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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 2:36pm On May 31, 2020
Investnow2017:


Are you aware that Abraham entertained angels in his day? He even cooked for them and they ate food. Are angels not spirit creatures? They are. But when they put on human body they act as humans. Read please Genesis chapters 18 and 19.
Apostle Peter said categorically that Jesus Christ was resurrected as a spirit person. Read please 1st Peter chapter 3:18. That Bible portion says that Christ was killed as a flesh but was resurrected as a spirit. That was why he could manifest or materialize and dematerialize. Spirits materialize when they take on human form, but can dematerialize to assume their spirit form. In this way, after his resurrection Jesus could enter into a room with all doors closed, as he did severally after his resurrection. So Jesus put on his human life as a pierced person to convince Thomas. If it was his real human body, there is no way the injury would have healed in just three days. Could it?
Why was the body not found when his disciples got to the tomb? The Bible had already prophesied that that Jesus perfect body will not get rotten - because it was a perfect body. Read Psalm 16:10. Not even one of his bones was broken when he was executed. All that to fulfill that prophecy.
Yes, there is a spirit body and there is a human body often referred to as flesh. Since our human eyes are limited, it cannot see a spirit body, hence spirits will have to materialize so that we can see them, as often did the angels of God in ancient time.
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Truth is you can argue all day or you can open up to the truth.

I'll point you to verses that undisputably point to Jesus rising in flesh.



And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Touch Me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet (Luke 24:38-40).


Understand that he said, "for a spirit does not have flesh or bones"

That verse would have been enough to quench this conversation but no, you will try and come up with anything to support your believe.


So the Jews said to Him, “What sign do You show us for doing these things?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” But He was speaking about the temple of His body. (John 2:18-21)

Noticed he said, destroy this temple. And I'll raise it up again in three days. Temple here meaning the physical body of Christ.



And while they still disbelieved for joy and were marveling, He said to them, ’Have you anything here to eat?’ They gave Him a piece of broiled fish, and He took it and ate before them” (Luke 24:41-43)

He ate to prove to them that he was with them physically and of course spiritually

Jesus went to extra length to prove this point. Because he knew people would come someday to try and prove that the resurrection was only spiritual.

Again, he said, "touch me and see. For spirits do not have flesh and bone"
Unless if Jesus was deceiving the apostles by making them believe he resurrected physically when it was spiritual.

One thing you cannot argue with here is that Jesus was making effort to prove to the apostles that he resurrected physically.

The burden of false interpretation is on you and your organization

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 2:36pm On May 31, 2020
Sultty:
only when I need to, but heck no I'm not a backstabber. If Jehovah witnesses ideologie were followed ehn there will be an end to humanity/world war

no one will fight the world war if we all becomes Jehovah witnesses

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by wisewordd: 2:37pm On May 31, 2020
mitchyy:


We cannot stop because it was a command given to all Christians by Jesus in Matthew 24:14. Its a God-given command we must obey. Meanwhile, we do not force people to listen but rather respect people's wish if they don't want to listen.
By "all Christians" you mean Jehovah witness? Because you don't see others as Christians.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by atoleybaba(m): 2:38pm On May 31, 2020
wisewordd:
My point is, you know you're not perfect, then stop condemning other people's practice. Don't give what you won't take. Stop doing what you say others are doing wrong and hide in the name of "nobody is perfect" that's Hippocratic. If I invite you to my church and you don't come, don't invite me to yours. If I can't come to preach to you at your house, don't come to mine. You guys should just marry yourself and grow your population. Stop trying to give people what you won't take.
when jw knock on ur door...dy don't tell u to come and become a witness nooo. They tell you what dy have learnt in the bible and what dy think u will love to know....now in the course of studying the bible with them, they may invite u to so u can witness first hand how dy worship

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by PiccoloBrunelli(m): 2:38pm On May 31, 2020
Sergioaguero:
Try to compare this chapter and verse from common jehova withness bible, you wont find this verse like this

1 John 5:7-8

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Good afternoon Sir.

