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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 12:33pm On Dec 03, 2014
Demdem:
I Av no issues with oby, but the question is how many votes can she pull? 2015 is going to be about numbers and having someone on the ticket that won't be able to bring in the numbers to defeat the incompetent incumbent will be catastrophic.

why wont Oby Oby bring in votes when most of the APC supporters in the SW/north are progresives who d no mind religious and tribal sentiments? at least that is what you people made us to beleive.

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 12:36pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


why wont Oby Oby bring in votes when most of the APC supporters in the SW/north are progresives who d no mind religious and tribal sentiments? at least that is what you people made us to beleive.

The question you should rather ask yourself is how many votes can Oby garner for APC from Christians in the SS & SE?

You are not ready to vote for her...but you want her on the ticket.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 12:38pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


It's not about depleting APC vote ( which can happen anyway) but the value her coming into the ticket will bring....

You considerations here are religion....tribe and gender.

How many votes can each of those considerations come up with.? I doubt if they can be more than couple of thousands.

I don't think APC should play into the hands of those that want to force it away from a combination that will bring it most votes.

In otherwords Yorubas will not vote for APC if a YORUBA CANDIDATE is not on the ticket!!!! SO much for change.I always knew the criticism against GEJ were mainly from tribal/religious sentiments.Thank you for confirming it

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 12:40pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


The question you should rather ask yourself is how many votes can Oby garner for APC from Christians in the SS & SE?

You are not ready to vote for her...but you want her on the ticket.

I thought you apc people told us you dont need vote from the SS/SE to win the elctions so why are you expecting the SE/SS to vote for her? is it no longer the progressive change you want? so your goal al this while is just to position a yoruba VP to take over from GMB in case another yaradua occurs
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Demdem(m): 12:54pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


why wont Oby Oby bring in votes when most of the APC supporters in the SW/north are progresives who d no mind religious and tribal sentiments? at least that is what you people made us to beleive.

Ibofool, u are missing the point. Oby is from SE and the bulk of ur people where she ought to secure significant votes have already sworn their loyalty to the current drunkard in aso rock.
Besides, what's ur business with this? Even if she is the flagbearer u will still not vote her. Abegi stop wasting my time.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 12:59pm On Dec 03, 2014
Demdem:


Ibofool, u are missing the point. Oby is from SE and the bulk of ur people where she ought to secure significant votes have already sworn their loyalty to the current drunkard in aso rock.
Besides, what's ur business with this? Even if she is the flagbearer u will still not vote her. Abegi stop wasting my time.
since the SE people are not progressive what stops the progressve people of the SW from voting the APC party irrespective of the tribe the vp comes from? Una see una sef.yet you want us to vote a muslim-muslim ticket and a yoruba VP SMH for your hypocrisy.

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 1:09pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


In otherwords Yorubas will not vote for APC if a YORUBA CANDIDATE is not on the ticket!!!! SO much for change.I always knew the criticism against GEJ were mainly from tribal/religious sentiments.Thank you for confirming it

stop accusing me of this kind of nonsense...I don't roll with such sentiment.

I asked you a question, how many of you from the SE SS will vote for Oby on the APC ticket and you are writing balderdash....

You can't have your cake and eat it.......you all can be sworn and be beholden to GEJ and PDP and you expect to reap bountifully in another party where you did not sow.

In politics...you reap where you sow and where you have demonstrated LOYALTY.....if Yorubas have sown into APC....it's only natural if they ask to reap there.

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 1:10pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


[s]I thought you apc people told us you dont need vote from the SS/SE to win the elctions so why are you expecting the SE/SS to vote for her? is it no longer the progressive change you want? so your goal al this while is just to position a yoruba VP to take over from GMB in case another yaradua occurs[/s]

Foolish remark.

