biomedixexcel:
Use your telescope

0key: Some people don't understand what it means to b a consultant. A medical consultant is a doctor that specializes in a particular area of medicine or surgery. That is why u have neurologist, cardiologist, urologist, cardothoraxic surgeon, orthopaedic surgeon, ophthalmologist etc. These specialists have different roles they play in teaching hospitals and FMCs, and they don't encroach on one another's field. So, d reason for doctors to b consultants is not disputed. Coming over to health workers who are clamouring to b consultants, are they going to perform the same work or their work is going to b divided. For eg, in pharmacy department, if they have consultants, what would b their job description? Are they all going to perform the same function (i.e. compounding and dispensing of drugs) or is there any special thing one consultant is going to do different from another one?
Again what are the areas they are to specialize and the scope of these areas?

A doctor is the head of medical cos of its centralised knowledge he possesses which is not sufficient in other health fields. For instance, a doctor has a broad knowledge about laboratory, pharmacy and patient's care coupled with his own work. He supervises how things should b done to achieve total cure & improvements in quality of life. Hence, their role is a centralised and unifying one.

Proper understanding of d above will go a long way to curb unnecessary tensions in healthcare sector.

dapachez: What is this one saying? Do you know the reasons for the strike? Get your facts right before coming on social media to display whatever it is you have done here.who said that health workers want to head the health sector(they don't have the balls to make such demands) they have some entitlements that needs to be sorted out and also the issue of the scrapping of level 10 that was resolved by the industrial court but has not been implemented amongst many other issues. Do you think doctors can run the hospitals alone?

princenonny: you 'wise' one shud also go and get ur own facts right. Their primary agitation is to head health institutions. The scrapping of level 10 is just a minor issue. Most of them wanted to b drs bt they cudnt so dey nw beef drs to the extent of goin on a pointless strike. And by d way drs can run the hosp alone. With the purchase of autoanalysers in most teitiary instutions, d labs ppl wud go out of wrk. Then contract porters to private companies den for d nurses....dressing wounds and givin tabs is nt a big deal. We want u guys to continue d strike cos in med skl we hv been trained to overcome any challenge!!!! Go back n strike...we dnt need u

Ochek:

Another ignoramus on the matter!
Take nursing for example, them ve got different areas of specialty too. So ve u got to say about that kiddo?

phantom: idiotic post....you failed out of medicine and ended up in med lab science and you now want to eat the same salary with doctors.you want to be consultants so that you and the consultant doctor go dey argue over patients.....olodo.....lol.go back to school and pass 2nd MB if to answer doctor dey sweet you.clown!

Babalegba: Barbarian doctors in a barbaric society, showing almost complete disregard for the well-being of patients.

Ochek:

Why small pikins them full this thread ma? Imagine what this one is saying (we don't need u)?

0key:

If u want to reason with me, do it politely. Any insult from u, I'll ignore u.

The role of the nurses is to assist the doctors. In fact, the nucleus of any hospital comprises the doctors and d nurses. The job of the nurse is not to TREAT patients but to care for the patients on the wards. They take vital signs, give oral and IM drugs, do minor dressings and ensure the beds and the wards are organised. Giving of drugs and doing minor dressing are done based on doctor's instructions. In other words, they don't medical decisions and involve in handling of complicated and life threatening issues. That is the job of d doctors. The role of a nurse is a subset of the role of doctors. A nurses who chooses to work in a cardiology department is not going work alone but under a cardiologist. She is not going to make any decision but instead take instruction from the doctor in-charge. If they wish to become consultants, no problem so long they will start rubbing shoulders with the medical consultant.
Come to think of it, nurses work for 2 weeks - 2.5weeks in a month. Do u consider their work stressful?

princenonny: you 'wise' one shud also go and get ur own facts right. Their primary agitation is to head health institutions. The scrapping of level 10 is just a minor issue. Most of them wanted to b drs bt they cudnt so dey nw beef drs to the extent of goin on a pointless strike. And by d way drs can run the hosp alone. With the purchase of autoanalysers in most teitiary instutions, d labs ppl wud go out of wrk. Then contract porters to private companies den for d nurses....dressing wounds and givin tabs is nt a big deal. We want u guys to continue d strike cos in med skl we hv been trained to overcome any challenge!!!! Go band n strike...we dnt need u

