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Lastly,let me say a little on Hebrews 7 which keeps coming up.The purpose of the book was to bring the jews to Jesus as their mediator.The jews’ relationship with God was through the priests.The writer came to tell them that Jesus had come to take the place of the priests and sacrifices.That Jesus was and is better than the priests,than Aaron,Moses,even angels etc.thats the theme.That Jesus is the Way,More superior,qualified than the levites,after the order of Melchisedec to whom Levi paid tithes through Abraham.Notice again that no only levites collect tithes,Melchisedec collects,poor people collect Deut14v28,29,etc,God collects.Tithes just mean 1/10 Heb7v2.Notice v7&8 the verbs are in the present continous.Veril/Surely(v50 till date,he receives them of whom it is witnedssed that he lives.There is made a change of the law v12,what law,the whole bible?No,the OT?No,the 5 books of Moses?No,The 10 laws?No.The law of sacrifice?Yes Heb9v9,10 compare 7v16 and 10v8,9.For a bigger picture,you could read the whole book.Lets rightly divide the Word of truth.It doesn’t contradict but complement each other.God be with You all

@Image 123
bros how far now? you still haven't stopped this your penchant for quoting the bible out of context, i would have thought that all these days that we haven't been hearing from you, you had gone to repent and change your stance on this unscriptural / manupulative doctrine. The "change of law" that was stated in verse 12 was clearly refering to the law of tithing which was descirbed in the previous verses and mentioned specifically in verse 5, i encourage all readers to go and cross check this verses in their bibles. Also the reason that was given for the change of the law in verses 13-15 is that our lord Jesus christ is not a levite( no one from his tribe of Judah ever gave attendance at the alter).The bible makes it clear that even our lord Jesus christ was not qualified to collect tithes becos of his tribe, how much less mordern day pastors. Strictly speaking in those days only the descendnts of Levi (levites) could accept that aspect of tithe meant for the temple. but today we have pastors claiming to representing levites just becos they want to collect tithes. Another point worthy of note is that even in Israel today we have jews who are still under the law yet they have stopped the practise of tithing. the reason being that since the fall of Jerusalem in AD70 and the jewish people dispersed to various countries all over the world before coming back as a nation in 1948 the various tribes in Israel intermarried and it was impossible for them to retain their tribal identities after over one thousand years away from their homeland, hence the levites can't be distinguished again and they had to stop the practise. These were the people who the law was handed to and they understood the law well. I now wonder that even the jews that are still under the law have since stopped this practise becos it is no longer practical as directed in the bible, while we christians that are under his grace and free from the law are still struggling to keep just that aspect of the law. To me the reason is obvious, becos the tithe being preached is not as it was directed. the reason is the selfish desire/greed for material wealth by the preachers promoting it.

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This is the truth we have been telling you about tithes.We no more live in an agrarian society.In our society today,for the majority,the increase/income is money

I don't know which yeye goal was scored here probly an own goal. Free will offerings as encouraged by paul in 2 corinthians 9: 7, meant we could give cheerfully what ever our heart desired, we are not even under compulsion to give offerings talkless of the burnt offerings your friend so mischieviously refered to in his misquote of the bible. Tithes was a specific instruction from God to the people of Israel at that time and the administation of tithes and what it was was clearly defined in the bible as well in the books of deuteronomy, levticus, numbers and nehimaih. and as i have always said all these passages make it clear that tithes was strictly farm produce. The silly argument that people used farm produce to pay tithes in those days becos it was an agrarian society does not hold any water becos money was already widely in use at that time and it as not acceptable as tithes, besides people that were earning wages at that time were not required to tithe, tithe was never from eanings it was from produce of the land and it was don once a year, or once in three years depending on the type of tithes. In answer to your question on why i don't use sacrificial offerings to pay my offerings, i am not even under compulsion to give at all, i choose to give freely and cheerfully what ever i desire be it money or in kind to the work of God and God's work is not only to the church, but to the poor and the needy who live around us. Also on the mis-quote of tithes being ten percent of one's increase and relating increase to mean income, this is another fraud. the increase here was strictly increase "that your land produces each year" the bible was always consistent that tithes was strictly farm produce. So you guys should stop misquoting and misinterpreting the word of God.