Can you talk like adult please?.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by truefact: 1:10pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


In otherwords Yorubas will not vote for APC if a YORUBA CANDIDATE is not on the ticket!!!! SO much for change.I always knew the criticism against GEJ were mainly from tribal/religious sentiments.Thank you for confirming it

Even from afar, I have always know the all the hates are tribal, especially against the Igbos. ..believe me..anything that work against Igbo interest will always be welcome by other Nigerians
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Demdem(m): 1:17pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:

since the SE people are not progressive what stops the progressve people of the SW from voting the APC party irrespective of the tribe the vp comes from? Una see una sef.yet you want us to vote a muslim-muslim ticket and a yoruba VP SMH for your hypocrisy.

Ibofool, some SE peeps are progressives no doubt. The question is why do ur kind want to reap where u have not sown? Irrespective of where the candidates come from, SW will surely vote for such and if such comes from amongst them, they will even vote enmasse in larger numbers.
Since the elections will be about numbers, it's advisable to put forward those that will bring the most numbers.
Ibofool, so u see, this isn't hypocrisy but excellent political calculations.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by lilflipnerd: 1:32pm On Dec 03, 2014
The Performance of a Nation lies on the FG (The team) not only d Presidency
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Kutunban: 1:39pm On Dec 03, 2014
Its so pathetic that your opinion is based on tribalism and religious bigotry, which you claim is not the yard stick for this inconsequential post of yours. Mind you the performing governors you mentioned are products of PDP.

May I enlighten you, the Buhari you APC always refer to as her candidate shows how corrupt it will be and biased its going to be if opportune to win 2015 election. There are other Presidential aspirants in APC that bought the same form with GMB, but APC always make them third class candidates, even the facts the parties primaries has not yet taken place. Not my business anyway.

Talking of bringing a woman from the South east to divide GEJ votes its just a fantasy you are drunk with, because using a south east woman to deceive the region shows how gullible the APC will be because I believe the Igbo people are smarter than you think.

My advice for APC is to chill and re-strategies for 2019 because seriously ASO ROCK will be occupied by GEJ 2015
Insha Allah

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by orimsamsam(m): 2:02pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:

since the SE people are not progressive what stops the progressve people of the SW from voting the APC party irrespective of the tribe the vp comes from? Una see una sef.yet you want us to vote a muslim-muslim ticket and a yoruba VP SMH for your hypocrisy.
. I can tell u southwest is nt clouded by tribal sentiment
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 2:14pm On Dec 03, 2014
If PDP condemned a GMB/BRF ticket, then it's the best. I'm a Christian from the North Central, but I'd vote a Prophet Muhammad/Bin Ladin ticket if it would defeat PDPgrin . PDP is more evil than the devil himself.

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by londoner: 2:32pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


stop accusing me of this kind of nonsense...I don't roll with such sentiment.

I asked you a question, how many of you from the SE SS will vote for Oby on the APC ticket and you are writing balderdash....

You can't have your cake and eat it.......you all can be sworn and be beholden to GEJ and PDP and you expect to reap bountifully in another party where you did not sow.

In politics...you reap where you sow and where you have demonstrated LOYALTY.....if Yorubas have sown into APC....it's only natural if they ask to reap there.

So basically, the Igbos have sown into PDP and want to reap there, right?

Using your logic, you should have no problem with Igbos 'loyalty' to the idea of voting PDP, then?
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 2:38pm On Dec 03, 2014
londoner:


So basically, the Igbos have sown into PDP and want to reap there, right?

Using your logic, you should have no problem with Igbos 'loyalty' to the idea of voting PDP, then?

You reap what and where you sow.....it's a law of nature.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by londoner: 2:58pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


You reap what and where you sow.....it's a law of nature.

So, you don't have any issue with Igbo loyalty to PDP then, since they have "sown" there rather than with APC?

If I get you right, thats exactly what you are saying, right?
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 3:13pm On Dec 03, 2014
londoner:


So, you don't have any issue with Igbo loyalty to PDP then, since they have "sown" there rather than with APC?

If I get you right, thats exactly what you are saying, right?

guy...you are free to interpret my comment anyhow you feel.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by londoner: 3:19pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


guy...you are free to interpret my comment anyhow you feel.

I'm asking you to confirm, "yes" or "no" whether my assessment of what you are saying, is actually what you are saying.

