M. You Christians believe in three Gods; Father,
Mother, and Son.
C. What makes you say that?
M. Everyone knows that. You call it the Trinity.
C. Yes, you are right that we believe in the
Trinity, but it is not what you think. I know
that this is what most Muslims understand.
M. So explain to me what you understand.
C. First of all I want to tell you that the Trinity
is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Secondly I’d
like you to read this verse with me from the
Bible. God told Moses in the Torah to tell
God’s people these words:
M. “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the
LORD is one.” (Deuteronomy 6:4)
C. Yes, that’s right. This is one of the books of
the Torah. There is no question that the Bible
teaches that there is one God. Read also
Exodus 20:3.
M. “You shall have no other gods before me.”
C. What do you think?
M. Well, I did not know this is in the Bible.
This sounds just like the Shahada.
C. Exactly. Where do you think the Shahada
came from?
M. You mean the Shahada is from the Bible?
C. Well, which came first?
M. You have a point there. But isn’t this what
the Jews believed? What about Christians? Did
Jesus say that there is only one God?
C. Yes, sure, here it is: please read Mark
12:28-31. This is a story of a man who knows
the Torah well. He came to Christ to ask him
questions and Jesus answered him. Please read
the whole story.
M. “One of the teachers of the law came and
heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had
given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of
all the commandments, which is the most
important?” “The most important one,”
answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the
Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord
your God with all your heart and with all your
soul and with all your mind and with all your
strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your
neighbor as yourself.’ There is no
commandment greater than these.” (Optional:
read Acts 17:22-31; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6)
C.What do you think?
M. This is interesting. It is good that your
Bible teaches the truth. But why do Christians
say there are three Gods?
C. Good question. Let me explain. What I know
about God is a small fraction of who God really
is. Do you agree that God is beyond our
comprehension and he is greater than anything
we can imagine?
M. I agree. It is true.
C. Let me draw you this picture. Here is God at
the top of the paper. Let us draw a cloud
around him because he is far away,
unapproachable and mysterious.
M. OK.
C. Now let us draw down here at the bottom a
man on earth. This line represents
earth. Notice the huge gap between God and
man. God is in heaven, man is on earth. God
can see us, we cannot see him. God belongs to
the invisible world and we belong to the visible
world. Is that right?
M. Sure. So far so good. Carry on.
C. Gladly. Now let us assume that God wants to
talk to human beings and tell them something
they do not know. How can he do it?
M. He sends prophets to speak for him.
C. Great. That is exactly what happened. Who
are some of these prophets?
M. Adam. Noah. Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and
Muhammad.
C. Now let us take one of them. How about
Moses?
M. Sure. I know about Moses.
C. What do you know?
M. I know that God spoke to him in the desert
and there was some fire.
C. Yes that is good. God spoke. Now isn’t this
strange that God speaks? How does God speak?
What is his language? What is the volume of
his voice? Can Moses understand the language
of God? Can his ears handle the power of
God’s voice?
M.
C. God’s real voice is greater than the thunder.
But God limited himself to the level of Moses.
God spoke the language and even accent of
Moses. He lowered his voice so low that Moses
could hear it without hurting his ears. God
used human language. Isn’t this truly amazing
that God speaks to man? (Optional: Read parts
of Exodus 3-4)
M. Yes, I agree, but what does this have to do
with the Trinity?
C. The story of Moses teaches us about God
and his nature. Because God loves us, he
communicates with us. He spoke to Moses in
the fire, through a voice in a human language.
He spoke to Abraham through an Angel.
(Optional: Read Genesis 18 and make note that
one of the three men was called the Lord.)
Now let us read an important verse from
Hebrews 1:1-3. Can you read it please?
M. “In the past God spoke to our forefathers
through the prophets at many times and in
various ways, but in these last days he has
spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed
heir of all things, and through whom he made
the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s
glory and the exact representation of his being,
sustaining all things by his powerful word.
After he had provided purification for sins, he
sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in
heaven.”
C. Thank you. As you can see God spoke
through many different ways. But the main
point is that every time God spoke he used a
human means of communication. These are
manifestations of God. Do you understand
what I mean?
M. Manifestations are ways God appears, right?
C. Exactly. God is invisible. In order for people
to understand him he uses not a heavenly
language but human language and human
means of communication. This shows his
humility and love.
C. So M, if God has done this for many
centuries, is it strange that God reveals himself
in a more perfect way than a voice or book?
He revealed himself through Jesus Christ.
Notice verse 3 in Hebrews 1: Jesus is the exact
representation of God, His image.
M. I think I understand it a little. It seems
unreal.
C. Yes it is unreal. Let me explain something
else. Is that OK?
M. Sure. I really want to know everything
