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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 11:25am On Dec 01, 2012
advocate666: Even the most ardent defenders of the bible are beginning to realise that their book actually makes no sense.
MAKES NO SENSE ? IS THAT WHAT YOU GOT FROM THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION ? >>>>> PSALAMS 14 VS 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. <<< THATS YOU RIGHT THERE grin
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 11:32am On Dec 01, 2012
tpia1: Op

Let me test your level of " smarts" undecided

Explain what happened with the writing on the wall.

Dont be scared!

I'll go easy on you.
THE WRITING ON THE WALL IS PART OF THE SYMBOLISM. THE POINT BEING THAT THERE WAS ABOUT TO BE A REGIME CHANGE FROM THE BABYLONIAN TO THE MEDIA-PERSIAN EMPIRE. ITS PART OF THE SYMBOLISM THAT 'DANIEL' USED TO EXPLAIN HOW THE BABYLONIAN EMPIRE WAS CONQUERED. THOSE EVENTS WERE HAPPENING AT THAT POINT IN TIME SO I DOUBT THAT WAS PART OF HIS PROPHETIC VISION. ITS LIKE DANIEL RECORDING HISTORY AS IT IS HAPPENING. THE PROPHETIC VISIONS START FROM CHAPTER 7 ON DOWN TO CHAPTER 11 BECAUSE I DONT THINK HE LIVED TO SEE THE ROMAN EMPIRE TAKE OVER FROM THE GREEK AND I DONT THINK HE LIVED TO SEE THE PROLIFERATION OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE INTO THE BEAST WITH 10 HORNS ( HORNS MEAN STRENGTH AND HENCE ITS TALKING ABOUT THE 10 STRONGEST EUROPEAN NATIONS ). I ALSO DONT THINK HE LIVED TO SEE THREE OF THOSE HORNS COALESCE TO FORM THE ONE BELLIGERENT HORN ( AMERICA ). THAT WOULD MEAN HE LIVED TO ABOUT 2500 YEARS OLD. wink WHICH HE DIDNT
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 11:35am On Dec 01, 2012
Boomark:

4. A Gentile- one of the lions that want to devour Daniel.

I will bet on all these things with obadiah's money and win.

Tell us which countries were later devoured by the lions when Daniel was released from the den.

So that is also why samson also killed the lion(gentile/philistians). You are good at imagining things.
COUNTRIES THAT WERE LATER DEVOURED ? OR THE EMPIRES THAT EMERGED FROM THE LIONS ? >>>>> MEDIO-PERSIAN >>> GREEK >>>> ROMAN >>>>AMERICAN
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 11:40am On Dec 01, 2012
seriallink: @Boomark, the Samson part is an interesting question. Buzugee, where art thou?
I MOSTLY FOCUS ON PROPHETICAL SCRIPTURES WHICH STARTS FROM THE BOOK OF JOB ON DOWN TO REVELATION. I DONT FOCUS TOO MUCH ON GENEALOGICAL SCRIPTURES LIKE KINGS AND CHRONICLES ETC SO I HAVE NOT READ THE SAMSON STORY IN A WHILE. HOWEVER I CAN EMPHATICALLY TELL YOU THAT IT IS AN ALLEGORICAL SCRIPTURE TOO AND THE LION WILL BE THE GENTILES ( I BELIEVE THE GENTILES DURING SAMSONS TIME WERE THE PHILISTINES )
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Todaynatoday: 11:50am On Dec 01, 2012
obadiah777: COUNTRIES THAT WERE LATER DEVOURED ? OR THE EMPIRES THAT EMERGED FROM THE LIONS ? >>>>> MEDIO-PERSIAN >>> GREEK >>>> ROMAN >>>>AMERICAN
This was the part he was referring to
Daniel 6:24
King James Version
(KJV)
24 And the king commanded, and they brought those men which had accused
Daniel, and they cast them into the den of
lions, them, their children, and their wives;
and the lions had the mastery of them, and
brake all their bones in pieces or ever they
came at the bottom of the den.

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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Boomark(m): 12:13pm On Dec 01, 2012
^^exactly!

