Niqqa what? Nna enh! Scatter the damn thing. Bumble clot rude bwuay cant wait. What bumbo clot fuckery is this? First fruit ma priyack! Biyatch better bend over before I ...

These are man made rules people cook up and sell to their members to potray a false sense of extra holiness

If as a newly wedded man God tells you that and your wife agrees to abstain with you (for some weird reason)that's your prerogative

Don't let any man put you in bondage or sell you false teachings/doctrine

Study the bible for yourself, pray, is that what God is prompting you to do?

You decide

12 inches!:


This is another dimension oooooo....hehehehehe. U are a clown.

Who is a clown here?I wasn't laughing like you when I typed it.
The term 1st fruit is a fruit you give out.
In yorubaland ur 1st salary when you start to work is shared within the family,"Not by force"Culture
In some churches ur 1st salary in the year is the 1st fruit sacrifice you make
Now when the term 1st fruit is used for abstaining from ur wife on your wedding night,I am wondering who the sacrifice goes to,and if its not something you can sacrifice to anyone,y then term it as 1st fruit when ofcos if you wait a month for whatever reason,you are still coming to your 1st fruit
Abi u be learner?

j4jj:

I would hv called u a fool bt jst because today is Sunday I wouldn't ... I see u r actualy a Pagan based on ur profile name! y nt just gv ur opinion and stop talkin nonsense! D poster has said its nt madatory or did u close ur eyes when u were reading.

Nothing! I repeat nothing can seperate me from d love of Jesus christ...

that was my opinion. I can separate you from your false love of that israeli man-God. 1 religious debate and then you will come begging me to covert you to traditional religion.

yellowpawpaw: Bullshit!pple should stop misinterpretin d bible.I wonder if d apostles were to be alive today,dey will be constantly askin what dey did wrong by writin those wonderful scrolls.d bible said abstinence,I did that and one hediot is tellin me to continue as 1st fruit sacrifice! nigerians and adding so much drama into d word of God!as I do after my weddin is not her biz! Period!(Sorry,I forgot she is a woman of God,maybe d Holy spirit told her)
Everday of ur life is for God,no special day!

You my friend are certainly not on the path of error.If only more christians could be this rational and think for themselves...IGNORANCE IS DOING MORE HARM TO THE BODY OF CHRIST THAN SIN.

kambo: how about giving the whole month off as first fruit.
or the week.
whats the big deal about s.ex anyway- if they've waited all these years/months.
they can wait a lil longer .. but!
christian churches have a way of creating arbitrary laws.
Jesus on earth fought the traditions of the pharisees- they were blinded by tradition
and this culture is crippling the church.
Dont add to God's word.
e.g in Rccg, and some other churches. Baptism ,is only performed after the ritual of attending a baptismal
class for weeks!
in the bible, baptism followd salvation.

>>
People rever servants of God (MOG) mor than God because of their larger than life image.
People have problems, they dont know how to pray to God,personally , for an answer,
it must be ,the pentecostal tradition of going to meet one "Daddy",
when the Bible says "Come, boldly to the throne of grace"
"make your request known unto God".
Now, in the bible they're cases where God told a person to go meet his servant.
But that is not always the norm.
In the new testament every believer is a PRIEST qualified to MINISTER DIRECTLY unto GOD!!
how many MOG preach this in their churches? i guess the dependency will drop.

>> Brother wants to marry, the decision must be vetted by MOG!
chei.
too many moo moo's in christianity.
Brother doesnt understand bible verse , he must go meet MOG!
whatever MOG says is law.
imagine the crap deeper life teaches ,that women shouldnt wear gold!
taking whole verses out context!!
so who did create gold for? and why does Jesus wear gold!?
It's so terrible to the extent that , most people ,can't seek God directly on any matter any more,
it must be thru the "Daddy"!.
And these MOG ,some of them aint helping matters at all, they're encouraging the dependency!!

too many stupid christians i'll say. brainless morons in the church. not created so but they dont like to engage their
minds.
no wonder in intellectual circles ,most christian are baba at carrying last-na so so church church them sabi!!!

all these man-made protocols.

