The bible said 'You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free'
I pity and pity those who loves twisting d bible for their own selfish interest. The bible also said woe to those who mislead others coz it wud have been better for them if they are thrown into the sea with a stone tied to their neck.

God commanded us to give tithes. Malachi 3 : 8 -12
Pls tithes and offering aint d same.
plus if you aint covinient wt that why dnt u take ya peace and stop misleading others

Tuntheycr7:
God commanded us to give tithes. Malachi 3 : 8 -12
Pls tithes and offering aint d same.
plus if you aint covinient wt that why dnt u take ya peace and stop misleading others

if God was talking to u in mal3:10, y don't u follow tro n also obey mal4:4?

Kunle....where art thou?


Your cry babies are here showing their stench of defeat by irrelevant posts.


Emm lemme go and watch Man Utd

christemmbassey: if God was talking to u in mal3:10, y don't u follow tro n also obey mal4:4?

Thought I answered you on the other page?

Gombs:

Show me where it said in malachi 3v8-10 where God said his instructions there are for the livetical priesthood or the Law of Moses.

Go study Malachi 3
At first it talked of a promised messenger in verse 1

In verse 2 to 5 it talked about a time that will come....a day of Change

It had nothing to do with the law of moses or the levitical priesthood....
It spoke of the Messiah to come and the day of Change.

Hallelujah!

Then read d rest of Malachi 3...it had nothing to do with the Law of Moses



Mal 4v4 is not associated with the tithe in the order of Melchizedek why bring up irrelevancies in order to cover up?

See d link
www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/23#18598674


Leave him alone o!

Gombs:

Thought I answered you on the other page?




See d link
www.nairaland.com/1456343/tithes-offerings-eternal-principles/23#18598674


Leave him alone o!

u did nt answer anything, what is ur excuse of nt obeying mal4:4 ?

christemmbassey: u did nt answer anything, what is ur excuse of nt obeying mal4:4 ?

Cos it is abt obeying Moses' law which I'm no longer under

Gombs:

Cos it is abt obeying Moses' law which I'm no longer under

so mal3:10 was b4 d law, u see y we call u ppl fraudsters/scammers/profane/filthy lucre hunters etc, u've been unmask n i must confess, U R D MOST DISHONES TITHE COLLECTOR IN NL! its a pity. I'm done with u. Just repent.

christemmbassey: so mal3:10 was b4 d law, u see y we call u ppl fraudsters/scammers/profane/filthy lucre hunters etc, u've been unmask n i must confess, U R D MOST DISHONES TITHE COLLECTOR IN NL! its a pity. I'm done with u. Just repent.

Are you blind? Or you chose not to see? Or you just wanna argue?

How many time would I have to explain Mal 3 to you?

Gombs:
Show me where it said in malachi 3v8-10 where
God said his instructions there are for the livetical
priesthood or the Law of Moses.

Go study Malachi 3
At first it talked of a promised messenger in verse
1

In verse 2 to 5 it talked about a time that will
come....a day of Change

It had nothing to do with the law of moses or the
levitical priesthood....

It spoke of the Messiah to come and the day of
Change.

Hallelujah!

Then read d rest of Malachi 3...it had nothing to
do with the Law of Moses

Mal 4v4 is not associated with the tithe in the
order of Melchizedek why bring up irrelevancies in
order to cover up?

Pastor Kun:

I have two questions for you:

1. How does God define his tithes? (Back up your answer with scripture)
2. Who was the malachi 3 passage addressed to and under what dispensation?

malachi 3 was addressed 2 d jews first nd also to the gentile nations dat will accept christ as their lord nd personal saviour. As a gentile xtian r u suppose 2 obey or disobey d ten commandment of GOD since it was directed 2 d jews ?

anibi9674: malachi 3 was addressed 2 d jews first nd also to the gentile nations dat will accept christ as their lord nd personal saviour. As a gentile xtian r u suppose 2 obey or disobey d ten commandment of GOD since it was directed 2 d jews ?

what about the sabbath day? its also a part of the 10 commandments. Do you observe it the way God told Moses and the Jews to observe it?