Since Daniel=jews
lions=gentiles

who are men, women and children?

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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 12:19pm On Dec 01, 2012
Todaynatoday:
This was the part he was referring to
I AM HAPPY YOU BROUGHT THAT PART UP. I DID NOT WANT TO GO INTO IT YESTERDAY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE GET EASILY OVERWHELMED WITH KNOWLEDGE. I KNOW I DO. II LIKE TAKING KNOWLEDGE IN SLOWLY, NOT ALL AT ONCE. THAT WILL DRIVE ME CRAZY. SO I GUESS NOW THAT EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRST PART OF THE STORY, LETS GO INTO THE SECOND PART OF THE STORY.

SO THE GENTILES ARE THE YOUNG LIONS TERRORIZING THE ISRAELITES <<<< I PROVIDED TWO SCRIPTURES DESCRIBING THE GENTILES AS THE LIONS

SO WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN DUDRING THE RETURN OF CHRIST IS THAT CHRIST WILL BECOME THE LION AND HE WILL DEVOUR THE GENTILES ( THE GENTILES WERE THROWN INTO THE LIONS AND HE ATE THEM BEFORE THEY TOUCHED THE GROUND. THIS IS JUDGEMENT. THE GENTILES ARE NOT WITHOUT SIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TERRORIZING THE ISRAELITES. SO THEY DO NOT HAVE PROTECTION. AS SUCH CHRIST COMES AND EATS THEM UP IN JUDGEMENT BY PUTTING THEM IN THEIR SECOND DEATH ( HELL ). IT IS THEIR TURN TO BE DEVOURED BY THE LION FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH

JEREMIAH 4 VS 7 The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.
<<<< CHRIST THE LION COMING TO DESTROY THE GENTILES

SO IN ESSENCE DURING THE JEWS PERIOD IN HELL, THE GENTILES WERE THE LIONS AND DURING THE GENTILES TIME IN HELL, CHRIST WILL BE THE LION. THE POINT HERE IS THAT CHRISTS SECOND COMING IS FOR THE JUDGEMENT OF THE GENTILES. THE JEWS HAVE ALREADY BEEN JUDGED ( ARE STILL IN JUDGEMENT )


REVELATION 5 VS 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. <<<<< THE BOLDED PART <<< CHRIST THE LION <<<< FUTURE DESTROYER OF THE GENTILES
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by advocate666: 12:22pm On Dec 01, 2012
The confusion of buzugee is overwhelming.
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 12:24pm On Dec 01, 2012
advocate666: The confusion of buzugee is overwhelming.
CONFUSION <<<< NOT IN MY VOCABULARY.
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Delafruita(m): 12:42pm On Dec 01, 2012
obadiah777: OKAY HERE IS THE EXPLANATION. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE BIBLE IS JEWS FIRST AND THEN GENTILES NEXT. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FOR JEWS AND THE NEW TESTAMENT IS WRITTEN FOR THE GENTILES. JEWS GO IN HELL FIRST AND THEN GENTILES NEXT. JEWS CAME INTO THE WORLD FIRST AND THEN GENTILES NEXT. JEREMIAH 51 VS 19 The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name. <<<< ISRAEL IS THE FORMER OF ALL THINGS. FIRST CREATED PEOPLE ON EARTH BEFORE OTHERS DEVOLVED FROM THEM. NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT.

SO WHEN THE JEWS CAME FIRST, THEY FELL AS A NATION BECAUSE OF ALL KINDS OF SIN, ESPECIALLY IDOLATRY. SO THE LORD CHOSE THE RIGHTEOUS AMONGST THEM AND SEALED THEM AND THEN HANDED THE WORLD TO THE GENTILES ( JOB 9 VS 24 ) WHO HAD NO LAWS. THE GENTILES HAD NO LAWS BECAUSE THE LAWS WERE ONLY GIVEN TO ISRAEL ( PSALM 149 VS 19 AND 20 ) AND PEOPLE WITH NO LAWS ARE WILD ANIMALS WHICH IS HOW THE GENTILES WERE. SO THE WICKED GENTILES BEING IN CONTROL OF THE WORLD IS WHAT IS THE LIONS DEN. THE LIONS DEN IS THE WORLD AND THE GENTILES WHO WERE TORTURING AND ENSLAVING THE ISRAELITES ARE THE LIONS. HOWEVER THE SEALED ISRAELITES WHICH DANIEL WAS A PART OF ARE PROTECTED BY THE LORD FROM THE LIONS ( GENTILES )

