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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Nobody: 10:23am On Jun 18, 2013
PBundles: If this is true, that other religions are to be respected, then WHY ARE BIBLES NOT ALLOWED IN CERTAIN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES (ie The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia). I may be wrong but is there any country that bans the Quran?




And who told U so? Saudi Arabia is a pure Islamic state and if u want to worship any other thing apart from Islam then do so in ur room and don't disturb the next man.. There are quite a few Christian expatriates in Jeddah but they do not worship in public or large congregation..and if u think Saudi Arabia is unfair to Christianity,then try North Korea...Christian,Muslim,whatever u r..religion is a no no there so STOP spiting ur foolishness here bloody Christian fanatic
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by EmperorSeal(m): 10:24am On Jun 18, 2013
sino:

In fact ehn, the concept of "thou shall not judge" in christianity is just beyond me.

Another example is a woman who is provocatively dressed, they tell you, christianity is in the heart, "thou shall not judge"... A woman who is dressed Islamically, they say, they are pretenders, they do a lot of bad things and they go on to give you their personal experiences...

To me, it's just one word; HYPOCRISY!

Instead of them to acknowledge the sentence as a welcome development and a deterent to others, they are here spewing rubbish.

We muslims hold in high esteem our Religion, we are advised to respect other people's beliefs and to deal with people justly.
The same way you muslims respect other's believe and dealing with them justly by calling them infidels, maiming n killing christains at any slightest provocation.......Smh
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Nobody: 10:24am On Jun 18, 2013
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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by touchmeder: 10:24am On Jun 18, 2013
Interesting
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Kay17: 10:25am On Jun 18, 2013
Unfortunately it is an assault against free speech. Although free speech isn't absolute, that it has to be balanced with all other human rights. In this case, the simple act of burning a Bible as a form of protest is not harmful or detrimental to the State or anyone.

And I doubt if Islam supports our secular values of human rights.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Kay17: 10:27am On Jun 18, 2013
sanniemoe:

And who told U so? Saudi Arabia is a pure Islamic state and if u want to worship any other thing apart from Islam then do so in ur room and don't disturb the next man.. There are quite a few Christian expatriates in Jeddah but they do not worship in public or large congregation..and if u think Saudi Arabia is unfair to Christianity,then try North Korea...Christian,Muslim,whatever u r..religion is a no no there so STOP spiting ur foolishness here bloody Christian fanatic

In other words, Saudi Arabia an islamic state is in the same rank and class as repressive North Korea.

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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by PurestBoy(m): 10:27am On Jun 18, 2013
Reachyrich: When a market was burnt in ibadan early last year d two holy books were seen unburnt.so burning of quran and bible is a big sin even he deserve to rot in jail.

Pls only 1 of the books is Holy and we both know which one it is.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by sino(m): 10:28am On Jun 18, 2013
PBundles: If this is true, that other religions are to be respected, then WHY ARE BIBLES NOT ALLOWED IN CERTAIN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES (ie The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia). I may be wrong but is there any country that bans the Quran?




Well, i think you are wrong, check out this link
http://www.muslimspeak./2008/07/16/muslim-urban-legends-the-saudi-bible-ban/

Again, there are a lot of foreign expatriates working in KSA, they have the right to practice their religion even, an American military base was there during the gulf war and still there. Majority of these people are non-Muslims.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Paschal007: 10:30am On Jun 18, 2013
Lakayanah: Go and burn the Quran in kano and see if your mouth will have more speeches to make or anyone from your clan that lives there would be spared.
its still wrong to react violently because decided to burn his personal property.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Kay17: 10:31am On Jun 18, 2013
Reachyrich: When a market was burnt in ibadan early last year d two holy books were seen unburnt.so burning of quran and bible is a big sin even he deserve to rot in jail.

