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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 10:16pm On Jul 22, 2013
salt 1:
Are you the op? You're a doctor of what?
What of educating the girl? What of empowering her economically?
Does it not bother that the North is supplying the nation all the negative indices of poverty, disease and illiteracy? Don't you see the link btw child marriage and maternal and infant mortality?
Pls read Uwais' article on fp and stop exposing your perverted mindset

God bless you!

Great questions. Let me address them serially.

Are you the op? You're a doctor of what?
Not related to this discussion. Don't worry, not OBG

Does it not bother that the North is supplying the nation all the negative indices of poverty, disease and illiteracy?

The north was recently listed as having many of the best states to do business in Nigeria. The crises hitting the north is multifactorial. I recently wrote an article, "The Nuclear Alms Race" about the ALmajiri problem. There are 10 million abandoned children in the north, almajiris' this can be more highly correlated to the poverty crises than young wives. See: http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

Don't you see the link btw child marriage and maternal and infant mortality?
I discussed that link extensively in the article. the link is with poor health care and not with young motherhood. USA has 500,000 teen pregnancies/year as I mentioned. Their healthcare system handles it and so does their welfare system handle the single teen mothers epidemic. point is, we can both accept that pushing marriage age up and even cancelling marriage entirely will reduce and cancel out maternal mortality, however we must realize that we did so, not because young pregnancy is wrong, but because we have the worst medical infrastructure in the world.

Pls read Uwais' article on fp and stop exposing your perverted mindset
Her article is sentimental and lacks facts. i presented much data in my article. let's simply discuss this, or please present any point she made that you will like us to deliberate.

And please, no insults. Prove you have superior morality than those who marry 'children' that you attack.

best
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Nobody: 10:18pm On Jul 22, 2013
fcking animal, I spit on you and your lineage .






Superego:

God bless you!

Great questions. Let me address them serially.

Are you the op? You're a doctor of what?
Not related to this discussion. Don't worry, not OBG

Does it not bother that the North is supplying the nation all the negative indices of poverty, disease and illiteracy?

The north was recently listed as having many of the best states to do business in Nigeria. The crises hitting the north is multifunctional. I recently wrote an article, "The Nuclear Alms Race" about the ALmajiri problem. There are 10 million abandoned children in the north, almajiris' this can be more highly correlated to the poverty crises than young wives. See: http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

Don't you see the link btw child marriage and maternal and infant mortality?
I discussed that link extensively in the article. the link is with poor health care and not with young motherhood. USA has 500,000 teen pregnancies/year as I mentioned. Their healthcare system handles it and so does their welfare system handle the single teen mothers epidemic. point is, we can both accept that pushing marriage age up and even cancelling marriage entirely will reduce and cancel out maternal mortality, however we must realize that we did so, not because young pregnancy is wrong, but because we have the worst medical infrastructure in the world.

Pls read Uwais' article on fp and stop exposing your perverted mindset
Her article is sentimental and lacks facts. i presented much data in my article. let's simply discuss this, or please present any point she made that you will like us to deliberate.

And please, no insults. Prove you have superior morality than those who marry 'children' that you attack.

best



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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Sunglow: 10:30pm On Jul 22, 2013
@eightsin u actually spoke my thot.y shld a 50yrs old man marry a girl of 9,10,12.y not engage her to a boy of her choice who is a little older than her,until wen both have grown n r ready 2 b married
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 10:35pm On Jul 22, 2013
Sunglow: @eightsin u actually spoke my thot.y shld a 50yrs old man marry a girl of 9,10,12.y not engage her to a boy of her choice who is a little older than her,until wen both have grown n r ready 2 b married

OK, so we agree(with the US way) that teens(children as you call them) can marry, but the only thing is that they should only marry people few years older than them?