This is how the American Standard Version puts it

7 And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 8 For there are three who bear witness, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and the three agree in one.

So it not only the New World Translation that doesn't seem to match this. Would you like to discuss privately about this? I'll be pleased Sir. Thanks.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by ajebuter(f): 2:39pm On May 31, 2020
post=90151363:
We are all ONE in the Body of Christ.

End of Story.

JESUS IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER



YES!
Very Good ones at that.

Thank you Bro..

Yes we are..

Proudly JW.... ;

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by wisewordd: 2:40pm On May 31, 2020
atoleybaba:
when jw knock on ur door...dy don't tell u to come and become a witness nooo. They tell you what dy have learnt in the bible and what dy think u will love to know....now in the course of studying the bible with them, they may invite u to so u can witness first hand how dy worship
If I invite them to mine too, would they come?

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 2:41pm On May 31, 2020
Lostz:


I always use the internet. but working from house to house is not easy for some of us

Have honestly prayed about it? Let God know how you feel about it. Ask for suggestions if you are sincere. A lot of us that enjoy the house to house preaching today once felt like that. But today we can't stay without doing it whether or not people listen.
Are you ashamed? Probe yourself, there must be a reason you don't like it. Romans chapter one and ten makes us know that that is one way we can demonstrate that our faith is alive. Romans 1: 16, and Romans 10:10-15
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Futurejoy(f): 2:41pm On May 31, 2020
Narijoel:

grin grin grin
Go and catch cruise with your ignorant self. Mumu. Since stupidity looks good on me, then you can as well put foolishness on because it your size.
Mind you, A conversation is as good as dead when there is no feedback.
A jobless troll like you don't deserve a feedback from me and you would not get it again.
grin grin
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Elimon(m): 2:41pm On May 31, 2020
luap1990:
Why don't you guys marry outside your church but your members have sexual intercourse with non members.

We, Jehovah's witnesses respect the sanity of marriage and work hard to marry those who share our faiths, believes and traditions. We're not imperfect minds, who do all our utmost to keep relationship with our creator.
I live next door to Jehovah's witnesses and when i became close to them...i realised we all are just erroneous Human beings living under the fanatics of religion...I realised they commit atrocities like any other people...i even have one that is beefing me till today..but goes out every Sunday to SPREAD THE GOSPEL!
THE REAL RELIGION IS MORALITY...JUST BE MORALITY RIGHT AND I DONT CARE WHAT U BOW TO!

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 2:42pm On May 31, 2020
wisewordd:
You're contradicting yourself. You're judging other churches by saying they worship idols and pictures, and you're trying to preach to them to join you because you feel you're doing the right thing. Me too I don't want to listen, don't come knocking.

did anyone come to your house to personally tell you to stop worshipping idols? did anyone accused you of anything?

listen, the preaching work is legal both in the eyes of God and government. when they come knocking, just tell them you don't want to listen.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by luap1990(m): 2:42pm On May 31, 2020
Kingpele:
grin well I don't judge anyone belief, God alone is the judge but I strongly disagree with most of thier beliefs, this is why Jesus said u shall know the truth and it will set u free, Jesus could not have used the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in hell fire if hell fire is not real, anyone that know Jesus is the only one who will understand that Jesus does not joke with words, all his parable is based on reality either of things we could see or the things we can't see... I won't allow a white man whom Satan had decieved to make me believe that sinful souls won't end up in hell... Just imagine if u die only to realized u were decieved... Jesus is the truth and life forever

You can the account again, it's a parable not a real life experience. A parable is a fictional story meant to teach moral lesson. The characters are symbols. Lazarus represents the downtrodden and common Jews class while the Pharisees and scribes are well represented with the rich man behaviour.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Dayoebe(m): 2:43pm On May 31, 2020
sacajawea:
Why that one they pain you? Na so you like Nigeria reach?
Nigeria na my country now. Pending the time I finally japa, am still loyal
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by joyandfaith: 2:44pm On May 31, 2020
1Sharon:


Ate you for real?