Ochek:

Another ignoramus on the matter!
Take nursing for example, them ve got different areas of specialty too. So ve u got to say about that kiddo?

princenonny: obviously u r a med lab scientist or a porter...I did nt mince words. We did pathology and pharmacology as part of our traning to b drs. WE DNT NEED YOU. Keep up wit ur strike

Babalegba: . Apes display more empathy than many Nigerian doctors. I was abroad for over twenty years so I know how doctors are supposed to behave. Since I came back I have seen doctors embark on a particularly horrific strike that led to the death of many hapless poor nigerians . The strike was over pay and I was horrified, it led me to ponder if nigerians have not been misclassified as homo sapiens. You can call me any name you like but I assure you that many nigerian doctors will have their rewards on earth.

0key:

If u want to reason with me, do it politely. Any insult from u, I'll ignore u.

The role of the nurses is to assist the doctors. In fact, the nucleus of any hospital comprises the doctors and d nurses. The job of the nurse is not to TREAT patients but to care for the patients on the wards. They take vital signs, give oral and IM drugs, do minor dressings and ensure the beds and the wards are organised. Giving of drugs and doing minor dressing are done based on doctor's instructions. In other words, they don't make medical decisions and involve in handling of complicated and life threatening issues. That is the job of d doctors. The role of a nurse is a subset of the role of doctors. A nurse who chooses to work in a cardiology department is not going work alone but under a cardiologist. She is not going to make any decision but instead take instruction from the doctor in-charge. If they wish to become consultants, no problem so long they will not start rubbing shoulders with the medical consultant.
Come to think of it, nurses work for 2 weeks - 2.5weeks in a month. Do u consider their work stressful?

Ochek:

Slowpoke? Hahahahah.
I bet the joke is on u dude. You can surf the net yet u remain ignorant on the matter as much as posting false information about a profession u know lil or nothing about.
If u happen to be a doctor then I am sure u must be one of those rude guys parading the hospital corridors with steths over ur neck. I don't need to be a nurse to know what I am saying.

BTW, have u heard of a nurse practisional before? oh!! I bet u don't.

0key:

If u want to reason with me, do it politely. Any insult from u, I'll ignore u.

The role of the nurses is to assist the doctors. In fact, the nucleus of any hospital comprises the doctors and d nurses. The job of the nurse is not to TREAT patients but to care for the patients on the wards. They take vital signs, give oral and IM drugs, do minor dressings and ensure the beds and the wards are organised. Giving of drugs and doing minor dressing are done based on doctor's instructions. In other words, they don't make medical decisions and involve in handling of complicated and life threatening issues. That is the job of d doctors. The role of a nurse is a subset of the role of doctors. A nurse who chooses to work in a cardiology department is not going work alone but under a cardiologist. She is not going to make any decision but instead take instruction from the doctor in-charge. If they wish to become consultants, no problem so long as they will not start rubbing shoulders with the medical consultant.
Come to think of it, nurses work for 2 weeks - 2.5weeks in a month. Do u consider their work stressful?

princenonny: mr nurse I dnt care wat u call division in nursing....d fact remains notin wud ever make u guys consultants. Do u tink consultancy is easy. U read n research year in year out. That's y its looks like dey knw all cos they read n research daily. Do nursees research? Do nurses hv a residency program And yet u jst wnt them to dash u consultants jst like that. Pls go n buy jamb form and enter medicine and surgery. Its neva too late. Some nurses I knw r in final year medicine nw. If they can do it, you too can do it

phnibeogu:



Even the doctors in this our country are almost illiterates... well let me explain.. even if u are a consultant.. without management training or experience.. u should not be in administration...if a doctor is a certified administrator or manager, then good, he could, but otherwise... hey docs should leave the job of managment to professionals.. or does this daft dude who wrote this think its obtainable elsewhere in the world or u think nigeria is just a doctors world?

