As for me o, i don't think praying loudly is d best way to get ur prayers answered quickly. I think praying loudly is just dat we're disturbing God, cos d bible made me to understand dat our murmuring is like d sound of a large ocean, talkless of wen we shout.

This is a very interesting topic. In the catholic church, we're thought to pray in the best way we know how to but you must not disturb the people around you. I always pray silently no matter where I am. I don't believe in shouting or shaking vigorously and dancing while praying. Some people will be praying for the God to open the gate of blessings to them and then they start shouting and moving their hand in a way that looks like they are opening a gate. I always feel like laughing(not mockingly but as something that looks very funny to me) anytime I see people praying like this. It's so bad that some people pray for God to heal them of headache and as they pray, they shake their heads vigorously... God also told us to be wise.. All in all, I guess it depends on the way the individual knows how to pray best afterall, God still answers their prayers, I guess what matters most to God is the heart. As for me I see absolutely no reason why I should shout while I'm praying, it just doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes, I pray without moving my lips not even once, I'll say everything in my mind and when I'm done I know my prayers are answered.

The Point here is that, even though jesus in a particular occasion,….. a ‘one off’ and NOT his usual practice of praying when he prayed with tears,
but he laid an example or commands a standard of praying for his followers, stated clearly below;
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, [size=18pt]thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are[/size]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. [size=18pt]Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.[/size]

Mat 6:6: But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


Mat 6:7: But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.


Mat 6:8: Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

We are to follow what jesus commands, and not a ‘one off situation that was not commanded!
bible does not contradict pls, follow jesus commands!

@Vicrobor

You say you are a JW, and you don't engage in loud prayers. I wonder if you have read one of the watchtower Society publications 'KNOWLEDGE THAT LEADS TO EVERLASTING LIFE' on page 116 there was this man a JW to be that was being harrassed by demons and the book advised to pray aloud.

pray aloud in what circumstance?

yes,the man (a proposed and interested individual who wants to become a JW) harrassed by an alledged evil spirit from cote d'vior was advised to 'in an event of hearing the strange voice' that he normally encounter strangely, that 'he should call on Gods name loudly' citing proverbs 18:10 that ''the Name of God is a refuge,that the righteous ran into,and was saved''

does this particular 'rare instance of a one off, a standard recommended for prayer by the book'? noo, if you read further, after the man was relieved of the strange voice there is no mention of further prayers with loud utterances from the man, neither does the man makes 'loud prayer a standard'.a one-off situation cannot be a reccomended standard of praying.

it would have been superflous for jesus to render this verse as a reccomended standard for his followers;

mathew 6:7

But[size=18pt] when ye pray, use not vain repetitions[/size], as the heathen [do]:[size=18pt] for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.[/size]


pls dont misquote the book!

I prefer to pray quietly. And to be honest, I dislike loud prayers, I find it disturbing and unecessary.

Whether you pray loudly or quietly isn't important, it's the condition of your heart and how fine tuned you are in the spirit.

Nevertheless, i believe you should speak the words 'out'...whether u decide to shout it or say it gently that only d person next to u will hear is totally your problem.

"with our heart we believe unto righteousness, and with our mouth confess unto salvation".

N_girl: This is a very interesting topic. In the catholic church, we're thought to pray in the best way we know how to but you must not disturb the people around you. I always pray silently no matter where I am. I don't believe in shouting or shaking vigorously and dancing while praying. Some people will be praying for the God to open the gate of blessings to them and then they start shouting and moving their hand in a way that looks like they are opening a gate. I always feel like laughing(not mockingly but as something that looks very funny to me) anytime I see people praying like this. It's so bad that some people pray for God to heal them of headache and as they pray, they shake their heads vigorously... God also told us to be wise.. All in all, I guess it depends on the way the individual knows how to pray best afterall, God still answers their prayers, I guess what matters most to God is the heart. As for me I see absolutely no reason why I should shout while I'm praying, it just doesn't make sense to me. Sometimes, I pray without moving my lips not even once, I'll say everything in my mind and when I'm done I know my prayers are answered.

when u see strong thing,u go pray loud.

Praying quietly is a better option, however the most important thing is that we are connected to
God.

Pour moi, I would say there are different phases of prayer... And while it is very possible to pray aloud during the introductory aspect of praises, and thanksgiving etc....when the major communication with God occurs there are times you got to be STILL in order to hear God speak to you...this is where you see yourself having a chat with God, so you wouldn't want to shout...but listen attentively while you commune with Him. It's just like getting into another realm, entering into His Holy of Holies...


@Frosbel
it is not out of place to instruct people to pray out loud, it isn't
outrightly wrong...oftentimes prayer leaders do this so as to discourage anyone from sleeping....*winks* And it helps...atleast we could keep praying out loud until we get into the REAL business of REAL communicating and hearing God speak.

Shalom...