Please give this a clear yes, or no.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by toluene12: 10:47pm On Jul 22, 2013
The o.p looks to me like someone trying to justify his pedo.philic lifestyle but has failed to convince nobody.
First, it's ridiculous when people keep refering to the legal age of marriage in the western world. Those laws u people keep quoting are for 2 minors/teenagers who wants to get married and not an adult getting married to marry a minor. Try and present ur childbride b4 a judge in new york and see how he will scrutinize ur case. The child will be snatched away from u and she will be pressurised to say u're trying to force her into marriage. U will be chained, thrown into jail and made to admit to being a sex offender for the rest of ur life.
2. Early marriage does not protect anybody from bre.ast cancer rather it puts the girl at risk of cervical cancer- something u conveniently failed to mention. Prolonged exposure to estrogen isn't the only risk factor associated with bre.ast C.A. Genetic mutation, familial predisposition and presence of some specific genes play bigger roles. Stop reading or quoting manipulated and unsubstantiated reports as facts. I've managed many women with bre.ast C.A and majority started having children quite early.
3. VVF is not the only obstretics complication associated with teenage pregnancy, these poor girls are also at risk of premature labour, pelvic dislocation, nerve compression and its subsequent limb paralysis during labour. The fact remains menarche is one of early sign of secondary sexual xtics of a girl, other part of the body are still developing and she's in no way ready to carry a baby in her womb.
4. Its funny when people keep saying early marriage is a solution to premarital sex. What happened to sex education, parental care and monitoring, good moral upbringing, women empowerment so that they don't become vulnerable and child rights protective laws.
5. Early marriage and teenage pregnancy is a fast and easy route to poverty. Most of this girls dont stay long in their husband's home. They are kicked out once their husband gets tired of their chidish behaviours. With no education, or any formal training, she and her children becomes liabiity to the society and simply adds to the burden of poverty inflicting the nation.
6. I agree that teenage pregnancy is not uncommon in the western world, but its mainly found among the low socio economic class and the truth remains they are a huge burden to both the health and social welfare system. There4 teenage pregnancy is something that should be discouraged globally and not encouraged.
7. Why should a teenager be idle? A teenager should be in school receiving education. Be it a rural or urban community, its the duty of the govt to ensure every child is in school learning and not roaming around the street. Every child should be entitled to at least 12 years of education. By the time she completes this, she should be 18 yrs and thus free to decide what to do with her life as an ADULT.
8. Culture is dynamic, its never static. That my grandfathers practiced it does not mean the trend should continue. If i consider the practice detrimental then i should stop it. I dont care the age Mary or Aisha were impregnated, maybe it was acceptable during their time but not anymore. In this modern era it has been established both scientifically and socially that a girlchild and marriage are diametrically opposite and ther4 irreconciliable.

9. I didn't bother to read ur definition of pedo.phile because i know it wont make sense but anyone who derive sexual pleasure from pain inflicted on an innocent child either inside marriage or illegally is not only a pedo.phile but also a beast and a sick social pervert.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Sunglow: 10:51pm On Jul 22, 2013
[quote
author=raeez]Its a shame that what most xtians on nairaland do on any
issue that has islamic tag on it is to try by all means to bring out the
negative part in it by all means without even trying to look at it from
the biblical and the quranic point of view. Now that the OP is the
bringing in some factual proof of the advantages of early marriage of
teenage pregnancy they are saying its too long to read y'all should stop
being hypocrites and face the facts [/quote].shutuppppp,y didnt ur lsalm brodas also look @ d biblica n quarnic point of view b4 bombing churches.ewu kongo.now we r givin u a taste of ur own medicine u are screaming to 2 high heaves.engage d girl 2 a boy of her choice @ d same age group,wen d mature enough den dey marry
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by salt1: 10:53pm On Jul 22, 2013
Superego:

God bless you!

Great questions. Let me address them serially.

Are you the op? You're a doctor of what?
Not related to this discussion. Don't worry, not OBG

Does it not bother that the North is supplying the nation all the negative indices of poverty, disease and illiteracy?