JEREMIAH 2 VS 15 The young lions roared upon him, and yelled, and they made his land waste: his cities are burned without inhabitant. <<< YOUNG LIONS ARE THE GENTILES. CALLED YOUNG LIONS BECAUSE THEY CAME AFTER ISRAEL. THEY ARE YOUNGER.

JEREMIAH 50 VS 17 Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones. <<< THE YOUNG LIONS LIKE THE BABYLONIAN AND ASSYRIAN AND GREEK AND ROMANS PUTTING THEM IN ALL KINDS OF SLAVERY AND TORTURE.

HOWEVER IN THE MIDST OF THIS LIONS DEN ( SO CALLED BECAUSE THE WORLD HAS BEEN HANDED TO THEM TO RULE BECAUSE OF ISRAELS FALL ( JOB 9 VS 24 ) ( ROMANS 11 VS 11 ). IN THE MIDST OF THIS LIONS DEN WHILE ALL ISRAEL IS GETTING PUMMELED AND ENSLAVED AND EATEN UP, THE ELECT HAVE A COVERING OF PROTECTION COVERING THEM FROM THE GENTILES. THIS IS WHY THE LION ( GENTILES ) IS NOT EATING DANIEL ( THE ELECT ) UP

PROVERBS 16 VS 7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him

JEREMIAH 15 VS 11 The LORD said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.

REVELATION 9 VS 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. GREEN GRASS OF THE EARTH MEANS THE ELECT MEN. CALLED SO BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY ALIVE WHILE THE REST ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD

EZEKIEL 9 VS 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

AND THATS WHY DANIEL WAS NOT EATEN. THE STORY IS AN ALLEGORY OF THE ELECT OF ISRAEL IN THE MIDST OF A HOSTILE GENTILE WORLD FILLED WITH RAVENOUS SATANIC YOUNG LIONS ( ASSYRIANS BABYLONIANS GREEK AND ROMANS >>> ALL GENTILES )
buzugee,whatthefuck are you drinking or sniffing?in essence,the entire frigging bible is allegorical and akin to tales by moonlight or the stories of tortoise

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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 01, 2012
Delafruita: buzugee,whatthefuck are you drinking or sniffing?in essence,the entire frigging bible is allegorical and akin to tales by moonlight or the stories of tortoise
ALLEGORICAL DOES NOT MEAN ITS NOT REAL. ITS WRITTEN SYMBOLICALLY. HOWEVER THE ANSWERS TO ALL THE SYMBOLS ALSO LIE IN THE BIBLE.

LION OF JUDAH ? >>>> CHRIST
YOUNG LIONS ? >>>> GENTILES
DANIEL >>>> PROTECTED AND SEALED ELECT

ALL IN THE BIBLE YOU JUST HAVE TO BE DILIGENT WHEN STUDYING AND YOU WILL LINK UP ALL THE PUZZLE. ITS LIKE A CROSSWORD PUZZLE
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 01, 2012
obadiah777: I AM HAPPY YOU BROUGHT THAT PART UP. I DID NOT WANT TO GO INTO IT YESTERDAY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE GET EASILY OVERWHELMED WITH KNOWLEDGE. I KNOW I DO. II LIKE TAKING KNOWLEDGE IN SLOWLY, NOT ALL AT ONCE. THAT WILL DRIVE ME CRAZY. SO I GUESS NOW THAT EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRST PART OF THE STORY, LETS GO INTO THE SECOND PART OF THE STORY.

