suredammy:
Mind you this is not an argument, just civilized dialogue. Yeah, the religion am talking about is Islam and implore you and everyone to find out about the true Islam. I am appalled how little non-muslims know about Islam. I just want us all to open our minds, learn about what Islam entails and Then we can all decide and make an educated choice. May God guide all aright.

Since u ve said it...let me now tackle you.

we blame the coza pastor for having an affair with someone oda dan his ONE wife and here u sit on telling me that islam is better. is it becos islam allows ur imams to marry as many wives as they wish?

The most violent religion and countries are islamic countries.

Yet you condemn xtianity becos of one pastor that went astray?

What about pastors that changed the world like Martin luther?

Bros. Its actually even disrespectful of you to come on this thread and assault xtianity. i dont imagine i would do that on a muslim thread.

Even the Koran says obey Isa(Jesus).

If you did obey him like the koran said, you might actually be saved.


I advise you to go read more bout Jesus. follow his teachings. thats where your salvation lies.

suredammy: The alternative is Islam and I implore you to find about about the true Islam, It is all around us and so much in the news but have we taken the time to find out about what it really encompass.

Congrats my Dear but I have a personal relationship with the Creator. I need no middle man or building.to direct me, but thank you for your message though

suredammy:
Mind you this is not an argument, just civilized dialogue. Yeah, the religion am talking about is Islam and implore you and everyone to find out about the true Islam. I am appalled how little non-muslims know about Islam. I just want us all to open our minds, learn about what Islam entails and Then we can all decide and make an educated choice. May God guide all aright.

So why can't you open your mind and find out about "true" christianity? Believe it or not you just labelled yourself as a bigot believing your Islam is better than other religion.

The Bible says: If you fall in the day of adversity then your strength is small.
Proverbs 24:10

Its only God dt sees everything ,u re not qualified 2 judge any1.am not a COZA member ,infact don't even associate myself with them at-all.My point is dt Satan is at work,and doesn't respect ur position or status.My prayer is dt God shd ve mercy on me and everyone of u dt stands as critics.

joseph1832:
So why can't you open your mind and find out about "true" christianity? Believe it or not you just labelled yourself as a bigot believing your Islam is better than other religion.

I wont stoop low your level and start calling you names. I have opened my mind and examined christainity thoroughly before deciding the Islam is the one true religion in the sight of God. I am not sure the same can be said of you. Why do I want you to accept Islam? Maybe it is because I have seen the truth and it hurts when I see people following other than the truth. Just read about Islam before making uninformed choices and judgement. May God, who has not partner or associates, guide us all aright.

sucess001:

Since u ve said it...let me now tackle you.

we blame the coza pastor for having an affair with someone oda dan his ONE wife and here u sit on telling me that islam is better. is it becos islam allows ur imams to marry as many wives as they wish?

The most violent religion and countries are islamic countries.

Yet you condemn xtianity becos of one pastor that went astray?

What about pastors that changed the world like Martin luther?

Bros. Its actually even disrespectful of you to come on this thread and assault xtianity. i dont imagine i would do that on a muslim thread.

Even the Koran says obey Isa(Jesus).

If you did obey him like the koran said, you might actually be saved.


I advise you to go read more bout Jesus. follow his teachings. thats where your salvation lies.

I will reply to the issues you have raised.