The north was recently listed as having many of the best states to do business in Nigeria. The crises hitting the north is multifactorial. I recently wrote an article, "The Nuclear Alms Race" about the ALmajiri problem. There are 10 million abandoned children in the north, almajiris' this can be more highly correlated to the poverty crises than young wives. See: http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

Don't you see the link btw child marriage and maternal and infant mortality?
I discussed that link extensively in the article. the link is with poor health care and not with young motherhood. USA has 500,000 teen pregnancies/year as I mentioned. Their healthcare system handles it and so does their welfare system handle the single teen mothers epidemic. point is, we can both accept that pushing marriage age up and even cancelling marriage entirely will reduce and cancel out maternal mortality, however we must realize that we did so, not because young pregnancy is wrong, but because we have the worst medical infrastructure in the world.

Pls read Uwais' article on fp and stop exposing your perverted mindset
Her article is sentimental and lacks facts. i presented much data in my article. let's simply discuss this, or please present any point she made that you will like us to deliberate.

And please, no insults. Prove you have superior morality than those who marry 'children' that you attack.

best




I don't think I insulted you. I struggle, really struggle, to understand. The North has 10million almajiris and is still one of the best environments to do business? My understanding of business is where the people have the purchasing power. And purchasing power is a function of education even vocational education. What is the purchasing power of this 10million almajiris? What will they contribute to the economy in the future?
Can you not see that this is a vicious cycle? Illiterate and poverty stricken mothers breed babies who will only be like them.

500,000 teen mothers in the US isn't an epidemic, pls! In relation to their population. Most of these teen mothers have the opportunity for education and jobs.
Since our health care system is inadequate to cope, don't you think it's enough reason to dIscourage early teen pregnancy?

I am yet to see you discuss the implication of early marriage on educational attainment of these girls

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Nobody: 10:58pm On Jul 22, 2013
Superego:

God bless you!

Great questions. Let me address them serially.

Are you the op? You're a doctor of what?
Not related to this discussion. Don't worry, not OBG

Does it not bother that the North is supplying the nation all the negative indices of poverty, disease and illiteracy?

The north was recently listed as having many of the best states to do business in Nigeria. The crises hitting the north is multifactorial. I recently wrote an article, "The Nuclear Alms Race" about the ALmajiri problem. There are 10 million abandoned children in the north, almajiris' this can be more highly correlated to the poverty crises than young wives. See: http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

Don't you see the link btw child marriage and maternal and infant mortality?
I discussed that link extensively in the article. the link is with poor health care and not with young motherhood. USA has 500,000 teen pregnancies/year as I mentioned. Their healthcare system handles it and so does their welfare system handle the single teen mothers epidemic. point is, we can both accept that pushing marriage age up and even cancelling marriage entirely will reduce and cancel out maternal mortality, however we must realize that we did so, not because young pregnancy is wrong, but because we have the worst medical infrastructure in the world.

Pls read Uwais' article on fp and stop exposing your perverted mindset
Her article is sentimental and lacks facts. i presented much data in my article. let's simply discuss this, or please present any point she made that you will like us to deliberate.

And please, no insults. Prove you have superior morality than those who marry 'children' that you attack.

best



You're a paedoph1le and a poor excuse for a human being. Why didn't you answer the 2nd question about educating and empowering the female child economically

Also, why didn't you answer these questions asked by Biafranqueen
What age do you personally think a girl is ready to be married?
Do you have a daughter?
At what age is Pelvic Maternal growth complete?
There is a large population of single women in the North, especially in the Northern cities, due to the high divorce rate, why is that?

Why're are you answering some question and ignoring the rest??!!

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by lincolnj88: 10:59pm On Jul 22, 2013
Adamskuty: So mary got fvcked at d age of 12 according to the bible.. Hmm! Nawaa ooh!
d idiot quoted from one islamic book named d lost gospel dat is not in d bible.....mary was 22 wen got CHRIST
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 11:12pm On Jul 22, 2013
toluene12: The o.p looks to me like someone trying to justify his pedo.philic lifestyle but has failed to convince nobody.

When you slander, how does this justify your position of superior morality over those you accuse of violations?


toluene12: First, it's ridiculous when people keep refering to the legal age of marriage in the western world. Those laws u people keep quoting are for 2 minors/teenagers who wants to get married and not an adult getting married to marry a minor. Try and present ur childbride b4 a judge in new york and see how he will scrutinize ur case. The child will be snatched away from u and she will be pressurised to say u're trying to force her into marriage. U will be chained, thrown into jail and made to admit to being a sex offender for the rest of ur life.

