SO A BUNCH OF HUNGRY LIONS ARE NOT FED FOR DAYS AND THEY ARE FAMISHED, STARVIN LIKE MARVIN, HUNGRY, RAVENOUS AND DAMN NEAR PASSING OUT FROM HUNGER AND THEN DANIEL IS TOSSED IN THE LIONS DEN FOR DAYS AND THESE HUNGRY BEASTS DO NOT EAT HIM UP ? WHAT KINDA NONSENSE IS THIS ? CAN ANY OF YALL EXPLAIN THIS HERE TO ME ?

Now I am fully convinced that you are at least one of the following:
1. An atheist on a mission to mock christianity and christians, while pretending you are one of us
2. An alcoholic
3. Musiwa's younger brother
I place my bet on 3

Who are the pharisees/sadducees? I hope you know you are one of them

Regards your OP, are you saying the story is not literal? Well, to me, I think it is literal but then lets hear your views first!

Willzkid: Now I am fully convinced that you are at least one of the following:
1. An atheist on a mission to mock christianity and christians, while pretending you are one of us
2. An alcoholic
3. Musiwa's younger brother
I place my bet on 3

AND FOR YOU I CHOOSE NUMBER 2. YOU SOUND DRUNK

seriallink: Who are the pharisees/sadducees? I hope you know you are one of them

Regards your OP, are you saying the story is not literal? Well, to me, I think it is literal but then lets hear your views first!

SO A HUNGRY AND RAVENOUS LION SAW FREE MEAT AND DECIDED NOT TO EAT ? THATS ONE HECK OF A COMPASSIONATE LION I TELL YA BUDDY

obadiah777: SO A HUNGRY AND RAVENOUS LION SAW FREE MEAT AND DECIDED NOT TO EAT ? THATS ONE HECK OF A COMPASSIONATE LION I TELL YA BUDDY

Okay, give us your views & interpretation. More people will contribute & we'll learn from it.

Like you said most biblical messages are parabolic and symbolic, maybe that's why some atheist find some of these stories stewpid & ridiculous. Well, that still doesn't change the fact that there are some literal messages in the Bible.

We are waiting!

seriallink:

Okay, give us your views & interpretation. More people will contribute & we'll learn from it.

Like you said most biblical messages are parabolic and symbolic, maybe that's why some atheist find some of these stories stewpid & ridiculous. Well, that still doesn't change the fact that there are some literal messages in the Bible.

We are waiting!

LET ME GET ONE OR TWO MORE VIEWS FIRST. IF I GIVE MY VIEW THAT WILL BE THE END OF THE THREAD BUT AS YOU RIGHTLY ALLUDED TO, ATHEISTS FIND THE STORIES STEWPID AND RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THEY TAKE IT LITERALLY.

obadiah777: SO A BUNCH OF HUNGRY LIONS ARE NOT FED FOR DAYS AND THEY ARE FAMISHED, STARVIN LIKE MARVIN, HUNGRY, RAVENOUS AND DAMN NEAR PASSING OUT FROM HUNGER AND THEN DANIEL IS TOSSED IN THE LIONS DEN FOR DAYS AND THESE HUNGRY BEASTS DO NOT EAT HIM UP ? WHAT KINDA NONSENSE IS THIS ? CAN ANY OF YALL EXPLAIN THIS HERE TO ME ?

It is simple.

Either

1- Daniel was allergic to cats. In those days, their native doctors used to prescribe cat repellent ointments for them to put aound their houses and on themselves so cats don't come near them. So when Daniel was thrown in the den, the ointment on his body kept the cats away.

Or

2- Daniel was one of the guards of the lions and had bonded with them previously. As one of the guards, he used to bring them food. So they associated Daniel with a caring figure who brings them food. Unlike humans, lions don't bite the hands that feed them.

Or

3- As the lions were domesticated in a den, they have lost the ability to kill in order to feed as their food is always brought to them in form of dead cut up meat. So Daniel didn't look like food.

Or.

