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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by 3sha4lyf: 10:52am On Jul 02, 2014
First of all, people amaze me when they insult the poster. The title of the thread ASKS a question... "IS IT TIME...?
All y'all needed do was answer yes or no and give reasons not insulting the poster and not even having any contribution to make towards the post. I see so many immature empty minds on NairaLand...

Next, I think we need to understand the verity of trad marriages. While they are potent in their own standings, the concept of bride price has been nicely laced with bitter "wedding rites list" that MUST be provided by the groom before the bride price is accepted. What sense is it to say "I'm giving you this piece of land for free but you must do so-so-so-and-so and pay up to 25Million for the land to be yours"? Bride price is 2kobo yet the list of things for the rites include cost of 1% of CBN. It's tradition but it has to be revisited, maybe NOT abolished.

Also, ppl should remember that ppl reverend their religion, be it traditional, Christianity, moslemic (if ders a word like that) etc. So please don't expect a pastor to come say the grace over a trad wedding, the same way u won't expect igwe, Oba or sultan to come and give trad rites at a church wedding ... Oh yes, pls people should stop taking white wedding for its name. I wanna think that it's actually Church/Christian wedding but done with the bride wearing white, not necessarily that it's the white man's tradition.

Again, each leader needs to respect the other's authority. If I do Church wedding, my people should respect I'm now legally married. If I do traditional wedding, my church community eg pastor, should respect that I'm married and can now live in union with my spouse as a married couple. Likewise if I do court. Mind y'all, Jesus attended a traditional wedding at Cana. That's true, but that was the only type of marriage existing den. Also remember that before then, God conducted a garden wedding in Eden. That was the only type of marriage then, maybe.

So if our culture says we gasto do at least two of them, I think what should be checked is the greed-factor in all of them. Guess every institution, pastor o, chief o, court Marshall o, they all get some money from each marriages else they won't bother if a couple decides to do other forms of marriage.

That's my take.

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by solelymade: 10:54am On Jul 02, 2014
May I also add dat d bride price(most times an insignificant sum) in most cases is returned back to the couples in the SW and wen not returned is shared amongst all family members of d bride along with the other items brought along 4 d marriage rite and a confirmation of the family's support for the union. Anyone not in support of the union does not partake in the sharing of the lot. Thus, after collection and blessings, it is the collective responsibility of all individuals that partook of the sharing to see to resolution of any conflict and confusion that may arise in the new home and also the celebration of its successes. And 4 dos saying it's the reason the husband maltreat his wife, kindly accept u married d weird person. I fit pay 100billion 4 my wife.
But abeg make una dey pity d groom sha

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by solelymade: 11:01am On Jul 02, 2014
3sha4lyf: First of all, people amaze me when they insult the poster. The title of the thread ASKS a question... "IS IT TIME...?
All y'all needed do was answer yes or no and give reasons not insulting the poster and not even having any contribution to make towards the post. I see so many immature empty minds on NairaLand...

Next, I think we need to understand the verity of trad marriages. While they are potent in their own standings, the concept of bride price has been nicely laced with bitter "wedding rites list" that MUST be provided by the groom before the bride price is accepted. What sense is it to say "I'm giving you this piece of land for free but you must do so-so-so-and-so and pay up to 25Million for the land to be yours"? Bride price is 2kobo yet the list of things for the rites include cost of 1% of CBN. It's tradition but it has to be revisited, maybe NOT abolished.

Also, ppl should remember that ppl reverend their religion, be it traditional, Christianity, moslemic (if ders a word like that) etc. So please don't expect a pastor to come say the grace over a trad wedding, the same way u won't expect igwe, Oba or sultan to come and give trad rites at a church wedding ... Oh yes, pls people should stop taking white wedding for its name. I wanna think that it's actually Church/Christian wedding but done with the bride wearing white, not necessarily that it's the white man's tradition.

Again, each leader needs to respect the other's authority. If I do Church wedding, my people should respect I'm now legally married. If I do traditional wedding, my church community eg pastor, should respect that I'm married and can now live in union with my spouse as a married couple. Likewise if I do court. Mind y'all, Jesus attended a traditional wedding at Cana. That's true, but that was the only type of marriage existing den. Also remember that before then, God conducted a garden wedding in Eden. That was the only type of marriage then, maybe.

So if our culture says we gasto do at least two of them, I think what should be checked is the greed-factor in all of them. Guess every institution, pastor o, chief o, court Marshall o, they all get some money from each marriages else they won't bother if a couple decides to do other forms of marriage.

That's my take.
I doubt your comprehension skills.

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by lakunle1love(m): 11:16am On Jul 02, 2014
DesChyko: Rather, the exhorbitant demand should be hashed.
But the traditional rites should not be scrapped for any reasons. It's our identity.
Or, would we rather trade this for the traditions of others.
How do muslims wed, by the way?

