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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 5:03am On Jul 23, 2013
1bunne4lif: One thing is for sure; underage marriage is unjustifiable. Forget about the whole engnish many will use to justify their shameful act, we should think and also be able to know that our little children did not complain that they need husbands or want to be intimate at that age. All those that supported the bill are agents of destruction and should be given no room to carry out their ungodly act. If a parent give a child out for marriage at a tender age, something must have taken place. These evil men will stop at nothing to use their wealth to get what they want making series of promises just to win the parent's heart. How would there men even feel when making love to somebody that should be their grand child? Shame on all those in support of this bill. GOD DEY SEE ONA O

Are you sure that after puberty your young adults do not complain that they want to fog? Well, one thing we know about Africans is, we created a stiffness and forced silence morality in our children, so they dare not express the reality to us. Dear, they not only complain, but from puberty till 27 when society makes it nice for them to marry, behind our backs, they fog and fog and fog, several different partners. They medicate for STD's and they abort. And when they finally want to marry, their husband to be, tests them first to see if they get pregnant, then they carry the small bump to the wedding. And this my dear, is normal, and God sees the fornication and lewdness and murder of unborns in the western society that we vote for our kids.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by tintingz(m): 5:59am On Jul 23, 2013
lincolnj88: d idiot quoted from one islamic book named d lost gospel dat is not in d bible.....mary was 22 wen got CHRIST
Mary was 22 when she got Christ?? This is a false age to the Catholic... Mary was 12-14 years old when she gave birth to Jesus according to the catholics and the jews
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by donlet(m): 6:03am On Jul 23, 2013
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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 7:16am On Jul 23, 2013
eightsin: The OP omitted something which i find disturbing... He forgot (intentionally or by error) to include the ages of d people whom these 14,16years old etc can get married to...lets take for example...can a 14year old girl marry a 19 year old boy in U:S.A?

Last bullet======> what on earth would attract a man of 50 years to a little girl of 14?

2 points-

1, what is the youngest age a woman should marry at. I see you accept US states that allow 13 and less, but ask for the gap with the husband to be miniscule?

2. I see that you are worried about a gap of 50-14= 36?


Ok, I guess we don't need to discuss the youngness of the bride as you are ready to slave to the US accepted young age, 0-13, so let's consider the gap of 36.

Here may be some things, do you disapprove?:


Wendi Deng, 42, rose from a middle class Chinese family to marry one of the world's richest moguls, 80-year-old Rupert Murdoch. The woman behind the man made the front pages last year when she protected her husband from a cream pie attack at the UK media inquiry.
Age gap: 38 years


[img]http://static2.kleinezeitung.at/system/galleries_520x335/upload/3/0/6/2995910/wlaschek_raunig726.jpg[/img]
Despite getting engaged at 94 years old, Austrian supermarket mogul Karl Wlaschek is in no hurry to bring on the big day. The world's fifth-oldest billionaire asked girlfriend Friederike 'Ricki' Schenk to marry him earlier this year but has yet to set a date. As is a woman's prerogative, Schenk has gracefully declined to reveal her age.
Age gap: Unknown


Here's another couple still enjoying their engagement. One of France's wealthiest men, 50-year-old Arnaud Lagardere, is set to marry his Belgian supermodel girlfriend Jade Forest, 20. The couple caused a stir last year when their raunchy photoshoot snaps were published online, causing one PR expert to tell London's Times newspaper the media mogul "looks like he has lost his mind".
Age gap: 30 years


[img]http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/01/Kristy+Hinze+Jim+Clark+Marry+Caribbean+_Pl1r5X_sr3l.jpg[/img]
He's a super-rich, 68-year-old internet pioneer from Silicon Valley; she's a 32-year-old cover girl from Queensland. Jim Clark and Kristy Hinze have been happily married since 2009, giving birth to their first child in 2011. When not attending glamorous fashion shows, the couple spend much of their time letting their hair down sailing on Jim's 90-metre superyacht.
Age gap: 36 years

[img]http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joan+Dangerfield+Kirk+Kerkorian+Joan+Dangerfield+rIinbGY8Lqux.jpg[/img]
He's in good shape for a 95-year-old - and so is she at 59. Las Vegas casino mogul Kirk Kerkorian has rolled the dice in marriage for a fourth time with Joan Dangerfield. With his personal fortune said to exceed a staggering $16 billion, Kerkorian's new wife was at a loss at what to buy him for his birthday this year - so she opted to surprise him with a flash mob dance troupe at the Beverly Hills Hotel. What else do you get the man with everything?
Age gap: 36 years


One billionaire for whom young apparently just wasn't young enough, in 2007 Joe Hardy reportedly divorced his 23-year-old manicurist wife Kristen Georgi (pictured) for 22-year-old Danielle Golden.
Age gap: 61 (and 62) years



The billionaire most merely love to hate, Donald Trump, 66, wooed 42-year-old former model Melania Knauss and wed the Slovenian beauty in 2005. When the grumpy property tycoon and star of the reality TV show 'The Apprentice' announced his intention to run for President last year, some internet wags suggested the third Mrs Trump could become 'the hottest First Lady ever'.
Age gap: 24 years

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/executivesuite/downtime/252641/billionaires-with-much-younger-wives.slideshow


So is it gap or minimum age, or is it a unique combination of gap+minimum age that happens in Africa that troubles us?