phantom: interesting you saw how they behave but conveniently forgot to ask how much they were being paid....
if i tell you what the doctor earns in the US,you will stroke out...
those arer serious countries who know what they have.ideally should you hear the doctors agitate?we only agitate in this country because it is a failed state.
you want me to earn 200000 naira and not complain.a salary that some people spend on their dogs every month.

phantom:
i agree completely with you.the pharmacists and nurses who also want to head hospitals,what hospital management training do they have?
yes administration should be left to any body with HOSPITAL MANAGEMENT TRAINING.
**BY THE WAY TAKE IT EASY WITH THE INSULTS**

biomedixexcel: My main joy is that some doctors keep insulting online but calls me chief in the lab cos i av helped so much of them understand what they didnt know, i love the doctors for one thing, the this is that they quickly respect you when they discover that you understand well what you are doing and you can explain the theory and application of each test and result i produce. My advice to all other professionals is to understand your area of specialization well so when the doctors bring their problems of superiority, you will be able to sit them down and lecture them what they dont understand about your work!
I have become friends to many doctors by doing this.....
I love my profession and i have no regret!
Biomedical science......."the bedrock of modern medicine" THIS IS OUR PRIDE

biomedixexcel: My main joy is that some doctors keep insulting online but calls me chief in the lab cos i av helped so much of them understand what they didnt know, i love the doctors for one thing, the this is that they quickly respect you when they discover that you understand well what you are doing and you can explain the theory and application of each test and result i produce. My advice to all other professionals is to understand your area of specialization well so when the doctors bring their problems of superiority, you will be able to sit them down and lecture them what they dont understand about your work!
I have become friends to many doctors by doing this.....
I love my profession and i have no regret!
Biomedical science......."the bedrock of modern medicine" THIS IS OUR PRIDE

Ochek:

Hahahahah! Thanks for IDing me a nurse.

Lemme ask u, what re the qualifications of reading MBBS in our university? What re the qualifications of reading nursing in our university ? All 5 credits. Hey,don't even think about telling me of jamb scores cos thats only a way to check the excessive demand. Plus I know ppl who went in with low scores (not cos them were less intelligent)

Ochek:

thanks Mr. However, your accertions may not be completely correct. Like I did ask some dude earlier, maybe u might wanna Google up more about the nursing profession so u don't base ur constructive arguments on the ill norms u know about them back home.

That said, do u know about the history and origins of medicine in Nigeria? Do u kno it actually began from Yaba Tech? we still got those class of doctors in our health sector. Though few now.

QEFRAN6: Hmmmmm! It baffles me somuch wen dese physicians brag abt them being d all in all were as they r nothg if u take a close look at them,esp the new ones in the system today...u all knw that u cannot and will never be able to operate alone without the help of other health profefesionals...all u guys do is assumption and without the med.lab sct who corrects and put u on the right tract thro a test,and the pharmacist too corrects the nonsense u scrible down in the name of prescription,while the nurses takes absolute care of the patients in the wards...only God knws how many ppl ul b killing per day.All u guys do in the hospital as far as I'm concern is pen down the patients data and history of which any secretary can do that perfectly...why on earth do u want to be were u shdnt?...its time u guys get another parking lott as uv occupied other ppls space for so long and the owners are back and ready to occupy their space...if u guys can operate alone,why on earth did u discharge patients from the wards and refuse admitting new ones while the other health workers went on strike...y can't u guys accept the truth for once?

