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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 8:03am On Aug 01, 2014
Jumu'a Mubarak brethren

"And when the prayer has been concluded, disperse within the land and seek from the bounty of Allah, and remember Allah often that you may succeed"
Sura jumu'a:11

"Search out sustenance. It is guaranteed to one who looks for it"
~Imam Ali (as)
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by yetunsbay(m): 8:22am On Aug 01, 2014
AlBaqir:

What makes Islam unique is the fact that there are steps and guide (divine) for every aspect of human life.

In Islam, you don't just walk up to a woman and disclose your intention. Islam value and protect woman more than you can ever imagine.

In Islam you need approval from her wali (parents or guardian). In turn they will talk to their daughter and allow you guys to talk.

Unfortunately, no one cares about this Islamic moral standard anymore. We simply follow animalistic 'western civilization' where you can approach woman anyhow.



'Morally' speaking (as per the norms of this society)she might be thinking like that. But Islamically there's absolutely nothing wrong in that.

He knows best.
'western civiliaation '.My belief is that where we met ourselves and way of d world.Most of people knows d best procedure and guideline but a situation may surface where it isn't clear enough to be applied.E.g as an undergraduate is quite difficult searching for a 'wali' to brief on your behalf.......& only He can make dat easy.

To my questn can I move ahead on my aforementioned step******no wali here*******
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 8:31am On Aug 01, 2014
albaqir:

Unfortunately, no one cares about this Islamic moral standard anymore. We simply follow animalistic 'western civilization' where you can approach woman anyhow.


Problem i have with most here exactly is this. Stating that "meeting up" or showing your intentions is always western. There's nothing western about that.

If you want to make something look bad or illegal you don't have to tag it western. Its more like calling a dog a bad name just to hang it.

Please be a realist for once and see things for what they are and work out solutions instead of prescribing things you yourself won't use. The world is not that small village you can criss cross again. Where every family knows the other. People are upwardly mobile. This scenario the guy paints simple shows they are in a school environment or something similar.

How would it be possible for him to meet her guardian? Is it someone who may have travelled thousands of miles to school in another city you want to be finding her guardian around?

Also how would it sound even if you get her guardian's details to tell them "ejo sir or ma, mo fe ri yin" and just blurt it out that you wanna get involved with their kid?

How are sure he/she even has same intentions or is even betrothed?

I am not saying people should go borderline crazy and imbibe immoral acts but please religion leaves room for some navigation. Intention and how they go about this process and the guiding against what is forbidden is the most important thing here.

It would be like being hypocrites saying things we know is virtually impossible giving the circumstances without giving suitable and workable alternatives while we know how many of you Ulamas tied the knot.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 8:41am On Aug 01, 2014
yetunsbay: 'western civiliaation '.My belief is that where we met ourselves and way of d world.Most of people knows d best procedure and guideline but a situation may surface where it isn't clear enough to be applied.E.g as an undergraduate is quite difficult searching for a 'wali' to brief on your behalf.......& only He can make dat easy.

To my questn can I move ahead on my aforementioned step******no wali here*******
Maybe you find someone more elderly or senior in your environment to relate your interest to her. Its more about trying to prevent unnecessary free mixing of the genders.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 2:50pm On Aug 01, 2014
Key points in the sermon of Ayatullah Mohammed Ali Movahhedi Karmani who led the Weekly Friday
Prayers in Tehran today:

-Muslim countries should cut ties with Israel.

-Muslims should boycott Israel-made products.

-Muslim countries should not be friendly with
countries that actively aid Israeli crimes.

-Muslim countries should equip Palestinians with
weapons to help defend themselves against Israeli
aggression.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 4:16pm On Aug 01, 2014
yetunsbay: 'western civiliaation '.My belief is that where we met ourselves and way of d world.Most of people knows d best procedure and guideline but a situation may surface where it isn't clear enough to be applied.E.g as an undergraduate is quite difficult searching for a 'wali' to brief on your behalf.......& only He can make dat easy.

To my questn can I move ahead on my aforementioned step******no wali here*******

Honestly I understand your feelings and such situations you are talking about. Afterall am part of this society and I've had certain experience and solve similar problem.