about God and Jesus.
C. Let us read John 1:1-3, 14. This is another
of those amazing verses that are difficult for a
human mind to grasp.
M. “In the beginning was the Word…” etc.
C. Let me explain something about the Word.
Before you speak what happens in the brain?
M. I think about what I want to say.
C. Right. You think about it before you say
anything. If you order food at a restaurant,
the waiter can wait for a long time without
knowing what you like to eat or drink until you
open your mouth and speak. So in a way your
words are children of your mind. In Arabic we
have a saying: “Al kalimaat banatu
eshifah.” (Words are daughters of the lips.)
Here in John, the gospel is saying that before
God created the world, he thought about it.
That “thought” is the logos in Greek. In Hebrew
it is “wisdom” and in Arabic it is “Al Kalima,”
or “the Word.”
M. I see what you mean. But it is still hard to
understand.
C. I totally agree. No one really fully
understands it because we are earthly humans
who are talking about heavenly things. In John
3:12-13 Jesus said something like this to a high
ranking religious Jew who could not
understand him. Will you read it please?
M. “I have spoken to you of earthly things and
you do not believe; how then will you believe if
I speak of heavenly things? No one has ever
gone into heaven except the one who came
from heaven — the Son of Man.”
C. Exactly. We humans are limited in our
understanding. But we try our best. It is
basically this: as the word is a tangible
(“Ma7sous” in Arabic) manifestation or the
mind, Jesus is the physical, tangible
manifestation of God who is the great mind
and intelligent power. But what we need to
understand is that Jesus is physically man, but
in his Spirit he is God, just as when you pour
water into a bucket, it is still water. The bucket
is just like the body of Jesus, the water is the
Spirit of God.
M. A lot to think about.
C. I want to give you one other example which
I think will make things clear. Let us take the
Sun as an example. Here are facts:
The Sun is 93 million miles away from us. We
cannot ever go to the sun for two main
reasons. One, we just cannot travel that far.
Two, if we approach the Sun, we will burn up.
In the same way, God is so far away that we
cannot approach him. Read this verse from
(Exodus 33:20) God said to Moses: “you cannot
see my face, for no one may see me and
live.” (explain the context) But the Sun can
come to us in some limited form. How does
the sun come to us?
M. By its light, I guess.
C. Exactly. This is how God came down to us;
through his Light, Jesus. Please read John 9:5.
M. “While I am in the world, I am the light of
the world.” Wow. that is interesting. So Jesus is
the light that came down from heaven.
C. You got it. As you can see, the light that is
here with us came from the ball of fire that is
far from us, and yet they are one. Can we say
figuratively that the fire is the father of the
light?
M. I see. In Arabic we have the word “waalid”
and “walad.” So the “walad” is Jesus and the
“waalid” is God?
C. Well, M. you seem to have grasped it.
Exactly like the fire has light and they are not
separated even though the light travels all
these millions of miles, God the Father and
Jesus the Son are inseparable. They possess the
same nature. This is the only way we could
experience God; by him coming down to our
level. We cannot possibly go to him ourselves.
He came down to us because he loves us and
wants us to live in the light, not in darkness.
(Here you can have a discussion on what
“darkness” means, spiritually.)
M. This is really good. But what about the Holy
Spirit?
C. I was just about to talk about that. Let me
ask you: What does the Light bring with it?
What do we experience other than being able
to see everything around us?
M. Do you mean the heat? So the Holy Spirit is
the heat?
C. Certainly. You can also call it the energy,
the power, or “Dunamos” in Greek. It seems
that you really have begun to understand.
M. Yes, I think I do understand the concepts
that you have explained to me. But for some
reason it still does not make sense to me. It
seems impossible for God to be like that. I’d
like to believe what you are saying, and what
the Bible teaches, but I keep thinking about it
and I’m stuck.
C. I think I know why you are stuck, and it’s
not because you lack intelligence. You are very
smart, but no matter how smart you are, you
will never understand without one crucial
element. Would you read 1 Corinthians 2:14
for me?
M. “The man without the Spirit does not accept
the things that come from the Spirit of God,
for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot
understand them, because they are spiritually
discerned.”
C. You see, God is much too vast for any
human to fully understand. So God must reveal
the truth to us, and enable us to understand it.
If you truly want to understand this, you need
to pray, and ask God to open your eyes. To
encourage you, let us read this short story
from Matthew 16:13-17. Jesus wanted to help
the disciples understand who he was. So he
asked them and this is what happened. Please
read:
M. “When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do
people say the Son of Man is?” They replied,
“Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah;
and still others, Jeremiah or one of the
prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked.
“Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered,
“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of
Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by
man, but by my Father in heaven.
C. I believe that as Peter understood by God’s
revelation, you can too. Do you want God to
reveal this to you?
M. Yes, I really do.
C. Then let’s pray together…