@Kunle
yeah i agree that the entire time that tithe was mention it spoke about farm yieldings, but if i may ask you now, i do not farm, so i have no crop yeilding, and like we have established, you pay tithes on a personal basis of what you are led to do in your spirit, now do i have to go start farming to be able to obey this leading? and also where the bible says to bring in your first increase, do i have to go do farming just to fulfill this, even when he has showed me that my purpose is no where close to farming, and neither is my profession. Could you just imagine Jesus in our time now, would he be wearing the robes of those times, and the sandals? no way, He would be wearing nice luvly fitted Suits or watever. now to my own understanding and what the holy spirit made me understand when he was teaching me about tithes, for the bible always referring to farming increases and not money or watever in those scriptures i would say the money that the people had, come fromn selling their farm produce, and if you check the history of those times farming was the major occupation, and even people wealth were not measured with money it was measured by the extent and size of their farmings and not their money, so that was wat their lives depended upon, so that was where their tithe was demanded from, so now agreed tithe is not compulspry, but if yuo wr to by anychance be led in your spirit to pay tithes, how would you pay it? go start farming? no harm meant, and please i was just joking. but seriously lets understand that the Holyspirit interpretes the scripture to everyone in different ways so dont lets just consider the logos but also the rhema. i know that somepple are just ignorant and so just turn the bible upside down but still lets not just conclude by what we read in the letter, but also consult the holy spirit to interprete to us that which he has written. also we should not just depend on what pastor say, but also to seek with God, revelations about his word.

@lystola
My objection is not to giving whatever percentage of your income you choose to give to the church, my objection is to the use of the word tithe and the preaching of tithes in christian churches. Biblical tithing is completely different from tithes in the christian churches today and the basis for biblical tithing no longer exists. The descendants of Levi (Levites) were only allowed to collect tithes becos they had no land of their own, is that basis is applicable today??Also the levites who were the only ones that could collect tithes no longer exists today even though some people falsely claim to represent levites( i wonder why these pastors don't adopt the other part of the levite law that forbids them from owning property). Besides as i said in my earlier post only those who produced from the land were required to tithe biblically other people who had different vocations never tithed and even those that tithed only tithed from the produce of the land and not their other sources of income. Also remember they ate out of their tithes and gave to the poor out of it, not everything was given to the levites. The mistake we are makng is equating tithes to giving to God. Tithes was giving to the Levites becos they had no land of there own. Tithes was also a form of giving reverence to God through feasting in his house of worship. deut 14 22:29. So my brother if you are giving ten percent of your income to your church, you are not actually tithing you are just giving. As you mentioned earlier you are giving from your heart which is good but what of the several innocent christians that are giving under guilt and are living in penury because they are being deceived into beleiving is compulsary. and at the end of the day they don't experience any blessings as a result of "tithing". some of this christians eventually become disgruntled and loose their faith just becos their pastors have decieved them about the truth about tithes and led them astray.

Hi i'm just curious are you born again? are you a student of the bible? malachi 3:8, was God speaking to the entire house of jacob not just the levites please read it when you can, in verse 10. God challenged them to use it to prove him therein.pls read it up. Because jesus came and died for both the house of jacob( israel) and the gentiles and any one who believes will be saved. So all the statutes he( God) gave them (israelites) we must adopt and live by it. You can't pay tithe and starve unless you dont know God and his promises to them that seek him diligently. Read psalm 119:67 pls. In the days of old farming was the only source of income now we have gazillion things you can do to earn a living. The bible says one tenth of your earnings not your farm produce only. think on it!

@royce29
I suggest you go and read this thread from the beginning or at least the original post before commenting on this thread, there is no one that as heard about tithes that malachi 3 :8-10 as not been mis-quoted to so you don't need to remind me of that passage, i have studied it thoroughly and i understand it better than most christians. This post seeks to tell you the whole truth about tithes which you haven't been told in your church. I can assure you that you would undertand tithes a lot better after you do. And my dear being born again as absolutely nothing to do wth an unscriptural doctrine such as tithes. Besides christians were never required to tithe, in fact they were asked not to in hebrews 7 : 11-15, but your pastor won't tell you(i wonder why) . so if you are truly born again and you know your bible well you would know that as a christian you are not supposed to tithe. stop being deceived.