What about the other ordinances like a woman not going to the sanctuary when she has a discharge e.g menstruation and a man also prohibited from the sanctuary for a specific period because of seminal discharge?

What about not wearing a dress made from linen and wool together? or avoidance of planting 2 types of fruit on the same piece of land? Do you keep all these as well?

Mal 4:4
'Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which i commanded unto him in Horeb for all Isreal, with the statutes and judgements.'

Do you obey the above verse in the same Malachi from which you got Mal 3?

christemmbassey: if God was talking to u in mal3:10, y don't u follow tro n also obey mal4:4?

who said xtians dnt obey d law of moses? D law of moses says thou shall nt commit adultery. As a xtian do u still commit adultery or do u still fornicate ? Moses law says thou shall nt visit a necromancer or a fortuneteller or an astrologer or a stargazer. As a xtian do u still visit dem. If no are u nt obeying d law of moses nd also malachi 4 vs 4. Moses law says u shud pay one-tenth of ur income. Y r u nt doin it ? we r nt under d law does nt mean we shud disobey d law of moses.

idnoble135: Truly hilarious responses.
My testimony goes thus, ever since i joined NL, there have been fierce arguments.
I have read countless anti-tithe threads.
It has forced me to study and study more on the subject.
And my eyes were open to see light, and to see some salient points that i was never taught and never heard.
And now, i have confidence from the Word that tithe is God's will for us.
Thanks to all anti-tithers that forced me to study for personal discovery.
Somebody shout halleluyah!

haleluuuuuyah

DrummaBoy: My own testimony will come in form of a 'reverse'. I shared how I stopped tithing on FB and created a bit of rochus in Church. Then I went to Radio to explain that Christians should not tithe. In response my church leadership has sacked me from being a church worker and I really don't know what next is coming.

But in all, God is my helper. I will whether this storm and come even stronger in conviction. I will return to share how I stopped tithing as soon as I can.

Great thread, Kun!

una no go spoil nairaland for us the devil is a lier..... Somebody shout haleluyah

I don't pay tithe, I have never payed tithe & I don't intend paying tithe. I give to God as it pleases me.

anibi9674: who said xtians dnt obey d law of moses? D law of moses says thou shall nt commit adultery. As a xtian do u still commit adultery or do u still fornicate ? Moses law says thou shall nt visit a necromancer or a fortuneteller or an astrologer or a stargazer. As a xtian do u still visit dem. If no are u nt obeying d law of moses nd also malachi 4 vs 4. Moses law says u shud pay one-tenth of ur income. Y r u nt doin it ? we r nt under d law does nt mean we shud disobey d law of moses.

I may not be adept in the scriptures but I know enough to say your point is very weak.

As a xtian i dont do all those things you mentioned because the holy spirit leads me not to do them, not because it was written in a law.

Ok using your example.. Someone invented the "Anobis Law" in Nigeria which says do not defecate in the middle of the road... Do you defecate in the middle of the road? No? It must be because you follow the Anobis Law. Which means you should also follow the other part of the Anobis law that says you should jump in front of a speeding molue

I hope you see my point here

Pastor Kun:

Kindly show us from scriptures why you think Master Jesus requires tithes from you.

I used to have problem with tithe myself. My major concern however was; why would Jesus not teach, talk or just mention tithe if it is of higher importance? I got a great relief to my concern the day my pastor preached on Matthew 23:23 Egbé ni fun nyin, ẹnyin akọwe ati Farisi agabagebe; nitoriti ẹnyin ngbà idamẹwa minti, ati anise, ati kumini, ẹnyin si ti fi ọ̀ran ti o tobiju ninu ofin silẹ laiṣe, idajọ, ãnu, ati igbagbọ́: wọnyi li o tọ́ ti ẹnyin iba ṣe, laisi fi iyoku silẹ laiṣe."