If a lady is a virgin and dependent of her parents/guardian, as far as Islam is concern, you can not approach her just like that. You go through the proper respective channel. If the lady is independent, then you are free to approach her. Situation where there's no guardian, parents, Imam or Amir of the environment, then you can approach but FEAR ALLAH for shaitan only need that very little chance to operate.

What is the reason why Islam is keen as to going through the channel of a wali or parents? Protection of both parties and the society.

Naturally, when you see / approach a woman, you don't know ANYTHING about her. Her apparent status only motivate and attract you. Her background and inner characteristic is only known to those closer to her. Likewise, she doesn't know you except for what is apparent which might be deceitful in either case. A situation whereby certain authority (parents, guardian, imam etc) is attached and aware, it create fear, responsibility and commitment in the heart of both parties.

Guardians/Parents know their child more than anybody else and according to the sharia, it is their responsibility to get a wife or accept a man's proposal for their child within his/her consent. Unfortunately, the reverse is the case today.

As per your own case, dear brother, if truly you want it in an Islamic manner, just as onegig suggested, look for an elderly and respected person (preferably an Imam or Amir of the society or school) and disclose your intention to him. The person will inturn invite the lady and have a chat with her. Please forget the idea of "am I not man enough to approach a lady etc".

He knows best. Peace be upon Muhammad and his progeny.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by yetunsbay(m): 9:08pm On Aug 01, 2014
AlBaqir:

Honestly I understand your feelings and such situations you are talking about. Afterall am part of this society and I've had certain experience and solve similar problem.

If a lady is a virgin and dependent of her parents/guardian, as far as Islam is concern, you can not approach her just like that. You go through the proper respective channel. If the lady is independent, then you are free to approach her. Situation where there's no guardian, parents, Imam or Amir of the environment, then you can approach but FEAR ALLAH for shaitan only need that very little chance to operate.

What is the reason why Islam is keen as to going through the channel of a wali or parents? Protection of both parties and the society.

Naturally, when you see / approach a woman, you don't know ANYTHING about her. Her apparent status only motivate and attract you. Her background and inner characteristic is only known to those closer to her. Likewise, she doesn't know you except for what is apparent which might be deceitful in either case. A situation whereby certain authority (parents, guardian, imam etc) is attached and aware, it create fear, responsibility and commitment in the heart of both parties.

Guardians/Parents know their child more than anybody else and according to the sharia, it is their responsibility to get a wife or accept a man's proposal for their child within his/her consent. Unfortunately, the reverse is the case today.

As per your own case, dear brother, if truly you want it in an Islamic manner, just as onegig suggested, look for an elderly and respected person (preferably an Imam or Amir of the society or school) and disclose your intention to him. The person will inturn invite the lady and have a chat with her. Please forget the idea of "am I not man enough to approach a lady etc".

He knows best. Peace be upon Muhammad and his progeny.
educative.....ma shaa Allah
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by yetunsbay(m): 12:03am On Aug 02, 2014
AlBaqir:

Honestly I understand your feelings and such situations you are talking about. Afterall am part of this society and I've had certain experience and solve similar problem.

If a lady is a virgin and dependent of her parents/guardian, as far as Islam is concern, you can not approach her just like that. You go through the proper respective channel. If the lady is independent, then you are free to approach her. Situation where there's no guardian, parents, Imam or Amir of the environment, then you can approach but FEAR ALLAH for shaitan only need that very little chance to operate.

What is the reason why Islam is keen as to going through the channel of a wali or parents? Protection of both parties and the society.

Naturally, when you see / approach a woman, you don't know ANYTHING about her. Her apparent status only motivate and attract you. Her background and inner characteristic is only known to those closer to her. Likewise, she doesn't know you except for what is apparent which might be deceitful in either case. A situation whereby certain authority (parents, guardian, imam etc) is attached and aware, it create fear, responsibility and commitment in the heart of both parties.

Guardians/Parents know their child more than anybody else and according to the sharia, it is their responsibility to get a wife or accept a man's proposal for their child within his/her consent. Unfortunately, the reverse is the case today.

As per your own case, dear brother, if truly you want it in an Islamic manner, just as onegig suggested, look for an elderly and respected person (preferably an Imam or Amir of the society or school) and disclose your intention to him. The person will inturn invite the lady and have a chat with her. Please forget the idea of "am I not man enough to approach a lady etc".