So you agree with teen(child) marriage, your problem is only the age gap. How many years gap do you accept and support marriage of teens(children) at?_____________________


toluene12: 2. Early marriage does not protect anybody from bre.ast cancer rather it puts the girl at risk of cervical cancer- something u conveniently failed to mention. Prolonged exposure to estrogen isn't the only risk factor associated with bre.ast C.A. Genetic mutation, familial predisposition and presence of some specific genes play bigger roles. Stop reading or quoting manipulated and unsubstantiated reports as facts. I've managed many women with bre.ast C.A and majority started having children quite early.
Please provide a reputable study that indicates cervical cancer from marital sex at an early age. In my article above, I did give the link to US government cancer website that did determine that early pregnancy and bre.astfeeding reduced the incidence of bre.ast cancer. please refer. Thanks


toluene12: 3. VVF is not the only obstretics complication associated with teenage pregnancy, these poor girls are also at risk of premature labour, pelvic dislocation, nerve compression and its subsequent limb paralysis during labour. The fact remains menarche is one of early sign of secondary sexual xtics of a girl, other part of the body are still developing and she's in no way ready to carry a baby in her womb.
Ok, VVF off the table, now its premature labor, etc. can you substatiate these in relation to age and not nutritional status, and ante-natal care as my article mentions. Please provide a few links of studies to see what age and environment we are considering. Thanks


toluene12: 4. Its funny when people keep saying early marriage is a solution to premarital sex. What happened to sex education, parental care and monitoring, good moral upbringing, women empowerment so that they don't become vulnerable and child rights protective laws.
We are humans, let's deal with reality and not Utopia, please. Kindly Show empirical evidence of where the crises of AIDS, abortions,, single parenthood and other vices of early, premarital sex have been reasonably controlled by education, etc. Do you ever ask yourself why the Nigeria HIV map is like this? Do u not have pity for the many victims of AIDS in the south? Or, you only attributed and recognize the negative aspects of northern culture and purposefully ignore the life saving virtues?




toluene12: 5. Early marriage and teenage pregnancy is a fast and easy route to poverty. Most of this girls dont stay long in their husband's home. They are kicked out once their husband gets tired of their chidish behaviours. With no education, or any formal training, she and her children becomes liabiity to the society and simply adds to the burden of poverty inflicting the nation.
Are these because they are young or due to other lackadaisical and indignant attitudes of the men? I guess you will also blame the almajiri crises in north Nigeria on young brides? Let's be factual. Correlation is not attribution.

toluene12: 6. I agree that teenage pregnancy is not uncommon in the western world, but its mainly found among the low socio economic class and the truth remains they are a huge burden to both the health and social welfare system. There4 teenage pregnancy is something that should be discouraged globally and not encouraged.
Mute point. We can discuss teen pregnancy based on a mature approach like that, but it is when we say- barbarians, pedophiles, young must never be married, then we are challenging common sense.

toluene12: 7. Why should a teenager be idle? A teenager should be in school receiving education. Be it a rural or urban community, its the duty of the govt to ensure every child is in school learning and not roaming around the street. Every child should be entitled to at least 12 years of education. By the time she completes this, she should be 18 yrs and thus free to decide what to do with her life as an ADULT.
And if there is no school? he/she should wait and screw around till he/she is 18? I went to school in Bauchi, school there was a waste of my time. We exchange program sponsored southern candidates were top 1-3 in our class. When I moved back down south, I was last in my class. There are social challenges in the north, we must approach these in an empathic way. Eliminating early marriage will add disease and other complications on the society without addressing the problems.


toluene12: 8. Culture is dynamic, its never static. That my grandfathers practiced it does not mean the trend should continue. If i consider the practice detrimental then i should stop it. I dont care the age Mary or Aisha were impregnated, maybe it was acceptable during their time but not anymore. In this modern era it has been established both scientifically and socially that a girlchild and marriage are diametrically opposite and ther4 irreconciliable.
There is not much dynamic about age 18 only enforced on Africa and developing societies, less than 2 centuries ago. 18 was a quick, political decision and not based on evolution.

toluene12: 9. I didn't bother to read ur definition of pedo.phile because i know it wont make sense but anyone who derive sexual pleasure from pain inflicted on an innocent child either inside marriage or illegally is not only a pedo.phile but also a beast and a sick social pervert.
Perhaps you should. You don't want to use a term ignorantly.

