Goshen360:

Jesus could not have received tithe because Hebrews 7 says so. Samuel's priesthood is a type and shadow of believer's priesthood. Christ is our high priest and priest don't pay tithe to high priest, even under the law. As for David, don't even go there because, if I show you sometimes about David now and do teaching with it, I'm sure you will not agree with me.

Yashua and samuel are of the exact same priesthood.

They are both of The Order of Melchizedek

And not the order of Aaron.

Stop teaching DEATH.

Goshen360:

Again, the practices of the law was still in force then. Jesus was rebuking the scribes and pharisees, not his teaching his disciples. If you think Christ was addressing the church, in that verse, then put your name in Matthew 23:23 and re-read it and listen to how it sounds.

The sermon on the mount is pure LAW as is testified by scripture.

And the sermon of the mount is addressed to the true believers throughout all of time.

So whose doctrine are you teaching here?

Yours obviously. but remember this..

YOU CAN BE EXACTLY AS YOUR MASTER IS BUT NEVER GREATER.

By superimposing your own interpretations over what is literally given within the masters sermon on the mount you have EXALTED YASELF over all that is called GODLY and are presenting yaself as the GODHEAD

The spawn of the Lawlwss one

The spawn of the little horn

Candour:

I have bro......still can't find it.

Show me and I'll apologise

lol..... You did not offend me there, though i did not like such tags being associated to me.
Now the thing here is, i want to share and i definitely know it will provoke reactions. But i do not have the motivation to do so. There are already three posts of mine on this thread that i'm yet to get clear cut answers on, from you. All you've done is to tacticity evade them.
Why should i speak further when i'm not getting answers?
Maybe we should just leave this till another time.

idnoble135:
lol..... You did not offend me there, though i did not like such tags being associated to me.
Now the thing here is, i want to share and i definitely know it will provoke reactions. But i do not have the motivation to do so. There are already three posts of mine on this thread that i'm yet to get clear cut answers on, from you. All you've done is to tacticity evade them.
Why should i speak further when i'm not getting answers?
Maybe we should just leave this till another time.

All I ask is for you to show me from the Bible that Jesus tithed as you claim.

I'll apologise for calling you a liar if you can. If you can't, admit you made a mistake and we drop it.

Is that too much to prove?

Joagbaje:

Galatians 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

We are followers of abrahamic faith. Who is the father of faith. If we are children abraham we ought to follow ABRAHAM faith.

I'm impressed so far from recent feedback that many posters and tithers have deeper understanding of these things better now.


. . . To be continued in a moment.

the joagbaje I know will not continue anything.

Candour:

All I ask is for you to show me from the Bible that Jesus tithed as you claim.

I'll apologise for calling you a liar if you can. If you can't, admit you made a mistake and we drop it.

Is that too much to prove?

dont get worked up. Answer my three posts and we would be good to go.

Zikkyy:

the joagbaje I know will not continue anything.

Na smart man he be na. Underestimate him at your peril

He knows he can't defend anything. In fact I'm grateful to these guys, they made me understand some things I didn't know before about the bible and people

idnoble135:
dont get worked up. Answer my three posts and we would be good to go.

Don't worry

Alwaystrue has answered for you on christemmbassey's thread.

Zikkyy:

the joagbaje I know will not continue anything.

D FRAUDSTER JUST POSTED LIES N RAN AWAY, MAYBE TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER VICTIM TO SCAM.

Candour:

Don't worry

Alwaystrue has answered for you on christemmbassey's thread.

link?

For those who need more understanding:

Alwaystrue:
There was some things I expect you to just meditate on but I am surprised you now try everything to prove a point.

But I am saying this for your benefit and will not comments anymore om this thread:

1. Why would Jesus tithe when He did not have secular work? And His testament was not yet sealed till His death and He was born during the Levitival Priesthood so all offerings and tithes went to the temple yet he never condemned this and Paul reaffirmed it.

2. The Christians in Jerusalem gave all during the time of the apostles so they were giving 100% yet there were still complaints even within the widows when they did not get out of it. Strangely though it was not a law yet Ananias decided to go ahead and kept part and lied and lost his life.

3. Paul was being examined why? You can check the 1 Corinthians 9 and he decided to let go of what He called a right, so why will he use the right? Still he received gifts one of which he even called a fragrant offering and acceptable sacrifice. Phil 4:18 and he blessed them in verse 19. Paul ws not afraid to use a burnt offering term to describe it. He understood it. Anything of sacrifice is a burnt offering.

4. The offering for the poor saints was because of the famine and they had been giving their all already so the offerings were given to help them, it was not meant to be continuous. Atleast till they got back to their feet.

I am actually dissappointed that even when some of your fellows say some very heretical statements about Jesus and His word you still feel comfortable bantering with them even calling Jesus what He should not be called. Because something has been abused does not make the use wrong. You are not focusing on the right thing here.