He knows best. Peace be upon Muhammad and his progeny.
So can I employ d service of Amir to test her relatioshp status
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:00pm On Aug 03, 2014
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tbaba1234: 8:54pm On Aug 03, 2014
^ Huge joke, I don't think they should be given any publicity.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:34pm On Aug 03, 2014
tbaba1234: ^ Huge joke, I don't think they should be given any publicity.
tbaba1234: ^ Huge joke, I don't think they should be given any publicity.

Bros, even though they are minority, never underestimate them. They have big guys promoting their cause. They irritate me a lot. Same in Canada and Ulama over there relunctantly condemned them (women leading prayer) alongside men for fear of being Iabelled something. I would imagine you have watched youtube videos of these women and homos muslims. It's real. Imam would say they are not ready to practice Sunnah. Remember they have been around for while. They gaining publicity gradually. Most Muslims wont give them publicity but media will.

They just trying hard to dilute the religion. The same "progressive muslim" who 4yrs ago stood by Bloomberg to increase spying efforts on us after CAIR withdrew their official support. If they dont see nothing wrong being Gay what else they cant do. Dont be suprised in the near future if 9ja drops anti-homo Bill. They use these folks to counter such measure.

Nurse Cassie & Her Muslim Patient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pWdCOFomnA&index=86&list=WL
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 10:58pm On Aug 04, 2014
Indeed It is a Restatement Of Islamic History

Imam Bukhari confirm the Literacy of the Holy Prophet

'Ubayd Allah b. Musa - Israil - Abu Ishaq - al-Bara, may Allah be pleased with him:

When the prophet, peace be upon him, intended to perform 'Umrah in the month of Dhi al-Qa'dah, the people of Makkah did not let him enter Makkah till he settled the matter with them by promising to stay in it for three days only. When they wrote the document (of treaty), they wrote: "These are the terms on which Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, agreed." They said, "We will not agree to this, for if we believed that you are the Messenger of Allah, we would not prevent you, but you are Muhammad b. 'Abd Allah." He said, "I am the Messenger of Allah and also Muhammad b. 'Abd Allah." Then, he said to 'Ali, "Rub off (the words) 'the Messenger of Allah." He ('Ali) replied, "No, by Allah, I will never rub you off." So, the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, took the document AND WROTE, "This is what Muhammad b. 'Abd Allah has agreed upon..."

Ref: Abu 'Abd Allah Muhammad b. Ismail b. Ibrahim b. Mughirah al-Bukhari al-Ju'fi, al-Jami al-Sahih al-Mukhtasar (Beirut: Dar Ibn Kathir; 3rd edition, 1407H) [annotator: Dr. Mustafa Dib al-Bagha], vol. 2 p. 960, no. 2552.

Imam Tabari in his "Tarikh al-Tabari" concluded the same version as above:
"It is not proper for him (the prophet) to write but HE WROTE"
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:52am On Aug 06, 2014
"Gold is tested with fire, and the believer is tested with trials"
~Imam Ali (as)
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:13am On Aug 07, 2014
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by sino(m): 9:47am On Aug 07, 2014
Running Orders: Lena Khalaf Tuffaha

They call us now.
Before they drop the bombs.
The phone rings
and someone who knows my first name
calls and says in perfect Arabic
“This is David.”
And in my stupor of sonic booms and glass shattering symphonies
still smashing around in my head
I think “Do I know any Davids in Gaza?”
They call us now to say
Run.
You have 58 seconds from the end of this message.
Your house is next.
They think of it as some kind of war time courtesy.
It doesn’t matter that
there is nowhere to run to.
It means nothing that the borders are closed
and your papers are worthless
and mark you only for a life sentence
in this prison by the sea
and the alleyways are narrow
and there are more human lives
packed one against the other
more than any other place on earth
Just run.
We aren’t trying to kill you.
It doesn’t matter that
you can’t call us back to tell us
the people we claim to want aren’t in your house
that there’s no one here
except you and your children
who were cheering for Argentina
sharing the last loaf of bread for this week
counting candles left in case the power goes out.
It doesn’t matter that you have children.
You live in the wrong place
and now is your chance to run
to nowhere.
It doesn’t matter
that 58 seconds isn’t long enough
to find your wedding album
or your son’s favorite blanket
or your daughter’s almost completed college application
or your shoes
or to gather everyone in the house.
It doesn’t matter what you had planned.
It doesn’t matter who you are
Prove you’re human.
Prove you stand on two legs.
Run.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by bntY: 11:00am On Aug 07, 2014
^Appalling!
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:49am On Aug 07, 2014
9ja power house in Abuja dont want to shake hands. Fear of Ebola... grin grin grin grin