@KunleOshob
am waitin,you're are yet to answer my questions,here are some again
-Would God be displesed with a man for paying tithes on the Jugdement day?
-Is Matthew23v1,23 the Word of God and is it part of “teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded Matt28v20?
-Did Matthw 23v23 say that faith, judgement and mercy are the major/weightier part of the law?(the supposedly changed law)
-Do you trust your Pastor?

Also,Please show us all how I mis quoted scripture or quoted it out of context.Write the passage and give the correct commentary.Thank You.

I heard God said "I am the Lord,I change not" and it happens to be in Malachi3,your unbiased coments please.No pride

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Hebrews 7 answers ALL your questions COMPREHENSIVELY.
Go and read, study and meditate thereon. Paul was chosen by Christ to address issues such as these that He knew latter day false prophets will use to enslave His chosen ones who become too lazy to read His Word in a wholesome manner and understand what He is telling them.
I hope & pray you will repent before it is too late - Amen

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BTW Matthew 23 v 23 is addressed to the Pharisees themselves:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

As earlier stated in Malachi, the Levites of which the Pharisees are a subset are the ones rebuked for not paying tithes of the portion they collect annually and triennially after the giver has also given to strangers, poor people, widows, orphans etc. The earlier parts of Malachi clearly refers to the stinginess and poor quality of tithes sacrificed to God by these Levites.
Pity on those CHRISTians who cannot read extensively their Bible and allow themselves to be misled by wolves in sheep's clothing.

@anonimi
Thanx for answering part of the questions directed to by our brother Image 123

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@KunleOshob
am waitin,you're are yet to answer my questions,here are some again
-Would God be displesed with a man for paying tithes on the Jugdement day?
-Is Matthew23v1,23 the Word of God and is it part of “teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded Matt28v20?
-Did Matthw 23v23 say that faith, judgement and mercy are the major/weightier part of the law?(the supposedly changed law)
-Do you trust your Pastor?

Also,Please show us all how I mis quoted scripture or quoted it out of context.Write the passage and give the correct commentary.Thank You.

I heard God said "I am the Lord,I change not" and it happens to be in Malachi3,your unbiased coments please.No pride

@Image 123
God would not be displeased at any one for paying tithes, but i am sure God would b displeased at the preachers deceiving people to paying it through the manipulation of his word. Even though God does not change in principle certain things have changed about the way he is worshiped and that is why we don't offer burnt sacrifices again. And as far as tithes is concerned, it is not even relevant to us as there are no Levites existing today who are ordained to collect the tithes so the issue of change does not even arise. And lastly i put my trust in God and not men, not even my pastor. The word of God is there for all to read, i don't need my pastor to tell me what the word of God says. On the issue of mis-quoting the scriptures, that is very easy go and read all your posts again, it is full of mis quotes even the matthew 23 you cited earlier you are quoting it out of context, in that passage Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees who were under the law at that time for paying tithes and leaving the more important issues, he was not preaching it as you would like us to believe. he just made a reference to it. tithes was not the issue there.

uncle kuns, well done oh!

@Image 123
God would not be displeased at any one for paying tithes,

Hi,so stop urging people to stop paying tithes.Testimonis continue to abound of how God blesses people who paid their tithes.Tithes was before the Levitical preisthood.you've continually ignored the fact that Abraham paid tithes(not to Levites) and Jacob vowed to SURELY give tithe of all God gave him in Genesis28.This was before Levi was born,not to mention priest Aaron.Others collected and collect tithes,not only levi.The point made in Hebrews is the Superiority of Christ's priesthood, not his disqualification to receive tithes .Get wisdom.