SO THE GENTILES ARE THE YOUNG LIONS TERRORIZING THE ISRAELITES <<<< I PROVIDED TWO SCRIPTURES DESCRIBING THE GENTILES AS THE LIONS

SO WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN DUDRING THE RETURN OF CHRIST IS THAT CHRIST WILL BECOME THE LION AND HE WILL DEVOUR THE GENTILES ( THE GENTILES WERE THROWN INTO THE LIONS AND HE ATE THEM BEFORE THEY TOUCHED THE GROUND. THIS IS JUDGEMENT. THE GENTILES ARE NOT WITHOUT SIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TERRORIZING THE ISRAELITES. SO THEY DO NOT HAVE PROTECTION. AS SUCH CHRIST COMES AND EATS THEM UP IN JUDGEMENT BY PUTTING THEM IN THEIR SECOND DEATH ( HELL ). IT IS THEIR TURN TO BE DEVOURED BY THE LION FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH

JEREMIAH 4 VS 7 The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.
<<<< CHRIST THE LION COMING TO DESTROY THE GENTILES

SO IN ESSENCE DURING THE JEWS PERIOD IN HELL, THE GENTILES WERE THE LIONS AND DURING THE GENTILES TIME IN HELL, CHRIST WILL BE THE LION. THE POINT HERE IS THAT CHRISTS SECOND COMING IS FOR THE JUDGEMENT OF THE GENTILES. THE JEWS HAVE ALREADY BEEN JUDGED ( ARE STILL IN JUDGEMENT )


REVELATION 5 VS 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. <<<<< THE BOLDED PART <<< CHRIST THE LION <<<< FUTURE DESTROYER OF THE GENTILES
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by tpia1: 3:24pm On Dec 01, 2012
obadiah777: THE WRITING ON THE WALL IS PART OF THE SYMBOLISM. THE POINT BEING THAT THERE WAS ABOUT TO BE A REGIME CHANGE FROM THE BABYLONIAN TO THE MEDIA-PERSIAN EMPIRE. ITS PART OF THE SYMBOLISM THAT 'DANIEL' USED TO EXPLAIN HOW THE BABYLONIAN EMPIRE WAS CONQUERED. THOSE EVENTS WERE HAPPENING AT THAT POINT IN TIME SO I DOUBT THAT WAS PART OF HIS PROPHETIC VISION. ITS LIKE DANIEL RECORDING HISTORY AS IT IS HAPPENING. THE PROPHETIC VISIONS START FROM CHAPTER 7 ON DOWN TO CHAPTER 11 BECAUSE I DONT THINK HE LIVED TO SEE THE ROMAN EMPIRE TAKE OVER FROM THE GREEK AND I DONT THINK HE LIVED TO SEE THE PROLIFERATION OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE INTO THE BEAST WITH 10 HORNS ( HORNS MEAN STRENGTH AND HENCE ITS TALKING ABOUT THE 10 STRONGEST EUROPEAN NATIONS ). I ALSO DONT THINK HE LIVED TO SEE THREE OF THOSE HORNS COALESCE TO FORM THE ONE BELLIGERENT HORN ( AMERICA ). THAT WOULD MEAN HE LIVED TO ABOUT 2500 YEARS OLD. wink WHICH HE DIDNT




So, basically you're saying most of the bible is allegory.

Not surprising, given your general stance on all things christian.

Anyway, can you explain the kings reaction to the writing, and his promoting daniel that very night, was that allegory too?

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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 3:10pm On Dec 04, 2012
tpia1:




So, basically you're saying most of the bible is allegory.

Not surprising, given your general stance on all things christian.

