JuanDeDios:
Been wondering. Is Badmus English, Muslim or Yoruba?

gatiano:
names like buhari, fatai, bakare, abubakar, Muhammad, karriem, Yusuf, Lawal, Ismaili, Kabiru, Yakubu e t c, people think that they are gotten from the arabs through slavery and what not, Wrong- we gave arabs their names.

Names like Pedro, da-silva, salvadore, Alfonso, e tc are all original black people's name and they are all Muslims. this are the names of the original moors that civilized europe. Spanish is a moors language.

All the african name are all derived from this arabic names/middle eastern name, it sound different but they are of the same meaning. They are names of the book of life.

Islam was not brought to us by no white skin arab, we gave Islam to them to give them a civilization. christianity is not ours, we have nothing to do with that. Jesus was not a christian. Jesus grew up in Egypt amongst black people, that is why in Africa, we were so quick to accept him. Jesus is also amongst name like Pedro, Alfonso, Da-silva etc. Jesus De Pandera was a son of Joseph De Pandera.

names like Johnson, moore, griffin, etc are meaningless and are not by any means from the black people.

walexy30:


Who are you to give Islam to Arabs? What do those names like Fatai & co mean in Yoruba?

I know you have been indoctrinated by the Arabs, we have our names peculiar to us only e.g Ayinde, Olamide, Ajibade, Akande Oriyomi. These are names whose meanings are known to any Yoruba.

Dhugal:

Gbadamosi has no meaning in Yoruba,it is the Yorubanized version of northern Badamasi,which itself is borrowed from Badmus or the Arabic version of it.

Radoillo:

This is what I suspected. Thank you.

omonnakoda:

Lah in arabic simply means god while Al means The ,
Al lah means The God which is a suggestion that Allah is The Main God . This is a pure linguistic point and I do not hereby express any opinion on religion
Before Mohammed in Mecca there were many lahs(gods) and Mohammed came with his teaching that there is only one god TheGod =Allah

gatiano:
Without a doubt, we all know Jesus spoke the aramiac language. And the aramaic word for God is Alah and even Alaha.

According to wiki via google: It is generally agreed that Jesus and his disciples primarily spoke Aramaic, the common language of Judea in the first century AD, most likely a Galilean dialect distinguishable from that of Jerusalem.[1] The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum in Galilee, where Jesus spent most of his time, were Aramaic-speaking communities.[2]

Another wiki source- The Jewish Palestinian Aramaic, also called Judean Aramaic and Galilean Aramaic, was a Western Aramaic language spoken by the Jews in Roman and Byzantine Palestine in the early first millennium. The language is very much similar to Hebrew, and is notable for being that spoken by Jesus (see Language of Jesus).[2]

The question now is what is the Aramiac word for God?

Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/;[1] Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤˈlˤɑːh] ( listen)) is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh, literally "the God".[2][3][4] The word has cognates in other Semitic languages, [b]including Elah in Aramaic, ʾĒl in Canaanite and Elohim in Hebrew.[5][6][/b]
They have changed it a little, It used to be Alah.

Elohim is a group of Blackmen and Blackwomen(God) whose head or leader is Yahweh from Yahwehu. Each of them can be called Eloah.
The full meaning of Yahweh is Ya-Ba-Hwehu which simply mean Emperor of the non-black race.

Go read and do research. Arabic preceeded Aramaic, they both Preceeded Hebrew or Canaanite language of today. The oldest languages are all in Africa, yet are not the first or the second 12 languages which are also from Black people.

Dhugal:

Arabic preceeded Aramaic............truly,you're lost.
As to your other gibberish.....can't deal this morning

Dhugal:
You're welcome

Radoillo:


Although one must add that it doesn't seem that the Arabs have a name like Badmus or Badamasi. My guess is that the original Arabic name has been Africanized beyond recognition.

The second part of the name though (-amasi) sounds like it's Arabic original was al-Masri, meaning 'the Egyptian' and used in the Arab world as a name.

Dhugal:

Arabic preceeded Aramaic............truly,you're lost.
As to your other gibberish.....can't deal this morning

Radoillo:


Although one must add that it doesn't seem that the Arabs have a name like Badmus or Badamasi. My guess is that the original Arabic name has been Africanized beyond recognition.

The second part of the name though (-amasi) sounds like it's Arabic original was al-Masri, meaning 'the Egyptian' and used in the Arab world as a name.

gatiano:
It is Obadimu. Obadimu- "O" and "I" were removed and "S" was added. That is Badmus. The question is why are names changed this way? For what Purpose?

Radoillo:


Why do you think the name is strictly of Yoruba origin? It occurs in variations within the Yoruba-Nupe-Hausa cluster.

Another clue to its possible origin is to study its occurrence within Yorubaland. For example, does it occur more in areas of Yorubaland that are more islamised than other areas of Yorubaland? Does it occur more in Yoruba families with a Muslim background (even if now they have been converted to Christianity)?

If the answers are 'Yes', then it could strengthen the case for a possible Arabic origin for the name.

Radoillo:


Why do you think the name is strictly of Yoruba origin? It occurs in variations within the Yoruba-Nupe-Hausa cluster.

Another clue to its possible origin is to study its occurrence within Yorubaland. For example, does it occur more in areas of Yorubaland that are more islamised than other areas of Yorubaland? Does it occur more in Yoruba families with a Muslim background (even if now they have been converted to Christianity)?