interesting and craftly put together - but false teaching!

first, if it is that easy, why should there be controversy on this by early christians? but that Jesus did not teach it, all reports, false reports. please prove trinity using the Old testament as that is what the early christians use
Who said God is far away from man, is God not closest to man anymore?

https://www.nairaland.com/1055215/trinity-does-bible-teach-it this is a tread discussed by your fellow christians debunking your trinity theory by Paul.

can you please discuss the history of Paul and give reason why he should be trusted? he authored/influenced most of the new testament in which the trinity was birthed and fabricated reasons to ignore the old testament and no one queried that? its absord. a proof for this is the "so many errors found in the bible(mostly new testament).

The Quran came to clear the air on all of these confusion caused by Paul and his likes... to re-iterate that God is just 1 and Jesus is a mesenger as said in the bible.
That God is closest to man and is merciful to him and that only God deserves worship. The validity of the Quran can be confirmed in its detailed account of history, brief description of mans creation, this earth, the Universe, Life, Death, Heaven and Hell, and mans attitude, the devil and hw not to be influenced by the devil. a complete guide to living-please give me a book like it if you are truthful (this is a challenge from the Quran too)

Be wise, open your eyes.

@ op, light of the sun was quenched and its heat still radiated-how? find another illustration or do you feel heat at night?

God is 1, and there is none like him. no eyes have seen him. he is capable of all things and he needs no ones help.

be among those who submit totally to Gods will and save your soul. BE A MUSLIM

Shalom

Jesus is physically man, but
in his Spirit he is God,

What does this nonsense mean ?

You should have told the Muslim the truth as follows ;

1. There is only ONE GOD with no Co-equals
2. God sent his only begotten SON to atone for the sins of MAN
3. This SON is not GOD himself but his Son
4. God gave his spirit without measure to the Son , hence the wondrous miracles and mighty works he performed.
5. GOD pours our his spirit to all who repent from their sins and accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

Try not to confuse your hearers next time, you might actually be confusing them out of the kingdom of GOD.

@ Op, i would have refered to your post as a beautiful piece BUT ITS ALL A LIE, and a lie is not qualified to be beautiful...... sorry

ghazzal:
God is 1, and there is none like him. no eyes have seen him. he is capable of all things and he needs no ones help.

be among those who submit totally to Gods will and save your soul. BE A MUSLIM

Shalom

GOD is ONE, you do not have to be a Muslim to acknowledge this fact.

Besides , to be a Muslim makes one an anti-Christ from a Christian perspective.

frosbel:


GOD is ONE, you do not have to be a Muslim to acknowledge this fact.

Besides , to be a Muslim makes one an anti-Christ from a Christian perspective.

then you have to define anti-christ. Muslims believe in Jesus as far as i know but as a creation of God. a man who was chosen by God.

note: some others were chosen too

ghazzal:

then you have to define anti-christ. Muslims believe in Jesus as far as i know but as a creation of God. a man who was chosen by God.

note: some others were chosen too

Anti christ do not believe in salvation through christ. They do not believe in eternal life through christ. Accepting him as a prophet is not same as believing he died for your sins.

ghazzal:

then you have to define anti-christ. Muslims believe in Jesus as far as i know but as a creation of God. a man who was chosen by God.

note: some others were chosen too

Jesus Christ is the Son of the living GOD , the Messiah and the Christ.

If you do not believe that he is the Son of God come in the flesh for the salvation of mankind, then you do not believe in my Jesus , rather you believe in another Jesus not related to the bible.

frosbel:

Jesus Christ is the Son of the living GOD , the Messiah and the Christ.

If you do not believe that he is the Son of God come in the flesh for the salvation of mankind, then you do not believe in my Jesus , rather you believe in another Jesus not related to the bible.

if you say that there is salvation throug Jesus, no objection from me cos he brought a message. But that he is God or son of God, why? I remember Jesus called more than 2 people sons of God in the bible... That i should ask how many sons God has?
Did Jesus himself say he wants to die for mans sin? If that is his mission, he would have made it known before his death but all we know of that are reports related by people.
The bible says Jesus has siblings, i believe they should have written books of the bible too but there is nothin about them, why? Could their view have been different? How about the first 12 followers of Christ.
Imagine Abubakar Shekau release a tape tomorrow morning claiming Jesus appeared to him, will you be quick to believe him let alone he now change the phase of Christianity. Did Jesus the early Christians use the new testament?
There is clearly a lot to be understood if we compare early Christians to todays-all to the credit of Paul.
I believe in Jesus and in his message. The most important information as given to isrealites. Did Jesus die, there is information that early Christians were divided about this too... Is this not enough reason for man to probe further?