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 7:31am On Jul 23, 2013
Hahaha but they were not married at 15 again what does a 15 year old have to talk about with a 45 old. Even my own 10 year gap with my husband can prove to be challenging at times. All these marriages are gold digger related and I am sure these women were smiling all the way to the alter you must be joking my friend tongue
By the way why do Northerners have so many children and then keep only a few that article is really on my brain I am against abortion but abandoning children to fend for themselves is heart wrenching that to me is worst then abortion!

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by bankbened: 7:33am On Jul 23, 2013
Good article to explain it all, but either legal or not legal, a man or even boy dat propose to my 13 yr old daugther, i will kill him,

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Adamskuty(m): 8:00am On Jul 23, 2013
jentlsoul: I am a muslim but what u said is blasphemy. God command is final because we human are nothing but tool in the hand of our creator. May God show u d light
i said according to the bible,mister.

I'm in light already,may God bring u out of darkness
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by abdullone: 8:07am On Jul 23, 2013
"See the cannot see hear the cannot hear".. am just so ashamed of many nigerians that the call thems literates, u guys just cant see reasons with others your brain are soo blocked and myopic that u cant reason beyound your little cycle... if our youth are thinking this way why wont the produces senatoers that dont know thiet constitution and president that are weak...may Allah heal our youth from this deadly desease called ignorance
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by hardtruth09: 8:12am On Jul 23, 2013
May God bless u 4 d enlightment.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by biafranqueen: 8:19am On Jul 23, 2013
Superego please read this by an intelligent well educated Muslim WOMEN
https://www.nairaland.com/1367909/maryam-uwais-senator-yerima-constitutional#16958707
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by zuchyblink(m): 8:31am On Jul 23, 2013
Deschil: I googled the fool: Aziz Peregrino-Brimah. I had even thought he was a Medical Doctor. Can someone please tell me how someone who studied Psychology from "Livingstone College" became a Dr. Is that of Medicine or a PhD? Confused impostor. http://www.linkedin.com/in/azizpbrimah
psychology is a flexible field which has rapour with different field including medicine,and the explanation he gave on VVF was shallow.and he spoke from the psychological point of view,ignoring sentiments.i think the issue of early marriage is the matter of leave and let leave,but considering education,if i'm to say after secondary school but not considered as A MUST
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by DMerciful(m): 8:32am On Jul 23, 2013
toluene12: The o.p looks to me like someone trying to justify his pedo.philic lifestyle but has failed to convince nobody.
First, it's ridiculous when people keep refering to the legal age of marriage in the western world. Those laws u people keep quoting are for 2 minors/teenagers who wants to get married and not an adult getting married to marry a minor. Try and present ur childbride b4 a judge in new york and see how he will scrutinize ur case. The child will be snatched away from u and she will be pressurised to say u're trying to force her into marriage. U will be chained, thrown into jail and made to admit to being a sex offender for the rest of ur life.
2. Early marriage does not protect anybody from bre.ast cancer rather it puts the girl at risk of cervical cancer- something u conveniently failed to mention. Prolonged exposure to estrogen isn't the only risk factor associated with bre.ast C.A. Genetic mutation, familial predisposition and presence of some specific genes play bigger roles. Stop reading or quoting manipulated and unsubstantiated reports as facts. I've managed many women with bre.ast C.A and majority started having children quite early.
3. VVF is not the only obstretics complication associated with teenage pregnancy, these poor girls are also at risk of premature labour, pelvic dislocation, nerve compression and its subsequent limb paralysis during labour. The fact remains menarche is one of early sign of secondary sexual xtics of a girl, other part of the body are still developing and she's in no way ready to carry a baby in her womb.
4. Its funny when people keep saying early marriage is a solution to premarital sex. What happened to sex education, parental care and monitoring, good moral upbringing, women empowerment so that they don't become vulnerable and child rights protective laws.
5. Early marriage and teenage pregnancy is a fast and easy route to poverty. Most of this girls dont stay long in their husband's home. They are kicked out once their husband gets tired of their chidish behaviours. With no education, or any formal training, she and her children becomes liabiity to the society and simply adds to the burden of poverty inflicting the nation.
6. I agree that teenage pregnancy is not uncommon in the western world, but its mainly found among the low socio economic class and the truth remains they are a huge burden to both the health and social welfare system. There4 teenage pregnancy is something that should be discouraged globally and not encouraged.
7. Why should a teenager be idle? A teenager should be in school receiving education. Be it a rural or urban community, its the duty of the govt to ensure every child is in school learning and not roaming around the street. Every child should be entitled to at least 12 years of education. By the time she completes this, she should be 18 yrs and thus free to decide what to do with her life as an ADULT.
8. Culture is dynamic, its never static. That my grandfathers practiced it does not mean the trend should continue. If i consider the practice detrimental then i should stop it. I dont care the age Mary or Aisha were impregnated, maybe it was acceptable during their time but not anymore. In this modern era it has been established both scientifically and socially that a girlchild and marriage are diametrically opposite and ther4 irreconciliable.