But to my suprise this verse contradicted their teachings
Mat 6:6: But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.[/a]

Even the so called praying in tounges is a contradiction to this verse
[b]Mat 6:7: But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Today you'll see so many christians shouting:
ba ba ba ba.. Bo bo bo bo... Ray ray ray ray x100

And the last verse to prove my point;
Mat 6:8: Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
[/quote]


This is right but at the same time depends on how grieved a person is that is praying and wants to call out to GOD. But it should be done in your prayer closet. Praying in your prayer closet and praying aloud is also good to be honest in chasing demons away and evil spirits. When you have been in a spiritual battle you will know this. Regardless when you plead the blood of JESUS in your mind this is still extremely effective. GOD Is mighty unstoppable he sees each tear, knows every thought. He is an awesome GOD he reigns

Mr Man, if you want to mention the almighty's name, do say it right. Its is JESUS not 'jizz-us'. Stop being a pervert. Now we know what you waste all your internet data bundle on........PORNADDICT!!!!!!

advocate666:

There are many instances, especially in the old testament. But consider this about Jizz-Us himslef.

Hebrews 5:7

7 In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence.

Tell me the difference between singing (shouting) and praying? Anyway you can shout when praying in the church but not in private prayers. But overshouting without direction is baseless. die, die, die

The Author of this thread I believe is a clairvoyant someborry. You had my cousin in mind wen you posted this for this minute she walks the whole village compound clapping loud and babbling loud mantras and bothering the nebors(Her modus operandi back in lagos).

I have never been a fan of loud & violent prayer style/sweg. It has become a norm to see pple jerking heads as if nodding on invisible footballs, flinging hands in the air as if dacing azonto, or throwing stones at invisible foes. They beat the air as if it was the origin of their immidiate problems.

That baffles me AF. Yet, I judge not. It is the way they learnt...their way. It is not mine.
In all its just a belief system. They belive if they do not shout,punch the air, girate that lord will not hear, and it works for them that way. I donot bliv this.

I believe I walk into a quiet place. Kneel pray, cry to the lord in whispers, and I know the lord is there just beside me, telling me its gon be alryt. And this works for me.

Definitely praying quietly! It gets on my nerves when people pray so loudly! Is God deaf?

I view God as my heavenly Father. If I do not shout when I'm talking to my earthly Dad, why should I shout when I'm talking to my Heavenly Father?

It's to do with respecting the Words of ALLAH (SWT); if someone's reading aloud, and the people around that person are going about their business, then that is the highest forms of disrespect .
Also, it may put others in undue hardship - i.e. if a Verse of Prostration is recited, then it will become Fard on those who hear it, to perform Sajdah.
Not sure if they have to do it immediately; insha'Allah, someone can expand on that.
Sign:
'Nor say of anything,"I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" without adding, " So please Allah." (18:23-24)
QuranExplorer.com , where you can Listen to the Holy Recitation and Translation online in Arabic and English : http://www.quranexplorer.com/Default.aspx

When you're asked to pray in a midst of people, you have to pray aloud in order for them to hear what you're saying and can agree to it by saying Amen(so be it) to it... But on the other hand, like Matt 6 puts it, praying silently is required by xtians. Can the one who created the ears not hear?

There is always a thread on christianity,to make it seem like christians dnt knw wat D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ r doing. Praying loudly or quietly depends on d issue U̶̲̥̅̊ are addreSsing. A christian wen praying in thanksgiving does it quietly,bt one wit a serious issue dat nids Gods intervention myt nt pray d same way. Either way our God still answers our prayers. Stop quoting scriptures that U̶̲̥̅̊ r blind to.

I think this issue is based on ones personality.

i pray silently. God lives within so there is no need for me to yell or say them aloud.
sometimes i do so with my eyes closed but most times with them open.

Prayin loud doesn't mean God hears more,it just depends on d realm u r,der's a stage u get to in prayer dt u can't hold it any longer nd u r no longer in charge,d holy spirit's in charge @ dt point..........prayin quietly doesn't also mean dt God isn't listenin,ur spirit may just b subtle nd gentle,sometym ppl start off prayers quietly nd b4 u know it,dey r roarin in prayers..................... ,m nt sayin der r no hypocrites too

Silent or Quiet prayer, God answers!!

the muslims can explain better.

The topic praying loudly Vs praying quietly is a pretty subjective topic, why? because there are different type of prayers, prayer of praise/supplication, prayer of requests, warfare prayers, intercessory prayers..etc, when making a request to God you don't need to pray loud but infact at times your prayer mood drives you to do so, when on intercessory prayers u can also either pray loud or quietly, for warfare prayers i doubt if you can pray quietly or when being attacked by a demon, ur prayer mood automatically changes to an aggression mood and thus praying aloud.

My conclusion to this topic is that it all depend on the type of prayer and how the spirit leads you, if the Spirit of God is actually leading u to pray quietly and you are praying aloud, then there is an atom of hypocrisy there and i guess that's what jesus was trying to point out in certain verses of the scriptures..so it all depends, no one should see either way of praying as wrong.