Bros no offense meant but Google is ur friend

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by 3sha4lyf: 11:16am On Jul 02, 2014
solelymade:
I doubt your comprehension skills.

Thanks... You are entitled to doubt mine especially if yours is weak as well.

Tx once again. smiley
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by solelymade: 11:23am On Jul 02, 2014
3sha4lyf:

Thanks... You are entitled to doubt mine especially if yours is weak as well.

Tx once again. smiley
Honestly bros, ur post was great but inappropriate 4 d op's passage if u choose to dissect it properly . No malices intended
Gracais
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by 3sha4lyf: 11:26am On Jul 02, 2014
solelymade: May I also add dat d bride price(most times an insignificant sum) in most cases is returned back to the couples in the SW and wen not returned is shared amongst all family members of d bride along with the other items brought along 4 d marriage rite and a confirmation of the family's support for the union. Anyone not in support of the union does not partake in the sharing of the lot. Thus, after collection and blessings, it is the collective responsibility of all individuals that partook of the sharing to see resolution of any conflict and confusion that may arise in the new home and also the celebration of it successes. And 4 dos saying it's the reason the husband maltreat his wife, kindly accept u married d weird person. I fit pay 100billion 4 my wife.
But abeg make una dey pity d groom sha

Very true... Whosoever shares in the bride price should be ready to resolve conflicts ahead, if any. But I hope they really do. Ehm... 100billion? Ok I get the point... 100billion = I can do ANYTHING for my wife. (cos that 100 billion, hmmmm. Even ur wife go vex sef say you pay that money away instead of giving it to her, since ur Om'ego 1). Hehehe
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by mezebel(f): 11:28am On Jul 02, 2014
Anugod: In my place, we don't accept bride price.
The husband to be and his people will take a covered bowl of kolanuts to the elders (with money placed on top of the kolanuts). The elders will call the bride to be and ask her if they are permitted to eat the kolanuts, because if they do, the marriage is sealed as they cannot vomit the swallowed kolanuts.
However, they return the money because they do not wish to sell their daughter.
bride price in my place is naira talati,,,hausa land good o!

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by adekennis(m): 11:30am On Jul 02, 2014
Lol..Bad guy cheesy

shaggy007:

An article that focuses on tarnishing an age-long tradition, is a VERY VERY VERY useless article. And any local that is in support (fully or remotely) of eradicating his tradition is an 1mbec1le.

So since you are in support of that bull5h1t, than you are a limited edition 1mbec1le

Now, which tribe in Nigetia had the most number of 1mbec1les? Igbo? Hausa? Yoruba?

I guess it's the Hausas.

Now what are the Hausas called in Nigeria?

Lemme guess...hmmm...I think it's ABOKI!

Don't deceive yourself that you're not an ABOKI. it's in your blood. Go and ask your parents to reveal where you were adopted cos they didn't give birth to you.

If it talks like an ABOKI, and thinks like an ABOKI....what is it?

So, my ABOKI friend, kindly shine my shoe till it can shine no more.

I'll pay N20 per shoe.
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by solelymade: 11:30am On Jul 02, 2014
3sha4lyf:

Very true... Whosoever shares in the bride price should be ready to resolve conflicts ahead, if any. But I hope they really do. Ehm... 100billion? Ok I get the point... 100billion = I can do ANYTHING for my wife. (cos that 100 billion, hmmmm. Even ur wife go vex sef say you pay that money away instead of giving it to her, since ur Om'ego 1). Hehehe
We're gud man
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by chucky234(m): 11:32am On Jul 02, 2014
shaggy007:

An article that focuses on tarnishing an age-long tradition, is a VERY VERY VERY useless article. And any local that is in support (fully or remotely) of eradicating his tradition is an 1mbec1le.

So since you are in support of that bull5h1t, than you are a limited edition 1mbec1le

Now, which tribe in Nigetia had the most number of 1mbec1les? Igbo? Hausa? Yoruba?

I guess it's the Hausas.

Now what are the Hausas called in Nigeria?

Lemme guess...hmmm...I think it's ABOKI!

Don't deceive yourself that you're not an ABOKI. it's in your blood. Go and ask your parents to reveal where you were adopted cos they didn't give birth to you.

If it talks like an ABOKI, and thinks like an ABOKI....what is it?

So, my ABOKI friend, kindly shine my shoe till it can shine no more.