And you should trust your own Pastor.Love thinks no evil and it believes.If you do not love your own brother/pastor which you see,how can you love God? I John4v20

whether God is rebuking Jonah or Sodom,Moses or Pharaoh,Scribes and pharisees or James and John.All believers have lessons to learn so stop pushing the verse to the phatrisees.Matt 23v1 is clear on who the message is for(everyboyy including disciples).and just so u dont repeat it again,pharisees are not a subset of levites ah ah.

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whether God is rebuking Jonah or Sodom,Moses or Pharaoh,Scribes and pharisees or James and John.All believers have lessons to learn so stop pushing the verse to the phatrisees.Matt 23v1 is clear on who the message is for(everyboyy including disciples).

When them say u dey misquote you go say no be so, well see the first verses of Matthew 23

1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

And the theme of castigating the scribes and Pharisees continues throughout the chapter including their (scribes & Pharisees) not paying tithes as required of them (scribes & Pharisees) in verse 23.

Malachi is also very clear about its admonition addressed to the Levites vis-a-vis their not meeting their requirement as priests to pay their tithes by offering quality sacrifices.
Malachi 1:

6 A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the Lord of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?
7 Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the Lord is contemptible.
8 And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the Lord of hosts.
9 And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the Lord of hosts.
10 Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the Lord of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts.
12 But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the Lord is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.
13 Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the Lord of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the Lord.
14 But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the Lord of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.

Interesting topic!!
@Image 123
what version of the bible do you use?? from your posts i see you are very good at editting the bible can you imagine all the illogical logic you have been posting just to deceive people into paying tithes even when your fellow posters have established biblically that tithing as no place in christianity or it is at best optional. In my opinion, i believe the church as erred as far as tithing is concercned. the church owes it to the congregation to tell them the real truths about tithes as is described in the bible people should then be left to decide if they want to pay it or not and how they want to pay whether in cash or kind as stated in the bible, or wether they want to use it to celebrate and use it to drink wine or strong dink as stated in deuteronomy. As for me i choose to use my own to drink beer

@Image 123
I found this passage for you just in case you are tithe collecting pastor, apostle paul already predicted that people like you would preach false doctrines to en-rich themselves

Passage 1 Timothy 6:3-6:

Love of Money
3If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 6But godliness with contentment is great gain.

Jagoon,

Many thanks for your powerful quote.
God bless you and yours abundantly - Amen

Since the beginning of time, people have always been trying to find loopholes in the law of God that will let them off doing something they find difficult/unpalatable or that will allow them chose their own way apart from God's.

For example, if someone wants to find a biblical licence for premarital sex, I'm sure he will be able to twist a few scriptures around (possibly from Song of Solomon) to support his depravity.

It's not a new thing, and we shouldn't be caught by surprise because Scripture had foretold it,

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [2 Timothy 4:3]

But,

Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his.
And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 2 Timothy 2:19

Now some advice to both protagonists and antagonists on this most interesting thread:

1. If you find the idea of paying tithe odious, for goodness sake - DON'T DO IT!!! - it's your life not mine. But stop pushing on us a cockeyed interpretation of scripture. Remember this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20  

2. If you are a faithful tither who is being swayed by the persuasive words of KunleOshob, please hold on to what you believe and keep on doing what you know is right. I'm a tither and I can tell you with all confidence --- IT WORKS!

Yohanan,

Many thanks for providing the analogy with fornication (and other sexual immoralities) of finding loopholes in God's law. You also concluded that you are a tither and encouraged others to continue tithing because it works.
I suppose you realise that fornication & other sexual immoralities also work for those who engage in it hence its popularity despite the Bible clearly stating that it is sinful. It works even beyond providing the short term pleasure and long term pleasurable thoughts to everlasting results of a child being born, sometimes "glorified" as a love child. That was the case with King David and Bathsheba (2 Samuel 11). It also does not matter that the majority is doing it as was the case in Sodom & Gomorrah, its sinful nature and subsequent repercussion does not change (Genesis 13).
Going through the 10 pages of this discussion gracefully started & sustained by Kunle, it is clear beyond any doubt that tithe is NOT Biblical. The closest thing to the old testament practice is the "harvest festivals" that used to be celebrated by established churches. I do not know if they still do it. The new testament is unambiguously clear about its complete rejection.
Furthermore the pastor who continues to place his congregation in such tithe-guilt-trap is not only committing sin by going against God's law but also leading others to sin just as a seducer will lead his co-fornicator or adulterer into sin.
Will the justification of "I was misled into the sin" of tithe be acceptable despite having the Bible as our guide You may read Luke 16: 19-31, in particular verse
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

to draw your response.