Although the U.S. blood supply is safer than ever before, some bacteria, viruses, prions, and parasites can be transmitted by blood transfusions.
for more info
https://www.cdc.gov/bloodsafety/basics.html


https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/blood-safety-and-availability

https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/blood-donation-process/what-happens-to-donated-blood/blood-transfusions/risks-complications.html

if blood is really safe as you claim, why do u think doctors ask patients or relatives to sign consent form?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by joyandfaith: 2:45pm On May 31, 2020
wisewordd:
See this one. I'm sure if we check well you'll be found wanting. You guys are the greatest hippocrates I've seen so far.

it is ok, continue
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 2:45pm On May 31, 2020
IamAsiri:


What do YOU think?


Okay. What did he mean?
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by IamAsiri: 2:46pm On May 31, 2020
Lostz:


maybe you should read verse 10 and 11 of that same chapter. you can also consider verse 22

You really need to understand the whole of 1 Corinthians 14. And remember that letter killeth (2 Corinthians 3:6). Ask the Holy Spirit to interpret these words into your heart while you are reading it again.

I am not going to make any more contribution. Thanks cool
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by rosalieene(f): 2:46pm On May 31, 2020
My major concern about Jehovah witness people is that they feel like they are the only true worshippers of God and following biblical teachings while other churches are not.
they also dont believe in prophecy etc

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Investnow2017: 2:46pm On May 31, 2020
justli:



Truth is you can argue all day or you can open up to the truth.

I'll point you to verses that undisputably point to Jesus rising in flesh.



And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Touch Me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet (Luke 24:38-40).


Understand that he said, "for a spirit does not have flesh or bones"

That verse would have been enough to quench this conversation but no, you will try and come up with anything to support your believe.


So the Jews said to Him, “What sign do You show us for doing these things?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” But He was speaking about the temple of His body. (John 2:18-21)

Noticed he said, destroy this temple. And I'll raise it up again in three days. Temple here meaning the physical body of Christ.



And while they still disbelieved for joy and were marveling, He said to them, ’Have you anything here to eat?’ They gave Him a piece of broiled fish, and He took it and ate before them” (Luke 24:41-43)

He ate to prove to them that he was with them physically and of course spiritually

Jesus went to extra length to prove this point. Because he knew people would come someday to try and prove that the resurrection was only spiritual.

Again, he said, "touch me and see. For spirits do not have flesh and bone"
Unless if Jesus was deceiving the apostles by making them believe he resurrected physically when it was spiritual.

One thing you cannot argue with here is that Jesus was making effort to prove to the apostles that he resurrected physically.

The burden of false interpretation is on you and your organization

How did he now go back to heaven? Physically? What Jesus said to Thomas that a spirit does not have flesh and blood substantiate what I have earlier said. You are not getting something clear here. A spirit is a higher form of life. While a spirit can materialize and take on human form, a human flesh cannot turn into a spirit.
So the scriptures you have cited corroborate my point. If he resurrected as a physical human how was he able to ascend to heaven?
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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by mitchyy(f): 2:48pm On May 31, 2020
wisewordd:
By "all Christians" you mean Jehovah witness? Because you don't see others as Christians.

We follow the Bible’s advice to “respect everyone”, regardless of their religious beliefs. (1 Peter 2:17)

That is why we avoid pressuring people to become one of us. These are the reasons:

Jesus never pressured people to accept his teachings. He knew that relatively few would respond to his message.

Jesus taught his followers not to push others to change their beliefs. Instead of trying to force people to accept the good news of the Kingdom against their will, his disciples were to look for listeners who were receptive.
This is why we don't force our message or anyone.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by WINDSOW(m): 2:50pm On May 31, 2020
Narijoel:

Stop typing nonsense and identify your religious group. Don't come here to bark and accuse JWs of hypocrisy while hiding behind the keypad.
Saintly Hypocrite
You dont need know the Faith I belong. Tell your religious head that I said y'all hypocrites! Go tell him, I sent u. Perfect n hypocritical gathering of saints.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Narijoel(m): 2:50pm On May 31, 2020
Elimon:

I live next door to Jehovah's witnesses and when i became close to them...i realised we all are just erroneous Human beings living under the fanatics of religion...I realised they commit atrocities like any other people...i even have one that is beefing me till today..but goes out every Sunday to SPREAD THE GOSPEL!
THE REAL RELIGION IS MORALITY...JUST BE MORALITY RIGHT AND I DONT CARE WHAT U BOW TO!
Hmm, Actrocities is a strong word by definition, just say you realized that they are just normal people living their lives, also sinners who are able to make mistakes.
But be assured that Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization do not condole willful practice of sin, when one is discovered among them, they are quick to take action and correct matters, preserving the sanctity of the organization.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by luap1990(m): 2:52pm On May 31, 2020
Royalfurnitures:
Most of their girls will tell you they can't marry non witnesses yet they still sleep with them


Beautify your homes with our quality and durable furniture collections today
Even if I would be contemplating business matters with you. With this your baseless and false accusations, I consider it cancelled. What business has to do with religion? And does sentiment comes to marketing? Sometimes, if you dead brain, you remain silent so that other can think you're a shrewd person. It's a lesson you can never get from business school, don't take it personal. Good afternoon.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by mindtricks: 2:53pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:
(c) All rights reserved.
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Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in heaven.
Apparently, this is not a new saying as people tend to say what they might have heard about the Witnesses not scrutinizing them whether or not they are truth.

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Truth: Jehovah's Witnesses believe in heaven as the residence of the Creator of the Universe.
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2. Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in hell.
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Truth: This is where people misunderstand themselves. Jehovah's Witnesses believe 'Hell' is the common grave of mankind. Witnesses do not believe in 'hell fire' as it is unbiblical, unless you'll show me where the original sinners -- Adam and Eve -- went to 'hell fire.'
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3.
Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not celebrate anything.
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Truth: If you mean holidays like birthdays, Christmas etc., of course yes. Think: what is the relevance of Santa Claus in the bible? Do they or not have pagan origins? In fact, Witnesses commemorate the Death of Jesus as Jesus asked his disciples to do.
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4. Myth: Jehovah's Witness do not speak in tongues.
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Truth: Well, Jehovah's Witnesses speak many languages as they come from differing lands but do not involve in the ecstatic speaking performed today by religious leaders. The first century Christians who received the gift used it to preach to people (as the early congregants were filled with people from many lands), so they spoke a language and all who heard understood. Note: To preach. Is that what is done today? Don't throw caution to the wind.

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5. Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not do blood transfusions and are wicked to see their loved one die.
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Truth: Witnesses put much faith in doing God's will. Sorry to disappoint you, they love their children and loved ones. In fact, medical practitioners agree that it is not safe either, and no guarantee of living well or surviving as no blood samples really match another. Besides, there are other non-blood media. Coming to think of it, Witnesses put faith in the resurrection. Yes, so why worry of this wicked world?
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Have more questions? Visit www.jw.org or simply ask them here constructively.


Hmm. So many controversies.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Hoodgod(m): 2:53pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:

Not this one.
not this one,oga go and eat boil beans and egg.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 31, 2020
IamAsiri:


You really need to understand the whole of 1 Corinthians 14. And remember that letter killeth (2 Corinthians 3:6). Ask the Holy Spirit to interpret these words into your heart while you are reading it again.

I am not going to make any more contribution. Thanks cool

from that verse 10, 11 , is speaking in tongues just uttering meaningless words or speaking in other people's tongues?


have you asked urself if there are any group of people on earth speaking that same meaningless language you uttered when speaking in tongues?
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by wisewordd: 2:53pm On May 31, 2020
mitchyy:


We follow the Bible’s advice to “respect everyone”, regardless of their religious beliefs. (1 Peter 2:17)

That is why we avoid pressuring people to become one of us. These are the reasons:

Jesus never pressured people to accept his teachings. He knew that relatively few would respond to his message.