Anyway, can you explain the kings reaction to the writing, and his promoting daniel that very night, was that allegory too?
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALLEGORY DOES NOT MEAN UNREAL. HOWEVER CERTAIN SCENARIOS ARE PAINTED IN SYMBOLISM. FOR EXAMPLE THE EARTH UNDER THE REIGN OF THE GENTILES WILL BE CALLED 'THE LIONS DEN' ETC ETC. ALL THESE ARE REAL STORIES BUT THEY ARE NOT LITERALLY READ. GERRIT ? THEY ARE REAL BUT NOT LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD. I AM SURE THE LORD CAN MAKE IT TO WHERE AN ACTUAL LION DOES NOT EAT YOU UP DESPITE BEING HUNGRY, HOWEVER THE BIBLE IS THE STORY OF THE WORLD IN HIDDEN SYMBOLS. ITS NOT A BOOK OF CHEAP TRICKERY OF HUNGRY LIONS NOT EATING HUMAN MEAT, OR CHRIST CHANGING ACTUAL WATER TO ACTUAL WINE ( WHICH IS SYMBOLISM FOR HE SPREAD THE WORD TO THE PEOPLE, WHICH THE BIBLICAL WORD FOR 'THE WORD' IS 'WINE' AND FOR 'WATER' IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT NATIONS ), OR DANIEL BEING CAST IN A FIERY FURNACE AND NOT BURNING ( WHICH THE FIERY FURNACE IS THE SECOND DEATH OF THE JEWS AND NOT AN ACTUAL FURNACE AND HIM NOT BURNING BECAUSE HE IS A PROTECTED AND SEALED ELECT, THE FIRST FRUIT, THE 144,000 ) ETC ETC ETC. ITS NOT A CHEAP MAGIC BOOK OF TRICKS.

THE KINGS REACTION TO THE WRITING >> IS ACKNOWLEDGING THE TRUE GOD, ACCEPTING HIS FATE THAT HIS EMPIRE WILL BE DEPOSED BY THE MEDIOPERSIAN EMPIRE WHICH THE MEDIOPERSIAN TOOK OVER FROM ANCIENT BABYLON. FUNNY ENOUGH SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT WHICH HAS BEEN IS THAT WHICH WILL BE AND THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN. THE MODERN DAY BABYLONIAN EMPIRE ( AMERICA ) WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN BY THE MODERN DAY PERSIAN EMPIRE ( UNDER AHMEDINEJAD AMONGST A HOST OF OTHER NATIONS THAT WILL HELP HIM OUT ) AND THAT WILL SIGNIFY THE COMPLETION ( 7 ) NEEDED TO WRAP UP THIS GENTILE ERA ON EARTH. THESE ARE EXCITING TIMES TO LIVE IN. WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF THE GREATEST SHOW ( ARMAGEDDON ) IN THE HISTORY OF THIS WORLD.
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by tpia1: 3:54am On Dec 05, 2012
^was daniel's promotion after interpreting the writing on the wall, symbolism too?

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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 6:36am On Dec 05, 2012
tpia1: ^was daniel's promotion after interpreting the writing on the wall, symbolism too?
NO IT WAS NOT. IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT ISRAELITE SLAVES HAD TOP POSITIONS IN EVERY COUNTRY WHERE THEY WERE ENSLAVED. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE JOSEPH IN EGYPT, SEPTEMIUS SEVERUS IN THE ANCIENT ROMAN EMPIRE, BENJAMIN BANNEKER AND HIRAM RHODES REVELS IN 1700s AND 1800s AMERICA.
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by tpia1: 8:51am On Dec 05, 2012
my point is the language used was very factual and indicated a specific time frame.

how do you explain that.

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Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 9:03am On Dec 05, 2012
tpia1: my point is the language used was very factual and indicated a specific time frame.

how do you explain that.
DANIEL EXISTED. ITS A REAL STORY. I REPEAT 'SYMBOLISM' DOES NOT MEAN 'UNREAL'. THE SYMBOLIC PART OF THE STORY IS THE ACTUAL LION AND A DRAGONS DEN. THOSE ARE NOT LITERAL.
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 2:57pm On Dec 11, 2012
OsunOriginal:

You are right. The stupid pastor in Ibadan that tried to play with Lion saying he had power to bind the Lion got shredded into pieces and eaten by the Lion.
the stupid man was killed but was not eaten and shredded in pieces. Zoo attendants retrieved his body before the lion commence eating.
Re: Atheists, Pharisees, Sadducees And Christians. Let Me Borrow Your Ears by Nobody: 6:19pm On Dec 11, 2012
Mee234:
the stupid man was killed but was not eaten and shredded in pieces. Zoo attendants retrieved his body before the lion commence eating.
SYMPTOMS OF SMOKING GARRI MORNING AFTERNOON AND EVENING. >>>>> YOU THINK YOU ARE DANIEL

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