Still nothing is compulsory but for our benefit whatever we do.
If Paul and Silas had not praised, may be the prison doors might not have opened on time, even Jesus said somethings goeth not out but by fasting and prayer, Jesus said we give and we receive, may be if prayers were not going on for Peter on Acts 12:5, he might not have been released on time. God has blessed us but their are something things we need to do to also access them. He has given us food but we need to work for it and so on.

It is one thing to not believe in a thing. It is another to make mockery of what you do not understand.
It is becoming ridiculous seeing some comments.
Please just spend time to do your own meditation, rather than trying to argue and score cheap points, be strong in your concluded stand irrespective of what anyone says.

Thanks for the time.
God bless you.

Idnoble, check point 1 of Alwaystrue quote. You'll learn Jesus didn't tithe

Thanks

@Candour, there are two points i want to bring out here.
First, within the space of thirty years which Jesus lived before being commissioned, He must have done some work. Jewish traditions hold that apart from being tutored in schools that existed, a child must learn a hand work. Now from all indications, it is apparent that Jesus worked, most likely from the job Joseph was doing.
2. I'm not with my bible but i think it should be Luke 8 where we are told the master was being ministered to by some people of their substance.
Those two indications suggest a thing here. This is not exactly why i said Jesus tithed but an indication that He did.

@Idnoble,
As usual I am not surpised. My post was a question being that we had no record of Jesus acts between 12-30 years but ofcourse it is seen as an 'answer' despite all I posted. LOL.

I thank the Lord for the Holy Spirit, only He guides in all truth indeed.
Please let us respect the word of God.

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idnoble135: @Candour, there are two points i want to bring out here.
First, within the space of thirty years which Jesus lived before being commissioned, He must have done some work. Jewish traditions hold that apart from being tutored in schools that existed, a child must learn a hand work. Now from all indications, it is apparent that Jesus worked, most likely from the job Joseph was doing.
2. I'm not with my bible but i think it should be Luke 8 where we are told the master was being ministered to by some people of their substance.
Those two indications suggest a thing here. This is not exactly why i said Jesus tithed but an indication that He did.

No my friend. You sounded so sure that he tithed. The widow that fed Elijah, was it tithe she paid or she just helped an hungry man? I'm happy you mentioned Jewish traditions. Now go back to that source if Jewish traditions to establish that only farmers tithed in Isreal.

Jesus NEVER tithed before he started ministry because he was a carpenter not a farmer. Only farm produce and livestock qualify for tithe.

Those women gave free will gifts to Jesus, they didn't pay tithe.

Alwaystrue: @Idnoble,
As usual I am not surpised. My post was a question being that we had no record of Jesus acts between 12-30 years but ofcourse it is seen as an 'answer' despite all I posted. LOL.

I thank the Lord for the Holy Spirit, only He guides in all truth indeed.
Please let us respect the word of God.

Alwaystrue, you're actually better than this. This is very indecent. How can you deny what you wrote up there blatantly?

Jesus did not tithe. If he did prove it

@Alwaystrue, i'm going to give one good point why i believe he did. Thats the last point i will make on tithe. Some monikers against tithe were here and yet provided no answer to about three posts i made.
Till those posts are addressed with clear cut answers, i will keep quiet over the issue.
Like i said, i will give one more point why i believe Jesus tithed. Give me say thirty minutes.

Candour:

No my friend. You sounded so sure that he tithed. The widow that fed Elijah, was it tithe she paid or she just helped an hungry man? I'm happy you mentioned Jewish traditions. Now go back to that source if Jewish traditions to establish that only farmers tithed in Isreal.

Jesus NEVER tithed before he started ministry because he was a carpenter not a farmer. Only farm produce and livestock qualify for tithe.

Those women gave free will gifts to Jesus, they didn't pay tithe.

Relax... My friend, it is well.
The widow in question was not an israelite, how could she have tithed?
She did not even recognize Elijah despite how popular he was by the virtue of being sought by Ahab in all the nations.
And i did not say those ladies tithed. Read my post as it is and dont add words to it.
Thank you.

I believe it is proper if we make our points known without letting emotions to becloud our words.
God bless!

@idnoble, OK if you say so but I am yet to see that record in the bible though I know he fulfilled all.
Why I do no bother much about that and it will remain a question is because I know He is God so He only makes the decisions and whatever He choses to do will still be just. That is my take.

Alwaystrue: @idnoble, OK if you say so but I am yet to see that record in the bible though I know he fulfilled all.
Why I do no bother much about that and it will remain a question is because I know He is God so He only makes the decisions and whatever He choses to do will still be just. That is my take.

Its just something that came to me as light. It will be open for judgement from some believers.

idnoble135:
Its just something that came to me as light. It will be open for judgement from some believers.

I'M WAITING FOR UR LATEST TWIST ON HOW JESUS PAID N COLLECTED TITHE. Bravo.

idnoble135:
Relax... My friend, it is well.
The widow in question was not an israelite, how could she have tithed?
She did not even recognize Elijah despite how popular he was by the virtue of being sought by Ahab in all the nations.
And i did not say those ladies tithed. Read my post as it is and dont add words to it.
Thank you.