biomedixexcel: Medical Workers Strike Suspension: If I Were
NMA By Fejiro Oliver
Posted by Editor
A choir is made up of many voices, including
yours and mine. If one by one all go silent then
all that will be left are the soloists. Don’t let a
loud few determine the nature of the sound. It
makes for poor harmony and diminishes the
song.” – Vera Nazarian
Generations change their style of life; they dictate
how their future and that of their unborn should be.
They do so not at the peril of others, but for the
entire benefit of mankind. Their struggle begins from
the womb and come to fruition when they decide to
take their destinies in their hands. Still yet, they are
sympathetic to the cause of their current generation
even as they fight for a tomorrow they may never
see. But nothing is more paradisic (my own word for
living in paradise) than see their struggles,
agitations and tussle for survival come to fruition
while the breath of life still run in them.
The above aptly capture the delicate health system
and their medical workers who despite their
agitations remembered their Hippocratic Oath and
graciously, but with a clause suspended the strike.
At exactly 12.15am Wednesday, a top official of the
union sent me a text that the strike has just been
suspended. Before then, a government top official
has hinted me that they are meeting and the
minister who is currently under fire is ready to climb
down from his high horse and accede to JOHESU
requests. In the meeting which had the minister of
health were also present; the Head of civil service of
the federation and National President of TUC was an
agreement reached that the strike will be suspended
for four weeks, with an implementation committee
headed by the Head of civil service to implement the
ruling of the National Industrial court and the
minister not to go on appeal.
The true mark of repentance is humility, which Mr.
Onyebuchi Chukwu (who is likely to see me as an
antagonist, but I see him as a friend in progress)
may have shown by finally seeing reasons for the
just action of JOHESU. I do not believe he’s unjustly
insensitive, but the NMA constituency which he
belongs seems to affect his reasoning. He has
decided to right the wrongs of Late Ransome Kuti
and we bid posterity to begin his judgment from
there. Now that the strike has been called off; what
would I have done if I were the NMA national
president?
The strike once again has proved that the doctors of
medicine(MD) cannot work as health practitioners
without the other doctors and medical practitioners’,
thus proving that all services rendered by these
medical personnel are indispensible. Were I the
NMA chairman, I would humbly call my partners in
JOHESU and NUPTAM; apologize for any
inflammatory statements that might have angered
their members to pour out their venomous wrath on
Nigerians, which led to increased number of death
since their services were withdrawn. I will borrow a
leaf from the NMA Gombe State chairman, Dr Jauro
Degri statement, acknowledging their inability to
take the place of the other medical officers, thus,
“we want to inform the public that whatever service
we cannot render as a result of the strike, we can
always advise and direct them to where they can be
attended to”. It doesn’t cost a dime to be modest and
plead that the ultimate end for all medical workers is
what Dr Jauro said, “We are all trained to save lives
and these lives, we must save, because we know
that one day, we must account for this work that we
are doing,”. This is what the NMA should do
preaching unity and collaboration among
themselves.
Were I the NMA, I will team up with NUPTAM to
form a union that will take the government on the
decayed health facilities in the country, failed health
issues as their ASUU counterpart are demanding for
improvement in the education industry. Imagine a
union such as this going on strike! You can bet on it
that their industrial action will not last for more than
48 hours before the government of the day consent
to their reasonable request(s). They will get the
optimum support of all Nigerians, as their being
indispensible will be proved beyond reasonable
doubt. I will reflect on the NMA strike in Lagos State
where Governor Babatunde Fashola relegated them
to an inconsequential association, despite the weeks
it lingered, with works going on fully in Lagos
hospitals. A union such has this would have made
Fashola literary creeping and begging for it to be
called off. If I were NMA; I would advocate for this
common union in the spirit of brotherhood and
comradeship.
Had I been the NMA, I will truly seek the advice of
the Medical Laboratory scientist who is more
grounded in their field and thus better, than a
pathologist. I will see their services as indispensible,
taking a big lesson from the MD in UBTH who tried
to do the work of the striking Medical scientist and
ended up spilling 18 PCV out of 24 PCV, a clear case
of inability.
How about the case of the Doctors of physiotherapy
(DPT)? The Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria
(MDCN) will join the Medical Rehabilitation Therapy
Board (MRTB) to ask the government to provide
enough equipment to the various hospitals, to enable
the few graduates they produce do their internship
in any hospital in the country. Next, we will write to
Nigerian Universities Commission to increase the
number of universities studying this course (they are
less than 15), while we do all it takes to meet the
requirements to setting up such department. A new