That doesn't follow! It simply means the books are indestructible by fire. Also it can be a sin for an outsider to burn holy books
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Sunnybobo3(m): 10:31am On Jun 18, 2013
tbaba1234: CAIRO (Reuters) -A Cairo court sentenced an Egyptian Muslim preacher to 11 years in jail for blasphemy on Sunday for burning a Bible during a protest last year outside the U.S. embassy.

Convictions for insulting Islam are common in Egypt, ruled by Islamists after the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak in 2011, but more rare for cases involving the minority Christian faith.

Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud, known as Abu Islam, who runs his own religious television channel, led a demonstration in September against a U.S.-made anti-Islam video posted on the Internet.

His son was sentenced to eight years in jail for the same offence. Both will remain at liberty pending appeal.

source: http://news.yahoo.com/bible-burning-egyptian-cleric-jailed-11-years-165936742.html?utm_content=buffer604ae&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Buffer

All na wash.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Paschal007: 10:32am On Jun 18, 2013
m.esther96:
see mumusad
you wan kiss me fa?
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by PurestBoy(m): 10:34am On Jun 18, 2013
If Christian had burnt the koran instead, we would have seen protests if not beheadings in Nigeria.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by mshd5: 10:36am On Jun 18, 2013
Islam, d religion of God with gud morals n esteem etiquettes. I luv ISLAM

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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by logica(m): 10:37am On Jun 18, 2013
cleanvessel: It is like when MKO Abiola was alleged to have sunk a whole ship-load of bible into the sea.
I am really interested in this story. When did it happen? Who imported the bibles? Was Abiola involved in the importation?
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Nobody: 10:41am On Jun 18, 2013
Kay 17:

In other words, Saudi Arabia an islamic state is in the same rank and class as repressive North Korea.

That's not d point..stop misconstruing my words..I was trying to explain Saudi is a tolerant state as against what the media portrays..there are a whole lot of expats in Saudi who are Christians and are deeply committed to their religion,they go about their business without any form of harassment SO FAR U DO NOT MAKE URSELF A NUISANCE TO EITHER D PUBLIC OR UR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR unlike North Korea that does not tolerate any form of religion..

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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by PBundles(m): 10:41am On Jun 18, 2013
sanniemoe:

And who told U so? Saudi Arabia is a pure Islamic state and if u want to worship any other thing apart from Islam then do so in ur room and don't disturb the next man.. There are quite a few Christian expatriates in Jeddah but they do not worship in public or large congregation..and if u think Saudi Arabia is unfair to Christianity,then try North Korea...Christian,Muslim,whatever u r..religion is a no no there so STOP spiting ur foolishness here bloody Christian fanatic
PBundles: If this is true, that other religions are to be respected, then WHY ARE BIBLES NOT ALLOWED IN CERTAIN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES (ie The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia). I may be wrong but is there any country that bans the Quran?



sanniemoe:

And who told U so? Saudi Arabia is a pure Islamic state and if u want to worship any other thing apart from Islam then do so in ur room and don't disturb the next man.. There are quite a few Christian expatriates in Jeddah but they do not worship in public or large congregation..and if u think Saudi Arabia is unfair to Christianity,then try North Korea...Christian,Muslim,whatever u r..religion is a no no there so STOP spiting ur foolishness here bloody Christian fanatic

Interesting you claim Im a Bloody Christian ( who says I support or oppose christianity, why if someone makes critical point towards islam its seen as opposition? what are you afraid of) fanatic, yet just read how you address me ( is this the repsect muslims talk about) with respect when I asked a simple question. I wonder who is a fanatic. Back to the point, as I wont let you derail this which is what you want. Let me answer for you NONE. The quran is not banned in ANY country. North Korea which you fondly mentioned bans all forms of religions. So let me get this straight. You claim that Saudi Arabia is a pure islamic state but I THOUGHT SOMEONE JUST MENTIONED THAT ISLAM RESPECTS ALL REGIONS. I GUESS NOT. About christians in Jeddah, LET ME HELP YOU, IF THEY HAVE BIBLES TO WORHSIP WITH THEY MUST HAVE SMUGGLED IT IN SINCE THEY ALONG WITH ANY CHRISTIAN PARAPHANELIA ARE SEIZED AT THE PORT OF ENTRY AT THE AIRPORT. DONT YOU KNOW THAT. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Reachyrich(f): 10:42am On Jun 18, 2013
That's 4 u.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by pistol: 10:42am On Jun 18, 2013
cleanvessel:

Yes o!



