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Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 5:54pm On Feb 10, 2013
plaetton:

Philosophy, by that basic definition, encompasses all learning and all attempts to learn.

That would be correct if qualified as: all learning and attempts to learn about the nature of existential reality.

This is why the attempt of yourself and Sir R.E.R to nonsensify the discussion by rendering any discipline whatsoever as philosophy must fail: because philosophy is reasoning about existential reality and not just random musing on every random topic, such that you may by that sleight of hand attempt to render me as saying that the study of the psychology of strippers is also philosophy; albeit that it very well may be on a scale that I will not ascend to at this juncture.

Now Mathematics, is exactly the most fundamental building block of existential thinking. This is what makes it the most important founding bloc of philosophy.

Mathematicians seek out patterns[9][10] and formulate new conjectures. Mathematicians resolve the truth or falsity of conjectures by mathematical proof.

And what do philosophers do? It is evident to me that you have a skewed and lamentably limited understanding of what philosophy is.

Basic Philosophy is speculation and conjectures.

And this here statement sir, sums it up! With every respect to your person I have to say that saying that basic philosophy is "speculation and conjecture" shows and proves that you have not the faintest idea of what philosophy is and have not been in contact with philosophy AT ALL. I am totally amazed at this coming from you, I would have been more at home with such lamentable ignorance proceeding from the mouth of logicboy; where it more properly belongs.

Basic philosophy sir; is not "speculation" or "conjecture".

Basic philosophy is the art of reasoning on existential reality.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 6:04pm On Feb 10, 2013
plaetton:

Ya.
If Mathematics is Philosophy, then you would not have a discipline called The Philosophy of Mathematics, would you?

And again. If music is art, then we could not have a discipline called the art of music. Or if War is strategy, then we would not have a book called the Art of War, or a course called the Strategy of War. And on and on and on. You just repeatedly show what poor understanding you have of this subject. I would advise you to go and study and read as widely as you can on both philosophy and mathematics and their history.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by plaetton: 7:26pm On Feb 10, 2013
Deep Sight:

That would be correct if qualified as: all learning and attempts to learn about the nature of existential reality.

This is why the attempt of yourself and Sir R.E.R to nonsensify the discussion by rendering any discipline whatsoever as philosophy must fail: because philosophy is reasoning about existential reality and not just random musing on every random topic, such that you may by that sleight of hand attempt to render me as saying that the study of the psychology of strippers is also philosophy; albeit that it very well may be on a scale that I will not ascend to at this juncture.

Now Mathematics, is exactly the most fundamental building block of existential thinking. This is what makes it the most important founding bloc of philosophy.



And what do philosophers do? It is evident to me that you have a skewed and lamentably limited understanding of what philosophy is.



And this here statement sir, sums it up! With every respect to your person I have to say that saying that basic philosophy is "speculation and conjecture" shows and proves that you have not the faintest idea of what philosophy is and have not been in contact with philosophy AT ALL. I am totally amazed at this coming from you, I would have been more at home with such lamentable ignorance proceeding from the mouth of logicboy; where it more properly belongs.

Basic philosophy sir; is not "speculation" or "conjecture".

Basic philosophy is the art of reasoning on existential reality.


Correction. basic philosophy is an ATTEMPT at reasoning on existential reality. The key word here being Attempt. The Art [/b]of doing something is different from an [b]Attempt at doing something.

You might as well say that philosophy is the art of knowing or understanding existence, rather than an attempt at knowing or understanding existence.

If philosophy was the art of reasoning on existential reality, then there would not be different schools of philosophy all expounding ideas that are sometimes at odds with one another. It's an Attempt . That is why there are many differing paths.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 7:40pm On Feb 10, 2013
Deep Sight:

And again. If music is art, then we could not have a discipline called the art of music. Or if War is strategy, then we would not have a book called the Art of War, or a course called the Strategy of War. And on and on and on. You just repeatedly show what poor understanding you have of this subject. I would advise you to go and study and read as widely as you can on both philosophy and mathematics and their history.




Fallacy of equivocation. Juxtaposing and mixing the different meanings of words as the same.

Art as a discipline vs Art as human creative skill or work


Your example with war does not apply because Plaetton was talking strictly in academic terms.

Philosophy and maths in an academic discipline.


Try again
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 8:27pm On Feb 10, 2013
Well right now I am philosophizing on the art and mathematics of Sunday Mba's goal; the philosophy of grass to grace and the mathematics of the dollars that will roll in to this boy soon. . .

Ol boys I no get una time. Una no sabi jack sh.it about philosophy. Enjoy.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 8:39pm On Feb 10, 2013
Deep Sight:
Well right now I am philosophizing on the art and mathematics of Sunday Mba's goal; the philosophy of grass to grace and the mathematics of the dollars that will roll in to this boy soon. . .