9. I didn't bother to read ur definition of pedo.phile because i know it wont make sense but anyone who derive sexual pleasure from pain inflicted on an innocent child either inside marriage or illegally is not only a pedo.phile but also a beast and a sick social pervert.
10000 likes
God bless u Toluene

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by shikshark: 8:36am On Jul 23, 2013
The Authors name sound medieval, rings a bell in lord of the rings
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 8:38am On Jul 23, 2013
bankbened: Good article to explain it all, but either legal or not legal, a man or even boy dat propose to my 13 yr old daugther, i will kill him,

For a marriage to ever go ahead, the MATURE daughter must be 100% willing and the parents must approve. So fear not.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 8:42am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen: Hahaha but they were not married at 15 again what does a 15 year old have to talk about with a 45 old. Even my own 10 year gap with my husband can prove to be challenging at times. All these marriages are gold digger related and I am sure these women were smiling all the way to the alter you must be joking my friend tongue
By the way why do Northerners have so many children and then keep only a few that article is really on my brain I am against abortion but abandoning children to fend for themselves is heart wrenching that to me is worst then abortion!

He will be an institution for his wife. The traditional values and relationships of marriage are what? Discussions on TV reality shows? Older men can be great in-home educational institutions. I know women may find this reprehensible, but same applies, a young man marrying an older women, like the prophet Mohammed(P) of Islam did, marrying a woman 25 years older than him, his first wife to whom he was wed, alone, until she died--and then he married several. Khadijah, his older and only wife till she died, was like a mother to him, consoled him when he was scared after receiving his first revelation when he ran home and put his head on her bosom.

The discussion should be-- what is the role of marriage and what are the valuable interactions a marriage can provide. Perhaps these things are not things we have ever really considered.

Like I said, I am pro choice. At MATURITY!

We must together fight the child abandonment. "The Nuclear Alms Race" article is my initial effort. 10 million abandoned children in the north is the greatest crime of the north. I was thinking of an "adopt an almajiri" program. I will get all my family to adopt one each, God willing.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 8:44am On Jul 23, 2013
biafranqueen: Superego please read this by an intelligent well educated Muslim WOMEN
https://www.nairaland.com/1367909/maryam-uwais-senator-yerima-constitutional#16958707

I am writing a response to that. Hold your horses for article captioned: "Maryam Uwais: 18 is a UN regulation and Not a revelation"

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 9:02am On Jul 23, 2013
zuchyblink: psychology is a flexible field which has rapour with different field including medicine,and the explanation he gave on VVF was shallow.and he spoke from the psychological point of view,ignoring sentiments.i think the issue of early marriage is the matter of leave and let leave,but considering education,if i'm to say after secondary school but not considered as A MUST

Dr. Peregrino Brimah is NOT the person you quoted. VVF's are NOT caused by young age, but by poor obstetric and medical care. And tat is not debatable.

This is VVF

Risk Factors

Although the exact incidence of vesico-vaginal fistula in the United States is unknown, estimates range between 0.01 to 0.04% of gynecologic procedures. In developing countries vesico-vaginal fistulas are more common and are related to obstructed labor due to unattended deliveries, small pelvic dimensions, malpresentation, poor uterine contractions and introital stenosis. The primary cause of vesico-vaginal fistula in the United States is related to gynecologic surgery. In a series of 303 women with genitourinary fistula by Lee et al., fistulas were related to gynecologic surgery in 82%, obstetric events in 8%, radiation therapy in 6%, and trauma or fulguration in 4%. (1) Rare causes of VVF include lymphogranuloma venereum, tuberculosis, syphilis, bladder stones, retained foreign body in the vagina, and trauma. Spontaneous vesico-uterine fistula has also been reported as a rare complication following uncomplicated vaginal birth after Caesarean section. (2) Most commonly, vesico-vaginal fistulas in developing countries are associated with benign gynecologic surgery, especially hysterectomy, and are caused by extensive dissection between the bladder and the uterus, unrecognized bladder laceration, inappropriate stitch placement, and/or devascularization injury to the tissue planes. Concurrent ureteric involvement has been reported to be as high 10-15% of vesico-vaginal fistula cases. Patient risk factors which may predispose to development of vesico-vaginal fistula include prior pelvic surgery, history of PID, pelvic malignancy, endometriosis, infection, diabetes, and anatomic distortion. The presence of these risk factors should be considered pre-operatively and patients counseled accordingly. http://www.womenshealthsection.com/content/urogvvf/urogvvf002.php3

Please check any other source on it.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by maxisfield(f): 9:48am On Jul 23, 2013
Wat a termpaper!..am nt dt jobless sad
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by shdemidemi(m): 10:05am On Jul 23, 2013
Adamskuty: So mary got intimate at d age of 12 according to the bible.. Hmm! Nawaa ooh!
Stick to your bible, all those catholic books can't be trusted.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by DMerciful(m): 10:12am On Jul 23, 2013
Superego:

2 points-

1, what is the youngest age a woman should marry at. I see you accept US states that allow 13 and less, but ask for the gap with the husband to be miniscule?