And some people are still celebrating him.
Smh.
Their end point will be when they start eating grass.
Na then their eyes go open.
God used IBB to work out his purpose.
When God wants to get something done,he can use a villian to achieve his purpose.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Lakayanah: 10:47am On Jun 18, 2013
Paschal007:
its still wrong to react violently because decided to burn his personal property.
if you own either of the holy books and you feel it's your right to burn it please do it at the confines of your house and let only your conscience judge you when you come and do it in the open it will certainly affect they worshipers of that faith for you have desecrated their holy book.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by specialguest(f): 10:50am On Jun 18, 2013
big-t:
Im sorry this wont make the fp, but thats good for the islam extremists - Like father, like son!! Smfh!! sad angry

I'm sorry you are wrong, it made fp.
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by dazzy4real(m): 10:55am On Jun 18, 2013
Why jail someone for burning a bible? We should remember dt a bible becomes a bible only wen it is been put to action likewise the koran otherwise it remains a common book
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by PBundles(m): 10:55am On Jun 18, 2013
This is interesting but Im sorry to burst your bubble, but its illegal in KSA. I would rather you quote the KSA government and not an unauthrised website and YT film.Freedom of religion is neither recognized nor protected under the law and is severely restricted in practice. According to the 1992 Basic Law, Sunni Islam is the official religion and the country’s constitution is the Qur’an and the Sunna (traditions and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad). Just because something is tolerated doesnt mean its allowed. Im talking from first hand experience. A co-workers BIBLE was taken AT THE AIRPORT. HE IS AMERICAN. Later one of the airport guys snook it back to him but told him to hide it. WHEN ASKED WHY HE WAS TOLD, THOUGH IT RARELY HAPPENS TO AMERICANS YOU CAN BE ARRESTED AS ITS AGAINST THE LAW. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME PLEASE ANYONE CALL THE EMBASSY AND SIMPLY ASK IT AGAINST THE LAW TO OWN A BIBLE OR PRACTISE CHRISTIANITY IN KSA. Its not my words, its SAUIDI LAW and Im really surprised that muslims don know this.

On the Military BASE, you are correct BUT THATS BECAUSE THE SOLDIERS THAT FLY IN ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY SAUDI OFFCIALS AND THE BASE IS SEEN AS AN EXTENSION OF THE USA. It has the same international powers and protection as an embassy. Embassies are protested by international law. You are not allowed to enter or check diplomatic officers and their residence.


sino:

Well, i think you are wrong, check out this link
http://www.muslimspeak./2008/07/16/muslim-urban-legends-the-saudi-bible-ban/

Again, there are a lot of foreign expatriates working in KSA, they have the right to practice their religion even, an American military base was there during the gulf war and still there. Majority of these people are non-Muslims.
[b]This is interesting but Im sorry to burst your bubble, but its illegal in KSA. I would rather you quote the KSA government and not an unauthrised website and YT film. Freedom of religion is neither recognized nor protected under the law and is severely restricted in practice. According to the 1992 Basic Law, Sunni Islam is the official religion and the country’s constitution is the Qur’an and the Sunna (traditions and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad). Just because something is tolerated doesnt mean its allowed. Im talking from first hand experience. A co-workers BIBLE was taken AT THE AIRPORT. HE IS AMERICAN. Later one of the airport guys snook it back to him but told him to hide it. WHEN ASKED WHY HE WAS TOLD, THOUGH IT RARELY HAPPENS TO AMERICANS YOU CAN BE ARRESTED AS ITS AGAINST THE LAW. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME PLEASE ANYONE CALL THE EMBASSY AND SIMPLY ASK IT AGAINST THE LAW TO OWN A BIBLE OR PRACTISE CHRISTIANITY IN KSA. Its not me words, its SAUIDI LAW and Im really surprised that muslims don know this.