I'm a lady btw........
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Etruth: 3:23pm On Dec 03, 2014
Kutunban:
Its so pathetic that your opinion is based on tribalism and religious bigotry, which you claim is not the yard stick for this inconsequential post of yours.
Wrong. If you read through my post properly I mentioned 'all-inclusive/participatory' politics meaning, significant involvement in governance with every tribe well represented by able and selfless technocrats (not just polticians) resulting in a truly homogenous nation. The tribal ish you are talking about is a product of your imagination. You can't deny such ticket is a competent one in terms of good governance, while it also dispels the Pdp-inspired smear campaign that portrays the People's General as having an islamisation agenda.
Mind you the performing governors you mentioned are products of PDP.
Whose fault is it that they discovered how treachrous and self-serving pdp is and they decamped to a platform that support quality service to the people. Pdp is all about sharing money among the chieftains while the govs compete amongst themselves on who can loot the biggest amount within the shortest possible time.

May I enlighten you, the Buhari you APC always refer to as her candidate shows how corrupt it will be and biased its going to be if opportune to win 2015 election. There are other Presidential aspirants in APC that bought the same form with GMB, but APC always make them third class candidates, even the facts the parties primaries has not yet taken place
Is it the people's General's fault that he is soooo popular, that loyalists are campaigning for him without pay? I for one, have never met him, but I'm convinced about his capability based on his past records as Head of State, Head of PTF and NNPC. Also he is modest, disciplined,reslient and most importantly corruption-free. I'm sure he will never approve a budget of N1.2Bn for his food or prepare a budget of N970Bn annually as SCAM subsidy payment. If you enjoy the governance of your lord and saviour
in Aso rock so much, then better relocate to Otuoke and begin sensitization campaigns for him to be voted the Mayor of Otuoke n 2015.

[s]Talking of bringing a woman from the South east to divide GEJ votes its just a fantasy you are drunk with, because using a south east woman to deceive the region shows how gullible the APC will be because I believe the Igbo people are smarter than you think.

My advice for APC is to chill and re-strategies for 2019 because seriously ASO ROCK will be occupied by GEJ 2015
Insha Allah[/s]
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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by londoner: 3:25pm On Dec 03, 2014
@Ilugunboy, this is what was written...

'In politics...you reap where you sow and where you have demonstrated LOYALTY.....if Yorubas have sown into APC....it's only natural if they ask to reap there.'

Simply change the word Yoruba to Igbo and APC to PDP....and you have.....

'In politics...you reap where you sow and where you have demonstrated LOYALTY.....if Igbos have sown into PDP....it's only natural if they ask to reap there.'

This is what prompted me to ask whether you also don't have a problem with Igbo support for PDP.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by lilflipnerd: 3:28pm On Dec 03, 2014
I
Etruth:
I can see glimpses. With APC all hope is not lost. Oshiomhole is one guy I respect a lot, having witnessed the transformation of Edo state after years of misrule by Igbinedion and Osunbor from 1999 to 2008. Within 3 years, Oshimohle achieved more than the previous 9 yrs of PDP misrule. I was schooling in Benin then. Fashola is another performer. No Pdp governor is fit to lace Fashola's shoes. I have heard (and seen on TV) a lot of good things about Aliyu Wammakho of Sokoto and Kwankwaso of Kano but I can't conclude on hearsay,cost I haven't been to these places. How about Rochas in Imo. I always watch his press conferences on AIT, where he intimates his followers on recent developments, the next line of action, etc. I was at Owerri in September and I was amazed. The beauty of the city is amazing.Same thing with Orlu. How about Ogbeni Aregbesola? While I admit that there is more to be done, the APC govs are angels when compared to their PDP counterparts. Take for example, the recent Ebola scourge that threatened to ravage Nigeria. The swiftness and commitment of the state govs ( Lagos and Rivers) played a big part in the containment of the virus from spreading further. Imagine if such had happened in Abia, Kogi, Ebonyi or Delta. It would have been a different story today.
Action Congress Of Nigeria made PDP to work... If Pdp didn't get pressure from an opposition they won't do nothing even at the federal Level... All go b same

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 3:36pm On Dec 03, 2014
londoner:


I'm asking you to confirm, "yes" or "no" whether my assessment of what you are saying, is actually what you are saying.

