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Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by hayoakins(m): 4:49pm On Nov 25, 2013
For a while now, have been so much concerned about how tithe should be paid. Though it is not my business how my tithe is being administered by the church either its used judiciously since am giving it to God and not Man but as a man, i cant really closed my eyes to how the funds are administered with little or nothing going to the those who indeed need it as stringent conditions are setup to deter access.

Deuteronomy 26:12 (Different Translations)

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King James Bible
When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;

New International Version
When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.

New Living Translation
"Every third year you must offer a special tithe of your crops. In this year of the special tithe you must give your tithes to the Levites, foreigners, orphans, and widows, so that they will have enough to eat in your towns.

English Standard Version
“When you have finished paying all the tithe of your produce in the third year, which is the year of tithing, giving it to the Levite, the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your towns and be filled,

New American Standard Bible
"When you have finished paying all the tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and to the widow, that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.


International Standard Version
"When you have finished your harvest, reserve the tithe in the third year (the year of the tithe), and give the entire tithe to the descendants of Levi, to the foreigners, to the orphans, and to the widows, so they may eat and be satisfied in your cities.

NET Bible
When you finish tithing all your income in the third year (the year of tithing), you must give it to the Levites, the resident foreigners, the orphans, and the widows so that they may eat to their satisfaction in your villages.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Every third year is the year when you will store a tenth of that year's crops [in your houses]. During that year distribute what you have stored to the Levites, foreigners, orphans, and widows in your cities, and they may eat all they want.


American King James Version
When you have made an end of tithing all the tithes of your increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within your gates, and be filled;

American Standard Version
When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithe of thine increase in the third year, which is the year of tithing, then thou shalt give it unto the Levite, to the sojourner, to the fatherless, and to the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled.

Douay-Rheims Bible
When thou hast made an end of tithing all thy fruits, in the third year of tithes thou shalt give it to the Levite, and to the stranger, and to the fatherless, and to the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled:


Webster's Bible Translation

When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thy increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled:

World English Bible
When you have made an end of tithing all the tithe of your increase in the third year, which is the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the foreigner, to the fatherless, and to the widow, that they may eat within your gates, and be filled.

Young's Literal Translation
'When thou dost complete to tithe all the tithe of thine increase in the third year, the year of the tithe, then thou hast given to the Levite, to the sojourner, to the fatherless, and to the widow, and they have eaten within thy gates, and been satisfied,
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 4:57pm On Nov 25, 2013

People can OVERRULE the will of GOD in order to do as it pleases them, but the CONSEQUENCES are dire.

Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by hayoakins(m): 7:20pm On Nov 25, 2013
ckkris:
People can OVERRULE the will of GOD in order to do as it pleases them, but the CONSEQUENCES are dire.


Please be explicit in your comment.

Thank you.
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 10:46pm On Nov 25, 2013
In Matthew 23 : 23 Jesus sustains TITHES in the New Testament. Regrettably, MOST congregations do not spend the TITHE as God prescribes. And this leads to all kinds of corruption in the church, which overflows into the society. If TITHE is distributed according to Deuteronomy 26 : 12, churches will be as strong as they were in the 1st century.
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by MarkMiwerds(m): 11:22pm On Nov 25, 2013
ckkris:
People can OVERRULE the will of GOD in order to do as it pleases them, but the CONSEQUENCES are dire.

When a pastor preaches tithing today, that pastor IS overruling the will of God.

In Acts 15:10, the Apostle Peter rebuked the religious leaders in Jerusalem for their demanding that the Gentile Converts keep the Law of Moses: He told them they were tempting God.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

The admonition was that the Gentile Converts were not to be bound by the Mosaic Law. It was not given to them, it was given to Israel alone. The Law did not work for Israel, why would it work for other nations?

Acts 15:22-29 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren: And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Both the Holy Ghost and the Apostles decided that the Mosaic Law was not to be required of the Gentile Converts. The Gentile Converts were to observe only four necessary things: that they abstain from meats offered to idols, that they abstain from blood, that they abstain from things strangled, and that they abstain from fornication.

The letters were sent out by the Apostles as decided. From that point forward, the Bible has no instance whatsoever of the New Testament Church being commanded to tithe. God didn't want it to be taught or it would have been in His Word... especially in the pastoral epistles, where we learn the way that God desires a Church to be operated.

Since God's Word gives no instruction to the New Testament Church, where did the command for them to tithe come from? From man. The monetary tithe was never taught in the New Testament Church from the first Century A.D., to late 8th Century A.D., there was no such doctine as a monetary tithe in the Church.

Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

In late 8th Century, A.D., man added to God's Word by writing into Church Law that a monetary tithe was to be given to the Church. Thus, the Church was defiled with its own works. It was found to be a liar, for it added to God's Holy Word its own opinions and made that opinion a doctrine that they demanded of others that they were to obey.