4- doG in heaven did it.

advocate666:

It is simple.

Either

1- Daniel was allergic to cats. In those days, their native doctors used to prescribe cat repellent ointments for them to put aound their houses and on themselves so cats don't come near them. So when Daniel was thrown in the den, the ointment on his body kept the cats away.

Or

2- Daniel was one of the guards of the lions and had bonded with them previously. As one of the guards, he used to bring them food. So they associated Daniel with a caring figure who brings them food. Unlike humans, lions don't bite the hands that feed them.

Or

3- As the lions were domesticated in a den, they have lost the ability to kill in order to feed as their food is always brought to them in form of dead cut up meat. So Daniel didn't look like food.

Or.

4- doG in heaven did it.

Oddly enough, while not likely, 2 and 3 are possible. But I prefer 4

advocate666:

It is simple.

Either

1- Daniel was allergic to cats. In those days, their native doctors used to prescribe cat repellent ointments for them to put aound their houses and on themselves so cats don't come near them. So when Daniel was thrown in the den, the ointment on his body kept the cats away.

Or

2- Daniel was one of the guards of the lions and had bonded with them previously. As one of the guards, he used to bring them food. So they associated Daniel with a caring figure who brings them food. Unlike humans, lions don't bite the hands that feed them.

Or

3- As the lions were domesticated in a den, they have lost the ability to kill in order to feed as their food is always brought to them in form of dead cut up meat. So Daniel didn't look like food.

Or.

4- doG in heaven did it.

INTERESTING

wiegraf:

Oddly enough, while not likely, 2 and 3 are possible. But I prefer 4

A CASE OF THE BLIND FOLLOWING THE BLIND

obadiah777: A CASE OF THE BLIND FOLLOWING THE BLIND

I like logic, it can't be helped

wiegraf:


I like logic, it can't be helped

BUT YOU MY KIND SIR PREFER THE ILLOGICAL

OKAY HERE IS THE EXPLANATION. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE BIBLE IS JEWS FIRST AND THEN GENTILES NEXT. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FOR JEWS AND THE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN FOR THE GENTILES. JEWS GO IN HELL FIRST AND THEN GENTILES NEXT. JEWS CAME INTO THE WORLD FIRST AND THEN GENTILES NEXT. JEREMIAH 51 VS 19 The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name. <<<< ISRAEL IS THE FORMER OF ALL THINGS. FIRST CREATED PEOPLE ON EARTH BEFORE OTHERS DEVOLVED FROM THEM. NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT.

SO WHEN THE JEWS CAME FIRST, THEY FELL AS A NATION BECAUSE OF ALL KINDS OF SIN, ESPECIALLY IDOLATRY. SO THE LORD CHOSE THE RIGHTEOUS AMONGST THEM AND SEALED THEM AND THEN HANDED THE WORLD TO THE GENTILES ( JOB 9 VS 24 ) WHO HAD NO LAWS. THE GENTILES HAD NO LAWS BECAUSE THE LAWS WERE ONLY GIVEN TO ISRAEL ( PSALM 149 VS 19 AND 20 ) AND PEOPLE WITH NO LAWS ARE WILD ANIMALS WHICH IS HOW THE GENTILES WERE. SO THE WICKED GENTILES BEING IN CONTROL OF THE WORLD IS WHAT IS THE LIONS DEN. THE LIONS DEN IS THE WORLD AND THE GENTILES WHO WERE TORTURING AND ENSLAVING THE ISRAELITES ARE THE LIONS. HOWEVER THE SEALED ISRAELITES WHICH DANIEL WAS A PART OF ARE PROTECTED BY THE LORD FROM THE LIONS ( GENTILES )

JEREMIAH 2 VS 15 The young lions roared upon him, and yelled, and they made his land waste: his cities are burned without inhabitant. <<< YOUNG LIONS ARE THE GENTILES. CALLED YOUNG LIONS BECAUSE THEY CAME AFTER ISRAEL. THEY ARE YOUNGER.