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

I took my time in personal study of this verse of the scripture, and since then, my philosophy of tithes changed

DrummaBoy: My own testimony will come in form of a 'reverse'. I shared how I stopped tithing on FB and created a bit of rochus in Church. Then I went to Radio to explain that Christians should not tithe. In response my church leadership has sacked me from being a church worker and I really don't know what next is coming.

But in all, God is my helper. I will whether this storm and come even stronger in conviction. I will return to share how I stopped tithing as soon as I can.

Great thread, Kun!

Hahahahhahahhahha. The day I tried that at my church, almost everyone nearly had convulsion.

Pastor Kun:

Kindly show us from scriptures why you think Master Jesus requires tithes from you.

I used to have problem with tithe myself. My major convern however was; why would Jesus not teach, talk or just mention tithe if it is of higher importance? I got a great relief to my concern the the my pastor preached on Matthew 23:23 Egbé ni fun nyin, ẹnyin akọwe ati Farisi agabagebe; nitoriti ẹnyin ngbà idamẹwa minti, ati anise, ati kumini, ẹnyin si ti fi ọ̀ran ti o tobiju ninu ofin silẹ laiṣe, idajọ, ãnu, ati igbagbọ́: wọnyi li o tọ́ ti ẹnyin iba ṣe, laisi fi iyoku silẹ laiṣe."

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

I took my time in personal study of this verse of the scripture, and since then, my philosophy of tithes changed

@OP
If only you can put a third of the energy you put up fighting this useless battle into winning souls for the Kingdom, you would have become a hero in heaven.
Bro, do not waste your time, tithing is not your pass-way to heaven, its the Name of Jesus that points you in the right direction in life.
Think of this; if you tithe, you are giving to God, if you do not tithe, you are not giving to God, so who do you think will gain or lose?
I cannot stop tithing cos I love doing what the Word says.

Observe what Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. In essence, what Jesus is saying is that there are weightier matters e.g judgment, mercy etc and these should be done and not to leave the other undone. The other not to be left undone He referred to is tithing. A word is enough 4 the wise!

No matter what you say or do, the tithe collectors will do everything within their power and fight for the source of their food. What shall they eat if you take these tithes away from them? What will they drive if these tithes are paid no more? Which private jet shall they own if all refused to pay tithes? Let them collect it and choke in it. Shove it down their throats so that they shall let us rest. Let us push the tithe up their anus, so that we can have piece of mind. If I pay, I only give it since I believe my church has needs even though I know it ends up in private purses. Good Morning this morning.

Rather than tithing I give 10% of my income to less privileged and that way I feel fulfilled. Afterall, that's another way of tithing as my 10% if tithed in church would still be used to support the needy. It's not really a must for me to tithe in the church and so far so good the Creator of earth and everything of earth has always been blessing me.

Praise the Lord!

I'm not surprised at this thread. My bible clearly tells me that there shall be false prophets and false doctrines preached as some of the signs of the endtime,insomuch that even the very elect might be confused/misled. However,it advices me to watch and pray steadfastly and hold on to that(the word of God) which I have received,lest it be taken away from me. Every male child that openeth the womb of man or animal,was given to God as tithe in the old testament. Your tithe is 1/10th of your increase. When you give your tithe to God,it does not "necessarily" need to come back to you as a financial increase. God is not a money doubler. Your tithe could work for you in several ways. Paying tithe could just be the reason why you have sound health or why you're still alive. Pay your tithe to God and he will decide where,when,how and through what medium he wants to bless you. Even if you have all the money in the world,you cannot buy good health or life. The only reason I won't pay tithe is if I'm not earning a dime.

To those who say God does not exist: if only you guys can prove to me how you were created or came into existence,I'd believe you. Since I can't prove how man came into existence other than the biblical account given,I'd choose to go with my scriptures. I'd rather live my life as a fool,believing that heaven n hell is real and finding out later that they are not real,than discarding them away as pure fallacies and finding out one day(when it would be too late) that they're real.