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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:57am On Jun 18, 2013
Stone age mentality. Who carries books around in paper form nowadays? My bible and koran and satanic handbook are all in one folder in the cloud. All versions. I download and read and copy and destroy as I want. Some people still get worked up over ink and paper. Mtcheeew.

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Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by Nobody: 11:00am On Jun 18, 2013
PBundles:




Interesting you claim Im a Bloody Christian ( who says I support or oppose christianity, why if someone makes critical point towards islam its seen as opposition? what are you afraid of) fanatic, yet just read how you address me ( is this the repsect muslims talk about) with respect when I asked a simple question. I wonder who is a fanatic. Back to the point, as I wont let you derail this which is what you want. Let me answer for you NONE. The quran is not banned in ANY country. North Korea which you fondly mentioned bans all forms of religions. So let me get this straight. You claim that Saudi Arabia is a pure islamic state but I THOUGHT SOMEONE JUST MENTIONED THAT ISLAM RESPECTS ALL REGIONS. I GUESS NOT. About christians in Jeddah, LET ME HELP YOU, IF THEY HAVE BIBLES TO WORHSIP WITH THEY MUST HAVE SMUGGLED IT IN SINCE THEY ALONG WITH ANY CHRISTIAN PARAPHANELIA ARE SEIZED AT THE PORT OF ENTRY AT THE AIRPORT. DONT YOU KNOW THAT. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

U don't smuggle pass those alphabet boys at their airports or borders..they got eagle eyes..they got scanners to detect everything thing U got..one thing i know for sure is that if u r an xpat with a bible for ur personal worship,my guy,dem go free U..Americans r demi gods in Arab Nations..forget dt madness CNN potrays,.. truth is an average Christian don't understand the tenets of Islam..all religion has got fanatics but its rather unfortunate Islam has the spotlight..talk of that brevik killing,talk of Buddhists who murdered thousands in Burma cos they Muslims,talk of so many atrocities committed by folks of other religion in d name of whatever or whoever they serve..the Quran just like the bible is a book filled with parables and some may understand it well while some may decide to turn it d other way round..Islam is religion of peace and any form of violence/violent act is FORBIDDEN EXCEPT FOR SELF DEFENSE
Re: Bible-burning Egyptian Cleric Jailed For 11 Years by PBundles(m): 11:07am On Jun 18, 2013
Atleast we are back to being cordial and Im no longer a BLOODY CHRISTIAN, so we have gotten somewhere. I never said that one religion is better than the other. On the contrary I believe that religion has been the center peace of most wars and conflicts. My point is simple, what it is it is, but dont make it better looking then it is. The fact is Bibles are banned in most islamic countries, do I get points or awards for it NO. Just say dude you are right , wish it wasnt that way but it is, I didnt make the rules. But dont tell me Im seeing Blue when I see Red.

sanniemoe:

U don't smuggle pass those alphabet boys at their airports or borders..they got eagle eyes..they got scanners to detect everything thing U got..one thing i know for sure is that if u r an xpat with a bible for ur personal worship,my guy,dem go free U..Americans r demi gods in Arab Nations..forget dt madness CNN potrays,.. truth is an average Christian don't understand the tenets of Islam..all religion has got fanatics but its rather unfortunate Islam has the spotlight..talk of that brevik killing,talk of Buddhists who murdered thousands in Burma cos they Muslims,talk of so many atrocities committed by folks of other religion in d name of whatever or whoever they serve..the Quran just like the bible is a book filled with parables and some may understand it well while some may decide to turn it d other way round..Islam is religion of peace and any form of violence/violent act is FORBIDDEN EXCEPT FOR SELF DEFENSE

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