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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by MEILYN(m): 6:46pm On Dec 24, 2013
My people perish because they lack knowledge. Oh, Christ died for your sins, so you can now sin as you like?. Using the son to fight the father smh.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by MEILYN(m): 6:51pm On Dec 24, 2013
funshint:
So the only way to obey the law is to attend church?? Shallow christians.. Look here church is just like a school; the real outside world is the exam. Even demons become angels when they're are in church; but they still remain who they are.
I never said so, where did i say something like that? Church gets you more evil. You hear Christians saying we can now sin because the laws have been abolished. See, you Christians have all been sold a lemon. You must keep the laws. Fact. Misunderstanding paul is all you Christians do.

"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;" (2 Peter 3:15)."As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:16)<<< thats what they do in church.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by funshint(m): 6:54pm On Dec 24, 2013
mrs bin gbagbo: ie by believing in Jesus, by praying, by fasting, by trying to abstain from sin etc. cant i make heaven with these?
Also by loving your husband wholeheartedly, being good to your neighbours, giving to the poor/needy, helping those in need of your assistance and showing mercy when necessary.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by MEILYN(m): 6:55pm On Dec 24, 2013
jamael:
the Bible said seek ye 1st the kingdom of God...
you seek it where it is. That is in a true Bible believing Church not chilling at home so Run now now now to Church and pray and stop ranting with foolish questions on NL
There is no bible believing Church in Nigeria and Other parts of the world. Erm, the old testament is irrelevant, the new have cancelled the old, exactly what you peeps say. God have mercy.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Nobody: 6:58pm On Dec 24, 2013
mrs bin gbagbo: ie by believing in Jesus, by praying, by fasting, by trying to abstain from sin etc. cant i make heaven with these?
y wil u believe in Jesus Christ and yet refuse to follow his teachings, remember 'do not despise the gathering of brethren'
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by AGgal(f): 6:58pm On Dec 24, 2013
satowind: Seasons greeting my people

Are u ok?

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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by funshint(m): 6:58pm On Dec 24, 2013
MEILYN: I never said so, where did i say something like that? Church gets you more evil. You hear Christians saying we can now sin because the laws have been abolished. See, you Christians have all been sold a lemon. You must keep the laws. Fact. Misunderstanding paul is all you Christians do.

"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;" (2 Peter 3:15)."As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:16)<<< thats what they do in church.
What you're saying now is a different thing entirely though you're right. So many pastors mislead their members to believe that they are well covered because christ has alrdy died for their sins. Thus they are not bound by the old laws...may God help us!
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by MEILYN(m): 7:07pm On Dec 24, 2013
funshint:
What you're saying now is a different thing entirely though you're right. So many pastors mislead their members to believe that they are well covered because christ has alrdy died for their sins. Thus they are not bound by the old laws...may God help us!
Exactly bro. Your head dey there.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by haryurmide(m): 7:21pm On Dec 24, 2013
You will answer the question yourself if you truly respond affirmatively to my questions:
* are you saved?
* do you meet the criteria expected of you?
* are you well-versed scripturally to position you independent of church?

Attending church is not a sure ticket to heaven though it can aid you there sha.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by fuckluv(f): 7:31pm On Dec 24, 2013
satowind: Seasons greeting my people
U are cool smiley
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by nanizle(m): 7:43pm On Dec 24, 2013
Pope Benedict Francis says you don't need to believe in God to make heaven.
So Op, you are good to go. (if you live a good life of course)
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Geepee014: 7:48pm On Dec 24, 2013
cant i make heaven with these? But what will make a member of God's family not to like the company of other children of God?
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by InvertedHammer: 7:51pm On Dec 24, 2013
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Wetin concern church and heaven?

Church is supposed to be a place where believers get together to worship God.

But today, church has been redefined as a place where smooth talkers gather and hustle their followers.

They promise their followers enjoyment in heaven..while they opt for enjoyment on earth.

And if that format doesn't work, they coerce/threaten you to bribe God to get his blessings.

Most Nigerians do not see anything wrong in this practice because bribery is an acceptable practice in the society.

That is to say, bribe the policeman, freedom of movement; bribe the judge, freedom from prosecution; bribe God, material acquisition.

You do not need church to go to heaven. Which church sef? Catholics detest Anglicans who detest pentecostal and vice versa

in reverse order.


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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by haibe(m): 7:55pm On Dec 24, 2013
Sheykul Islam:

its sad people still believe this , where it clearly stated in the christian bible that salvation is not believing jesus to be lord and savior ( read isaiah 43 vs 10-12) but keeping commandments of God just as jesus was quoted to have said in matt 19 vs 16 - 17 and mark 12 vs 28- 32. And where in d bible did they tell u christians would go to heaven?