Thanks a lot for your contributions to the conversation.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 11:17pm On Jul 22, 2013
salt 1:

I don't think I insulted you. I struggle, really struggle, to understand. The North has 10million almajiris and is still one of the best environments to do business? My understanding of business is where the people have the purchasing power. And purchasing power is a function of education even vocational education. What is the purchasing power of this 10million almajiris? What will they contribute to the economy in the future?
Can you not see that this is a vicious cycle? Illiterate and poverty stricken mothers breed babies who will only be like them.

500,000 teen mothers in the US isn't an epidemic, pls! In relation to their population. Most of these teen mothers have the opportunity for education and jobs.
Since our health care system is inadequate to cope, don't you think it's enough reason to dIscourage early teen pregnancy?

I am yet to see you discuss the implication of early marriage on educational attainment of these girls


1. Best states for doing business in Nigeria: http://newsrescue.com/10-easiest-states-to-do-business-in-nigeria/

Business is not about selling, also manufacture etc. It's called the "environment". Crime, type of workers/staff, etc. The north used to be very great grounds for set up.



2. These teen pregnancy, 500,000 for a population of 300M is an epidemic!

And as I mentioned in my article, most of them are on welfare, government welfare and the NY governor has so many new, embarrassing programs to combat it. But UN will not shout about that, cuz they respect the white man:

This is what u see at bus stops in NY:



Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 11:21pm On Jul 22, 2013
lincolnj88: d idiot quoted from one islamic book named d lost gospel dat is not in d bible.....mary was 22 wen got CHRIST

Can you support this age please? No, the Protevangelion is a lost gospel, has nothing to do with Islam.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 11:35pm On Jul 22, 2013
Superego:

Can you support this age please? No, the Protevangelion is a lost gospel, has nothing to do with Islam.
At what age is Pelvic Maternal growth complete? You did not answer me!

Are you saying that young girls would rather be married then go to school?
What age do you feel it is appropriate for a girl to be married?
On a personal level do you feel your mental capacity is equal to a 13 year old girl that you wish to marry?

Since you refuse to answer me the age is 18
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 11:39pm On Jul 22, 2013
This is ok in your heart and eyes

Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 11:40pm On Jul 22, 2013
You are fine with what you see in this picture? Nothing is wrong with it? So you could marry your daughter at this age?

Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 11:45pm On Jul 22, 2013
Pregnancy during adolescence carries many health risks. The risks of maternal and neonatal mortality are much greater for adolescents than adult women. They are also at increased risk of delivering babies preterm, and with low birthweight. The low birthweight of babies born to adolescent mothers is more than a case of small babies from small mothers. Young, still-growing adolescents, even when matched for nutritional status, have smaller newborns than adult mothers!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7998600

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.1330950103/abstract
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 11:54pm On Jul 22, 2013
he traditional age of marriage for Hausa girls is around eleven or twelve, although child betrothal at a younger age occurs. Most parents deem it imperative that their daughters marry by puberty; there is a great fear that delaying marriage will place the girl's chastity, and hence her marriage prospects, at risk. Since girls enter purdah upon marriage, "childhood" among Hausa girls ends by age eleven or twelve, often earlier. The notion that girls might attend school until the age of seventeen or eighteen is obviously in conflict with the values of this social and cultural system. -
See more at: http://www.culturalsurvival.org/ourpublications/csq/article/schooling-or-seclusion#sthash.WMmbp4Fh.dpuf
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 11:59pm On Jul 22, 2013
biafranqueen:
At what age is Pelvic Maternal growth complete? You did not answer me!

