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Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 6:45am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: lolololol.....of course, you cant say it here because you have nothing. there are a billion people in china. any geometric progression with a common ration of 2 will give you at least 2 billion people. By your geometric progression, China would reach 2 billion people at least in the next sequence. Epic fail. Youn thought that because you had the support of Ihedobi and Vedaxcool that you were right |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by vedaxcool(m): 7:10am On Sep 08, 2012 |
^ Mumu china have a one child policy and deliberate policy to control population |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by vedaxcool(m): 7:16am On Sep 08, 2012 |
China has still witness massive population growth, see table on this page. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MrAnony1(m): 7:35am On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01:Wow, your idiocy really is something! I have said it here over and over again but since you can't think properly behind a keyboard, perhaps a face to face encounter will help you. The sad part is of the three of us, I am actually the sympathetic one. ihedinobi and Vedaxcool are just happy to mock your foolishness. I would rightfully join them but I pity you too much. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 7:42am On Sep 08, 2012 |
@MacDaddy Do you realize that all anyone has to do in argument to bury you is hand you logic? You grab it and use it like a spade to dig a massive pit to bury yourself in. Look at the GP issue. Didn't you see that Death and Natural Disasters were valid assumptions? Did you also ignore the fact that Mr Anony made those assumptions? Let me go one step further to say that a worldwide ten-month long flood pretty much allowed a resetting of the biological clock so that there are less people in the world today than there would've been if Noah's family of eight had not become the new base. Even in that you have to also take notice of drastic reductions in life span. Make I tell you, if you're atheism's apostle, atheism is an intellectually bankrupt position and a haven for id.iots. Good morning, sir fool P.S. That flood was nearly two thousand years from Adam too, so it didn't wipe off a small population. Bear that in mind. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 7:42am On Sep 08, 2012 |
vedaxcool: ^ Ode? Did I make any prediction with chinas population? I was showing the problem with Anony's maths. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 7:48am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: @MacDaddy Huh? lollolol These people are real idiots. Factor in death or natural disasters or one child policy, a geometric progression can not work. Anony is using miles to calculate human height. china = a billion people geometric progression of common ratio of 2 or more would lead you to an absurd number of at least 2 billion in the next sequence. Anony is wrong. Simple. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 7:48am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: lol...you peeps are getting unhinged |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 8:21am On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Ok, let's give you benefit of the doubt again. How is he wrong? Does he make any invalid assumptions? What are they? Does he contradict logic? In what way? |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MrAnony1(m): 8:29am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi:Dude, you are assuming logicboy actually has a developed brain. That's the invalid assumption I made. His problem is that he has already predetermined that the numbers must be small so every math he does is aimed at achieving a small number. I am sorry to say this, but it is becoming ever more glaring to me that macdaddy is really a blockhead. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 8:37am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: I used an arithmetic progression. My assumptions can be criticised but the measure is practical. If there is an x amount of number that gets added to the human population each generation then we can get the total number at any nth generation. Now, in reality, this number can not be constant, so we take an average number and keep it constant. The Arithmetic progression is simple and practical. Anony's method will result in failure no matter what. A geometric progression rises at a rate too fast for the growth of a human population. You wont notice it at first since we are starting from 2 people but when the base gets higher, you will notice. Assuming you want to predict the growth of Nigeria with a geometric progression and assume that the Nigerian population will double every ten years; Naija pop= 200 million people common ratio (growth rate) = 2 In 40 years (4th sequence) a4 = 200m * 24-1 = 800 million people. How is that possible? Does anyone believe that Nigeria will reach 800 million in forty years? Now Anony can spin this and claim that we should account for death. even if 10 million die every year, we would sill have 400 million people left. Will Nigeria realistically reach the 400 million mark in 40 years? Also; A geometric progression results in very high numbers always. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 8:40am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: lol...you were debunked above |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 9:55am On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: You know what? I don't wanna beat you up anymore. This has been one-sided for too long. So, I'll come back later and leave links for you to check out with respect to the math involved in population growth studies. I'm too busy to hunt them up for you. I'll do it later, I promise. It'll probably be a lil bit of hard work because I only surf with my phone. I probably won't be able to open some good links. But if the excerpts make enough sense, I'll bring the links here. Later, dude. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 10:02am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: Why are you sorry, bro? I think that your fear to go all out and let the Lord take care of the inner workings of your listener's or reader's heart is costing you very good perspective. It takes enormous bone-headedness to be an atheist. That's what our job in debate with atheists is to show. When we have exposed the intellectual bankruptcy and moral poverty of that position, the Lord will take care of the rest. The heart of the king is in the Hands of the Lord, He turns it whichever way He pleases. I am not bothering to assume intellectual capability on any atheist's part. If they dare to claim it, then I will press them to prove it till the lie in their claim becomes clear as day. I will treat all men according to their claim to prove them. When they fail, then they come to the valley of decision: Perfect Christ or my totally inadequate self. Consider whether that is not what we are called to, my brother. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 10:07am On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: I used basic maths. I am not a scoioligist or a scientist. You dont have any links. After being debunked you want to shift the topic to what scientists actually use. You want more time to search google for a way to debunk me? There might be better methods that I do not know about. However, Anony's method is a fail from the start. I want everybody to notice that I ave always been upfront about my limits but has Anony and Ihedinobi ever mentioned their limit? Have they even bothered to see the reason why people see the Adamic theory as factually wrong? I rest my case. Logicboy is too much |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 12:49pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Pathetic. Na laziness and stupidity de worry you. Neither Anony nor I have used anything other than basic science and philosophy to deal with you in this discussion. You keep harping on Anony's gp as having been debunked by you, but you couldn't see that your mathematical model kept human population at a constant number infinitely and was therefore absurd. You also couldn't see that assuming wars, famines, natural disasters like earthquakes, floods and volcanoes, disease epidemics and natural death, all of them very valid and observable assumptions, by the way, the gp's seemingly absurd numbers made perfect sense. I offered to do your research for you to show you that you didn't learn your secondary school math well. Do you know any advanced research that does not build on basic science? Believe me, your idiocy has a very pungent stench. And I'm not even insulting you. I'm just describing you. I've done the research and will give you three websites presently to help you learn if you think you can manage it. www.ifpops.org en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_dynamics www.sosmath.com/diffeq/first/application/population/population.html Try to keep your nine tenths dead brains on while you read them, good sir fool wey too much |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 1:16pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: Thank you for your links. The rest of your comment is just BS. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 1:38pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: You're welcome......even for the rest of my comment lol |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 1:41pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Just read your links. Your first link agrees with me. The link says thatin 38 years we would add 2.4 billion people in the next 38 years and that the usa will add 100 million in 40 years. So lets see the progression a) World population total world population = 7 billion Ihedinobi's link's projection for 38 years = 9.4 billion (7b + 2.4b) Total world population in 1974 (38 years ago) = 4 billion 4,7,9.4. That is an Arithmetic progression. However it is a generalized arithmetic progression (differences of 3 and 2.4). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population http://www.ifpops.org/ [size=18pt]Logicboy aka Macdaddy was right [/size] |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 1:53pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Just read your links. Your first link agrees with me. The link says thatin 38 years we would add 2.4 billion people in the next 38 years and that the usa will add 100 million in 40 years. Ok, if it helps you sleep, good sir I mean, the links are right there in the sun, no? No need to get into a treatise about them. If you're right, you are right. If you're not, you're not. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 1:55pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: lololololol......is that all you can say? Debunking is just too sweet! |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MrAnony1(m): 1:59pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Just read your links. Your first link agrees with me. The link says thatin 38 years we would add 2.4 billion people in the next 38 years and that the usa will add 100 million in 40 years.Really? How about 38 years before 1974? According to your arithmetic, there would have been 4 - 2.4 (billion) = 1.6 bllion people in 1936 ....and how about 38 years before 1936? there would have been nobody existing by then (or -ve0.8 billion people or maybe human beings were not yet existing in 1898?) so here's the full sequence according to your arithmetic progression .....