrong idea! But warn baba Kumuyi and all his followers to accept any body who claims to be a Christian no matter how he started his Church or how they practice their own BREED of Christianity! |
Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by Nobody: 12:11pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
jcross19: That was the arrangement of choosing a prophet and directing them before the establishment of Christianity! Hebrews 1:1 But when Christianity began, there's a group that must ordain you before you can become a preacher of the gospel of Christ. Otherwise you're dividing the Church of God! So it's better if you're excommunicated wrongly so that God condemns those who falsely dismissed you and made you his servant to correct what's going wrong. But for someone to be JUSTLY excommunicated based on the tenets of the living Church of God, then God will now choose the rebel to start yet another Church all in the name of the same God is totally complicating Sir! HE is NOT a God of disorder Sir! 1Corinthians 14:33 |
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