Can someone pls take this guy to the psychiatrist.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by imanuel5959: 8:10pm On Dec 24, 2013
@op †ђξ above are just acts of faithful living. To make heaven you must be trully bred by a bible believing assembly. The bible tasks us to test every spirit to know if is from †ђξ lord so Щњεn U̶̲̥̅̊ enter a church if U̶̲̥̅̊ aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ trully being led by †ђξ spirit of God, he will tell U̶̲̥̅̊ whether U̶̲̥̅̊ shld remain in ƌ̲̣̣̣̥at local assembly if U̶̲̥̅̊ aя̩̥̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ very sensitive in †ђξ spirit. Do not be deceived by acts of righteousness ƌ̲̣̣̣̥at was †ђe way of †ђξ pharisees ƌ̲̣̣̣̥at Jesus condemned. Candles stand on candle sticks, trees grow on land, so do not forsake †ђξ assembly of brethren together, yes U̶̲̥̅̊ must belong to a local assembly so dt U̶̲̥̅̊ will be built up in †ђξ faith and madeto stand firmly.iron sharpeneth iron so a man strengtheneth his friend.
May †ђξ lord keep U̶̲̥̅̊ .
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Dec 24, 2013
nanizle: Pope Benedict says you don't need to believe in God to make heaven.
So Op, you are good to go. (if you live a good life of course)
pls can u help me with the site where it is that the pope said so
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by larivers: 8:13pm On Dec 24, 2013
[quote author=faby11]

Yes you can make it to heaven if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior with your whole life revolving around him, 1 Cor 2:16-19, ye are the temple of God not the "church", also the Church is a group of people not a place, so if you have fellowship with a group of people ( two or three people Matt 18:20) you fellowship will be accepted.
Also God does not dwell in temple made with imperfect hand, but rather he dwells in man ( perfect man that he made with his perfect hand). Acts 7:48-50
Fellowship with the Lord Jesus and He will lead you through His Word.

"Please note that sin is not able to make that which is perfect imperfect."

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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by God2man(m): 8:22pm On Dec 24, 2013
Profile is terrible, you have changed your id again.

Lord have mercy.

God2man.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by nationwide1(m): 8:23pm On Dec 24, 2013
mrs bin gbagbo: ie by believing in Jesus, by praying, by fasting, by trying to abstain from sin etc. cant i make heaven with these?
My sister, I'm happy for you because you want to make heaven as a Christian. Today, so many people go to church but not with the aim of making heaven. Heaven is a prepared place for prepared people and no place prepares one for heaven better than the church. If you don't want the general church, please have a group that pray and discuss Bible with you at home because the Bible says iron sharpens iron and do not forsake the assembly of brethren. But you did not tell us why you don't like the church. The Psalmist says I was glad when they said let us go to the house of the Lord. Please get born again and you will find yourself loving the gathering of brethren. Anyone who goes to church without heaven in mind is miserable.

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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by tayus: 8:32pm On Dec 24, 2013
Its d cmng togeda of pple of God dat make up d church, wtout dat dere is nothng called xtian and u wil not be one of. It is compulsory to go church. Faith come by hearing.

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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Gombs(m): 8:34pm On Dec 24, 2013
ledafaze: You can only make heaven by believing in Jesus Christ, his death, salvation, washing away of sins and justification because we live by faith.

If one pastor quotes the bible that the bible says you must not revoke the meeting of believers, tell that pastor that you are all believers in your family... even on Nairaland we meet here as believers... praying with your family is also part of meeting as believers... so don't be fooled.

Going to heaven is not tied to your church attendance. Jesus was there to prove a point... to hear and teach the word of God... If they had internet in those days, I believe it should not be stressful for him.

If you ask me, I really don'y have a constant church... I have been to a few tho... and I only try stick to where i believe they really teach unbiased.

Presently with The Apostolic Church (TAC) - Its like a family church service everytime I attend cos the pastors are always free to talk and they say the truth... the only thing I really dont like there is the way the offering goes... kai!

Also MFM... was even a teacher there but had to leave when we were told to uphold anything Dr D. K. Olukoya holds and reject what he rejects.... spoon-feeding at this age and time? Abegi! But I really love their service, the only church where Praise and Worship goes for over 1 hour every sunday... Whao! and the hymns.. like 5 - 7 every sunday service... more so, I had to leave when they started forcing me to teach @ the head quarters cos I was not ready to tell the followers to also hold what the G.O. holds... him be God?