2. I see that you are worried about a gap of 50-14= 36?


Ok, I guess we don't need to discuss the youngness of the bride as you are ready to slave to the US accepted young age, 0-13, so let's consider the gap of 36.

Here may be some things, do you disapprove?:


Wendi Deng, 42, rose from a middle class Chinese family to marry one of the world's richest moguls, 80-year-old Rupert Murdoch. The woman behind the man made the front pages last year when she protected her husband from a cream pie attack at the UK media inquiry.
Age gap: 38 years


[img]http://static2.kleinezeitung.at/system/galleries_520x335/upload/3/0/6/2995910/wlaschek_raunig726.jpg[/img]
Despite getting engaged at 94 years old, Austrian supermarket mogul Karl Wlaschek is in no hurry to bring on the big day. The world's fifth-oldest billionaire asked girlfriend Friederike 'Ricki' Schenk to marry him earlier this year but has yet to set a date. As is a woman's prerogative, Schenk has gracefully declined to reveal her age.
Age gap: Unknown


Here's another couple still enjoying their engagement. One of France's wealthiest men, 50-year-old Arnaud Lagardere, is set to marry his Belgian supermodel girlfriend Jade Forest, 20. The couple caused a stir last year when their raunchy photoshoot snaps were published online, causing one PR expert to tell London's Times newspaper the media mogul "looks like he has lost his mind".
Age gap: 30 years


[img]http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/01/Kristy+Hinze+Jim+Clark+Marry+Caribbean+_Pl1r5X_sr3l.jpg[/img]
He's a super-rich, 68-year-old internet pioneer from Silicon Valley; she's a 32-year-old cover girl from Queensland. Jim Clark and Kristy Hinze have been happily married since 2009, giving birth to their first child in 2011. When not attending glamorous fashion shows, the couple spend much of their time letting their hair down sailing on Jim's 90-metre superyacht.
Age gap: 36 years

[img]http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joan+Dangerfield+Kirk+Kerkorian+Joan+Dangerfield+rIinbGY8Lqux.jpg[/img]
He's in good shape for a 95-year-old - and so is she at 59. Las Vegas casino mogul Kirk Kerkorian has rolled the dice in marriage for a fourth time with Joan Dangerfield. With his personal fortune said to exceed a staggering $16 billion, Kerkorian's new wife was at a loss at what to buy him for his birthday this year - so she opted to surprise him with a flash mob dance troupe at the Beverly Hills Hotel. What else do you get the man with everything?
Age gap: 36 years


One billionaire for whom young apparently just wasn't young enough, in 2007 Joe Hardy reportedly divorced his 23-year-old manicurist wife Kristen Georgi (pictured) for 22-year-old Danielle Golden.
Age gap: 61 (and 62) years



The billionaire most merely love to hate, Donald Trump, 66, wooed 42-year-old former model Melania Knauss and wed the Slovenian beauty in 2005. When the grumpy property tycoon and star of the reality TV show 'The Apprentice' announced his intention to run for President last year, some internet wags suggested the third Mrs Trump could become 'the hottest First Lady ever'.
Age gap: 24 years

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/executivesuite/downtime/252641/billionaires-with-much-younger-wives.slideshow


So is it gap or minimum age, or is it a unique combination of gap+minimum age that happens in Africa that troubles us?



I think its a travesty for you to compare an 80yr man marrying a 44yr old woman and a 50yr old man marrying a 14yr old girl. you said u' re 100% against child marriage and at the same time justifying it.....stop blowing hot and cold!
Superego, in your heart of heart, you know the right thing....stand up for the right thing!

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Dovahkiin(m): 10:56am On Jul 23, 2013
Superego:

2 points-

1, what is the youngest age a woman should marry at. I see you accept US states that allow 13 and less, but ask for the gap with the husband to be miniscule?

2. I see that you are worried about a gap of 50-14= 36?


Ok, I guess we don't need to discuss the youngness of the bride as you are ready to slave to the US accepted young age, 0-13, so let's consider the gap of 36.