Things like this may interest you. These stats are gathered to support agenda, basically. The white man pretty much chooses which studies he makes books for Africa from:

Abstract

The purpose of this study was to determine if early adolescence imparts a significant obstetric risk in young primiparas relative to adult primiparas. The records of 239 young primiparas (< 16 years) and 148 older primiparas (18-29 years)

The young primiparas were significantly (P < .05) less likely to have a Cesarean delivery and to lacerate with vaginal delivery. The length of labor and its stages were similar, as were overall birthweight and length of gestation. Thus, obstetric concerns regarding pregnancy in early adolescence may be unfounded. With the exception of an increased risk for preterm labor, it appears that pregnancy, labor, and delivery do not pose inordinate obstetric and medical risk to the very young adolescent primipara. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8972410


Abstract
OBJECTIVE:

Fetal malposition, specifically occiput posterior and transverse (OP/OT), is associated with higher intra-partum morbidity. We tested the hypothesis that young maternal age and pelvic immaturity are risk factors for fetal malposition.

CONCLUSION:

Obesity, and not young maternal age or pelvic immaturity, is associated with fetal malposition. The direct association with increasing pre-pregnancy BMI and the long-term impacts of the high rates of cesarean delivery in this young population underscores the need for more public health focus. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22535195

biafranqueen: Are you saying that young girls would rather be married then go to school?

I am saying- give them the freedom and the choice and support them in what they choose. they can marry and still go to school as in the US they born kids and still go to school, if we decide to support this in the north, rather than keep insulting their reality, where over 6 million teens are married today.

biafranqueen: What age do you feel it is appropriate for a girl to be married?
On a personal level do you feel your mental capacity is equal to a 13 year old girl that you wish to marry?

Human beings are not food, with best before and expiry date. I am 100% against child marriage. When a lady is biologically and socially mature, if she wants, she can marry. I am for full women's rights to choose.

biafranqueen: Since you refuse to answer me the age is 18

No, to that I say: UN age 18 is regulation, not revelation
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 12:07am On Jul 23, 2013
Child marriage has its effects both on the girl-child and the society. These include

i. Early widowhood with its attendant problems;
ii. Spread of HIV/AIDs;
iii. Prostitution;
iv. Family problems;
v. Medical problems; and
vi. Early death from suicide.

Are these not the problems that most Hausa women face Mr.Doctor ?
What happens to a women when she is a widowed? Is she not thrown into begging and prostitution?
If she was educated would she not stand a better chance in this new global economy?
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 12:23am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen: Child marriage has its effects both on the girl-child and the society. These include

i. Early widowhood with its attendant problems;
ii. Spread of HIV/AIDs;
iii. Prostitution;
iv. Family problems;
v. Medical problems; and
vi. Early death from suicide.

Are these not the problems that most Hausa women face Mr.Doctor ?
What happens to a women when she is a widowed? Is she not thrown into begging and prostitution?
If she was educated would she not stand a better chance in this new global economy?


These are possible social problems....but if she had a single kid, by the time she is a widow, Nigeria's family based nuclear system should have at least one son take in the dad or mom. Promiscuity? Statistical disease data does not suggest any northern such issues. The south east is where is plagued with infectious std/HIV. Suicide? Haven't heard of this. Are we just looking for disadvantages here? Don't bother, I agree there are disadvantages to every thing in life.

Islam has another provision we MUST REMIND these men to embrace as much as they embrace the young marriage. Most of the prophets wives were widows, his first and single wife till she died was even 15 years older than him, 40 when he was 25. So when they marry a young wife, as the prophet did, they MUST/SHOULD also marry a widow, as he did much more of.

I am a strong proponent of social welfare, God, only if these stupid protests in Nigeria were for /against corruption, bad leadership and for social welfare.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 12:26am On Jul 23, 2013
Did you read this part of the study? The good results accomplished in our centre could be attributed to the free and readily available prenatal care and the quality of support from the family or welfare agencies that are involved with the care of teenage mothers.
Unfortunately, in Nigeria these kind of services are not provided for the masses

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 12:34am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen: Did you read this part of the study? The good results accomplished in our centre could be attributed to the free and readily available prenatal care and the quality of support from the family or welfare agencies that are involved with the care of teenage mothers.
Unfortunately, in Nigeria these kind of services are not provided for the masses

My article right? because I wrote the same thing under the VVF heading.