No wahala. Take your time and search it out.

Meanwhile, glad you wrote the bolded because in case you don't know it, you've just proved again that Ephesian, Galatian, Roman and other gentile Christians couldn't have tithed because Tithe only came from land within Isreal

I await your expose of Jesus tithe patiently.

Thanks

[quote author=idnoble135]@Alwaystrue, i'm going to give one good point why i believe he did. Thats the last point i will make on tithe. Some monikers against tithe were here and yet provided no answer to about three posts i made.
Till those posts are addressed with clear cut answers, i will keep quiet over the issue.
Like i said, i will give one more point why i believe Jesus tithed. Give me say thirty minutes.[/quote]

I'm also waiting to read how and where Christ paid tithe or tithed. Eagerly waiting!!!

christemmbassey: I'M WAITING FOR UR LATEST TWIST ON HOW JESUS PAID N COLLECTED TITHE. Bravo.

This post reeks of pride. Whatever i post is a twist, but whatever you post is correct and true.
Smh.
You sir, shall be duly ignored on this thread.

Candour:

No wahala. Take your time and search it out.

Meanwhile, glad you wrote the bolded because in case you don't know it, you've just proved again that Ephesian, Galatian, Roman and other gentile Christians couldn't have tithed because Tithe only came from land within Isreal

I await your expose of Jesus tithe patiently.

Thanks

There is actually nothing like gentile christian.
An expose? Lol, its not. I'm typing under a kinda busy schedule. Had to take few minutes off.

Goshen360: I'm also waiting to read how
and where Christ paid tithe or
tithed. Eagerly waiting!!!

lol, even Goshen lies in wait? This is serious.

This is it. I hope its not too long. I am open to thoughts on this.

The scripture made it clear in Deut 18:18 that

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their
brethren, like unto thee, and
will put my words in his
mouth; and he shall speak
unto them all that I shall
command him.

And we know the verse talks of the Lord Jesus Christ. And the words of Jesus that he uttered are words from the Father which shows that Jesus uttering these words
11:42 was God's desire. The words of Jesus expressed the Father's will.
These words were uttered when the old covenant was established. But the context showed that God will speak through some one His will. This verse comes on the heels of the establishment of the old testament, yet it prophesies who will speak and establish the new testament. This is not where i want to head to...
In Hebrews twelve verse two, we are told,
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our
faith; who for the joy that
was set before him endured
the cross, despising the shame,
and is set down at the right
hand of the throne of God.
The words of Christ are the most important words of the scripture...
Now that said, i quote the passage where the master talked about tithe,
Luke “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful
to tithe even the tiniest
income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God.
You should tithe , yes, but do
not neglect the more
important things.11:42NLT
By this we understand that Christ taught the people to tithe. He did not stop it (refer to my first post on this thread).
That established, i move on.
Acts 1:1 reads,

The former treatise have I
made, O Theophilus, of all that
Jesus began both to do and
teach

This verse demonstrates an important principle in the earthly life of Christ here. And is it not interesting? That the Spirit of God put it in this order.
Here we learn that the lifestyle of Christ matched His words. Whatever He taught is an evidence of what He taught. He would not teach something that He did not live out. His teaching were a reflection of who He was.
So all the teachings of Jesus were what He himself had lived out.
...all that
Jesus began both to do and
teach
So Christ teaching tithe in Mathew and Luke was an indication that He must have done so, He must have tithed. And if He did, we must follow suit, Heb 12:2 because He is our role model.
Here are diverse translations on Acts 1:1.

New International Version In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach.
New Living Translation In my first book I told you, Theophilus, about everything Jesus began to do and teach.

English Standard Version In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach,
New American Standard Bible The first account I composed, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach
In my first book, Theophilus, I
wrote about everything Jesus did and taught from the beginning,
Aramaic Bible in Plain English I wrote the former book, Oh Theophila, about all those things that our Lord Yeshua The Messiah began to do and to teach
GOD'S WORD® Translation In my first book, Theophilus, I wrote about what Jesus began to do and teach. This included everything from the beginning [of his life]
Douay-Rheims Bible THE former treatise I made, O Theophilus, of all things which Jesus began to do and to teach,
I composed the first discourse, O Theophilus, concerning all things which Jesus began both to do and to teach,
Young's Literal Translation The former account, indeed, I made concerning all things, O Theophilus, that Jesus began both to do and to teach, Parallel Commentaries
There is one more proof.

idnoble135:
lol, even Goshen lies in wait? This is serious.

@idnoble,
I know Abraham and his descendants tithe of which we are a part of through Jesus Christ but I must tell you I went to check the bible to confirm this and I am just wowed!

Indeed not only did He teach, He also did.

Acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
Hmmm, so there were some things not recorded. Weldone @idnoble.

idnoble135: This is it. I hope its not too long. I am open to thoughts on this.

abracadabra, the more you look, d less u see, WONDERS SHALL NEVER END, I WAS RIHT AFTERALL, a very miserable twist. Pls ignore me jare.