Here may be some things, do you disapprove?:

Wendi Deng, 42, rose from a middle class Chinese family to marry one of the world's richest moguls, 80-year-old Rupert Murdoch. The woman behind the man made the front pages last year when she protected her husband from a cream pie attack at the UK media inquiry.
Age gap: 38 years

He's in good shape for a 95-year-old - and so is she at 59. Las Vegas casino mogul Kirk Kerkorian has rolled the dice in marriage for a fourth time with Joan Dangerfield. With his personal fortune said to exceed a staggering $16 billion, Kerkorian's new wife was at a loss at what to buy him for his birthday this year - so she opted to surprise him with a flash mob dance troupe at the Beverly Hills Hotel. What else do you get the man with everything?
Age gap: 36 years

One billionaire for whom young apparently just wasn't young enough, in 2007 Joe Hardy reportedly divorced his 23-year-old manicurist wife Kristen Georgi (pictured) for 22-year-old Danielle Golden.
Age gap: 61 (and 62) years


The billionaire most merely love to hate, Donald Trump, 66, wooed 42-year-old former model Melania Knauss and wed the Slovenian beauty in 2005. When the grumpy property tycoon and star of the reality TV show 'The Apprentice' announced his intention to run for President last year, some internet wags suggested the third Mrs Trump could become 'the hottest First Lady ever'.
Age gap: 24 years

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/executivesuite/downtime/252641/billionaires-with-much-younger-wives.slideshow


So is it gap or minimum age, or is it a unique combination of gap+minimum age that happens in Africa that troubles us?




im not sure if ure serious or not comparing a 55 year old and a 13 year old to a 60 year old and a 20 year old , if u ... . It doesnt matter if its allowed in the usa , common sense and morality tell you that a child is a child , no parent has the right to marry out their child . The child shd be grown enough and informed enough to make that decision herself . Maybe they shd start marrying you idi0t men at 11 to 50 year old women

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by nukoduss: 12:21pm On Jul 23, 2013
I know the gullible one will find this article to Read
Meanwhile I doff ma cap for the writer
Best article Indeed
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Tgirl4real(f): 12:31pm On Jul 23, 2013
Superego: Nairaland,

I am Dr. Peregrino Brimah, here to take your questions.

Please put questions and comments as clearly as possible, so i can address them and we can discuss them together.

Let this be constructive and free of derogatory reference as much as possible please. I myself will try to do so.


Let's refrain from insulting the OP or the author of the article.

If you have any questions or contrary view, kindly post it without insults.

Thanks.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Deschil: 12:47pm On Jul 23, 2013
GBAM! Now a REAL Dr has spoken! OP can you see the difference between his reasoning and yours? I choose to desist from bantering words with an impostor who (but for our inadequate Legal System in Nigeria) should be a registered sex offender. I maintain, SHAME ON YOU.
toluene12: The o.p looks to me like someone trying to justify his pedo.philic lifestyle but has failed to convince nobody.
First, it's ridiculous when people keep refering to the legal age of marriage in the western world. Those laws u people keep quoting are for 2 minors/teenagers who wants to get married and not an adult getting married to marry a minor. Try and present ur childbride b4 a judge in new york and see how he will scrutinize ur case. The child will be snatched away from u and she will be pressurised to say u're trying to force her into marriage. U will be chained, thrown into jail and made to admit to being a sex offender for the rest of ur life.
2. Early marriage does not protect anybody from bre.ast cancer rather it puts the girl at risk of cervical cancer- something u conveniently failed to mention. Prolonged exposure to estrogen isn't the only risk factor associated with bre.ast C.A. Genetic mutation, familial predisposition and presence of some specific genes play bigger roles. Stop reading or quoting manipulated and unsubstantiated reports as facts. I've managed many women with bre.ast C.A and majority started having children quite early.
3. VVF is not the only obstretics complication associated with teenage pregnancy, these poor girls are also at risk of premature labour, pelvic dislocation, nerve compression and its subsequent limb paralysis during labour. The fact remains menarche is one of early sign of secondary sexual xtics of a girl, other part of the body are still developing and she's in no way ready to carry a baby in her womb.
4. Its funny when people keep saying early marriage is a solution to premarital sex. What happened to sex education, parental care and monitoring, good moral upbringing, women empowerment so that they don't become vulnerable and child rights protective laws.
5. Early marriage and teenage pregnancy is a fast and easy route to poverty. Most of this girls dont stay long in their husband's home. They are kicked out once their husband gets tired of their chidish behaviours. With no education, or any formal training, she and her children becomes liabiity to the society and simply adds to the burden of poverty inflicting the nation.
6. I agree that teenage pregnancy is not uncommon in the western world, but its mainly found among the low socio economic class and the truth remains they are a huge burden to both the health and social welfare system. There4 teenage pregnancy is something that should be discouraged globally and not encouraged.
7. Why should a teenager be idle? A teenager should be in school receiving education. Be it a rural or urban community, its the duty of the govt to ensure every child is in school learning and not roaming around the street. Every child should be entitled to at least 12 years of education. By the time she completes this, she should be 18 yrs and thus free to decide what to do with her life as an ADULT.
8. Culture is dynamic, its never static. That my grandfathers practiced it does not mean the trend should continue. If i consider the practice detrimental then i should stop it. I dont care the age Mary or Aisha were impregnated, maybe it was acceptable during their time but not anymore. In this modern era it has been established both scientifically and socially that a girlchild and marriage are diametrically opposite and ther4 irreconciliable.