Psalms 106:39 Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.

And because they now teach the monetary tithe as a doctirne that was given by God, they are overruling the will of God for the Church and their worship is in vain.

Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 4:13am On Nov 26, 2013
In
Matthew 23 : 23



Jesus UPHELD the paying of tithes, as well as doing justice & righteousness. Jesus didn't give new commands on tithes as He did on ADULTERY. That GREEDY PASTORS choose to confiscate all the tithes to themselves doesn't change the WORD OF GOD. And everyone can see how the abuse & misuse of such holy monies destroy those pastors, their families, & their churches, that binge on tithes, which The Most High God declares as belonging to HIS HOUSE. The lavish lifestyle of the pastors that claim that tithes belong to them ALONE, is not what Spirit-led Christians would emulate at all, Psalm 37 : 1. Just look a little beyond the surface, & marvel at the destruction, sometimes irredeemable damnation that these greedy pastors bring upon themselves, by confiscating tithe monies to themselves alone.
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by MarkMiwerds(m): 4:48am On Nov 26, 2013
ckkris: In
Matthew 23 : 23



Jesus UPHELD the paying of tithes, as well as doing justice & righteousness. Jesus didn't give new commands on tithes as He did on ADULTERY. That GREEDY PASTORS choose to confiscate all the tithes to themselves doesn't change the WORD OF GOD. And everyone can see how the abuse & misuse of such holy monies destroy those pastors, their families, & their churches, that binge on tithes, which The Most High God declares as belonging to HIS HOUSE. The lavish lifestyle of the pastors that claim that tithes belong to them ALONE, is not what Spirit-led Christians would emulate at all, Psalm 37 : 1. Just look a little beyond the surface, & marvel at the destruction, sometimes irredeemable damnation that these greedy pastors bring upon themselves, by confiscating tithe monies to themselves alone.
you are correct to say that Jesus did not give any new commands on tithes.

He simply enforced the tithes of agricultural produce. "Ye tithe mint, and anise, and cummin... This ye ought to have done."

Jesus did not change the tithe... corrupt preachers did.
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by Joagbaje(m): 6:03am On Nov 26, 2013
hayoakins: For a while now, have been so much concerned about how tithe should be paid. Though it is not my business how my tithe is being administered by the church either its used judiciously since am giving it to God and not Man but as a man,

The bible was clear that such giving is such as tithes and offering are brought into the house of God. Where the ministers pray over them

i cant really closed my eyes to how the funds are administered with little or nothing going to the those who indeed need it as stringent conditions are setup to deter access.

It's not your place to determine what such giving to God is used for. Except you didn't give it to God.

Deuteronomy 26:12 (Different Translations)

Parallel Verses

King James Bible
When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;

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That scripture is not about the general tithe which is given to God. The general tithe was done every year and it is taken to the place of worship . But this particular one is another tithe which is used for love feast the giver eats it with the poor. It's done every 3 years. It's like God saying . " take 10% of your income to the house of God and take another 10% for charity". That's the simplest way I can explain it.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by jaybee3(m): 6:06am On Nov 26, 2013
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Thanks guys
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by Candour(m): 7:06am On Nov 26, 2013
Joagbaje:

The bible was clear that such giving is such as tithes and offering are brought into the house of God. Where the ministers pray over them

Not true at all. Nothing about bringing tithes and offerings to the house of God to be prayed over. If there's such a scripture, quote it for the world to see.





It's not your place to determine what such giving to God is used for. Except you didn't give it to God.

God already stipulated how tithes, offerings etc are to be utilised in the temple and it amounts to rebellion to concoct another selfish style. Read your bible and you'll find out. Jesus and the apostles explicitly let us into their minds on how collections were to be utilized in the new testament. Mainly for the poor. Its in your Bible.




That scripture is not about the general tithe which is given to God. The general tithe was done every year and it is taken to the place of worship . But this particular one is another tithe which is used for love feast the giver eats it with the poor. It's done every 3 years. It's like God saying . " take 10% of your income to the house of God and take another 10% for charity". That's the simplest way I can explain it.

What you call general tithe is given to the Levites who then bring it to the storehouse of the temple for sharing among their families. They then give 10% of it or tithe of tithes to the priest meaning the priest only got 1% of the tithes of all Israel. God already gave his portion to the Levites and its meant to be eaten by them. This is also in your bible.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 9:15am On Nov 26, 2013
Joagbaje:

The bible was clear that such giving is such as tithes and offering are brought into the house of God. Where the ministers pray over them



It's not your place to determine what such giving to God is used for. Except you didn't give it to God.



That scripture is not about the general tithe which is given to God. The general tithe was done every year and it is taken to the place of worship . But this particular one is another tithe which is used for love feast the giver eats it with the poor. It's done every 3 years. It's like God saying . " take 10% of your income to the house of God and take another 10% for charity". That's the simplest way I can explain it.


