Dios:

The "man of god" said, Oshi bra bra la mi sooo, abri braa bro oshi, Bo bo, bishi kish kush kosh, osh kosh, tonka toi, bam bam bigelow, doink d klown, tupak bishi, amaru ba la oshi, shakur loooooooooooo.

Hmmmmmmmm, can you explain that[/b]

This one is easy to interpret. Oshi, oloshi, nonsense bro. Stupid broda, oloshi brother, if you're not carefully I'll empty some pellets into your face, bam bam. Thus was Biggie laid low, blown away, gunned down. and next up Tupak shakara oloje Shakur and even bigger oloshi, take that! Odaboooooooooooooo o ti gbere.

Pastor AIO:

This one is easy to interpret. Oshi, oloshi, nonsense bro. Stupid broda, oloshi brother, if you're not carefully I'll empty some pellets into your face, bam bam. Thus was Biggie laid low, blown away, gunned down. and next up Tupak shakara oloje Shakur and even bigger oloshi, take that! Odaboooooooooooooo o ti gbere.

LMAO! You this bobo, you are not serious. I am still laughing. LOL.

@ Dominobaby

There sure is something such as speaking in tongues. Read ur bible WELLA!!! It is an evidence that u've received d Holy Ghost!!!

Evidence you say?

Its all hypnotism if you ask me. Show me from scriptures where one of the disciples, or apostles carried on in this manner in any worship session, and you'd have won me over.

One of the most misunderstood teachings is that of the gift of tongues.

ACTS
2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 2:9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 2:11 Cretes and Arabians,
we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 2:12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

I learnt something quite recently.

'Speaking in tongues' is no sham,
it's about expressing heartfelt groanings/desires
in ways you don't understand.

Its something i should do often.

Gamine:

I learnt something quite recently.

'Speaking in tongues' is no sham,
it's about expressing heartfelt groanings/desires
in ways you don't understand.

Its something i should do often.

Kid yourself. . .
Speaking in tongues is a sham, a big fat fraud!!!!

If it is a fraud, Speaking in English or your local dialect is fraudulent too

Gamine:

If it is a fraud, Speaking in English or your local dialect is fraudulent too

You have been brainwashed and braindried!!!

Yes, I have had my brain washed off the nonsense
that had been hammered into it, and I'm the better for it

Kuns:


Receiving The Holy Ghost

Pentecostalists claim that when the Holy Spirit comes to you, you speaking in tongues, or Glossolalia. Glossolalia comes from the Greek word Glossa and it literally means, "tongue."

They claim the "lord" is passing a message through them. I have no qualms with this, if the Holy Spirit is truly bestowed upon them. One may be blessed with the divine gift of speaking in tongues (languages).

Yet, Pentecostalists don't speak in other tongues. Instead, they fall out on the floor and start babbling and muttering, while moaning and talking undecipherable mumbo-jumbo.

Acts 2:4 [b][/b]
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

There is a difference between speaking in tongues ,Gift of tongue,Praying in tongues, talking in tongues and speaking with tongues.
Any christian that has not yet experienced this is missing a lot. The issue about speaking in tongues is not in the words being spoken either it is kororboro or lelekuku. It is based on the source from the innermost being that counts.
Jesus was the first to speak in tongues!

When properly translated the word translated to mean tongues in the KJV simply means "other languages" based on this mis-translation pentecostals decided to create a ritual around the concept due to their usual lack of understanding of scriptures and the mis-placed zeal in trying to be "christians" . If you read from other translation which simply says "other languages" you would realize the pentecostals are merely talking gibberish cos what they are speaking cannot be interpreted into other languages as the bible demands neither can it be spiritually discerned.


_{PS: I would like to confess that i speak in tongues whenever i am watching a soccer match and my team scores or misses a goal it just happens spontaneously without me making any effort}

@KunleOshob

because i dont understand a language, will i call it gibberish?
most likely i would. Are you to dictate what God understands?

The issue about speaking in tongues is not in the words being spoken either it is kororboro or lelekuku. It is based on the source from the innermost being that counts

True.

Gamine:

@KunleOshob

because i dont understand a language, will i call it gibberish?
most likely i would. Are you to dictate what God understands?
True.