9. I didn't bother to read ur definition of pedo.phile because i know it wont make sense but anyone who derive sexual pleasure from pain inflicted on an innocent child either inside marriage or illegally is not only a pedo.phile but also a beast and a sick social pervert.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Deschil: 1:39pm On Jul 23, 2013
You wouldn't cease to amaze me. You really should be ashamed of yourself. Did you see that any of the brides were under-aged? Why do you insist on exposing your delusion?
Superego:

2 points-

1, what is the youngest age a woman should marry at. I see you accept US states that allow 13 and less, but ask for the gap with the husband to be miniscule?

2. I see that you are worried about a gap of 50-14= 36?


Ok, I guess we don't need to discuss the youngness of the bride as you are ready to slave to the US accepted young age, 0-13, so let's consider the gap of 36.

Here may be some things, do you disapprove?:


Wendi Deng, 42, rose from a middle class Chinese family to marry one of the world's richest moguls, 80-year-old Rupert Murdoch. The woman behind the man made the front pages last year when she protected her husband from a cream pie attack at the UK media inquiry.
Age gap: 38 years


[img]http://static2.kleinezeitung.at/system/galleries_520x335/upload/3/0/6/2995910/wlaschek_raunig726.jpg[/img]
Despite getting engaged at 94 years old, Austrian supermarket mogul Karl Wlaschek is in no hurry to bring on the big day. The world's fifth-oldest billionaire asked girlfriend Friederike 'Ricki' Schenk to marry him earlier this year but has yet to set a date. As is a woman's prerogative, Schenk has gracefully declined to reveal her age.
Age gap: Unknown


Here's another couple still enjoying their engagement. One of France's wealthiest men, 50-year-old Arnaud Lagardere, is set to marry his Belgian supermodel girlfriend Jade Forest, 20. The couple caused a stir last year when their raunchy photoshoot snaps were published online, causing one PR expert to tell London's Times newspaper the media mogul "looks like he has lost his mind".
Age gap: 30 years


[img]http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/01/Kristy+Hinze+Jim+Clark+Marry+Caribbean+_Pl1r5X_sr3l.jpg[/img]
He's a super-rich, 68-year-old internet pioneer from Silicon Valley; she's a 32-year-old cover girl from Queensland. Jim Clark and Kristy Hinze have been happily married since 2009, giving birth to their first child in 2011. When not attending glamorous fashion shows, the couple spend much of their time letting their hair down sailing on Jim's 90-metre superyacht.
Age gap: 36 years

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He's in good shape for a 95-year-old - and so is she at 59. Las Vegas casino mogul Kirk Kerkorian has rolled the dice in marriage for a fourth time with Joan Dangerfield. With his personal fortune said to exceed a staggering $16 billion, Kerkorian's new wife was at a loss at what to buy him for his birthday this year - so she opted to surprise him with a flash mob dance troupe at the Beverly Hills Hotel. What else do you get the man with everything?
Age gap: 36 years


One billionaire for whom young apparently just wasn't young enough, in 2007 Joe Hardy reportedly divorced his 23-year-old manicurist wife Kristen Georgi (pictured) for 22-year-old Danielle Golden.
Age gap: 61 (and 62) years



The billionaire most merely love to hate, Donald Trump, 66, wooed 42-year-old former model Melania Knauss and wed the Slovenian beauty in 2005. When the grumpy property tycoon and star of the reality TV show 'The Apprentice' announced his intention to run for President last year, some internet wags suggested the third Mrs Trump could become 'the hottest First Lady ever'.
Age gap: 24 years

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/executivesuite/downtime/252641/billionaires-with-much-younger-wives.slideshow


So is it gap or minimum age, or is it a unique combination of gap+minimum age that happens in Africa that troubles us?



Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by bunmioguns(m): 1:54pm On Jul 23, 2013
ferdonand: This might nt generat much problem if there is a way they can jst legalize it for you only and excluded every other person frm it. Or better still divided these country into seperate states wd seperate laws. Bt unfortunately it cant happen dt way. So stuck ur over sized cucumber back into ur trouser cos it frightens d poor child. Knock on my door 4 my baby girl nd u r a dead man. I am talking to u Bunmioguns





undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Caseless: 2:15pm On Jul 23, 2013
Adamskuty:

I'm in light already,may God bring u out of darkness
the guy is in light already. The only person in darkness is u. May Allah help u
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Dovahkiin(m): 2:20pm On Jul 23, 2013
pedo OP o don run?

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Caseless: 2:23pm On Jul 23, 2013
Deschil: You wouldn't cease to amaze me. You really should be ashamed of yourself. Did you see that any of the brides were under-aged? Why do you insist on exposing your delusion?
this particular post got me wondering if u read the article or the post that made superego to lay out marriages of wide gaps. If age gap was considered, then none these marriges wld have scaled thru.

Look at the points/issues he raised and not taking after the post he adressed to someone jst to point out his flaws.