Remain blessed.

YOHANAN:



2. If you are a faithful tither who is being swayed by the persuasive words of KunleOshob, please hold on to what you believe and keep on doing what you know is right. I'm a tither and I can tell you with all confidence --- IT WORKS!

@YOHANAN
I am not trying to persuade anybody not to tithe, i am only trying to let people know the real truth about tithes that they have not been told in their churches, besides i don't need to persuade anybody not to tithe at least in the biblical sense, because biblical tithing does not exist today, what is called tithing today is simply the manipulation of the word of God to satisfy a few pockets. despite the serveral pro -tithes people on this thread not one of you as been able to justify that tithes as it obtains in today's church is the word of God. rather we have been able to establish beyond reasonable doubth that tithing as it is practised in today's churches is completely un-scriptural. As i have always said i am not against people giving whatever percentage of their income to the church, what upsets and depresses me is that churches that are supposed to be above board and be holy, truthful and exemplary would resort to outright lies deceit, and manipulation of the word of God in the pursuit of material wealth. "THE CHURCH OWES IT TO THE CONGREGATION TO TELL THEM THE REAL TRUTH"  that is my stand.
on the issue of tithes working, that is another lie i have observed in close proximity of my friends and relatives who tithe faithfully, and you know what? they are always broke and they have to depend on non tithers like me to bail them out. then the following sunday you would hear them giving yeye testimony of how they "miraculously" got a financial blessing when they were broke. the truth is that there is no evidence at all that tithers are more blessed than non tithers so stop deceiving your self. Blessings can't be bought at any price. the bible tells us to give freely and "NOT UNDER COMPULSION"

KunleOshob:

on the issue of tithes working, that is another lie i have observed in close proximity of my friends and relatives who tithe faithfully, and you know what? they are always broke and they have to depend on non tithers like me to bail them out. then the following sunday you would hear them giving yeye testimony of how they "miraculously" got a financial blessing when they were broke. the truth is that there is no evidence at all that tithers are more blessed than non tithers so stop deceiving your self. Blessings can't be bought at any price. the bible tells us to give freely and "NOT UNDER COMPULSION"

For some time i was only reading not making any contribution again but you said something that i think should be corrected.
My dear, paying of tithe neither makes you reach nor poor. Tell me is every non-tither reach?
I said it before, Tithe is part of the commandment which was written in the Bible, you are not doing a wrong thing
by paying it rather fulfilling the scripture.

REVELATION 22: 10-22
10  Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.
11  Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who
does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."

12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
13  I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
18  I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will
      add to him the plagues described in this book.
19  And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life
      and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
20 He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon."
      Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

As for giving under compulsion: How many people have come to you to complain
that they were been forced to pay tithe?Or Which pastor have you seen compelling people to pay their tithes?

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As for giving under compulsion: How many people have come to you to complain
that they were been forced to pay tithe?Or Which pastor have you seen compelling people to pay their tithes?

@Kola Oloye
It is common knowledge that some pastors use inimidation an deception (the whole concept of tithing today is deception) to get people to pay tithes. They are under the false impression that "tithing" is demanded of them by God hence they feel under cumpulsion to pay it. ANy pastor presenting tithing to his congregation as the word of God is forcing hie congregation to pay.

As usual you have not addressed the issues at stake which is 1. what is the real truth about biblical tithing as defined by the scriptures (not mordern day church interpretation). 2. As christians are we supposed to pay it hebrews 7 : 11-15 says we shouldn't. This two points have been discussed here extensively so i won't repeat them again.