Those who are against tithes are either antichrist or showing lack of Bible knowledge. They claim Malachi chapter 3 was not stated by Christ as it is in the Old Testament but where the Old Testament promises blessings, healing, long life and wealth, the antitithers claim it as their portion. If you choose what and where to obey in the Bible, you are antichrist. It's not just enough to believe in God because the devil also believes and trembles.

This is my testimony why I stopped tithing and also I fight against tithing as preached to Christians - It is not a Christian doctrine.

I began to study the word of God for myself and got the revelation of the truth. I didn't find any, not one single scripture where tithing was taught to the early church, rather, it was giving that was taught. The religious church mix both Old and New Covenant to cajole church people. I found the truth in Hebrew contrary to what is being preached in most churches that tithing had ended for New Testament Christians along with other rituals in the Old Testament.

I have been preaching this gospel of no more tithe for Christians but encouraging Christians to give as their capacity can bear, from their heart and also sacrificially. I have been blessed without tithing for many years and the evidence of God's blessings is on me. I have good job, I bless people who are less privileged, I drive 2013 car, I live a good life etc. I do not say all these to boast but to show the grace of God in my life that a man can be blessed without tithing and those who attach their breakthroughs in life to tithe are fallen from Grace, to them, Christ is of no effect and died for nothing.

ProPastorChris: @OP
If only you can put a third of the energy you put up fighting this useless battle into winning souls for the Kingdom, you would have become a hero in heaven.
Bro, do not waste your time, tithing is not your pass-way to heaven, its the Name of Jesus that points you in the right direction in life.
Think of this; if you tithe, you are giving to God, if you do not tithe, you are not giving to God, so who do you think will gain or lose?
I cannot stop tithing cos I love doing what the Word says.

SECONDED

ProPastorChris: @OP
If only you can put a third of the energy you put up fighting this useless battle into winning souls for the Kingdom, you would have become a hero in heaven.
Bro, do not waste your time, tithing is not your pass-way to heaven, its the Name of Jesus that points you in the right direction in life.
Think of this; if you tithe, you are giving to God, if you do not tithe, you are not giving to God, so who do you think will gain or lose?
I cannot stop tithing cos I love doing what the Word says.

PastorChris please how would God get my tithe personally, directly or otherwise. I really want to understand the term 'giving to God' because obviously I wonder how God would get my tithe. How would my tithe be taken to God? I mean just what really happened to my tithe right from the tither box?

Thanks.

anibi9674: malachi 3 was addressed 2 d jews first nd also to the gentile nations dat will accept christ as their lord nd personal saviour. As a gentile xtian r u suppose 2 obey or disobey d ten commandment of GOD since it was directed 2 d jews ?

How does God define his tithe Mr. Man? Go back to Deut. 14 and answer the damn thing man. What is wrong with u people?

booqee: i hope GOD forgive me if i'm wrong. Most times i give tithe out of necessity not out of the love of giving..and dat doesn't make me a cheerful giver which JESUS instructed us to be. That is so bad. So when i started learning about tithe esp on nairaland i stopped giving tithe. I actually used it as an excuse to stop giving tithe..not because i really believed in this preaching..but because i was really desperate for a way out of giving tithe and i got it..even though i'm not yet overly convinced. (i swear i don't understand myself) Though i noticed i've increased the amounts i give as offering to church or just giving to pple these days and its not even intentional..it just happens. I pray GOD leads me to the right path

thank God u are free from tithe bondage.. Help people around u, give to the poor and needy.. There is nothing like the so called devourer that most pastors use to hoodwink gullible brethrens into parting with their hard earned money... Jesus encouraged CHEERFUL giving, not giving by compulsion. Tithing is a FRAUD. God is not a money doubler. God can bless anyone whether u dont tithe or u do.

Hardly will Xtians av a unified view of d bible,though I pray it miraculously happens someday...measuring what one gives to God should be frowned at,rather what our heart and conscience says...we are xtians and should learn according to d works/words of Jesus Christ,particularly in New testament,while d old testament helps us with histories..d old gave way to d new just as d prophets gave way to Jese!!!