This is true, so we can tell northerners- please delay your marriage, not because your religious values are wrong, no ban on it, but because the current nutrition level and health care can not handle it. Perhaps this approach will bring better results and will make us decide to improve health care, etc if guys wish to marry young. Guys and Africans are humans, not goats.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 12:36am On Jul 23, 2013
Superego:

These are possible social problems....but if she had a single kid, by the time she is a widow, Nigeria's family based nuclear system should have at least one son take in the dad or mom. Promiscuity? Statistical disease data does not suggest any northern such issues. The south east is where is plagued with infectious std/HIV. Suicide? Haven't heard of this. Are we just looking for disadvantages here? Don't bother, I agree there are disadvantages to every thing in life.

Islam has another provision we MUST REMIND these men to embrace as much as they embrace the young marriage. Most of the prophets wives were widows, his first and single wife till she died was even 15 years older than him, 40 when he was 25. So when they marry a young wife, as the prophet did, they MUST/SHOULD also marry a widow, as he did much more of.

I am a strong proponent of social welfare, God, only if these stupid protests in Nigeria were for /against corruption, bad leadership and for social welfare.

I also am a strong proponent of social welfare and if you read my post I am strongly against corruption and the current leadership in all the states. I am glad to read that you are 100% against child marriages. I am also happy that you agree that a 13-18 has nothing in common with someone that is 2 to 3 decades older then her.

I would love to read and support a topic written by you against corruption and bad leadership, your writing skills are superb.

Off topic are you really a Muslim working for a Christian organization? I hold no affiliation for any organized religion, I am just curious?

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 12:45am On Jul 23, 2013
Superego:

My article right? because I wrote the same thing under the VVF heading.

This is true, so we can tell northerners- please delay your marriage, not because your religious values are wrong, no ban on it, but because the current nutrition level and health care can not handle it. Perhaps this approach will bring better results and will make us decide to improve health care, etc if guys wish to marry young. Guys and Africans are humans, not goats.

Hahaha I agree with you that would be a better approach. Also as I stated early marriage was prevalent only 2 generations ago in Igboland but the girl had a right to accept the man or not.

I myself find Hausa people to be the most honest and open people in Nigeria. I only do money exchange with Hausa's only and they are very humble. I am passionate about this because I have heard with my own ears the atrocities of girls abused by old men in the name of marriage. In the village (Nnewi) we have two houses on our property rented by Hausa's because I was born in America they always want to hear about the USA, that is how I heard the stories from run away brides and young widows. I wish they could come to this forum and express themselves they deserve to be heard by the whole world.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 12:46am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen:

I also am a strong proponent of social welfare and if you read my post I am strongly against corruption and the current leadership in all the states. I am glad to read that you are 100% against child marriages. I am also happy that you agree that a 13-18 has nothing in common with someone that is 2 to 3 decades older then her.

I would love to read and support a topic written by you against corruption and bad leadership, your writing skills are superb.

Off topic are you really a Muslim working for a Christian organization? I hold no affiliation for any organized religion, I am just curious?

Thank you for your interest, accommodation, respect, and reasonable discourse in this matter.

Corruption is not really my field, I am more about social ills:

I coined the phrase, "Genocidal thinking,"which you can rad ere: http://saharareporters.com/article/genocidal-thinking-dr-peregrino-brimah

"The Nuclear Alms Race" criticizes the north their habit of child abandonment: http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

And "Peace With The Beast? Say Mun Kawo Karshensu" tells Boko Haram, that we will not negotiate with them, we will fight them to extinction: http://saharareporters.com/article/peace-beast-say-mun-kawo-karshensu-dr-peregrino-brimah

Please let me know what you think.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by lamex20(m): 12:54am On Jul 23, 2013
stone2x: [size=18pt]question [/size]Last bullet======> what on earth would attract a man of 50 years to a little girl of 14?