Jesus taught his followers not to push others to change their beliefs. Instead of trying to force people to accept the good news of the Kingdom against their will, his disciples were to look for listeners who were receptive.
This is why we don't force our message or anyone.
You don't respect them, you judge them by calling them idol and pictures worshippers. That's not respect. And trust me, you do pressure people. I have first hand experience.

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by frankblinkz(m): 2:54pm On May 31, 2020
mitchyy:


We do not engage in such showy display of one's means of life. That is why i explained how we make our contributions.
That's cool,i wish other churches will adopt ur method of offerings..am nt JW but i believe in sacred giving too.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Endymi: 2:54pm On May 31, 2020
chatinent:
(c) All rights reserved.
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1.
Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in heaven.
Apparently, this is not a new saying as people tend to say what they might have heard about the Witnesses not scrutinizing them whether or not they are truth.
Fallacy!

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Truth: Jehovah's Witnesses believe in heaven as the residence of the Creator of the Universe.
.
2. Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in hell.
.
Truth: This is where people misunderstand themselves. Jehovah's Witnesses believe 'Hell' is the common grave of mankind. Witnesses do not believe in 'hell fire' as it is unbiblical, unless you'll show me where the original sinners -- Adam and Eve -- went to 'hell fire.'
.
3.
Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not celebrate anything.
.
Truth: If you mean holidays like birthdays, Christmas etc., of course yes. Think: what is the relevance of Santa Claus in the bible? Do they or not have pagan origins? In fact, Witnesses commemorate the Death of Jesus as Jesus asked his disciples to do.
.
4. Myth: Jehovah's Witness do not speak in tongues.
.
Truth: Well, Jehovah's Witnesses speak many languages as they come from differing lands but do not involve in the ecstatic speaking performed today by religious leaders. The first century Christians who received the gift used it to preach to people (as the early congregants were filled with people from many lands), so they spoke a language and all who heard understood. Note: To preach. Is that what is done today? Don't throw caution to the wind.

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5. Myth: Jehovah's Witnesses do not do blood transfusions and are wicked to see their loved one die.
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Truth: Witnesses put much faith in doing God's will. Sorry to disappoint you, they love their children and loved ones. In fact, medical practitioners agree that it is not safe either, and no guarantee of living well or surviving as no blood samples really match another. Besides, there are other non-blood media. Coming to think of it, Witnesses put faith in the resurrection. Yes, so why worry of this wicked world?
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Have more questions? Visit www.jw.org or simply ask them here constructively.
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by justli: 2:55pm On May 31, 2020
Just in case anybody wonders why jw would go to any length to deny that Jesus resurrected in body,

The Bible teaches that Jesus is the first born.

And he is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation (Colossians 1:15).

But jw laying claim to Jesus been the first created supports their teaching with this verse and would go to any length to defend this.
But here is what the Bible says:


will also appoint him my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth (Psalm 89:27).
Was David the first born or the first king? No. But in order of preeminence, God sees David as first king amongst kings



And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth (Revelation 1:5).

But Revelation tells us what "Jesus as the first born means"

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Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by mitchyy(f): 2:55pm On May 31, 2020
rosalieene:
My major concern about Jehovah witness people is that they feel like they are the only true worshippers of God and following biblical teachings while other churches are not.
they also dont believe in prophecy etc

Those who are serious about religion should think that the one they’ve chosen is acceptable to Jehovah and Jesus. Otherwise, why would they be involved in it?

Jesus Christ didn’t agree with the view that there are many religions, many roads, all leading to salvation. Rather, he said: “Narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.” (Matthew 7:14) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that they’ve found that road. Otherwise, they’d look for another religion. We do not condemn other people's religion but peacefully practice ours
Re: Five (5) Misconceptions About Jehovah's Witnesses. by mindtricks: 2:55pm On May 31, 2020
luap1990:
Even if I would be contemplating business matters with you. With this your baseless and false accusations, I consider it cancelled. What business has to do with religion? And does sentiment comes to marketing? Sometimes, if you dead brain, you remain silent so that other can think you're a shrewd person. It's a lesson you can never get from business school, don't take it personal. Good afternoon.

Not cool.
You could have made your point without using abusive words. Makes him better than you.

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