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Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 2:32pm On Jul 23, 2013
caseless: this particular post got me wondering if u read the article or the post that made superego to lay out marriages of wide gaps. If age gap was considered, then none these marriges wld have scaled thru.

Look at the points/issues he raised and not taking after the post he adressed to someone jst to point out his flaws.

Thanks.

He/she obviously did not follow the trend of discussion.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 2:36pm On Jul 23, 2013
Here is something that might interest you guys on how the west treats, one of their own for drug raping a 13 year old girl:



http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/29/polanski.filmmakers.protest/

Filmmakers demand Polanski's release

ZURICH, Switzerland (CNN) -- Woody Allen, Pedro Almodovar and Martin Scorsese have "demanded the immediate release" of fellow filmmaker Roman Polanski, who was arrested in Switzerland on a U.S. arrest warrant related to a 1977 child sex charge.

They were among 138 people in the film industry who signed a petition against the arrest.

Polanski was on the way to the Zurich Film Festival when Swiss police detained him in response to the American warrant.

The filmmaker pleaded guilty in 1977 to having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor but fled before he could be sentenced. He settled in France, where he holds citizenship. Investigators in the United States say Polanski, then 43, drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl.

The filmmakers objected to his being arrested en route to the film festival, which held a tribute to him this year.

"It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary filmmakers, is used by the police to apprehend him," said the petition, backed by France's Societe des Auteurs et Compositeurs Dramatiques (Society of Dramatic Authors and Composers).

"The arrest of Roman Polanski in a neutral country, where he assumed he could travel without hindrance ... opens the way for actions of which no one can know the effects," said the signatories, who also included actresses Monica Bellucci and Tilda Swinton and directors David Lynch, Jonathan Demme, John Landis, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu and Wim Wenders.

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You will not believe the list of westerners that demanded his release, including CNN, France government, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner wished him freedom, with hundreds of Hollywood celebrities like Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, David Lynch, John Landis, Harvey Weinstein and even females like Monica Bellucci, Asia Argento, Debra Winger and Whoopi Goldberg defending him?


These are the crazy Caucasians who make all the laws we follow.
Re: 'My Thoughts On Child Marriage' - Peregrino Brimah (Dr) by Superego: 2:50pm On Jul 23, 2013
Do enjoy and critic:

http://www.modernghana.com/news/477030/1/maryam-uwais-18-is-a-un-regulation-and-not-a-revel.html
http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/07/23/peregrino-brimah-maryam-uwais-18-is-a-un-regulation-and-not-a-revelation/
http://newsrescue.com/maryam-uwais-18-is-a-un-regulation-and-not-a-revelation/#axzz2Zt7TATgF
http://saharareporters.com/article/maryam-uwais-18-un-regulation-and-not-revelation-dr-peregrino-brimah

[size=16pt]Maryam Uwais: 18 Is A UN Regulation And Not A Revelation[/size]



Salutations to you Mrs. Uwais. Your article was brilliant and I must say, I enjoyed reading every line of it. This is the level of intellectual discourse that I pray someday in the future, we will find among our elected officials, media and in our religious and social gatherings. Every point you raised is important and a useful contribution toward the discussion on early marriages. I must say, my anxiety when I began reading was soon laid to rest when I saw that were not treading the line of the many confused authors, activists and media houses that did not understand the constitutional decision that was made, and the fact that no bill was passed, nor law on child marriage created; what happened being Senator Ahmad Sani Yarima and the other 35 senators simply objecting to the deletion of section 29, and in effect maintaining a married, albeit--young woman's right of choice, as had been stipulated in the constitution.

We both know that Senator Yerima did not introduce Section 29 to Nigeria's constitution. We also both understand that the portion of section 29 in review describes a married(young) woman's right to decide to revoke her citizenship, and not her being mature because she married. In acknowledgment of these, the summary of my comments on your article are these two questions-

1. I ask, did Senator Yerima violate any Nigerian law by requesting a re-vote on maintaining this aspect of Nigeria's constitution?

2. Did Senator Yerima violate any Islamic law?

If he did not violate any Nigerian law, or Islamic law, then why have we put his case in front of the court of public sentiment, degradation and ridicule? Is this because he is a cheap target? I'm not sure if his wife has complained of a health problem or other inconvenience to us? Are the protests against Senator Yarima justified in your view, more so as 99% of the protesters believe a "child marriage bill" was introduced by Senator Yarima and passed by the senate, being completely ignorant of the facts of the senate proceeding. This misinformation error, so grave, it appears to have been intentionally constructed by media elements. Should it not be a better task for us to include some time to educate the strife-eager public on the folly of activism against what did not occur, rather than using this publication medium to discus serious religious matters? Or perhaps to redirect their energy to more pressing crimes of corruption, mal-governance, cabalism, youth unemployment, or maybe social ills like fornication, adultery, prostitution and female genital mutilation or husbands killing wives? Pressing and actual and not made-up events?