JEREMIAH 50 VS 17 Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones. <<< THE YOUNG LIONS LIKE THE BABYLONIAN AND ASSYRIAN AND GREEK AND ROMANS PUTTING THEM IN ALL KINDS OF SLAVERY AND TORTURE.

HOWEVER IN THE MIDST OF THIS LIONS DEN ( SO CALLED BECAUSE THE WORLD HAS BEEN HANDED TO THEM TO RULE BECAUSE OF ISRAELS FALL ( JOB 9 VS 24 ) ( ROMANS 11 VS 11 ). IN THE MIDST OF THIS LIONS DEN WHILE ALL ISRAEL IS GETTING PUMMELED AND ENSLAVED AND EATEN UP, THE ELECT HAVE A COVERING OF PROTECTION COVERING THEM FROM THE GENTILES. THIS IS WHY THE LION ( GENTILES ) IS NOT EATING DANIEL ( THE ELECT ) UP

PROVERBS 16 VS 7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him

JEREMIAH 15 VS 11 The LORD said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.

REVELATION 9 VS 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. GREEN GRASS OF THE EARTH MEANS THE ELECT MEN. CALLED SO BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY ALIVE WHILE THE REST ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD

EZEKIEL 9 VS 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

AND THATS WHY DANIEL WAS NOT EATEN. THE STORY IS AN ALLEGORY OF THE ELECT OF ISRAEL IN THE MIDST OF A HOSTILE GENTILE WORLD FILLED WITH RAVENOUS SATANIC YOUNG LIONS ( ASSYRIANS BABYLONIANS GREEK AND ROMANS >>> ALL GENTILES )

^^^@Buzugee, so Daniel never existed and the event never happened or what?

advocate666:

It is simple.

Either

1- Daniel was allergic to cats. In those days, their native doctors used to prescribe cat repellent ointments for them to put aound their houses and on themselves so cats don't come near them. So when Daniel was thrown in the den, the ointment on his body kept the cats away.

Or

2- Daniel was one of the guards of the lions and had bonded with them previously. As one of the guards, he used to bring them food. So they associated Daniel with a caring figure who brings them food. Unlike humans, lions don't bite the hands that feed them.

Or

3- As the lions were domesticated in a den, they have lost the ability to kill in order to feed as their food is always brought to them in form of dead cut up meat. So Daniel didn't look like food.

Or.

4- doG in heaven did it.

You are right. The stupid pastor in Ibadan that tried to play with Lion saying he had power to bind the Lion got shredded into pieces and eaten by the Lion.

seriallink: ^^^@Buzugee, so Daniel never existed and the event never happened or what?

ITS AN ALLEGORICAL STORY OF WHATS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD THEN AND NOW. AS YOU WILL FIND OUT ALL BIBLICAL NAMES ARE NAMES OF GROUPS OF PEOPLE. JACOB IS A NATION OF PEOPLE. ESAU IS A NATION OF PEOPLE. DANIEL IS 'THE ELECT'.

THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN PARABLES

PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter hidden things <<< HOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN

obadiah777: ITS AN ALLEGORICAL STORY. AS YOU WILL FIND OUT ALL BIBLICAL NAMES ARE NAMES OF GROUPS OF PEOPLE. JACOB IS A NATION OF PEOPLE. ESAU IS A NATION OF PEOPLE. DANIEL IS 'THE ELECT'.

THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN PARABLES

PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter hidden things <<< HOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN

Daniel never existed? But there are historical evidences that Nebuchadnezzar existed; why do you think Daniel's case is different?

seriallink:

Daniel never existed? But there are historical evidences that Nebuchadnezzar existed; why do you think Daniel's case is different?

