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If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:21am On Oct 27, 2013
I ran across a christian cult called Heaven Gate yesterday. The group was founded by Marshall Applewhite on christian theological doctrines which encompass bible and belief in God, apocalypse (end time) and heaven. As with some other New Age faiths they combined Christian doctrine (particularly the ideas of salvation and apocalypse) with the concept of evolutionary advancement and elements of science fiction, particularly travel to other worlds and dimensions.

March 26, 1997 brought the grizzly discovery that 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult had committed mass suicide. It was reported by Dailymail that those that committed this suicide believe that the Hale-Bopp comet was a sign they should leave Earth.

Considering particularly the situation in Africa and the state of Nigeria especially......suffering, corruption, disease, death, insecurity, unemployment, starvation, natural disasters, political and economical instabilities are increasing with days. Disagreement, hatred, conflict and killing among brothers, families, commuties, town, nations are common as prophecised by the bible. Christian especially tag this as the sign of the end time as stated by their scripture. Pastors and ministers are preparing some through published books, sermon and media for the coming heaven which is going to put an end to this calamities and open door for goodness, peace and world which person wont strive anymore. They are spreading the good news that death, poverty, suffering, corrupt government and disagreement will end only in heaven and those that make it will enjoy these till eternity.

Christians on the other way have been waiting for this rapture few years back, unfortunately it never come. Some said it coming in the 80s, some said 90s, some pinned it to 2012 and Obadiah777 evaluated that at some months ago the end will come. Since christians still live with the atrocities on planet earth....their prayers failed as cant change anything....they are still bend to go to heaven and see earth doom with the evil in it.

Heaven is their home.....that is where you guys came from. Heaven is blissful home where suffering and evil wont exist again.....it sure for christians but are still found in millions suffering on earth. It is said that when journey doesn't favour you, quickly take a walk back home. Muslims have martyrs (suicide bombers) who die to fasten their way to heaven. Buddhist and Jain starve to death to pave way for escaping suffering on this crude earth.


Why cant Nigerian christians commit massive suicide like Heaven gate cult?

Why are you guys enduring on evil earth which is rule by satan when you have sweet heaven?

'Thy kingdom come' is your motto.....if it not coming, then go for the kingdom. Dont you think massive suicide is it that can move ya all to heaven?

If this cant help, your heaven is fictional place in your mind and your faith is capital nonsense. Lets see you end this suffering on all your side once and for all.

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:34am On Oct 27, 2013
List of mass suicide religious cult...

- Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God

- Jonestown.

- The people of Masada.

- Heavens Gate.

- The people of Puputan.

- Order of the Solar Temple.

These people believe in heaven and had faith it a sure place for them.....why are Nigerian christians enduring suffering and pains....heaven is your home, let see you out of this wicked world

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 9:23am On Oct 27, 2013
abi o...lol
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:45am On Oct 27, 2013
Dap07: abi o...lol

The God should not be mock.

Lets emancipate christians for the glorious heaven
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 12:12pm On Oct 27, 2013
If you really have sense, why cant people see it wtitten on your forehead.

Ode, mumu, sugomu, olodo, son of the devil. Do the world a favour and die please i beg you. People like you are the reason evil exists on earth.

How dare you talk about heaven like this. You no dey fear God. If only men were gods, i would have turned you to the bacteria that feeds on the mucus that comes out of a dead rats a.s.s.
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by beejaay: 2:47pm On Oct 27, 2013
FOLYKAZE: I ran across a christian cult called Heaven Gate yesterday. The group was founded by Marshall Applewhite on christian theological doctrines which encompass bible and belief in God, apocalypse (end time) and heaven. As with some other New Age faiths they combined Christian doctrine (particularly the ideas of salvation and apocalypse) with the concept of evolutionary advancement and elements of science fiction, particularly travel to other worlds and dimensions.

March 26, 1997 brought the grizzly discovery that 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult had committed mass suicide. It was reported by Dailymail that those that committed this suicide believe that the Hale-Bopp comet was a sign they should leave Earth.

Considering particularly the situation in Africa and the state of Nigeria especially......suffering, corruption, disease, death, insecurity, unemployment, starvation, natural disasters, political and economical instabilities are increasing with days. Disagreement, hatred, conflict and killing among brothers, families, commuties, town, nations are common as prophecised by the bible. Christian especially tag this as the sign of the end time as stated by their scripture. Pastors and ministers are preparing some through published books, sermon and media for the coming heaven which is going to put an end to this calamities and open door for goodness, peace and world which person wont strive anymore. They are spreading the good news that death, poverty, suffering, corrupt government and disagreement will end only in heaven and those that make it will enjoy these till eternity.

Christians on the other way have been waiting for this rapture few years back, unfortunately it never come. Some said it coming in the 80s, some said 90s, some pinned it to 2012 and Obadiah777 evaluated that at some months ago the end will come. Since christians still live with the atrocities on planet earth....their prayers failed as cant change anything....they are still bend to go to heaven and see earth doom with the evil in it.