Synagogue... I have been there a few times... to feed my eyes ni o jare... Sebi when Jesus was passing by a guy possessed by legions, He already knew from afar but still passed there to feed his physical eyes and also tell a story... so I was there also to do eye feeding...

Celestial Church of Christ (C. C. C.) ... Cherubim and Seraphim (C & S), Christ Apostolic Church (C. A. C), Christ Apostolic Mission Church (C. A. M. C), TREM, Deeper Life, Catholic, Anglican... but not and never the Church of Satan...

So, the bottom of it all is this... Religion is of the world... but Christlikeness is within.

EDIT: I never type finish, Ajibam don come... anyways I see you!

U be church supervisor abi inspector? shocked

At op did Jesus ever missed going to the synagogue? The man went there as frequent as normal
Find a church and be a part of raising others in the faith
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Nobody: 8:40pm On Dec 24, 2013
The children of God were gathered in a room at ephesus praising the Lord and the Holy spirit descended upon them in form of cloves of fire. Please don't be mislead. The annointing did not go to look for those people in their homes. They had to be in unison. "When 2 or 3 are gathered in my name...." You need to grow in your spiritual life and you need the church to guide you and help you learn as you walk step by step unto total righteousness. I'm not just guessing but talking from my personal experience. I made the mistake that is still haunting me up till now and as a brother I sincerely advice you not to attempt it or if you already have try to seek help from a real man of God. SIN WILL DEFINITELY CREEP INTO YOUR LIFE AS SOON AS YOU DETACH YOURSELF FROM HIS PRESENCE. You may not notice it early enough. You may make the decision to step out yourself but when coming in, you'll another's help. By God's grace I'd be heading back into His presence soonest and I indulge you to do same. GOD BLESS YOU

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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by nanizle(m): 8:41pm On Dec 24, 2013
faby11:
pls can u help me with the site where it is that the pope said so

http://news.msn.com/world/atheists-are-good-if-they-do-good-pope-francis-says
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Bome01(m): 8:43pm On Dec 24, 2013
Yes of course! The church doesnt guarantee making heaven!
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by excelmanager(m): 8:44pm On Dec 24, 2013
Luke4:16 he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Heb10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Ur identity with christ is what takes u to heaven.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by oluagun: 8:57pm On Dec 24, 2013
If we base our salvation on church going, den dos who do not hav d opportunity of going to church ll not be saved. Salvation is in ur relalationship wit God. So its just important u do all u can to keep dat relationship of wic meeting oda gud xtians is part. Shalom
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Nobody: 9:00pm On Dec 24, 2013
ledafaze: You can only make heaven by believing in Jesus Christ, his death, salvation, washing away of sins and justification because we live by faith.

If one pastor quotes the bible that the bible says you must not revoke the meeting of believers, tell that pastor that you are all believers in your family... even on Nairaland we meet here as believers... praying with your family is also part of meeting as believers... so don't be fooled.

If you ask me, I really don'y have a constant church... I have been to a few tho... and I only try stick to where i believe they really teach unbiased.

Celestial Church of Christ (C. C. C.) ... Cherubim and Seraphim (C & S), Christ Apostolic Church (C. A. C), Christ Apostolic Mission Church (C. A. M. C), TREM, Deeper Life, Catholic, Anglican... but not and never the Church of Satan...

So, the bottom of it all is this... Religion is of the world... but Christlikeness is within.

Thank you very much and may God bless you. 1000likes.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by khowman(m): 9:23pm On Dec 24, 2013
mrs bin gbagbo: ie by believing in Jesus, by praying, by fasting, by trying to abstain from sin etc. cant i make heaven with these?

i suggest you just to study islam, to make heaven, i am not forsing you but think you will find it very true, and satisfying.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by thehomer: 9:29pm On Dec 24, 2013
mrs bin gbagbo:
why must i by force join a church?

The bills for the pastor's private jets have to be paid since they won't pay themselves.
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Dec 24, 2013
Funny Question!There's no one on earth that can give u a definite answer to ur Q.Everyone on earth is a speculator,Fact!
Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by checkdate(m): 9:42pm On Dec 24, 2013
I AM SO SO HAPPY SOME ONE CAN COME UP WITH THIS KIND OF ENLIGHTENING SUBJECT. (my contribution comes like a proverb ''if a lizard rejects the comfort of a tree, destruction awaits it'')
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.REASONS WHY YOU MUST GO TO CHURCH:
Some believers don't think it is necessary for
them to belong to a particular local assembly -
church. While some attend a different church
e very week without commitment to any, some don't attend at all. As Christains, it's important for you to identify with a local assembly, a church you can call your HOME and participate fully in the activities. Otherwise, you'll deprive your self of a lot of God's blessings and you'll be walking out of line with His Word. Here are some of the reasons you must go to church: 1) GOD SAID SO:

The Scripture is unambiguous in letting us know that God desires His children to attend churchmeetings. In Hebrews 10:25, the admonition is clear not to forsake the assembly (meetings) of the brethren, and even goes on to indicate that some were erroneously doing so.
2) JESUS DID, SHOWING US A PATTERN TO FOLLOW:
The scriptures show that the Lord Jesus had a
culture of going to "church." It was part of His
personal discipline and devotion - His custom:
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been
brought up: and, as his custom was, He went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and
stood up for to read" (Luke 4:16). The Master
took going to "church" as an important activity, and having been called into fellowship with Him we should follow His example and live as He did.
3) IT IS THE VEHICLE BY WHICH YOU FUNCTION IN THE BODY OF CHRIST:
A Christain is not a committed Christain until he
demostrates his commitment in the local
assembly, because the local assembly forms an integral part of the spiritual body of Christ, which is God's representative on earth. You can't function in that body until you function in the local assembly. The early church was made up of local assemblies, and several were mentioned in the epistles, for example Romans 16:5 and Revelation 3.

4) THE CHURCH IS THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF
TRUTH (1 Timothy 3:15):
God wants His children to know the truth about life, because the truth makes you free from bondage and sets you at liberty. In the Church ,you're taught the truth. In the absence of the truth, a man will believe a lie and be a victim of it.
For example the scriptures tells us that Jesus has abolished death, and brought life and
immortality to light through the gospel. In th
Church, these truths are not only taught, but
explained. The teaching of God's Word is crutial for victorious living, and the Church is the primary placd for this.

5) THE CHURCH IS A PLACE OF FELLOWSHIP WITH
OTHER CHRISTAINS:
Fellowship with other Christains is crucial to thegrowth of a believer. In Hebrews 10:24-25 we're admonished to provoke one another to love,and to good works. We're also to encourage one another. In Proverbs 27:17, the scriptures indicate that we sharpen ourselves as we fellowship. The company a man keeps will affect his life and growth (1Corrinthians 15:33). So keeping and being found in the right company is desirable, and going to church facilitates this.

6) THE CHURCH IS A PLACE WHERE CHRISTAIN
GROWTH AND CHARACTER ARE ENHANCED:
In Ephasians 4:11-16, the scriptures clearly state that God ordains certain offices for the benefit of the Christain, for growth and to sharpen his spiritual development. These offices are found in the Church, and men are ordained into them for the local assembly, for the benefit of those in that local assembly.

7) THE CHURCH IS A PLACE WHERE YOU HEAR THE
WORD REQUIRED FOR FAITH AND LIFE:
God requires us to live by faith, for without faith it's impossible to please Him
(Hebrews 11:6). The preaching of the Word imparts faith and the teaching of the Word helps that faith grow as you understand and put what you've learnt to work.

cool THE CHURCH IS A PLACE OF TRAINING: In
2 Timothy 3:16, the Bible lets us know that the
Word of God is given to train and instruct you. In the Church, God sets instructors who are able to instruct you in the truth, and help you culture your life. The Church is a place where discipline and proper conduct are imparted. These are required for your spiritual growth and effective service for the Lord
(1 Corinthians 14:40).

9) THE CHURCH IS A SOLUTION TO LIFE'S
QUESTIONS:
In the Epistles we see the Apostles sending
letters to the churches to address questions that the brethren had. It hasn't changed. The church is uniquely equipped by the Holy Spirit to communicate wisdom from God for questions a Christain might have. Getting answers from the world is a dread end, since the wisdom of the world can't satisfactorily provide solutions to life's issues, because it's destined to fail
(1Corinthians 2:6).

10) THE CHURCH IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN
EXPERIENCE THE CORPERATE ANOINTING:
As brethren dwell together in unity, the
scriptures tell us in Psalm 133 that it provokes a corperate anointing that blesses everyone. The anointing is contagious and in the Church, by association, a Christain can do much more with other believers than he could by himself.

11) THE CHURCH IS A PLACE OF REFUGE, COMFORT
AND REFRESHING:
A Christain is guaranteed to receive
encouragement and words of refreshing in
church. This is often needed after the travails of the market-place of life. The church is a place where you can receive the undiluted truth, and learn new things that are progressively to your benefit. The church is a place of upliftment ,encouragement and refuge. No wonder Davidwas always delighted about being in church
(Psalm 122:1, Psalm 27:4).

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Re: Can I Make Heaven Without Going To Church? by Donmichaelz(m): 9:44pm On Dec 24, 2013
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