You sir encapsulated my thoughts and expressed them in a single piece done with beautiful prose laced with a few smatterings of pidgin for effect...Kudos to You.

kambo: how about giving the whole month off as first fruit.
or the week.
whats the big deal about s.ex anyway- if they've waited all these years/months.
they can wait a lil longer .. but!
christian churches have a way of creating arbitrary laws.
Jesus on earth fought the traditions of the pharisees- they were blinded by tradition
and this culture is crippling the church.
Dont add to God's word.
e.g in Rccg, and some other churches. Baptism ,is only performed after the ritual of attending a baptismal
class for weeks!
in the bible, baptism followd salvation.

>>
People rever servants of God (MOG) mor than God because of their larger than life image.
People have problems, they dont know how to pray to God,personally , for an answer,
it must be ,the pentecostal tradition of going to meet one "Daddy",
when the Bible says "Come, boldly to the throne of grace"
"make your request known unto God".
Now, in the bible they're cases where God told a person to go meet his servant.
But that is not always the norm.
In the new testament every believer is a PRIEST qualified to MINISTER DIRECTLY unto GOD!!
how many MOG preach this in their churches? i guess the dependency will drop.

>> Brother wants to marry, the decision must be vetted by MOG!
chei.
too many moo moo's in christianity.
Brother doesnt understand bible verse , he must go meet MOG!
whatever MOG says is law.
imagine the crap deeper life teaches ,that women shouldnt wear gold!
taking whole verses out context!!
so who did create gold for? and why does Jesus wear gold!?
It's so terrible to the extent that , most people ,can't seek God directly on any matter any more,
it must be thru the "Daddy"!.
And these MOG ,some of them aint helping matters at all, they're encouraging the dependency!!

too many stupid christians i'll say. brainless morons in the church. not created so but they dont like to engage their
minds.
no wonder in intellectual circles ,most christian are baba at carrying last-na so so church church them sabi!!!

all these man-made protocols.

You sir encapsulated my thoughts and expressed them in a single piece done with beautiful prose laced with a few smatterings of pidgin for effect...Kudos to You.

he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtaineth favour from the lord.... You are married, by virtue of that you have found favour... This is just religion and a little bit of naivete being taken too far, in my opinion.
God wants you to chop that thing that first night...that's why he made the damn thing in the first place...

Kamsy10:
I was about to agree with you until I read the bolded.

agree with the bible first. To cure u of your traditional blinders.

Kamsy10:
Please don't lead people astray by saying things you know nothing about.

don't type frm a blinded mentality. Let d word enlighten you. Learn how 2 interprete the word correctly.

Kamsy10:
Why don't you give verses that support the bolded.

luke 15v22: father of prodgl son puts jeweled ring on son's finger.
It cud hav been gold. In addition to shoes and a robe. Point, jewelry complimented dressing.
Job42v11: each of job's guest giv him money and a gold ring. Again, insinuatg tht gold was worn as jewelry too as well as having fiscal value.
Rev1v13: john sees Jesus , jesus is wearing a long robe with a gold band. Jesus is wearg gold!

Kamsy10:
God asked the Israelites to remove their jewelries so he could decide what to do with them and the bible never recorded anywhere that God asked them to wear it again.

y did they take it off? Cuz it was to b used in temple construction wrk. The isrealites wore gold as jewelry.. Wen d golden calf was to b made the appeal was made tht people shd contribute their gold,many gave their gold jewelry.

Kamsy10:
Read also Jer 4:30

ive read it. It proves my point. The figurative woman there wears gold jewelry. So gold wearg was d norm and is not a sin. The point of dat verse, is tht her attrctveness will not influence her enemies hence her dressg is in vain. She wore gold,mascara and scarlet. Does tht make all those items evil.
Jesus said not wat u take dat defiles u but wat u think on(find d verse)

Kamsy10:
Even you pastor Adeboye's wife and daughter don't wear gold and they are not deeper life members.
[bold]Be careful what you spit out.[/bold]

nonsense crap. The boldd applies to u. Do ur homework before counterg.

Kamsy10:
If you lack wisdom, ask of the Lord.

your foolish partg shot. Lazy people like you is wat made jesus,peter,paul use the F word (foolish/fool) in d bible.
You dnt thnk, u just follow blind traditions wth frenzy.
Y did Jesus tell the zealots of his day "search, d scriptures!".