-0.8, 1.6, 4, 7, 9.4..... [size=14pt]Illogicboy a.k.a. Macdaddy is wrong![/size] |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 2:23pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: Epic fail!! Just admit that you were wrong! There could be several differences in a generalized or multiple arithmetic progression (not just limited to the difference of 2.4 and 3) You foolishly assumed that it was limited to 2.4 and 3 The fail is strong with anony! |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MrAnony1(m): 2:40pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01:the problem is not with your numbers, the problem is with your method....but then of course, I wasn't expecting wisdom to magically come upon you......I leave you to your burden, you are welcome to the last word. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 2:47pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Mr_Anony: You know why I ignored the fool? Because right in the article that he's rejoicing over is the statement that the exponential progression method is the ideal method used for population dynamics calculations. Every method developed is a spin-off of it. The fool would obviously miss that, but not the smart people who wanna know the truth. You just made his failure obvious. I'm pitying the guy because he's been taking one hell of a beating since yesterday at least, or was it since the day before? I've been having so much fun that I forgot how long he's been the butt of it. Everytime he talks, he just buries himself deeper in illogic. He needs very little help doing so lol |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 2:47pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Double post |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 3:34pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 5:14pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: Everybody, please witness the liar called Ihednobi. He was supporting Anony's geometric progression and now he is claiming that he researched and knew that the method to calculate human population is exponential progression method. I clearly said that there might be better methods to calculate human growth. I acknowledged my limit and argued why my method was far better than Anony's. Thank you and well done guys. Your lies and dishonesty are just too much |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 5:37pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Good God! Please tell me that you did not just insinuate that geometric progression and exponential progression are not the same! You did go to secondary school, right? Please, don't insult your parents' effort to make half a human brain out of that bone your neck supports. Na wa o!!! |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by MacDaddy01: 7:27pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
Ihedinobi: Pls quote where I insinuated that geometric and exponential are d same. Liar |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by Nobody: 8:04pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Look, MacDaddy, do you even know what has happened over the past two days? I won't be answering you again. So, I'll explain to you what has happened. You challenged the God and Owner of Heaven and Earth to a test of Intelligences. And you proved incredibly foolish and abominably ignorant before His Wisdom. You dared to say that you had a better formula for creation and came up empty when the formula was demanded of you. You insist that you are wiser than the God of the Bible, the Fountain of all Knowledge, and have since you were put to the test been pleading ignorance. You have been shown for the fraud that you are. Whether you accept that or not is up to you and will decide whether things begin to get better and turn around for you. You are a tin god. You are nothing but empty air. You are worth far less than the space you take up. You cannot even keep your head up in a debate involving basic science about issues you claim understanding in. But even though you are a nothing, even though you are a joke, even though you have dared the God Who made you, you are loved. The One against Whom you raise your voice not only spares you but calls you. He has borne your pain and disgrace. He has taken all that is rightly due you so that you can be free of the suffocating burden of yourself and live in His Freedom. He offers a new, opened and unrestricted intellect to you. He offers true moral freedom to you. He offers true peace to you. He offers true fellowship to you. He calls you to Freedom, not to Bondage and Rules. He calls you to Life, not mere existence. And He calls you by name, MacDaddy, for He knows you and knows where you live. Hell is not His offer to you and He does not ask you to escape it either. He tells you to taste and see that He is good. Hell is where you are right now, not merely where you're going. It is not where you will end up that is the beginning of the Gospel but where you are today. You can know total release today. It need not wait. He calls you today. Your name's Phillip, right? I am asking nothing more of you than to prove practically and experientially for yourself whether Jesus Christ is good or not. Let go this heavy weight that is crushing you and driving you to attack the One Who sustains you in spite of your enmity against Him. Come home. Your Father awaits you. |
Re: In Defence Of Logicboy by cyrexx: 8:08pm On Sep 08, 2012 |
^^^
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