First, I am not condemning Christianity becos of One Mans indiscretionS. What I am condemning is the fact that christainity is replete with so many Men of God who claims to be spiritual and have understanding of Gods way, committing atrocious sins and still having the audacity to preach, lead and guide people. Which kind of guidance can these Men provide. Are the hearts of these men not empty? Are they not just professing what does not exist and deceiving their followers that they possess higher spiritual understanding.? A spiritual understanding the followers can never attain becos it is not in existence.
Yes, Islam allow men to marry more than one wife because Islam is a complete religion that understands the nature of human. Islam understands that most men will not be satisfied with only one woman. Most men have high sex drive and more sexual needs during the course of their lifetime compared to women. This any red-blooded truthful man will attest to. So, instead of placing men in bondage and compelling Men to fool around, commit the grave sin of adultery as evident by Pastor Biodun and other numerous examples, Islam provides a legal, sensible avenue for Men to channel their sexual energy. Only a sinful and deranged person will believe this is not better than keeping aristos, concubine, mistresses, prostitutes, harraSsing church members, your students and the list goes on. What saddens me is that most Men are hypocrites, you know what I mean.
By the way, where is it written in the Bible or was is it ever said by Jesus(Peace of Allah(God) be upon him) that a man cannot marry more than one wife? Did Abraham, who was described in the bible as the "FATHER OF FAITH", not marry more than one wife. And before you say that HAGAR was not Abrahams wife are you insinuating that the father of faith committed adultery? What about Prophets such as Solomon, David and so on. Was monogamy not infused into Christianity by the Roman empire which used to be monogamous but where Men are allowed to have numerous concubines and have easy access to prostitutes.? Please be informed and have adequate knowledge of your religion. There is not excuse for ignorance in this modern age.
I will not want this post to be too long therefore I will address the other issues you raised in my subsequent posts. I think anybody who is sincere will say amen to this prayer: MAY GOD GUIDE US ARIGHT.

suredammy: I wont stoop low your level and start calling you names. I have opened my mind and examined christainity thoroughly before deciding the Islam is the one true religion in the sight of God. I am not sure the same can be said of you. Why do I want you to accept Islam? Maybe it is because I have seen the truth and it hurts when I see people following other than the truth.
Just read about Islam before making uninformed choices and judgement. May God, who has not partner or associates, guide us all aright.

Sorry I don't share your opinion! We are bond as humans to see things differently. You saying your Islam is absolute displays the fact that you are one you won't mind to shove his opinion down peoples throats.
For you Islam might be the way for me it isn't! In fact it's far from it!

Next time please don't show everybody just how opinionated you are.

biolabee: if he accepts yes,,, he shd go for a time in the wilderness to seek redemption

he shd not be on the pulpit for a season... remember nebuchadnezzer n wale oke

Then Jesus should have killed judas or peter that betrayed him then
you do not have any right to determine who should or should not be on the altar

am a christian and i understand the mercy of God and his unconditional love
just to let you know this man might have confessed to God and his wife immediately after the act and God has forgiven and cleansed this man. which is what ese should have done
cos if the whole world applauds her and she is being condemned by the Almighty, then am sorry for her

how come her guilt surfaced after some yrs ? why not the same week, month or year of commiting the sin?

p.s: am not a coza member nor do i support adultery but i know and have experienced God's divine mercy and unconditional love even when everyone turned their back on me!

I am no one and do not claim to know anything but what the bible says in 1 cor 5: 1 - 5 is when a brother sins sexually

 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh,[a] so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

Niv version.

He should be put away for a time to find redemption

Don't forget it is required of a bishop to be holy - higher standard than mere mortals like me

I will not judge the man but the clergy have forgotten the high standards of yea and nay and are political creatures

Remember 3 years ago when they went to pray for yar adua

is he alive? some one coughed, our eyes were closed etc bla bla bla .

They need to step up in these trying times


I am a sinner and crave for grace daily - copyright davidylan

May His mercy continually be with us

modupsie:

Then Jesus should have killed judas or peter that betrayed him then
you do not have any right to determine who should or should not be on the altar

am a christian and i understand the mercy of God and his unconditional love
just to let you know this man might have confessed to God and his wife immediately after the act and God has forgiven and cleansed this man. which is what ese should have done
cos if the whole world applauds her and she is being condemned by the Almighty, then am sorry for her

how come her guilt surfaced after some yrs ? why not the same week, month or year of commiting the sin?

p.s: am not a coza member nor do i support adultery but i know and have experienced God's divine mercy and unconditional love even when everyone turned their back on me!

Pataki: I remember when Odulele in London was accused of handling a child, his church kept mute about it for weeks. Kept making church members believe Odulele was on vacation till the horrible news became public.

It beholds on this COZA thingy to come out and say openly that their pastor is not involved in screwing a church member. Hiding behind glorious words does not remove the blemish that the body of Christ is being tainted with, by this irritating allegation.

At least Odulele had the guts and maturity to put his hands up, confess, apologise to his congregation, ask god for forgiveness and step down from the pulpit to seek help for his sins and weakness.