Kamsy10:
Note: Am not a deeper lifer and have never bn to deeper life

your not a deeperlife in d church membership but ur kindred mentality.

rezzy: After the whole wahala of the day, can one still have time and strenght for that? Abeg nothing like first fruit on ones wedding night except there is a revelation not to do the koko.

The wedding has to be consummated that night o.Strength will come unless you married someone you ain't attracted to.

Even thou we were so tired, we received strength beyond what is normal to still do the deed. 1st fruit co, 2ndfruit ni.

supaeagles:
No vex abeg, was just a joke.

Nah! Didn't 'vex'.
Was just explaining. I mostly sound serious, so don't take it that I picked offence.

webb jamie:

You my friend are certainly not on the path of error.If only more christians could be this rational and think for themselves...IGNORANCE IS DOING MORE HARM TO THE BODY OF CHRIST THAN SIN.

what body? he is dead dude. JESUS IS DEAD!


REJOICE FOR THY LORD HATH ARRIVED ON THE CLOUD OF THUNDER!

ALL GLORY IN THE NAME OF AMADIOHA, THE MOST COMPASSIONATE, THE MOST MERCIFUL!

Yvete: Just curious to know if anyone has done this?

The idea is, just as you offer your first fruit of labor to God, likewise it is encouraged, not mandatory to offer your wedding night as a first fruit of marriage. Basically, a newly wedded couple should abstain from intimacy on their wedding night and instead spend the night singing praises, and giving thanks in prayer.

My pastors wife encouraged this "oath" or "offering" at pre-marital class. Although, some guys were straight up honest, " NO!". They weren't smiling. I think its a good way to start off married life (to pray against mis-fortunes, to pray for unborn children, ...etc). "Bring the best of the first fruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God" (Ex. 23:19). Has anyone ever pledged to do this?

And all those days/months/years before the wedding are meant for what? Why can't the prayers be held then?

I think what she said is more of opinion to please God eve more.

PAGAN 9JA:


what body? he is dead dude. JESUS IS DEAD!


REJOICE FOR THY LORD HATH ARRIVED ON THE CLOUD OF THUNDER!

ALL GLORY IN THE NAME OF AMADIOHA, THE MOST COMPASSIONATE, THE MOST MERCIFUL!

Brother i would surmise from your rants that all is not well with your mind or is this just a ploy to garner cheap popularity?

God himself go ask you "My son, which kain unnessessary suffer head be dis one?.
Do I have to send an angel down to tell you to become ONE with her and finish this process?"

webb jamie:

Brother i would surmise from your rants that all is not well with your mind or is this just a ploy to garner cheap popularity?

what rants? what popularity? dont you xtians spam other threads with your bullsh!.t praises to your foreign God

why cant I praise my God(s) as well?!

rubbish. GOD doesn't act outside his words. HE is not interested in having sex with someone's else wife. Which church is preaching this nonsense again

josite: rubbish. GOD doesn't act outside his words. HE is not interested in having sex with someone's else wife. Which church is preaching this nonsense again

the church of christianity.

i am talkn to brethren not guys OR BABS it is very important you
dedicate 3-4days to God after marriage but it must be
agreed by both parties This is a submissive attitude to God.
you might say its not biblical. God love an unusual approach of
faith to him. its like total submission of the new family to God.
Also, in this part of the world where so many evil doers with
smiling faces comes to ur weddn to target that NIGHT to carry out
their work but if they come 1,2 and 3 night they will be disgraced
and bonded. This is why many marriages does not last a month before
the joy in that marriage vanish.
A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE

@ Adekay2011:

Christianity is not a science, it is a way of life that is founded on the word of God. Part of the essence of marriage is so that a man and woman can enjoy sexual intimacy without such act constituting a sin. Sin is the only factor that can give evil doers power over a man. A man sleeping with his wife on their wedding night has not committed any sin that could warrant God giving him up to be harmed by evil doers. It is really kinda absurd to think abstaining from intimacy in marriage is one way of protecting oneself from the evil ones. If your postulation is correct, then the couple will have to abstain for the rest of their marriage lives since the evil doers can come any time and strike when they are making love. You are suggesting 3-4 for days, I am sure someone will come up with a 7-day abstinence policy, then one-month and may be somebody will say the first one year 'should be dedicated unto God'. If the bible is your guide, go and check what Isaac did the night Rebecca was brought to him, check what Jacob did the nights Leah and Rachael were given to him as wives, check the warning that couples should not abstain from sex for too long less they be tempted, these are biblical instances that goes to proof God's mind towards sex in marriage. Now, show me one verse in the bible where God said a married man should offer the sacrifice of abstinence on his wedding night to earn further blessings, especially after heeding the biblical injunction that the marriage bed be undefiled.

from experience you will be tooo tied to do anything , what you will be looking for is a place to rest your weary body
so the truth that most time nothing happens on your first night as husband and wife

kambo: how about giving the whole month off as first fruit.
or the week.
whats the big deal about s.ex anyway- if they've waited all these years/months.
they can wait a lil longer .. but!
christian churches have a way of creating arbitrary laws.
Jesus on earth fought the traditions of the pharisees- they were blinded by tradition
and this culture is crippling the church.
Dont add to God's word.
e.g in Rccg, and some other churches. Baptism ,is only performed after the ritual of attending a baptismal
class for weeks!
in the bible, baptism followd salvation.

>>
People rever servants of God (MOG) mor than God because of their larger than life image.
People have problems, they dont know how to pray to God,personally , for an answer,
it must be ,the pentecostal tradition of going to meet one "Daddy",
when the Bible says "Come, boldly to the throne of grace"
"make your request known unto God".
Now, in the bible they're cases where God told a person to go meet his servant.
But that is not always the norm.
In the new testament every believer is a PRIEST qualified to MINISTER DIRECTLY unto GOD!!
how many MOG preach this in their churches? i guess the dependency will drop.

>> Brother wants to marry, the decision must be vetted by MOG!
chei.
too many moo moo's in christianity.
Brother doesnt understand bible verse , he must go meet MOG!
whatever MOG says is law.
imagine the crap deeper life teaches ,that women shouldnt wear gold!
taking whole verses out context!!
so who did create gold for? and why does Jesus wear gold!?
It's so terrible to the extent that , most people ,can't seek God directly on any matter any more,
it must be thru the "Daddy"!.
And these MOG ,some of them aint helping matters at all, they're encouraging the dependency!!

too many stupid christians i'll say. brainless morons in the church. not created so but they dont like to engage their
minds.
no wonder in intellectual circles ,most christian are baba at carrying last-na so so church church them sabi!!!

all these man-made protocols.

[b]

kambo: how about giving the whole month off as first fruit.
or the week.
whats the big deal about s.ex anyway- if they've waited all these years/months.
they can wait a lil longer .. but!
christian churches have a way of creating arbitrary laws.
Jesus on earth fought the traditions of the pharisees- they were blinded by tradition
and this culture is crippling the church.
Dont add to God's word.
e.g in Rccg, and some other churches. Baptism ,is only performed after the ritual of attending a baptismal
class for weeks!
in the bible, baptism followd salvation.

>>
People rever servants of God (MOG) mor than God because of their larger than life image.
People have problems, they dont know how to pray to God,personally , for an answer,
it must be ,the pentecostal tradition of going to meet one "Daddy",
when the Bible says "Come, boldly to the throne of grace"
"make your request known unto God".
Now, in the bible they're cases where God told a person to go meet his servant.
But that is not always the norm.
In the new testament every believer is a PRIEST qualified to MINISTER DIRECTLY unto GOD!!
how many MOG preach this in their churches? i guess the dependency will drop.

>> Brother wants to marry, the decision must be vetted by MOG!
chei.
too many moo moo's in christianity.
Brother doesnt understand bible verse , he must go meet MOG!
whatever MOG says is law.
imagine the crap deeper life teaches ,that women shouldnt wear gold!
taking whole verses out context!!
so who did create gold for? and why does Jesus wear gold!?
It's so terrible to the extent that , most people ,can't seek God directly on any matter any more,
it must be thru the "Daddy"!.
And these MOG ,some of them aint helping matters at all, they're encouraging the dependency!!

too many stupid christians i'll say. brainless morons in the church. not created so but they dont like to engage their
minds.
no wonder in intellectual circles ,most christian are baba at carrying last-na so so church church them sabi!!!

all these man-made protocols.