I DONT KNOW IF DANIEL ACTUALLY EXISTED BUT THAT STORY AS TOLD IN THE BIBLE IS AN ALLEGORY OF WHAT ISRAEL WAS GOING THROUGH AND THE PROTECTION OF THE ELECT. NOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY SO THAT I AM SURE NEBUCHADNEZZER ACTUALLY EXISTED. HOWEVER WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO ISRAEL IN THE TIME OF NEBUCHADNEZER IS THE PART THAT IS TOLD IN PARABLES. SO IF DANIEL ACTUALLY EXISTED ? I DONT KNOW BUT I DOUBT IT. I THINK THATS THE SYMBOLIC ISRAELITE STORY DROPPED INTO THE HISTORY OF WHAT WHAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THAT POINT. SO NEBUCHADNEZZER IS REAL HOWEVER DANIEL MORE THAN LIKELY IS SYMBOLIC FOR 'THE ELECT'

FOR EXAMPLE IN THE NIGERIAN CIVIL WAR. LETS CALL THE BIAFRANS 'JOHNNY' AND LETS CALL NIGERIA 'THE PIT' AND THEN THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA WAS GOWON. SO A STORY ABOUT BIAFRA IF WRITTEN BIBLICALLY ALLEGORICALLY COULD BE ' AND JOHNNY WENT THROUGH SO MUCH TRIALS AND TRIBULATION BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BE LEFT ALONE AND SEPERATED FROM THE PIT BUT GOWON WOULD NOT LET HIM SECEDE <<<< SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF YOU CHECK FOR GOWON IN HISTORY YOU WILL SEE HE ACTUALLY EXISTED BUT JOHNNY ?

Willzkid: Now I am fully convinced that you are at least one of the following:
1. An atheist on a mission to mock christianity and christians, while pretending you are one of us
2. An alcoholic
3. Musiwa's younger brother
I place my bet on 3

Now I am convinced that you are all of the above

Willzkid:
Now I am convinced that you are all of the above

OH YE SIMPLE ONE WHY DO YOU LOVE SIMPLICITY ? WHY DO YOU ERR NOT KNOWING SCRIPTURES

obadiah777: I DONT KNOW IF DANIEL ACTUALLY EXISTED BUT THAT STORY AS TOLD IN THE BIBLE IS AN ALLEGORY OF WHAT ISRAEL WAS GOING THROUGH AND THE PROTECTION OF THE ELECT. NOW THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY SO THAT I AM SURE NEBUCHADNEZZER ACTUALLY EXISTED. HOWEVER WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO ISRAEL IN THE TIME OF NEBUCHADNEZER IS THE PART THAT IS TOLD IN PARABLES. SO IF DANIEL ACTUALLY EXISTED ? I DONT KNOW BUT I DOUBT IT. I THINK THATS THE SYMBOLIC ISRAELITE STORY DROPPED INTO THE HISTORY OF WHAT WHAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AT THAT POINT. SO NEBUCHADNEZZER IS REAL HOWEVER DANIEL MORE THAN LIKELY IS SYMBOLIC FOR 'THE ELECT'

Well, I get your point. But if the bolded is true and Daniel never existed, it will mean that a lot of messages in the Bible are not what we think they are! Maybe that's why there has been difficulty in finding archaeological proofs for some legend in the Bible.

We pray that God give us better understandings of these things.

Lol! U guys could be really funny atimes, infact everytime.
So what other book of the bible is a fable: adam and eve? esther? moses? The whole freaking thing?

Stop twisting ur bible. It seems u are even more blasphemous about ur religion than non-christians.

The parables in the bible were labelled as parables before being told. Do not try to justify urself by being even more confused.

So now daniel was somehow fraudulently added in ur so called history book?
Anyway I know thats true, but the funny part is that u do accept that fact, but somehow still try to justify it.

Besides, what happen to the supernatural power of ur god? So he can't save a man from mere cats anymore?

U really do have faith.

seriallink:


Well, I get your point. But if the bolded is true and Daniel never existed, it will mean that a lot of messages in the Bible are not what we think they are! Maybe that's why there has been difficulty in finding archaeological proofs for some legend in the Bible.

We pray that God give us better understandings of these things.