Whilst i believe that speaking in other languages [some people call it speaking in tongues] is a gift of the spirit it is my opinion that 99% of those who practise it are actually faking it as there is nothing spectacular in what they claim they are doing and it is certainly no gift of the spirit. Besides the "speaking in tongues" that happens today does not conform to the biblical standard of there being an intepreter who can interprete what is being said in tongues [other languages] You may wish to rea the first book of corintians chapter 14 it sheds a lot of light on this tongue speaking issue.

1 Corinthians 14
Tongues and Prophecy
1 Let love be your highest goal ! But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives—especially the ability to prophesy. 2 For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious. 3 But one who prophesies strengthens others, encourages them, and comforts them. 4 A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church.

5 I wish you could all speak in tongues, but even more I wish you could all prophesy. For prophecy is greater than speaking in tongues, unless someone interprets what you are saying so that the whole church will be strengthened.

6 Dear brothers and sisters, if I should come to you speaking in an unknown language, how would that help you? But if I bring you a revelation or some special knowledge or prophecy or teaching, that will be helpful. 7 Even lifeless instruments like the flute or the harp must play the notes clearly, or no one will recognize the melody. 8 And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?

9 It’s the same for you. If you speak to people in words they don’t understand, how will they know what you are saying? You might as well be talking into empty space.

10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. 11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me. 12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church.

13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.

15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand. 16 For if you praise God only in the spirit, how can those who don’t understand you praise God along with you? How can they join you in giving thanks when they don’t understand what you are saying? 17 You will be giving thanks very well, but it won’t strengthen the people who hear you.

18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than any of you. 19 But in a church meeting I would rather speak five understandable words to help others than ten thousand words in an unknown language.

20 Dear brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature in understanding matters of this kind. 21 It is written in the Scriptures:

“I will speak to my own people
through strange languages
and through the lips of foreigners.
But even then, they will not listen to me,”
says the Lord.

22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. 23 Even so, if unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your church meeting and hear everyone speaking in an unknown language, they will think you are crazy. 24 But if all of you are prophesying, and unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your meeting, they will be convicted of sin and judged by what you say. 25 As they listen, their secret thoughts will be exposed, and they will fall to their knees and worship God, declaring, “God is truly here among you.”

A Call to Orderly Worship
26 Well, my brothers and sisters, let’s summarize. When you meet together, one will sing, another will teach, another will tell some special revelation God has given, one will speak in tongues, and another will interpret what is said. But everything that is done must strengthen all of you.

27 No more than two or three should speak in tongues. They must speak one at a time, and someone must interpret what they say. 28 But if no one is present who can interpret, they must be silent in your church meeting and speak in tongues to God privately.

29 Let two or three people prophesy, and let the others evaluate what is said. 30 But if someone is prophesying and another person receives a revelation from the Lord, the one who is speaking must stop. 31 In this way, all who prophesy will have a turn to speak, one after the other, so that everyone will learn and be encouraged. 32 Remember that people who prophesy are in control of their spirit and can take turns. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace, as in all the meetings of God’s holy people.

34 Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says. 35 If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings.

36 Or do you think God’s word originated with you Corinthians? Are you the only ones to whom it was given? 37 If you claim to be a prophet or think you are spiritual, you should recognize that what I am saying is a command from the Lord himself. 38 But if you do not recognize this, you yourself will not be recognized.

39 So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But be sure that everything is done properly and in order.

It is my belief that 80% of so called Christians have lost it
so therefore, i should shove it.

This is what you are saying.

There is no requirement to have an interpreter before you speak,
Paul simply emphasizes it being a private matter.

Most people read the bible as a text book which is wrong.According to the new testament,tongues amongst other gifts were given 2 the disciples for them 2 be able 2 spread the word of God.If u use a hebrew bible ull see that tongues there means a known language and not bla blas.It was given 2 the apostles whose native lang was diffrnt from that of the countries where they are sent 2 preach.Jst like maybe im igbo and can speak the language bt i want 2 go to urhobo land 2 preach when i get there my language wil change to that of the urhobos.Mind u all these were hapening when the bible was nt completd .But when the bible was completed most of those gifts stoped.The bile says.If there be tongues they shal cease,if there be prophecy they shal fail.Why because the bible is complete and theres nothing u wont find in the bible.I hope this clears the doubts.People are deceived 2day by these pentecostals because they want miracles.God help us[color=#000099][/color]

sonya4all:

Most people read the bible as a text book which is wrong.According to the new testament,tongues amongst other gifts were given 2 the disciples for them 2 be able 2 spread the word of God.If u use a hebrew bible ull see that tongues there means a known language and not bla blas.It was given 2 the apostles whose native lang was diffrnt from that of the countries where they are sent 2 preach.Jst like maybe im igbo and can speak the language bt i want 2 go to urhobo land 2 preach when i get there my language wil change to that of the urhobos.Mind u all these were hapening when the bible was nt completd .But when the bible was completed most of those gifts stoped.The bile says.If there be tongues they shal cease,if there be prophecy they shal fail.Why because the bible is complete and theres nothing u wont find in the bible.I hope this clears the doubts.People are deceived 2day by these pentecostals because they want miracles.God help us[/color]

That only happened specifically on the day of pentecost for a purpose just because many people were there from different nations. That was diversities of tongues.
Praying in the spirit has different forms.It could be in earthly language and heavenly language.The bible talks about tongues of men and tongues of angels.

[color=#990000]1 Cor. 13:1
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

Every christian ought to be able to pray in tongues. It is their heritage.

Mark 16:17
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

What Most people dont understand is the difference between;
DIVERSITIES OF TONGUES, SPEAKING WITH TONGUES, PRAYING IN TONGUES, GROANINING IN SPIRIT.
Some has to do with speaking to yourself in tongues, Seaking to God in tongues, Speaking to the church in tongues.
DIVERSITIES OF TONGUES,
1 Cor. 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

This is ability to talk in other known language that has not been previously learnt. E.g an ibo man speaking french language supernaturaly without any previous knowledge of French.He does not need to interprete it because ,the recipent will understand since he spoke in the native laguage

SPEAKING WITH TONGUES,
1 Cor. 12:30
Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
This is talking to people e.g preaching or giving prophecy in an unknown tongue. He needs to interpret or keep quiet.

1 Cor. 14:23
If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?


PRAYING IN TONGUES,
1 Cor. 14:4
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

1 Cor. 14:39
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

GROANINING IN SPIRIT

Romans 8:26
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

We can classify the Balabala Bolobolo Brekekemaya sontaraba rirba, under this. The issue is not how it sounds but that the tterance came from the spirit. Imagine what language is a groan? Yet in that groan the holyghost has prayed through us . Jesus groaned to raise lazarus up

John 11:33
When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,

I will like to post a new thread to explain myself better on this.

This is a major spiritual gift of God and a great weapon against the devil. Have u wondered why is it always criticized?

@hubreality
It is always critisized becos you people speak in fake tongus gibberish.

Like I said before in the other thread that the gift of tongues is differant from the gift of speaking in tongues.What happened on the day of the pentecost was the gift of tongues and is quite differant from what was described in 1 cor 14.On the day fthe pentecost the apostles spoke and the peole heard the message in differant languages.for e.r Peter spoke and some igbo men present heard the mesage in igbo,while the youruba man heard the message in yoruba e.t.c This gift is very rare was only recorded in church history again in the 15th century by st Vincent ferrer.

The gift of speaking in tongues was clearly described in 1 cor 14,even then it was mainly stated that not more than three should speak in tongue and one after the other,but when there is no one to interpret they should shut up.

Annunaki:

@hubreality
It is always critisized becos you people speak in fake tongus gibberish.

@Annunaki, how do you know or tell fake tongues? Speaking tongues go beyond the comprehension of self, science and religion. There are so many benefits attached to it irrespective of the speaker whom it is expressed through by the Spirit.

I also wish to refrain from any debates associated to this topic. It's a great Spiritual tool I use daily, it's beyond magic and science. It's only meaningful and works only to him that believes! You can cause any desired change with it's generated power of the Holy Ghost. It's a force!

I once attended a church service in which there was this visitor from another church. While the pastor spoke she got up to dance and utter some sort of babbling. The pastor implored her to desist from disturbing the service and after she continued she was physically removed by the deacons and elders.