branch of medicine it is but indispensible. Nigerian
former military president, Babangida can testify to
it, when he went for a broken leg treatment abroad,
as well as former vice president, Atiku Abubakar
who have been treated by name. Do we need to
mention the governor of Taraba State who needs it
to come back to his memory, working alongside a
neuro specialist?
To the nurses, who are the de facto head of the
wards, will I pledge my union support, to respect
and not claim to be their boss when actually we are
not, either by practice or training, except by age or
grade level. We at the NMA executive will set up a
committee to look into the unwritten fracas
happening between the doctors of medicine and
nursing graduates; then proffer a solution once and
for all, knowing that the common stake we share is
to make a patient get well. We will go the length of
meeting the radiography board to iron out our
differences while reaching a synergy that not only
will they exercise their authority as the modern eyes
of in-depth medical practice in their private
hospitals, but also government hospitals.
We understand that we don’t know anything about
diet, and thus should not feign to be dieticians. As
the NMA, we accept that we are only a group of
specialist in a particular field, who even in our
personal lives seek the advice of the dieticians and
follow strictly the diet they laid down for us. This
dietary department, if true confession is made is a no
go area, and thus we won’t and should not deceive
patients that it’s within our jurisdiction to give right
solution. Succinctly put; we are only an allied
profession to it just as we are to others and they are
to us.
To undermine the Pharmacists who are called
Doctor of Pharmacy abroad, if I were a NMA
president is to commit career suicide, since my
patients cure begin from their doorsteps. They
manufacture the drugs which we prescribe to
whoever seeks our advice. Beside, these are group
of people who can work alone and in places outside
the hospital/clinic settings without needing my
services or educational input. I will seek to mend
fence with them if there were any.
Why should we in the medical sector struggle for
leadership when that is actually not the problem
with our hospitals. In the beginning, it was not so;
thus I will let my NMA constituency know that there
are no superior in this field of medicine, but equals
working toward the same purpose, to achieve a
common goal- improved and better health care for
us with good monetary value accrued to our
services. The debate for harmony is a welcome
development, so will I see it, after all, we truly
harmonize in the discharge of our duties to the
patients. The mistake/failure on the part of a medical
lab scientist or radiographer renders useless all the
treatment of a doctor of medicine or doctor of
physiotherapy. The careless action of a nurse will
see a patient to the grave and the list goes on. I will
gladly follow the words of Tony Hillarman,
“Everything is connected. The wing of the corn
beetle affects the direction of the wind, the way the
sand drifts, the way the light reflects into the eye of
man beholding his reality. All is part of totality, and
in this totality man finds his hozro, his way of
walking in harmony, with beauty all around him”.
This is the harmony that we truly need which should
reflect in the leadership. We agree that anyone can
head, but better if a hospital administrator is made
the head while we all focus on our clinical duties,
and the commissioner or minister of health being
from any competent medical practitioner.
Oh if I were! I will not see Fejiro Oliver as a witch
hunting journalist, who was paid to demystify the
medical profession, but a reporter who was simply
doing his job to see that the health sector is truly
reformed and a better working relationship among
all the practitioners. Yes, I will look at all he has said
critically, analyzed it and with modesty kick off to
work.
I really wish were!
Nothing gladdens a reporter’s heart than seeing his
genuine cry heard in the interest of the nation. We at
secretsreporters saw a medical strike genocide
coming had the state and local government hospitals
joined today, that the strike was eventually
suspended. We saw our grandparents in the village
raining curses on the government for denying them
access to these medical workers, most especially the
ladies who love to visit a hospital and love being
attended to by the ladies in white. While they label
our report as being too frank; we just could not be
too mild with the lives of Nigerians. What they fail to
understand is that should NMA go on a just strike
tomorrow, we will still be here to ring the bells in
support of them. Oh yes, we will!
We‘ve not backed out of the call to relieve the
minister of health of his ministerial position, but it’s
never late for him to make amend, go back to the
drawing table and retrace his steps. The strike has
only been suspended, not called off; hence let the
agreement and consensus to these deserving
requests be granted. This is no call of support for
JOHESU but for the general good of the citizenry
who will die next after the expiration of four weeks
with the agreement not honored. Even the lands
have rejected their corpse; Mr. President, do not
force them on the land.
For now, JOHESU/NUPTAM and the patients in the
hospitals that will now see their doctors, Nurses,
Medical lab scientist, Imaging Scientist, Dieticians
etc back to work treat them, can now pop
champagne.
These little things matter…