[size=18pt]Ans[/size]==================> sickness
NA Death ooo
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by BetaThings: 1:00am On Jul 23, 2013
BeaThings:
Here is a challenge
I dare the Christians here to go to the family court in Lagos or Ministry of Women Affairs to check out
Who commit the most act of molestation against underage girls. I am talking from age 4

I dare Christians to take up the challenge instead of preaching unfounded righteous homily here


Before this incident, this guy would have been lambasting Muslims for liking under aged girls
https://www.nairaland.com/1367190/9-year-old-girl-molested-death-calabar
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by BetaThings: 1:00am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen: You are fine with what you see in this picture? Nothing is wrong with it? So you could marry your daughter at this age?

This is a fabrication
Please stop it!!!



https://www.nairaland.com/1177010/hoaxes-fabrications-islam-muslims
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 1:15am On Jul 23, 2013
Superego:

Thank you for your interest, accommodation, respect, and reasonable discourse in this matter.

Corruption is not really my field, I am more about social ills:

I coined the phrase, "Genocidal thinking,"which you can rad ere: http://saharareporters.com/article/genocidal-thinking-dr-peregrino-brimah

"The Nuclear Alms Race" criticizes the north their habit of child abandonment: http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race

And "Peace With The Beast? Say Mun Kawo Karshensu" tells Boko Haram, that we will not negotiate with them, we will fight them to extinction: http://saharareporters.com/article/peace-beast-say-mun-kawo-karshensu-dr-peregrino-brimah

Please let me know what you think.



http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race cry cry I have tears in my eyes this is very touching. I will leave a comment on all of them you are Very Very talented I totally agree with your assessment of the Boko Boys.

As for the http://saharareporters.com/article/genocidal-thinking-dr-peregrino-brimah
This is very brilliant many of my people are still damaged by Biafran War. If I was born during the war I myself may have also been damaged in the ways you mentioned in the article. We have to heal our country. Thank you for your contributions, you are doing a good job in expressing the views of your people. May Allah continue to bless you and your work!

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 1:17am On Jul 23, 2013
BetaThings:

This is a fabrication
Please stop it!!!



https://www.nairaland.com/1177010/hoaxes-fabrications-islam-muslims


What do you mean are you saying that young girls are not married off in the North
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 1:39am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen:
http://saharareporters.com/article/nigeria-almajiri-and-nuclear-alms-race cry cry I have tears in my eyes this is very touching. I will leave a comment on all of them you are Very Very talented I totally agree with your assessment of the Boko Boys.

As for the http://saharareporters.com/article/genocidal-thinking-dr-peregrino-brimah
This is very brilliant many of my people are still damaged by Biafran War. If I was born during the war I myself may have also been damaged in the ways you mentioned in the article. We have to heal our country. Thank you for your contributions, you are doing a good job in expressing the views of your people. May Allah continue to bless you and your work!

WOW! You really read all already. Thanks for the complements. We all have been affected. I denied it and argued with a colleague and close friend for years, before I finally realized I was guilty of genocidal thought....how my forum accusations fueled guns and knives that actually maimed.

This is long, but as someone said, 'sweet to the last drop,' Hope you enjoy it: "Nigeria's Revolution Was Not Televised" http://newsrescue.com/nigerias-revolution-was-not-televised-ends/#axzz2ZpBo2ej4
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by 1bunne4lif(m): 1:47am On Jul 23, 2013
One thing is for sure; underage marriage is unjustifiable. Forget about the whole engnish many will use to justify their shameful act, we should think and also be able to know that our little children did not complain that they need husbands or want to be intimate at that age. All those that supported the bill are agents of destruction and should be given no room to carry out their ungodly act. If a parent give a child out for marriage at a tender age, something must have taken place. These evil men will stop at nothing to use their wealth to get what they want making series of promises just to win the parent's heart. How would there men even feel when making love to somebody that should be their grand child? Shame on all those in support of this bill. GOD DEY SEE ONA O

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