Ol boys I no get una time. Una no sabi jack sh.it about philosophy. Enjoy.


You know everything smiley
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 2:03am On Feb 11, 2013
Logicboy03:


You know everything smiley

Ah, finally you recognize my omniscience. T'would have done you some good to realise of course, much earlier, that I am omniscient.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 2:08am On Feb 11, 2013
Deep Sight:

Ah, finally you recognize my omniscience. T'would have done you some good to realise of course, much earlier, that I am omniscient.


lol......I like you but you seem to have some deep seated (sighted smiley) hatred for me.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 11:45am On Feb 11, 2013
Logicboy03:


lol......I like you but you seem to have some deep seated (sighted smiley) hatred for me.

SIR RER FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME I DO NOT HATE YOU ! ! !
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 12:20pm On Feb 11, 2013
Deep Sight:

SIR RER FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME I DO NOT HATE YOU ! ! !


How foolish. Calling me names and still claiming that you dont have an irrational hatred for me
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 3:25pm On Feb 11, 2013
Logicboy03:


How foolish. Calling me names and still claiming that you dont have an irrational hatred for me

Cant you take a light fond joke? What on earth is a Red eyed rabbit? Does any such creature exist? Come on! Stop being so sensitive!

I must add that it is even more rabbitish, to be as brash as you are and then turn sensitive at the slightest. Grow a thick skin man, if you want to play in the ring.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 3:32pm On Feb 11, 2013
Deep Sight:

Cant you take a light fond joke? What on earth is a Red eyed rabbit? Does any such creature exist? Come on! Stop being so sensitive!

I must add that it is even more rabbitish, to be as brash as you are and then turn sensitive at the slightest. Grow a thick skin man, if you want to play in the ring.


Ah...the real hate comes out smiley


It doesnt matter if the creature exists, it is the connotation and deeper meaning of the symbolism.

If I called you a rabid vampire, it still is an insult even though vampires do not exist
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 3:57pm On Feb 11, 2013
Logicboy03:


Ah...the real hate comes out smiley

Lol, Logicboy, you are so incurably funny and childish. Cute though.

If you have the time, go and look through my historical posts. Look out for posters called Viaro, davidylan, Tudor, Martian, Noetic, Enigma, Inesqor, Mavenbox and Pastor AIO. I had faaaaar more vitriolic contentions with all of these people on this forum, and with the exception of Enigma I can comfortably say that none of them hate me. . . for what? Nor do I hate them. In fact, I am friends with some of these people today outside nairaland.

It doesnt matter if the creature exists, it is the connotation and deeper meaning of the symbolism.

Ol boy you are too funny. Oya, tell me, what is the symbolism of RER? What is the connotation?

Its actually just a spin-off from a yab that Viaro used to give me on this same forum when I was arguing vehemently against christian doctrines such as the Trinity. He referred to me repeatedly as a "desperate red eyed cultist". Lol. Noetic too used to refer to me as an "anti-christ spawned from the pit of hell" No biggie mate. Its just part of the play. The rofo rofo.

Viaro was the greatest yabbis artist ever on this forum - also because be had the largest vocabulary and was a superb scholar and word-smith. I remember he also used to insist that my day-job was as a lavatory cleaner. So many yabbis in the good old days, it was hilarious fun. Of recent, even the otherwise amiable Jayriginal has been exasperated enough with me to let go a terrible wicked tirade on my person. Did it do us any harm? We still chuckle and say hi whenever we jam on the forum.

I actually think RER is particularly funny.

Whats your problem with it? What connotation do you think it has?

If I called you a rabid vampire, it still is an insult even though vampires do not exist

If you called me a rabid vampire, I would laugh and enjoy the jibe each time I read it. . .
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 4:20pm On Feb 11, 2013
Deep Sight:

Lol, Logicboy, you are so incurably funny and childish. Cute though.

If you have the time, go and look through my historical posts. Look out for posters called Viaro, davidylan, Tudor, Martian, Noetic, Enigma, Inesqor, Mavenbox and Pastor AIO. I had faaaaar more vitriolic contentions with all of these people on this forum, and with the exception of Enigma I can comfortably say that none of them hate me. . . for what? Nor do I hate them. In fact, I am friends with some of these people today outside nairaland.



Ol boy you are too funny. Oya, tell me, what is the symbolism of RER? What is the connotation?

Its actually just a spin-off from a yab that Viaro used to give me on this same forum when I was arguing vehemently against christian doctrines such as the Trinity. He referred to me repeatedly as a "desperate red eyed cultist". Lol. Noetic too used to refer to me as an "anti-christ spawned from the pit of hell" No biggie mate. Its just part of the play. The rofo rofo.