If the answers are 'Yes', then it could strengthen the case for a possible Arabic origin for the name.

Radoillo:


Why do you think the name is strictly of Yoruba origin? It occurs in variations within the Yoruba-Nupe-Hausa cluster.

Another clue to its possible origin is to study its occurrence within Yorubaland. For example, does it occur more in areas of Yorubaland that are more islamised than other areas of Yorubaland? Does it occur more in Yoruba families with a Muslim background (even if now they have been converted to Christianity)?

If the answers are 'Yes', then it could strengthen the case for a possible Arabic origin for the name.

Dhugal:

Not to forget the fact that the Obadimu he keeps harping on is actually Obadiyimu,nowhere close to Badmus.
Another variant of Badmus I've come across is Bademosi,a la Deji Bademosi(formerly Badmus) of Channels Tv that time.Despite the attempt at domestication,Bademosi sounds closer to Badamasi much more than Badmus.

Radoillo:


I think my earlier 'Egyptian' guess was wrong. I looked around a little and found an Arabic name that might fit. 'Abdalmasih' which means 'servant of the messiah'.

The name still presents an enigma though, since it is an Arab Christian and not an Arab Muslim name. If it is the source of Badamasi, then it must have been introduced by Egyptian Copts.

gatiano:
Could "IFA" be "EPHOD"? the non-blacks took and retranslate
IMISI-IYE --- (I)MISI- (I)YE--- MISIYE-- MESSIA---MESSIAH. IMISI Means BREATH, IYE means EXISTENCE. If that is the case, Emusan is not confused.
IRUNMOLE--- IMOLE/IMALE/UMOLE---- MALA'K(singular) MALAKIM(plural) in Judaism and MALAKAH IN Islam
(Yemitom)

Radoillo:


I really do appreciate your perspective on black/non-black relations in history. Of course, most of the time (if not all of the time) I find myself having to disagree.

Radoillo:


I think my earlier 'Egyptian' guess was wrong. I looked around a little and found an Arabic name that might fit. 'Abdalmasih' which means 'servant of the messiah'.

The name still presents an enigma though, since it is an Arab Christian and not an Arab Muslim name. If it is the source of Badamasi, then it must have been introduced by Egyptian Copts.

omonnakoda:

Lah in arabic simply means god while Al means The ,
Al lah means The God which is a suggestion that Allah is The Main God . This is a pure linguistic point and I do not hereby express any opinion on religion
Before Mohammed in Mecca there were many lahs(gods) and Mohammed came with his teaching that there is only one god TheGod =Allah

MetaPhysical:
Excuse my rambling but im going to be all over the place before i address the topic. The reason is because i believe life is a story, it works well when fed in meaty narrative, as opposed to skeletal chronicle entries.


Everywhere on the planet people can be divided along names adopted from lineage of conquerors.

Exceptions are East Asians. They dropped their conquerors names and went back to using their indigeneous names and languages.

The lineages are -
Arab
English
French
Spanish

These lineages can be categorized into -
Arab
European.

In certain places people have lost their indigeneous names and all they have left for identity is Arabized or Europeaned names.

These two categories of name lineage also correspond closely with universal terrorism. Those who frighten and kill others to force their ideology on them.

Everywhere in the world, names adopted from these murderers appear in variations that feature in the local tongue.

A lot of controversy has popped up lately arguing the Yoruba case against Arab, whether in name or word expressions. Did Arab donate to Yoruba, or was Yoruba the donor to Arab?

Let's examine the Yoruba name Apata for instance. It means Rock. It serves as attribute of one who is dependable for support....someone to lean on, a pillar of strength.

Then in Bible its equivalent is Peter.

Did Yoruba donate to Bible or was Apata a Yorubanized feature of Peter?

I have encountered someone with first name Peter and surname Apata. I looked at his form and looked up at him in disbelief...wondering in my mind if this individual knew that by writing Peter Apata, he just gave his name as "Peter Peter" or " Apata Apata".


Let me return to Yoruba and Arabic.

I like what Rodeillo said somewhere on this thread that Gbadamosi must have derived from Badamasi which took origin from Badmas, which in turn was culled from Abdulmasih. He attributed its origin to Egyptian Copts.

Not all names in Arabic are Islamic.

Many people need to be instructed on this as only few have the knowledge to trace name roots.

The Arabic name Abubakar is bear by Muslims. This name existed before Muhammed introduced Islam.

His uncle, a leader of the Koreish tribe, was named Abubakar. The Koreish were guardians of Kaaba, the shrine in which they worshipped their deity gods.

In Yoruba deity gods are called Orisha.

Compare Koreish and Orisha.

The name Abubakar is Bakare in Yoruba.

If Abubakar was a leader of his people he would also have been a Priest of the Orishas.

Many ancient words have been lost in Yoruba but the word Akarigbo remains with us. Its a title now amongst the Ijebus. Amongst the Chiefs in Lagos there is Akarigbere.

Could Abubakar in Arab Orisha worshippers have been same as Yoruba Orisha adherents of Akarigbo?

Compare Abubakar to Abobakarigbo.

Where was the genesis of Abubakar, in Yoruba....or in Arab?


Where was genesis of Gbadamosi, in Yoruba....or in Arab?



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