Heaven is their home.....that is where you guys came from. Heaven is blissful home where suffering and evil wont exist again.....it sure for christians but are still found in millions suffering on earth. It is said that when journey doesn't favour you, quickly take a walk back home. Muslims have martyrs (suicide bombers) who die to fasten their way to heaven. Buddhist and Jain starve to death to pave way for escaping suffering on this crude earth.


Why cant Nigerian christians commit massive suicide like Heaven gate cult?

Why are you guys enduring on evil earth which is rule by satan when you have sweet heaven?

'Thy kingdom come' is your motto.....if it not coming, then go for the kingdom. Dont you think massive suicide is it that can move ya all to heaven?

If this cant help, your heaven is fictional place in your mind and your faith is capital nonsense. Lets see you end this suffering on all your side once and for all.
u are wicked oooo grin grin grin grin wetin den do u nah.. abeg free them cos na play then dey play with the heaven rythm
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by beejaay: 2:49pm On Oct 27, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: If you really have sense, why cant people see it wtitten on your forehead.

Ode, mumu, sugomu, olodo, son of the devil. Do the world a favour and die please i beg you. People like you are the reason evil exists on earth.

How dare you talk about heaven like this. You no dey fear God. If only men were gods, i would have turned you to the bacteria that feeds on the mucus that comes out of a dead rats a.s.s.
we know nah say heaven is great and sweet and its for people like you not for op and people like me thats why we are saying you should commit suicide massively and go to heaven quick quick.. or why u stil dey suffer for this evil world nah...abeg do us d favour and go home grin grin grin grin

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:50pm On Oct 27, 2013
beejaay: u are wicked oooo grin grin grin grin wetin den do u nah.. abeg free them cos na play then dey play with the heaven rythm

lol.

Garri don cost but nobody won leave earth.
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:56pm On Oct 27, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: If you really have sense, why cant people see it wtitten on your forehead.

Ode, mumu, sugomu, olodo, son of the devil. Do the world a favour and die please i beg you. People like you are the reason evil exists on earth.

How dare you talk about heaven like this. You no dey fear God. If only men were gods, i would have turned you to the bacteria that feeds on the mucus that comes out of a dead rats a.s.s.

The truth be told....according to Yoruba spirituality....there is rebirth of consciousness.

Abiku (return of little babies) and Asehinwaye (return of old person) is believed to be return of those that die biologically but returning spiritually (same consciousness). So i couldn't run anywhere. When I rush out, i will rush in. Thats the cycle.

Anyway....you have heaven thats better than this earth, why cant you move there like other christian cult? Abi you enjoying this suffering which is little bit differ from hell? Return to your home heaven.

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 3:05pm On Oct 27, 2013
Who the fvck are you to tell me shitte. Listen I have a reason for my existence and that is to bring as many souls to heaven as possible. To you guys, it might seem like a joke but hell is fvcking real and if you go there it won't be a God anymore. Fear Jehovah and don't joke about it except of course you are as dumb as the devil
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by beejaay: 3:14pm On Oct 27, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: Who the fvck are you to tell me shitte. Listen I have a reason for my existence and that is to bring as many souls to heaven as possible. To you guys, it might seem like a joke but hell is fvcking real and if you go there it won't be a God anymore. Fear Jehovah and don't joke about it except of course you are as dumb as the devil

guy u are a clown, u need to be performing on stage for peeps in ARO.....o'boy this is rili a classical case... oxymoron at its best

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 3:16pm On Oct 27, 2013
Lol I laugh
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 3:23pm On Oct 27, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: Who the fvck are you to tell me shitte. Listen I have a reason for my existence and that is to bring as many souls to heaven as possible. To you guys, it might seem like a joke but hell is fvcking real and if you go there it won't be a God anymore. Fear Jehovah and don't joke about it except of course you are as dumb as the devil

And you call yourself a Yoruba-jesus? Guy you are a clown bastard.

What is the useless mission you came to accomplish in Nigeria which God cant complete himself?

Return to your home where you sent from....die gently and nobody will remember you again.

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 3:25pm On Oct 27, 2013
*unfollows thread*
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 3:25pm On Oct 27, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: Lol I laugh

I remember Fela.....suffering and smiling.

Omo babi ikeji aja
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by macof(m): 1:20pm On Oct 29, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: If you really have sense, why cant people see it wtitten on your forehead.

Ode, mumu, sugomu, olodo, son of the devil. Do the world a favour and die please i beg you. People like you are the reason evil exists on earth.

How dare you talk about heaven like this. You no dey fear God. If only men were gods, i would have turned you to the bacteria that feeds on the mucus that comes out of a dead rats a.s.s.

You are a fool for using that username
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by macof(m): 1:40pm On Oct 29, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus:

Silly igbo boy. Go and smoke your igbo abeg. It aint my fault I'm Yoruba , is it?
undecided oniranu osi. Se mo da bi omo ibo?
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 1:57pm On Oct 29, 2013
macof:
undecided oniranu osi. Se mo da bi omo ibo?