I'll pay N20 per shoe.
It is a total waste of time exchanging word with deluded chronic goon with no sense of reasoning, you are far way dumber than I thought.
By the way only uneducated kuli-kuli hawking Aboki would regard CHUCK as an Hausa name, your case is a lost one.
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by 3sha4lyf: 11:35am On Jul 02, 2014
solelymade:
Honestly bros, ur post was great but inappropriate 4 d op's passage if u choose to dissect it properly . No malices intended
Gracais

Easy dear, I just tried to "sit on the fence" concerning the poster's issue. I don't agree to abolishing trad weddings, because it's our culture. What I suggest is a "continuos check and balance" on the traditional wedding routine because people use it as a money-making event. I may be wrong as well
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by justinbravo: 11:42am On Jul 02, 2014
Its amazing how such a misplaced idea can make it to the front page,the traditional marriage ceremony is one of the last cultural heritage still in play today and I don't see any problem with it. Maybe the thread owner no get better things to think of and his comprehension skills should seriously be doubted,he should have thought about the following before wasting all our time trying to screw back the loose nut in his HEAD.
1. How does it affect the price of garri in the market
2. Does it bring back our girls
3. Does it make the monies removed from fuel subsidy into Sure-p account not enter the private pocket of our leaders.
4. Does it reduce Corruption, Bribery, Injustice, Inequality,Social rife prevalent in our society today.
5. Does it stop Boko-Haram from killing thousands of our brothers and Sisters.
And finally...
6. Will it stop GEJ from winning 2015 presidential elections.

We should spend our time trying to preserve our culture and work towards cultural diversification and social integration.
God bless Nigeria
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by shaggy007(m): 11:43am On Jul 02, 2014
chucky234: It is a total waste of time exchanging word with deluded chronic goon with no sense of reasoning, you are far way dumber than I thought.
By the way only uneducated kuli-kuli hawking Aboki would regard CHUCK as an Hausa name, your case is a lost one.

Who told you your name is chuck? Deceive yourself. Read what I wrote again (the part with the red font)

shaggy007:

An article that focuses on tarnishing an age-long tradition, is a VERY VERY VERY useless article. And any local that is in support (fully or remotely) of eradicating his tradition is an 1mbec1le.

So since you are in support of that bull5h1t, than you are a limited edition 1mbec1le

Now, which tribe in Nigetia had the most number of 1mbec1les? Igbo? Hausa? Yoruba?

I guess it's the Hausas.

Now what are the Hausas called in Nigeria?

Lemme guess...hmmm...I think it's ABOKI!

Don't deceive yourself that you're not an ABOKI. it's in your blood. Go and ask your parents to reveal where you were adopted cos they didn't give birth to you.

If it talks like an ABOKI, and thinks like an ABOKI....what is it?

So, my ABOKI friend, kindly shine my shoe till it can shine no more.

I'll pay N20 per shoe.

Chuck my a55...

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:58am On Jul 02, 2014
sebyluv: This is sooooo true. I don't think d traditional rites shud b necessary anymore. If we have decided to embrace d xtian or muslim religion as most of us have, den our religious rite shud b enuf. it doesn't even make sense dat after d trad, couples r still not allowed by dr churches to have sex until dey r wedded in church. Away with all ds Senseless Trad rites and on with our Simple Church weddings.

Bleep YOU BA.stard. angry

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:00pm On Jul 02, 2014
[size=18pt]OP GODS' CURSE ON YOU!
DAN BANZA! SHEGE!

TUFIAKWA!


I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM ARE JUST A PLOY TO DESTROY ALL OUR CULTURES!!


THEY WONT STOP AT ELIMINATING WHAT LITTLE WE HAVE.[/size] angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:03pm On Jul 02, 2014
[size=18pt]THIS THREAD IS JUST PROPAGANDA TO DESTROY OUR TRIBES AND CULTURES!

TRIBES ARE MEANT TO MARRY WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE TRIBES OR RELATED ETHNIC GROUPS.

OP WAT NEXT? YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE OUR TRADITIONAL LANGUAGES, RELIGIONS AND CULTURES?[/size] angry angry angry angry
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:05pm On Jul 02, 2014
[size=18pt]MODERNITY AND PROGRESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INTERBREEDING AND DESTROYING CULTURE!

LOOK @ ASIA! THAT IS CALLED TRUE PROGRESS!..


NOT WESTERN PROGRESS REGRESS THAT INVOLVES BREAKDOWN OF TRIBE , FAMILY VALUES, MORALS AND CULTURE.



OUR CULTURE IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT NOW. AND YOU ARE INTENT UPON STEALING THAT AWAY FROM US ALSO?[/size] angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:10pm On Jul 02, 2014
fejeerow: The only thing i critize abt traditional marriage is about when those village people starts demanding for ridiculous amount of money from d husband..them wan open market for our head....that s not far to me o...abi them want make my husband run? Anyways, i still love traditional marriage.....i respect my culture alot grin

now ur husband can also have his pay-day @ someone else wedding. . wink
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jul 02, 2014
ITbomb: Rubbish, instead let's fine a way and stop white wedding, after the traditional wedding, the priest or Pastor should pray for the couple at the reception then they go and get registered at the court.