[/b]

kambo: how about giving the whole month off as first fruit.
or the week.
whats the big deal about s.ex anyway- if they've waited all these years/months.
they can wait a lil longer .. but!
christian churches have a way of creating arbitrary laws.
Jesus on earth fought the traditions of the pharisees- they were blinded by tradition
and this culture is crippling the church.
Dont add to God's word.
e.g in Rccg, and some other churches. Baptism ,is only performed after the ritual of attending a baptismal
class for weeks!
in the bible, baptism followd salvation.

>>
People rever servants of God (MOG) mor than God because of their larger than life image.
People have problems, they dont know how to pray to God,personally , for an answer,
it must be ,the pentecostal tradition of going to meet one "Daddy",
when the Bible says "Come, boldly to the throne of grace"
"make your request known unto God".
Now, in the bible they're cases where God told a person to go meet his servant.
But that is not always the norm.
In the new testament every believer is a PRIEST qualified to MINISTER DIRECTLY unto GOD!!
how many MOG preach this in their churches? i guess the dependency will drop.

>> Brother wants to marry, the decision must be vetted by MOG!
chei.
too many moo moo's in christianity.
Brother doesnt understand bible verse , he must go meet MOG!
whatever MOG says is law.
imagine the crap deeper life teaches ,that women shouldnt wear gold!
taking whole verses out context!!
so who did create gold for? and why does Jesus wear gold!?
It's so terrible to the extent that , most people ,can't seek God directly on any matter any more,
it must be thru the "Daddy"!.
And these MOG ,some of them aint helping matters at all, they're encouraging the dependency!!

too many stupid christians i'll say. brainless morons in the church. not created so but they dont like to engage their
minds.
no wonder in intellectual circles ,most christian are baba at carrying last-na so so church church them sabi!!!

all these man-made protocols.

Please stay on the topic and if you dont know why Kumuyi is preaching what you call crap, its better to keep quiet and dont attend his church.
Getting likes on nairaland and getting likes from God almighty are two different things. Why dont you allow God to do the judging. I dont think he needs your assistance

Like I advised you earlier, if you dont know why Kumuyi is preaching what you call crap, please shut your mouth
Getting likes on nairaland and getting likes from God almighty are two different things
We humans like the to chose the most convenient way.Remember that narrow is the way that leads to heaven

kambo: how about giving the whole month off as first fruit.
or the week.
whats the big deal about s.ex anyway- if they've waited all these years/months.
they can wait a lil longer .. but!
christian churches have a way of creating arbitrary laws.
Jesus on earth fought the traditions of the pharisees- they were blinded by tradition
and this culture is crippling the church.
Dont add to God's word.
e.g in Rccg, and some other churches. Baptism ,is only performed after the ritual of attending a baptismal
class for weeks!
in the bible, baptism followd salvation.

People rever servants of God (MOG) mor than God because of their larger than life image.
People have problems, they dont know how to pray to God,personally , for an answer,
it must be ,the pentecostal tradition of going to meet one "Daddy",
when the Bible says "Come, boldly to the throne of grace"
"make your request known unto God".
Now, in the bible they're cases where God told a person to go meet his servant.
But that is not always the norm.
In the new testament every believer is a PRIEST qualified to MINISTER DIRECTLY unto GOD!!
how many MOG preach this in their churches? i guess the dependency will drop.

>> Brother wants to marry, the decision must be vetted by MOG!
chei.
too many moo moo's in christianity.
Brother doesnt understand bible verse , he must go meet MOG!
whatever MOG says is law.
imagine the crap deeper life teaches ,that women shouldnt wear gold!
taking whole verses out context!!
so who did create gold for? and why does Jesus wear gold!?
It's so terrible to the extent that , most people ,can't seek God directly on any matter any more,
it must be thru the "Daddy"!.
And these MOG ,some of them aint helping matters at all, they're encouraging the dependency!!

too many stupid christians i'll say. brainless morons in the church. not created so but they dont like to engage their
minds.
no wonder in intellectual circles ,most christian are baba at carrying last-na so so church church them sabi!!!

all these man-made protocols.