Se o da bi mo give a fvck. Look men dont step up to me cos u ming of bullshite

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by wiegraf: 3:29pm On Oct 29, 2013
I'm not even sure if they're clear on how the system works. Do they wait till the day of judgement first, or is it immediately after they die? Or is it a timeless procedure as well, occurring both before the day of judgment and on the day of judgement? Fixing the future, thereby defenestrating free will?

Maybe they should waste 50+ pages debating this (using their trusty storybooks) first before we decide on, among other things, just what the best way to get them to heaven is.
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 3:45pm On Oct 29, 2013
lol
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by RationalDude(m): 9:39am On Oct 30, 2013
How will you advice people to commit suicide because you don't like their belief system? As if Christians are the problem with this world.
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:36am On Oct 30, 2013
RationalDude: How will you advice people to commit suicide because you don't like their belief system? As if Christians are the problem with this world.

When the journey is not favouring you, kindly return home......can you break in some sense into this?

Many christian cult did this....other religion are doing it. So why cant you do it and save yourself from this suffering on earth ruled by satan?
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by RationalDude(m): 10:46am On Oct 30, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

When the journey is not favouring you, kindly return home......can you break in some sense into this?

Many christian cult did this....other religion are doing it. So why cant you do it and save yourself from this suffering on earth ruled by satan?

Committing suicide is not the answer for Christians. Everybody dies and sooner or later they will also die, there is no point in hastening your death. Enjoy life, live it to the fullest for the earth isn't ruled by satan, it is ruled by man and we alone hold the key to ending our suffering(s).
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 30, 2013
This people are cultist and operate out of order...how many people in the bible did you hear kill themselve to make heaven;rather they were killed....christainity is not somthn to toy wt
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 11:02am On Oct 30, 2013
Yoruba_Jesus: Who the fvck are you to tell me shitte. Listen I have a reason for my existence and that is to bring as many souls to heaven as possible. To you guys, it might seem like a joke but hell is fvcking real and if you go there it won't be a God anymore. Fear Jehovah and don't joke about it except of course you are as dumb as the devil
what will you be doing in heaven when you get there?
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 11:06am On Oct 30, 2013
RationalDude: How will you advice people to commit suicide because you don't like their belief system? As if Christians are the problem with this world.
I understand you, maybe the op should have been in this form "if xtians believe in better happy sinless heaven, why are they not eager and anxious to leave this their so called sinful and wicked world?"

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Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by Nobody: 11:11am On Oct 30, 2013
nwuyag:
what will you be doing in heaven when you get there?

What a question
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by RationalDude(m): 11:23am On Oct 30, 2013
nwuyag:
I understand you, maybe the op should have been in this form "if xtians believe in better happy sinless heaven, why are they not eager and anxious to leave this their so called sinful and wicked world?"
That might have been better. But it would be wrong to think that Christians are not eager to leave this world, I've personally met a few that are quite willing to die to meet up with their maker (not by committing suicide though).
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:42am On Oct 30, 2013
RationalDude: Committing suicide is not the answer for Christians. Everybody dies and sooner or later they will also die, there is no point in hastening your death. Enjoy life, live it to the fullest for the earth isn't ruled by satan, it is ruled by man and we alone hold the key to ending our suffering(s).



oh yeah....why did Abraham moved away from his fatherland to another place chosen by God for him? Looking for greener pasture huh? And the Israelite were crying to God because they enjoying and enduring suffering in Egypt right?

Jesus could have save himself from been killed but wanted to form hero and martyr....isn't that suicide?

Show me where the bible said man rule the world. I think it was man that took jesus to the top of synagogue and present to him kingdom of the world.....if the kingdom belong to another person, jesus would have counter.

What is it to enjoy in life? Disease epidemic, low food production, crime, injustice, economic instabilities, terrorism, natural disaster or the ups and down in the countries? The bible said all is nothing but chasing of wind so why wasting your time chasing wind all around? Isn't that out of sense for a grown man to chase wind?
Re: If Heaven Is Real, Why Are Christians Still Here? by RationalDude(m): 12:01pm On Oct 30, 2013
FOLYKAZE:



oh yeah....why did Abraham moved away from his fatherland to another place chosen by God for him? Looking for greener pasture huh? And the Israelite were crying to God because they enjoying and enduring suffering in Egypt right?
What are you on about?

Jesus could have save himself from been killed but wanted to form hero and martyr....isn't that suicide?
Suicide involves taking one's own life, did Jesus take his own life?

Show me where the bible said man rule the world. I think it was man that took jesus to the top of synagogue and present to him kingdom of the world.....if the kingdom belong to another person, jesus would have counter.
do you hold the bible to be the absolute truth?

What is it to enjoy in life? Disease epidemic, low food production, crime, injustice, economic instabilities, terrorism, natural disaster or the ups and down in the countries? The bible said all is nothing but chasing of wind so why wasting your time chasing wind all around? Isn't that out of sense for a grown man to chase wind?
If you believe that life isn't worth it, why haven't you committed suicide yet?

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