On this issue of tithing this is where i stand
MATTHEW 5:17 Jesus said
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;
I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Jagoon:

@Kola Oloye
It is common knowledge that some pastors use inimidation an deception (the whole concept of tithing today is deception) to get people to pay tithes. They are under the false impression that "tithing" is demanded of them by God hence they feel under cumpulsion to pay it. ANy pastor presenting tithing to his congregation as the word of God is forcing hie congregation to pay.

At this age Nobody in his or her right mind should allow anybody to force him to do anything against his or her own will (good or bad).
Do you know that after being preached to in the church not to fornicate some people still make fornication their hobby?
Likewise, whosoever determined is his mind not to be pushed about could also hear the message on tithe and still remain adamant.
This is my point:THE LIFE YOU LIVE IS YOURS SO YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICE IN EVERYTHING.
LET anyone that stands on Matthew 5:17 continues and otherwise also.Thank you.

@Kola Oloye
My point is that pastors should tell their congregation the real truth about tithes and stop mis-leading them if after that the congreagation still decides to give 110% of their income to the church no problem, but the church must always speak the truth. And pastors should not lead their flock astray.

Kola,

You seem to be missing the point on several fronts, which had been stated earlier but I will repeat since you seem not to have grasped teh gist of the matter:

1. Even in the old testament, tithes (defined as 10% of your income) is NOT required. See Deuteronomy 14: 22-29. As I said earlier the closest to it was the harvest festivals held by some churches.
2. It was the priests/levites who were supposed to offer regular burnt sacrifice at the altar from the portion of tithes that they collected yearly and triennially as specified in Deuteronomy quote above.
3. Paul, addressing himself to Jews, being a learned Jewish zealot as well before conversion, clearly said the law of tithe has changed i.e. fulfilled by Christs death & resurrection even including for the priests/levites who had to offer sacrifices at the altar. Hebrews 7: 1-11
4. Do you realise that FULFIL[color=#990000][/color] also means complete, accomplish, bring to an end something as in the law
5. So when you quote Revelations 22:11, it is those pastors that continue to intimidate and con their congeregation into tithe guilt that need to take heed.

Shalom

May God have mercy on us all because it is only him who know who are truly worhsipping him. Having said that, i must give kiddos to that post that took time to shed light on what the bible says.
I believe we should pay our tithe which is 10% so that the remaining would be meaningful and God will bless the works of our hands. Indeed , there will be no robbers in heaven and not paying your tithe amounts to robbery.
The word of God should not be interpreted wrongly , we should take our bible study serious so we dont get misleaded by false prophets.
Just pray for guidance as you read the scripture and the holy spirit will direct you

@dayo1401
You obviously haven't read your bible or this thread very well

Money and the church

Passage 1 Timothy 6:3-10:
3But if anyone teaches otherwise and does not [a]assent to the sound and wholesome messages of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and the teaching which is in agreement with godliness (piety toward God),
    4He is puffed up with pride and stupefied with conceit, [although he is] woefully ignorant. He has a morbid fondness for controversy and disputes and strife about words, which result in (produce) envy and jealousy, quarrels and dissension, abuse and insults and slander, and base suspicions,

    5And protracted wrangling and wearing discussion and perpetual friction among men who are corrupted in mind and bereft of the truth, who imagine that godliness or righteousness is a source of profit a moneymaking business, a means of livelihood. From such withdraw.

    6[And it is, indeed, a source of immense profit, for] godliness accompanied with contentment (that contentment which is a sense of [d]inward sufficiency) is great and abundant gain.

    7For we brought nothing into the world, and obviously we cannot take anything out of the world;

    8But if we have food and clothing, with these we shall be content (satisfied).

    9But those who crave to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and into many foolish (useless, godless) and hurtful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction and miserable perishing.

    10For the love of money is a root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have been led astray and have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves through with many [e]acute [mental] pangs.

I Just came across this passage, very interesting Apostle Paul correctly predicted almost 2000 years ago what is happening today. People are using churches as a money making business, the most potent weapon of this business being tithes which have already dicussed exhausizely on this thread. What more can i say

funny people quoting and mis/un quoting