Please stay on the topic and if you dont know why Kumuyi is preaching what you call crap, its better to keep quiet and dont attend his church.
Getting likes on nairaland and getting likes from God almighty are two different things. Why dont you allow God to do the judging. I dont think he needs your assistance

Like I advised you earlier, if you dont know why Kumuyi is preaching what you call crap, please shut your mouth
Getting likes on nairaland and getting likes from God almighty are two different things
We humans like the to chose the most convenient way.Remember that narrow is the way that leads to heaven

Kamsy10:


Please stay on the topic and if you dont know why Kumuyi is preaching what you call crap, its better to keep quiet and dont attend his church.
Getting likes on nairaland and getting likes from God almighty are two different things. Why dont you allow God to do the judging. I dont think he needs your assistance

Like I advised you earlier, if you dont know why Kumuyi is preaching what you call crap, please shut your mouth
Getting likes on nairaland and getting likes from God almighty are two different things
We humans like the to chose the most convenient way.Remember that narrow is the way that leads to heaven

if you wrote all this so you'll say shut up or keep quiet your are most to be pitied.
I replied u with the tpfkakambo moniker.
If the word of God from the bible can't convince - reconsider whether you want to obey the Bible or
follow man made doctrines in church.
I dont have time to respond to your other senseless comments.
I was responding to the issue of man made traditions in church, e.g dont wear gold.
And i refuted to out of context stance with relevant scriptures.
You ofcourse know in the bible that after Jesus , told some religious people the truth
they often tried to kill him. e.g throw him off the hill.

Dont make another comment on the bible except you want to make an objective point.
the bible says , only God's word endures forever , not the word of any man.

some denominations take the word out of context , and you support it. if
your pastor says dont wear shoes - like some sects do - you will not be able to interprete
the bible for yourself to know better!

The scriptures is of no private interpretation.- dont let any man deceive you.

scobaba:

Rezzy has a 'daddy'.

which one is daddy again? I have daddy, yes, as in papa.

j4jj: What would couples doing during courtship I guess one out of many wld be praying abt the first fruit thing so there wld be no essence!!! Though I actualy like d fact dat u added not mandatory to ur thread!!! I'd rather prefer to do what a xtain friend of mine informed me abt that before a couple plans to hv s*x wt eachother since its d first time they are seeing eachother's nudi-ty they shld both go on their kneels in nak*dness, hold hands, & pray to God and ask whatever they want from God.I tell u dat my friend is still enjoying his marriage with lovely kids. a suggestion anyway

As i read the bolded, i became shy. God! Cant do that. Do you think it is easy to go stark nak*d before a man for d first?

Sex or no sex on the wedding night does not translate to giving that night to God. Couples can have sex on their wedding night and yet dedicate that night to God. Its all about the heart my dear, it always has been about the innermost heart which God alone sees .

Yvete: Just curious to know if anyone has done this.

The idea is, just as you offer your first fruit of labor to God, likewise it is encouraged, not mandatory to offer your wedding night as a first fruit of marriage. Basically, a newly wedded couple should abstain from intimacy on their wedding night and instead spend the night singing praises, and giving thanks in prayer.

My pastors wife encouraged this "oath" or "offering" at pre-marital class. Although, some guys were straight up honest, " NO!". They weren't smiling. I think its a good way to start off married life (to pray against mis-fortunes, to pray for unborn children, ...etc). "Bring the best of the first fruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God" (Ex. 23:19). Has anyone ever pledged to do this?

it sounds like a joke to me

Ubenedictus: it sounds like a joke to me

UBE if u never marry you fit apply this first fruit formular o..........

Nigerian christians!!! more christian than christ. HYPOCRITES like the pharisees almost the whole lot of them. wedding nite as first fruit to God? what a ridiculous tradition of men with which these mog will eventually enslave their members!! firstfruit is not a christian practice neither is offering the first forbidden fruit to God (pun intended ) yet they call themselves christians. simpletons