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 5:28pm On Aug 07, 2014
Assalaamu alaikum everyone. I've been posted to Adamawa state, though orientation camp would be at Niger state.

I just thought to share with house. Opinions are welcome too smiley

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 10:35pm On Aug 07, 2014
Hkana: Assalaamu alaikum everyone. I've been posted to Adamawa state, though orientation camp would be at Niger state.

I just thought to share with house. Opinions are welcome too smiley
congrats bro. Stay safe and enjoy the drills. Post pics of the latest otondo in town lol.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by olawalebabs(m): 6:12am On Aug 08, 2014
Hkana: Assalaamu alaikum everyone. I've been posted to Adamawa state, though orientation camp would be at Niger state.

I just thought to share with house. Opinions are welcome too smiley
Allah's guidance will be with you throughout your stay in the state.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:29am On Aug 08, 2014
Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi issued a fatwa,
president of the International Union for Muslim Scholars, that he does not need nor religious duty to open the door of jihad in Palestine, now, stressing that God tested the patience stationed in the holy land.

al-Qaradawi, in remarks to the national media, called young Muslims to focus their efforts on jihad in Syria to liberate it from oppression and tyranny Bashar al-Assad, he said.

~Aljazeera (Arabic)
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by kazlaw2000: 7:32am On Aug 08, 2014
Hkana: Assalaamu alaikum everyone. I've been posted to Adamawa state, though orientation camp would be at Niger state.

I just thought to share with house. Opinions are welcome too smiley
Congrats brethen. You will have no problem inshaa Allaah
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:06am On Aug 08, 2014
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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 11:26am On Aug 08, 2014
When would people stop seeing this middle east crisis as a political and cultural one and stop whipping up religious sentiments? Hiding under the religious flag won't solve anything.

Apart from that we even greater problems bothering us here. I am tired of commenting continously on issues i have little or no control over and is clearly more ethnic and political than religious.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 6:03pm On Aug 08, 2014
Thank you Onegig, olawalebabs, kazlaw2000 and the entire house for the good spirited wishes.

Erm, onegig as per the pix; you know that thing about nairaland being anonymous.... Hehehe cheesy
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by onegig(m): 6:34pm On Aug 08, 2014
Hkana: Thank you Onegig, olawalebabs, kazlaw2000 and the entire house for the good spirited wishes.

Erm, onegig as per the pix; you know that thing about nairaland being anonymous.... Hehehe cheesy
ok. I understand.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:35am On Aug 09, 2014
[size=20pt]Let's Hear From Horse's Mouth[/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFVzEPtvu4k





Do You Agree With The Woman's View In The End?
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:38am On Aug 09, 2014
[size=20pt]Let's Hear From Horse's Mouth[/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9aQARe-Ftg









Do You Agree With Jews' Solution Version?
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:36am On Aug 11, 2014
Evil scholars are the greatest helpers of Satan.
Pharaoh of Egypt spent hundreds of years but failed to make the Israelites worshipped something other than God but it took a scholar(Samiri) among them just a few days to convinced them to worship Calf.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:23am On Aug 14, 2014
[size=20pt]Small Little Girl Reacts To Beautiful Azan [/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xjY5RQbLaE

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by sino(m): 9:21pm On Aug 14, 2014
^^^Cute little girl...
Loved her reaction to the adhan, i think she was astonished...

I know quite a number of non-Muslims who are fascinated by the recitation of the Qur'an and also, the call to prayer

May Allah continue to guide us all, ameen.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:40am On Aug 15, 2014
[size=20pt]BIDA'AH MAN[/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1j0LBKkUl4

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