Do not get this wrong, we are all happy to discuss matters of religion and culture in public fora, but these should be done based on true facts, in the right manner, and not tagging on errors, and misguided steps, with irresponsible harassment and noise. It may be necessary that the northern parts of Nigeria and Nigeria's Muslims sit down and review the age they wish to get married in consideration of the current state of poverty and available health services, but again I ask you, have they violated any Nigerian law? If they have not violated any law of Nigeria (being allowed under the Nigerian constitution to marry young brides according to their Sharia law) then why have we opened up this matter and tagged along with erroneous protests while gaining cheap publicity? Should we not initiate a scholars forum among Muslims to deliberate on investigating and deciding on how to address the issues of early marriage if they do exist and for the reasons that they do? Should we not focus our energy in writing on ensuring women married or to be married, have full access to marriage counsel, legal representation in events of domestic violence, forced marriages or desires to divorce? Or perhaps in promoting the prophet of Islam's other culture of marrying widows?

Not that it compares in any way, but celebrity director Polanski who drugged and raped a 13 year old, and then fled justice to France, did we all not witness how the French government, and Mitterrand himself absolved him of his heinous crime? And the likes of media like CNN and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner wished him freedom, with Hollywood celebrities like Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, David Lynch, John Landis, Harvey Weinstein and even females like Monica Bellucci, Asia Argento, Debra Winger and Whoopi Goldberg defending him?

And as much as we have over thrashed the poverty related, social and health complications of northern Muslim practices, have we ever considered the comparative advantages of the early marriage practiced as against the fornication that happens in parts of Nigeria where marriage is delayed? When last did we look at the HIV and STD distribution map of Nigeria? Abortion-murder? Or the domestic violence map of Nigeria? The fertility rate distribution? The frigidity rate? Even cancer rate? Do we think a discussion of such a prevalent cultural event that affects millions is as simple as some high blood pressure and misconstrued activism? While some of us did our best and created movements and wrote about Boko haram, about piracy, where were the activists? Where were the rallies against terror, against kidnapping, against oil theft? Or as Senator Yarima said, why do we not hunt the legislators who fill bus loads of secondary school pupils for orgies?

I am one person who believes strongly in obeying the law, and if a person does obey the law, then I am vehemently against the oppression and intimidation of such person, be it by protest or by writing, usually by people who are more immoral and criminal then the one they accuse. Nigeria is not the only country that has young marriages, in neighboring Mali, 70% of marriages are below 18 years. Yet Mali does not have the epidemic of VVF's Nigeria--the highest in the world-- has. Does this not suggest that this health crises has more to do with the Nigerian factor?

Did we first email Senator Yarima as I believe Islam commands, and suggest a Muslim meeting on this topic? Will intimidation address this problem? I have earlier written an extensive article on 'child marriage,' "My Thoughts on 'Child' Marriage". Reading this may open you up to other considerations and how this subject is not just that simple. I am sure you know that early marriages do not cause VVF's? I am sure you also know that the young brides in the north are not the reason for the poverty in the land-locked north? I'll probably blame the child abandonment, almajiri system more, with 10 million abandoned children. So why are we playing a tune of provocateurs?

Nigeria's Muslims can rightly come together and as under the tenets of Islam, make a decision in regards to this issue of young marriages. Don't you believe that? Many countries have done so as you rightly pointed out. But this is a choice and not what a million placards or articles can bring about, and I am sure you appreciate this, because as I have said earlier, Nigeria's Muslims have neither violated any law of God or man in this issue. Should we not go through the right channel, respecting our countrymen and their wives?

You as many others repeat, 18, 18, 18--when a child becomes an adult, at 18. I am sure you know that it was the United Nations Child Summit Declaration of 1990, and the Child Rights Act 2003 that decided that 18 and not a day before or a day after, makes you an adult. Doesn't this make you laugh? So a 17 year old girl, 8 months from her 18th birthday, in your view should not be allowed the right to make decisions till the hour of the day of her solar calendar 18th birthday? Is this logical, rational or religious thinking? Do you or Nigeria also accept the UN stipulations for us on sodomy? You see, selecting 18 was a decision, possibly after a vote, possibly well intended, but it was not a revelation from God.

In conclusion, we are all free to our opinions and we can all make this a gainful discussion, but it is important that we do not associate this conversation with Senator Ahmad Sani Yarima and the senate proceedings, because it has absolutely nothing to do with him, or the proceedings of that day, which were not about child marriage. Section 29 on citizenship revocation rights, was written in our constituion before Yerima became a senator.

Today there are over 6 million young brides by my estimation in the north, neither me nor you is going to decide here whether these 6 million women and mothers should be allowed the right of choice or not. Not here, not now and not related to this crises with all the errors, falsehoods and fabrications. Nigeria already decided to give them the right of choice, let us respect our constitution and respect people's right of choice without deprivation or fear of intimidation. There are times times and needs to revolt and there are times to discuss. Sigh at Nigeria and its wrong revolutions.

Mrs. Maryam Uwais, your brilliance and blessings are urgently needed on the right side of activism and writing for social justice. We can't wait to read from you again.

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