But this loverboy pastor just dey do Maradona. Did you f**k Ese Walters? Yes or No?
All these tweets of scriptures is just dancing around the issue. If he like he can quote Genesis to revelations on twiter, the question still stands: Did u f**k Ese Walters? Yes or No? Simples!

Idi-Amin:


At least Odulele had the guts and maturity to put his hands up, confess, apologise to his congregation, ask god for forgiveness and step down from the pulpit to seek help for his sins and weakness.

But this loverboy pastor just dey do Maradona. Did you f**k Ese Walters? Yes or No?
All these tweets of scriptures is just dancing around the issue. If he like he can quote Genesis to revelations on twiter, the question still stands: Did u f**k Ese Walters? Yes or No? Simples!

I believe he did shag the girl, he's just dribbling around with scriptures for fear that if he denies it she might come out with mind buggling evidence.

suredammy: I will reply to the issues you have raised.

First, I am not condemning Christianity becos of One Mans indiscretionS. What I am condemning is the fact that christainity is replete with so many Men of God who claims to be spiritual and have understanding of Gods way, committing atrocious sins and still having the audacity to preach, lead and guide people. Which kind of guidance can these Men provide. Are the hearts of these men not empty? Are they not just professing what does not exist and deceiving their followers that they possess higher spiritual understanding.? A spiritual understanding the followers can never attain becos it is not in existence.
Yes, Islam allow men to marry more than one wife because Islam is a complete religion that understands the nature of human. Islam understands that most men will not be satisfied with only one woman. Most men have high sex drive and more sexual needs during the course of their lifetime compared to women. This any red-blooded truthful man will attest to. So, instead of placing men in bondage and compelling Men to fool around, commit the grave sin of adultery as evident by Pastor Biodun and other numerous examples, Islam provides a legal, sensible avenue for Men to channel their sexual energy. Only a sinful and deranged person will believe this is not better than keeping aristos, concubine, mistresses, prostitutes, harraSsing church members, your students and the list goes on. What saddens me is that most Men are hypocrites, you know what I mean.
By the way, where is it written in the Bible or was is it ever said by Jesus(Peace of Allah(God) be upon him) that a man cannot marry more than one wife? Did Abraham, who was described in the bible as the "FATHER OF FAITH", not marry more than one wife. And before you say that HAGAR was not Abrahams wife are you insinuating that the father of faith committed adultery? What about Prophets such as Solomon, David and so on. Was monogamy not infused into Christianity by the Roman empire which used to be monogamous but where Men are allowed to have numerous concubines and have easy access to prostitutes.? Please be informed and have adequate knowledge of your religion. There is not excuse for ignorance in this modern age.
I will not want this post to be too long therefore I will address the other issues you raised in my subsequent posts. I think anybody who is sincere will say amen to this prayer: MAY GOD GUIDE US ARIGHT.

Guy,

With due respect, you should know better than arguing the Bible with Christians.

You are ignorant of the issues you discussing and i dont see the wisdom in joining issues with you.

Perhaps you may want to aver your mind to the fact Christianity came before Islam and any modification ( which you think makles the religion 'better' or 'complete') may have been created by man to suit their convenient purpose.

If you had any concern for your afterlife destiny. i wud advise you to go and read the Bible d even the Koran's teachings on Isa....not with a fixed mind but a mind will to know...

Jesus is the only way. Dont say you were not told.

Idi-Amin:


At least Odulele had the guts and maturity to put his hands up, confess, apologise to his congregation, ask god for forgiveness and step down from the pulpit to seek help for his sins and weakness.

But this loverboy pastor just dey do Maradona. Did you f**k Ese Walters? Yes or No?
All these tweets of scriptures is just dancing around the issue. If he like he can quote Genesis to revelations on twiter, the question still stands: Did u f**k Ese Walters? Yes or No? Simples!

odulele only confessed as a plea bargain with the police to save himself from a longer sentence, please do not ascribe and kind of bravery to him he is a coward and a paedophile! Shameless fool! It is only stupid Nigerian fanatics that will welcome the Confesssed child molester! I have said it let them donate their children to him for his special needs! Rubbish!! Nigerians are shameless ignorant zombie's.

Please, has anyone heard of the robust reply? This man is such a shameless *diot.