Malachy 3 : 10; Bring ALL THE TITHES into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house.
Deuteronomy 26 : 14 forbids paying these TITHES to the DEAD, as to DEAD CHURCHES described in Revelation 3 : 1, which refers to these 419 'churches', alias prosperity churches, where PAPAPRENEURS prey on people who REFUSE to study the Bible. The clever OWNERS of such 'churches' are the ones that confiscate all tithes to themselves, claiming to be PRIESTS, LEVITES, and whatever fancy titles they assign to themselves.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by Zikkyy(m): 9:30am On Nov 26, 2013
Joagbaje:
The bible was clear that such giving is such as tithes and offering are brought into the house of God. Where the ministers pray over them

This is what happens when you mistake the "rhapsody" for the bible grin the bible did not say you should bring your tithe for ministers to pray over them.

Joagbaje:
That scripture is not about the general tithe which is given to God.

You mean God stretched his hand from Heaven to collect the tithe himself grin The beneficiaries of the tithe were the Levites, widows, orphans, even aliens. So which of the beneficiary above equate to giving to God and which one equate to giving to satan?

Joagbaje:
The general tithe was done every year and it is taken to the place of worship.

What are you talking about? the merriment tithe was also annual.

Deuteronomy 14:22-23 (NIV)
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 9:48am On Nov 26, 2013
God will deliver Nigerians from these predatory PAPAPRENEURS. And Nigerians are generally growing in paying tithes, regularly, and SCRIPTURAL-LY
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by Candour(m): 10:19am On Nov 26, 2013
ckkris:

Malachy 3 : 10; Bring ALL THE TITHES into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house.
Deuteronomy 26 : 14 forbids paying these TITHES to the DEAD, as to DEAD CHURCHES described in Revelation 3 : 1, which refers to these 419 'churches', alias prosperity churches, where PAPAPRENEURS prey on people who REFUSE to study the Bible. The clever OWNERS of such 'churches' are the ones that confiscate all tithes to themselves, claiming to be PRIESTS, LEVITES, and whatever fancy titles they assign to themselves.

Thank God you know the trademark of dead churches and their 419 leaders. All they are after is money and they will rob widows and even dead bodies to get the cash.

They claim to be Levites and priests to appropriate the tithes but reject the part that says Levites and priests shouldn't have other sources of income or properties claiming we are no longer under the law. Thieves and robbers they truly are.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 11:05am On Nov 26, 2013
Candour:

Thank God you know the trademark of dead churches and their 419 leaders. All they are after is money and they will rob widows and even dead bodies to get the cash.

They claim to be Levites and priests to appropriate the tithes but reject the part that says Levites and priests shouldn't have other sources of income or properties claiming we are no longer under the law. Thieves and robbers they truly are.
Still all who HUNGER & THIRST AFTER RIGHTEOUSNESS, are being filled today, even in Nigeria, as everywhere else in this world.

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by hayoakins(m): 2:46pm On Nov 26, 2013
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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 7:09pm On Nov 27, 2013
Tithe is holy money, Leviticus 27 : 30.

Take a look at people you know, that confiscate God's holy money, and see whether you desire to be like them. Jehovah Elohim is an awesome God. He didn't pity Israel, and will not pity anyone else, that refuse to repent, but continue to abuse the abundant GRACE that is in Christ Jesus.
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by MarkMiwerds(m): 8:58pm On Nov 27, 2013
ckkris: Tithe is holy money, Leviticus 27 : 30.

Take a look at people you know, that confiscate God's holy money, and see whether you desire to be like them. Jehovah Elohim is an awesome God. He didn't pity Israel, and will not pity anyone else, that refuse to repent, but continue to abuse the abundant GRACE that is in Christ Jesus.
Leviticus 27:30 does not say tithe is money. Leviticus says the tithe of the land is the seed of the land and the fruit of the trees.

Throughout the Old Testament, tithes were eaten... they were never money.

And nowhere does God's Word ever call money "holy".

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Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by ckkris: 10:56pm On Nov 27, 2013
Mark Miwerds:


nowhere does God's Word ever call money "holy".



Any personal property of The Holy God, is considered holy, and that's why tithes are holy, Leviticus 27 : 30, and you know Israelites were always bringing monetary offerings of Gold, Silver, & Bronze, into the Temple.
Re: Can Tithe Be Shared Amongst The Church, Stranger, Widow And The Poor? by MarkMiwerds(m): 5:04am On Nov 28, 2013
ckkris:

Any personal property of The Holy God, is considered holy, and that's why tithes are holy, Leviticus 27 : 30, and you know Israelites were always bringing monetary offerings of Gold, Silver, & Bronze, into the Temple.

Show me one verse that says money was tithed to the Temple.

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