Image123: the two are good, it depends on situations and what you're demanding.

bros., your response is not acceptable. This is very important issue here. Last year a junior friend sold his storey building of four flats, as a result of very strong prayer such as ho ho ho po po po, kid kid, kia kia kia, ko ko ki ki ki etc. Yes no normal persons can comfortably lived there because i visited my friend many times.
Heatblast above has done nice job by pin pointing bible versions why secret prayer is better. So merely saying the two are good depending the circumstance is not good enough. It will be better to start doing the right things in this country because almost everything is falling apart. So may people sees life as nothing. Many nigerians are highly indesciple. Let's try to straighten things. (note that my complaints are not direct at you) Thanks

i like praying quietly but dere r sometimes i sound loudly not intentionally neither trying to pls anybody

for me i don't think it's about shouting or not shouting;i think it's more about FAITH
-do you believe God exists?
-do you believe he can do/give you what you are asking for?
-do you believe he will answer your prayers?...in short;DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN GOD?...dis are d fundamentals.it's not shouting or not shouting when praying.....Remember without FAITH it is IMPOSSIBLE to please GOD.

haxan919: It's to do with respecting the Words of ALLAH (SWT); if someone's reading aloud, and the people around that person are going about their business, then that is the highest forms of disrespect .
Also, it may put others in undue hardship - i.e. if a Verse of Prostration is recited, then it will become Fard on those who hear it, to perform Sajdah.
Not sure if they have to do it immediately; insha'Allah, someone can expand on that.
Sign:
'Nor say of anything,"I shall be sure to do so and so tomorrow" without adding, " So please Allah." (18:23-24)
QuranExplorer.com , where you can Listen to the Holy Recitation and Translation online in Arabic and English : http://www.quranexplorer.com/Default.aspx

Are u aware this is Christianity section and thread?

bel-d-cat:
for me i don't think it's about shouting or not shouting;i think it's more about FAITH
-do you believe God exists?
-do you believe he can do/give you what you are asking for?
-do you believe he will answer your prayers?...in short;DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN GOD?...dis are d fundamentals.it's not shouting or not shouting when praying.....Remember without FAITH it is IMPOSSIBLE to please GOD.

U are drifting from the topic, we all know about faith while praying but isn't it possible to have all the faith in the world and yet pray aloud to get attention, thus being an hypocrite? Will such prayer be answered even with the level of faith involved?
That's not what we are talkin about, must praying aloud be forced on christians or not? When should we pray either way? Should praying aloud be done to disturb pple? And in general just give your view on the issue of praying aloud/quietly and how it should be seen, i guess that's what everyone has been adressing on this thread, we all know that "without faith it is impossible to please God"

I stopped engaging in religious arguements some time ago. Do as it pleasures u, dear.

Sum pple get xcited wen dey pray aloud and in sum cases mistake dier xcitement for d descent of d holyghost..nd den d false tongues suffice..
D fact is dat yu dont get d same feeling wen u pray in silence...xcept if u re truly born again.
I prefer to pray in silence...ive done loud prayer b4 nd its not really necessary xcept in praises

i believe na as body de do u na so u go pray. sometimes, you feel soooo strongly bout something that you talk with passion! however, no be everyday person de talk with passion. some people cite instances in the bible where people were praying out loud. or praying in the way people would notice them. but note, these people were not praying a simple, thank you for waking me up this morning or a simple dear lord let them mama down d road not come and disturb me again today.

Hannah who's prayer was in the manner of one who was drunk, was praying for a child. the matter hard am for mind and that's what made her pray sooooo hard. if you dont feel it, dnt fake it. the way i'd pray for even the same issue at the beginning of the issue is not the way i will pray for the same issue if its not been solved years later. by then, i'id probably be desperate and really hurting and really want God to deal with it. so, you sitting beside me in church, dnt now follow me to shout. no be as e de do you e de do me. and by the time you see me another day praying quitely, dnt now say i was pretending the day before.

Atheist:-D:


Xtians and their riddles .... err.... parables.

Some people are just sentimental. When muslims pray on there own in their closet, they tend to pray quietly but pls let dem get to a naming ceremony or their nasfat or all those programmes. They turn to ahuja speaker or home theatre. Its so unfortunate dt whenever we see a post all we tend to do is judge on religion which the victim most time is christianity cos christians don't hav d attitude of condenming you people. God will forgive you all the same. I teach in a muslim school and I know how they pray. I live close to a mosque and there noise no they make me rest; even when am having my quite time with my maker. So let's treat the topic based on our believes. Thank God the topic was not on any religion. It good when we have our sense and we use it.

My take is that God doesn't care wether you shout or not. Its your motive dt matters. Please stop judging religion.
If you are shouting so that your fellow human being can see your need, good for you. And if you are whispering so that people won't know that you have hiv and you are praying for healing. Still God for you. But God who sees you in secret will reward you in open.


Its the circumstance on ground that determines your noise level(environment, what you are going through and your relationship with your God) that's my opinion.

I hope it has met d need.

[size=28pt]No pastor and nobody, except the Holy Spirit can tell you how to communicate with God.
It may be in silent thoughts, praying aloud or solemn words.
God hears all prayers and answers all prayers.
Either YES or NO.
But God is not deaf, so avoid vain repetitions.[/size]
[size=18pt]
Ask, Seek, Knock

7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

The Narrow and Wide Gates

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

True and False Prophets

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

~ Our Messiah Jesus Christ in Matthew 7:7-20 (New International Version)[/size]