Ur a very big fool. Someone is making a very good point and u hav d guts to call it 'rubbish'. Ur a very very big fool! U have very low and poor thinking. Shame on you.
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:11pm On Jul 02, 2014
[size=18pt]ONLY AN AFRICAN WITH LOW-ESTEEM CAN COOK UP SOMETHING LIKE THIS!

NO ASIAN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL EVER EVEN IMAGINE SUCH A THINKING.

I SPIT ON THIS THREAD.[/size]

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:18pm On Jul 02, 2014
shaggy007:

An article that focuses on tarnishing an age-long tradition, is a VERY VERY VERY useless article. And any local that is in support (fully or remotely) of eradicating his tradition is an 1mbec1le.

So since you are in support of that bull5h1t, than you are a limited edition 1mbec1le

Now, which tribe in Nigetia had the most number of 1mbec1les? Igbo? Hausa? Yoruba?

I guess it's the Hausas.

Now what are the Hausas called in Nigeria?

Lemme guess...hmmm...I think it's ABOKI!

Don't deceive yourself that you're not an ABOKI. it's in your blood. Go and ask your parents to reveal where you were adopted cos they didn't give birth to you.

If it talks like an ABOKI, and thinks like an ABOKI....what is it?

So, my ABOKI friend, kindly shine my shoe till it can shine no more.

I'll pay N20 per shoe.

Please dont unnecessairly insult my tribe. angry

We have culture ok.
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by durella4(m): 12:22pm On Jul 02, 2014
[quote
author=mencade5]abeg i will like to come and marry in your place ooo. So
many tribes in nigeria her selling their daughters from N200,000 to N5
million in that range in benue state and some south south and south
eastern state.

Please are you available[/quote]


U love free tinkz 2 much.
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by chucky234(m): 12:37pm On Jul 02, 2014
shaggy007:

Who told you your name is chuck? Deceive yourself. Read what I wrote again (the part with the red font)



Chuck my a55...
Half baked uncircumcised dimwit.
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by Nobody: 12:42pm On Jul 02, 2014
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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by Vikthor(m): 12:43pm On Jul 02, 2014
Anugod: In my place, we don't accept bride price.
The husband to be and his people will take a covered bowl of kolanuts to the elders (with money placed on top of the kolanuts). The elders will call the bride to be and ask her if they are permitted to eat the kolanuts, because if they do, the marriage is sealed as they cannot vomit the swallowed kolanuts.
However, they return the money because they do not wish to sell their daughter.

Where are u from sweety?
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by shaggy007(m): 12:45pm On Jul 02, 2014
chucky234: Half baked uncircumcised dimwit.

Fully baked circumcised a55hole...

By the way, I have a room full of shoes for you.

Get busy boy...I want to stay shiny!

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by shaggy007(m): 12:54pm On Jul 02, 2014
PAGAN 9JA:


Please dont unnecessairly insult my tribe. angry

We have culture ok.

Ok. I have edited it.

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by cyntiathis: 12:56pm On Jul 02, 2014
Rubbish, Op and his/her supporters must be outcasts. It is only a fool that sees tradition as an outdated habit

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Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by Johnnoo(m): 1:00pm On Jul 02, 2014
Scyllapatron: senseless thread..

Man...that's her opinion, respect it wink
Re: Africa: Is It Time To Put An End To Traditional Wedding Rites? by lawkenoz(m): 1:04pm On Jul 02, 2014
3sha4lyf:

Easy dear, I just tried to "sit on the fence" concerning the poster's issue. I don't agree to abolishing trad weddings, because it's our culture. What I suggest is a "continuos check and balance" on the traditional wedding routine because people use it as a money-making event. I may be wrong as well
Where you got it wrong bro was where you said the white wedding isn't a white mans thing, claiming its a christian thing. You obviously don't know history, Christianity isn't culture and did not create the white weddings.
Marriage is an agreed union between couples (family members inclusive), you got it right when u said Jesus attended a traditional wedding ceremony, but not because it was what was attainable then. Marriage is carried out in different modalities by different cultures, religion only comes into marriage based on how a husband and wife should treat each other after being married by their cultural standards e.g husband love your wife, wife love your and be sub missive to your husband. It doesn't dictate on how marriage should be carried out or performed, traditions are responsible for that.
The white wedding is the white mans way of doing marriage, they started practising xtainity early so as a result adopted their marital pattern into it. On bringing the religion to africa they also brought that style of wedding to us, trust our girls as usual, because of the reception show off they fell in love with it head over heels.
A pastor should attend the traditional union of his members and bless them there if need be. Only If your religious enough to want to do a white wedding then its your choice, but mind you its not a Christian wedding! Its a white mans wedding. The presence of the pastor there is just to bless and bear witness to the union as a man of God! He could do the same in a traditional wedding!

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