WHAT I FOUND ON GOOGLE >>>> ITS AN ARTICLE. I COPIED AND PASTED. NOT MY WORDS

[b]
First of all, it can be demonstrated that the Book of Daniel is not a true story. In spite of adamant statements by some believers that the book was written by Daniel himself, scholars say that it was really written approximately 167 BCE, centuries after the events it purports to portray. The Book of Daniel was really using the Babylonian Exile as an allegory for the Syrian Empire that was oppressing the Jews at the time of writing. If the Book of Daniel was not really true, then of course the story of Daniel and the lion's den was certainly not true.

The story in Daniel chapter 6 tells of Daniel being thrust into the role of second-in command of the entire empire, and of jealous men conspiring to have Daniel thrown into the den of lions, taking advantage of the well-known Persian code of morality, in which a promise can not be broken. It follows with a pious passage that can only be propaganda. Not only was Daniel a role model for the readers, by praying to his God in spite of the risk, his God was able to save him from the lions, just as God had previously saved the young men from the furnace in a quite similar context. The fact that the story even tells of the wrong Persian king who defeated the Babylonians (Darius, when it should have been Cyrus) is further proof, if any is needed, of the fictional nature of the story.[/b] <<<< DUNNO WHAT THIS PERSONS AGENDA IS. BUT THE POINT IS THAT THE LIONS DEN STORY IS MORE ALLEGORICAL THAN ANYTHING. THERE IS A MESSAGE AND A STORY BEHIND IT. ITS OF THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY AND THE FATE OF THE ELECTED SEALED MEN AMIDST THE CAPTIVITY

HAD TO GET BACK TO THIS POINT BEFORE I DOZED OFF BECAUSE I DONT THINK I DID IT MUCH JUSTICE. OK SO DOES DANIEL ACTUALLY EXIST ? THE PERSON ACTUALLY EXISTED HOWEVER I DONT KNOW IF HIS NAME WAS DANIEL. BUT WHOMEVER HE WAS THAT WROTE THE BOOK OF DANIEL, OR WHATEVER HIS NAME WAS, HE WAS PART OF THE ELECT. HE SAW SOME VERY POWERFUL VISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE THAT ARE TAKING PLACE NOW SO HE WAS DEFINITELY AN EXISTENT PROPHET. I THINK HE WOVE HIS SITUATION AS A PROTECTED ELECT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY IN THE MIDST OF THE YOUNG RAVENOUS LIONS, HE WOVE THE STORY INTO HIM BEING IN THE LIONS DEN AND UNSCATHED. DID AN ACTUAL LIONS DEN EXIST ? I STRONGLY DONT THINK SO. DOES DANIEL THE PERSON EXIST ? YES HE DOES, HOWEVER I DONT KNOW IF HIS REAL NAME IS DANIEL BUT THATS IRRELEVANT. THE FACT IS HE EXISTED. HE WAS A PROPHET. HE WAS PART OF THE SEALED ELECT. AND WITH THAT. SHALOM MY BROTHERS. SEE YALL 2MOZ

^^^Yeah, that makes sense bro. Lets discuss it tomorrow. 1luv

Even the most ardent defenders of the bible are beginning to realise that their book actually makes no sense.

Op

Let me test your level of " smarts"

Explain what happened with the writing on the wall.

Dont be scared!

I'll go easy on you.

Willzkid: Now I am fully convinced that you are at least one of the following:
1. An atheist on a mission to mock christianity and christians, while pretending you are one of us
2. An alcoholic
3. Musiwa's younger brother
I place my bet on 3

4. A Gentile- one of the lions that want to devour Daniel.

I will bet on all these things with obadiah's money and win.

Tell us which countries were later devoured by the lions when Daniel was released from the den.

So that is also why samson also killed the lion(gentile/philistians). You are good at imagining things.

@Boomark, the Samson part is an interesting question. Buzugee, where art thou?

Willzkid:
Now I am convinced that you are all of the above

Hahahahahaha........you no go kill me with laugh....