Viaro was the greatest yabbis artist ever on this forum - also because be had the largest vocabulary and was a superb scholar and word-smith. I remember he also used to insist that my day-job was as a lavatory cleaner. So many yabbis in the good old days, it was hilarious fun. Of recent, even the otherwise amiable Jayriginal has been exasperated enough with me to let go a terrible wicked tirade on my person. Did it do us any harm? We still chuckle and say hi whenever we jam on the forum.

I actually think RER is particularly funny.

Whats your problem with it? What connotation do you think it has?



If you called me a rabid vampire, I would laugh and enjoy the jibe each time I read it. . .




Yawn.


When you pay me a compliment without an insult, then I can take your "jokes" seriously.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by DeepSight(m): 5:20pm On Feb 11, 2013
Logicboy03:




Yawn.


When you pay me a compliment without an insult, then I can take your "jokes" seriously.

Why should you be desperate for compliments? A true seeker of truth should NEVER be interested in compliments. Say your piece, pursue your cause and render truth for what it is and ask people like Deep Sight and Anony to go to blazes. That is the proper attitude of an activist with conviction.

Otherwise you give me to believe that every thing you have done on this board is in search of compliments.

Surely, RER, not even you could possibly get so rabbity?

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Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 10:15pm On Feb 11, 2013
Deep Sight:

Why should you be desperate for compliments? A true seeker of truth should NEVER be interested in compliments. Say your piece, pursue your cause and render truth for what it is and ask people like Deep Sight and Anony to go to blazes. That is the proper attitude of an activist with conviction.

Otherwise you give me to believe that every thing you have done on this board is in search of compliments.

Surely, RER, not even you could possibly get so rabbity?


lol.....assumptions......


You are the only person I have ever asked for compliments here from. Why? Because like told Anony, you are the only one that truly hates me with a passion. I have shared laughter with all my "enemies" here on the religion section- image123, Frosbel, Tpia, etc.......never with you.

I even got maclatunji to make a joke ONCE.....you on the other hand, must always find some way to slide insult into every comment to me.



Who told you that I am an activist? I am a revolutionary cool


Big difference. Was only yesterday (actually mid last year) when Toba was laughing at me when I told him that wason a mission to wake Nigerians in their religious slumber.....now Toba is rigging elections in fear of me becoming something else on NL



If only real life was as easy as NL.....hmmm
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by MrAnony1(m): 9:17am On Feb 12, 2013
Logicboy03:
Yawn.


When you pay me a compliment without an insult, then I can take your "jokes" seriously.
You are being very childish and wimpy my friend. I am surprised at how fragile you are.

You insult almost everyone on this forum all the time and yet a tiny little tug at you and you turn into a self-indulgent cry-baby. Grow up mate, it is becoming really pathetic.
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 9:19am On Feb 12, 2013
Mr_Anony:
You are being very childish and wimpy my friend. I am surprised at how fragile you are.

You insult almost everyone on this forum all the time and yet a tiny little tug at you and you turn into a self-indulgent cry-baby. Grow up mate, it is becoming really pathetic.

Someone exaggerates and misses the point. Try and read my following comment above
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by MrAnony1(m): 9:28am On Feb 12, 2013
Logicboy03:

Someone exaggerates and misses the point. Try and read my following comment above
I have and all I see is a very needy and insecure human being begging to be liked.

I know for a fact that deepsight doesn't hate you, he just finds your noise-making childish and silly as do I and a lot of other people on this forum.
....And even if he did truly hate you, what difference would it make? Does that justify your begging him for compliments all the time like a needy child seeking approval?

Please do yourself a favour and grow up!
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by Nobody: 10:31am On Feb 12, 2013
Mr_Anony:
I have and all I see is a very needy and insecure human being begging to be liked.

I know for a fact that deepsight doesn't hate you, he just finds your noise-making childish and silly as do I and a lot of other people on this forum.
....And even if he did truly hate you, what difference would it make? Does that justify your begging him for compliments all the time like a needy child seeking approval?

Please do yourself a favour and grow up!



Anonyism or mind reading?


Thanks for adding your sbjective nterpretation of what Deepsight and I think. A sensible person would leave it up for me and Deespsight to sort our differences.



I love Anonyism smiley
Re: An Interview Of Richard Dawkins By Ben Stein by MrAnony1(m): 12:33pm On Feb 12, 2013
Logicboy03:



Anonyism or mind reading?


Thanks for adding your sbjective nterpretation of what Deepsight and I think. A sensible person would leave it up for me and Deespsight to sort our differences.



I love Anonyism smiley
I wasn't mind reading, just stating how it looks to me. That much I made clear in my reply.
Basically I've said: "I think X" and you've replied "Ah you think X therefore Anonyism!"

You really need to grow up.

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