Guess what happened? Mark you she was waving in the "Spirit" before. As far as she was concerned she was led to speak. Listen folks, that same lady who had recently "spoken in tongues" came back to the service with a knife and the words which came from her mouth were as foul as what would come from demonic forces.

My question to all those advocates of confusion is this? How do you explain that drift from "tongue speaking" to demonic influence?

chukwudi44:

Like I said before in the other thread that the gift of tongues is differant from the gift of speaking in tongues.What happened on the day of the pentecost was the gift of tongues and is quite differant from what was described in 1 cor 14.On the day fthe pentecost the apostles spoke and the peole heard the message in differant languages.for e.r Peter spoke and some igbo men present heard the mesage in igbo,while the youruba man heard the message in yoruba e.t.c This gift is very rare was only recorded in church history again in the 15th century by st Vincent ferrer.

The gift of speaking in tongues was clearly described in 1 cor 14,even then it was mainly stated that not more than three should speak in tongue and one after the other,but when there is no one to interpret they should shut up.

There is different between praying in tongues and speaking with tongues. If a man give prophecy in tongues to the people ,he should interprete.But if he prays to God alone he doesnt need interpretation.

1 Cor. 14:27-28
    If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. [28] But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

Every body can pray in tongues at the same time which is praying in tongue. So  if he cant interprete his message, he should keep quiet but this does stop him from speaking in tongue alone to God or to edify himself.

[28] , But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

Speaking in tongues is most defiantly real and I am not ashamed to say that I have and do continue to do so. If anyone wants to ask me anything about it on a personal level I’m more than happy to answer any questions to the best of my knowledge. My name is Hunter McLeod or dodger if you like.
But as for now is it real? Yes.
Is it from God? Yes.
Is it in the Bible? Yes.
Did Jesus do it? Yes.
Should we do it? Yes.
Can anyone do it? If you’re a Christian yes you can.
Does it mean there is something wrong with you if you don’t? No not at all.

Much ado about nothing. Speaking in tongues ko, rapping in tooth ni.

I was part of a prayer service where they spoke in tounges, couldn't get out fast enough, its just people trying to manipulate others into believing it them being blessed by the spirit, it isn't. They are just seeking attention.

If you look at the statement praying in tongues, remember that before not every one from the gospels is from the same tribes, they all spoke different tongues then.

Notice we all separated now, no one prays together of different faiths, or tongues here unless a funeral or wedding

Christians have been separated here, english and french very politaclly hot situation!! So much separation even among its own faiths. because of the language difference.

ilosiwaju:

Much ado about nothing. Speaking in tongues ko, rapping in tooth ni.

You guys want to kill someone with laughter!

Why is it that those " speaking in tongues" seem to repeat basically the same verbiage week in week out? but yet their "interpretation" is different each time? Folks like to wow others with their "dexterity" in religious matters hence the fake tongue speak or better yet, as a way to be "accepted" into the scamming fold (if you ask me)

Hehehe, xtrian re now getting wise, good for that.

mas shin kere skele tiri sada raba sin taraba.
oh skipo lala kere shifi boro mara skilli

Am so spirit filled(_{gin and whisky spirits})

I still don't get how people can decide the language 'God' understands

SMH.

Gamine:

I still don't get how people can decide the language 'God' understands

SMH.

abi oooo!

Matthew 12:31-32
"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come"
Be careful were your jokes lead you, if you are wrong on this subject you may want to rethink your comments.
To ogajim, you were speaking of tongues sounding the same and having different interpretations and how this seems to be fake right. Well there are two things about that one there are fakes, not everyone but there are some. Two it is often hard for people to understand foreigner language it often sounds as though it is repetitious and meaningless; especially when it does not have the same root as ours. Compare the Asian languages to the romantic ones of Europe of those of Africa they are completely different and confusing. In the case of a tongue given by God we have nothing similar to it on earth so they sound strange and comical to us. The only way one can interpret a tongue from God is by God giving the meaning to the interpreter, this is also why is can be faked however. However a word given in tongues with the accompaniment of interpretation is the same as prophecy and the Bible says that the way to test a prophet is if what is said comes to pass, if it doesn’t it was face plain and simple.

@ Dodgur

How do you explain post 276? What spirit did she possess, or should I say what spirit possessed her?