I'm a lady btw........


I'm I under any obligation? Why asking me to say YES or NO when you've interpreted it already?

You don't have to read my comment in isolation of what prompted the comment.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by 99100(m): 4:24pm On Dec 03, 2014
Etruth:
Really? So the late governor's achievement when he was alive in 2010 is the proof that pdp is performing in 2014? Aren't there living pdp govs?They are all hated in their states by the ordinary man. Only their cronies, co-looters and political touts hero-worship them.THIEVES !!! Why didn't you mention Idris Wada, T.A Orji, Uduaghan, Elechi, Mohammed Aliyu, Gabriel Suswan? Pls note that Kwankwaso, Wamakho and Amaechi USED to be in Pdp and left because they got fed up of the rot and wickedness of the pdp policies.......and I applaud them for their courageous decision to leave the demonic party and stand for the good of the people even if they would lose out on personal gains. That's exactly what Moses did, when he grew up. (Hebrews 11:24)By faith, when Moses had grown up,he REFUSED to be known as the son of Pharoah's daughter. 25. He chose to suffer with the people rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. v27: HE FORSOOK EGYPT (pdp) not fearing the king (president).... I applaud them and their development strides while encouraging them to do more. Not everybody must be the president's buttlickers. THEY ARE NOT JUST YES MAN. THEY HAVE GOT BALLS AND SOME VALUES

Well , i mentioned the late Yakowa because haven been a resident of the state from 2000 until early this year , no doubt i should know more about the state than any other state.

His wonderful achievements was laudable. Even his enemies testified to that.

What makes you think Gov Suswan, gov Elechi ,etal aren't performing well ?

Have you been to their states.? Forget hearsay ,most of this governors u mentioned are loved by their people.

A governor mustn't blow his trumpet just to prove he is 'doing well' .

Right now i reside in Imo .It will surprise you to know that the Rochas i see in Imo is no where compared to the late governor of Kaduna state.

Yet he did his work silently without blowing his trumpet like the Rochas and co.

It is said that when a lie is repeated many times that it has the potentiality to become truth.

Haven said that ,contrary to ur claim that Kwankwaso and co left due to the rot and wicked policies of PDP ,I tell you NO .They left as Labaran Maku would put it due to their oversize ego. Let me repeat myself ; They couldnt withstand the tranformation GEJ emergence brought to PDP.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by brainpower(m): 4:45pm On Dec 03, 2014
The problem is that a lot of "internet enlightened" Nigerians believe we are like America without religious and tribal sentiments. First of all, if you really want change, you need someone that has something to offer and so far Buhari hasn't shown that he has moved with the world to the 21st century with his ideas and we know that most of the time, the president sidelines his vice during decision making. Buhari is still dependent on his past glory as incorruptible even though I don't believe he is. Who says Fashola is the best? And to think of giving him petroleum minister so he can give all the contracts to Tinubu? Fashola is an elitist governor, a lot of lagosians are living in slums and poor conditions. Fashola's education policy is close to zero so his govt doesn't have the poor in mind. For you to even mention Oby shows that most APC supporters are elitists supporters. Go to the registration centers and count how many rich and enlightened people are standing in queue to register just to vote next year. You will find the commoners waiting and standing while the rich will just enter their cars and drive off. As for Oby, in the East and especially the North, they don't really place women in high esteem, so imagine the sarcasm when they see a woman coming. Pat utomi will make a good candidate, cos he looks like he has something to offer. Atiku and Pat utomi or donald Duke or even Peter Obi as vice will go a long way.

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Curlieweed: 5:14pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


why wont Oby Oby bring in votes when most of the APC supporters in the SW/north are progresives who d no mind religious and tribal sentiments? at least that is what you people made us to beleive.

Touche. Nice one.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 5:23pm On Dec 03, 2014
I simply hate hypocrisy!!!nstead of them telling us that they want a hausa president with a yoruba VP,there are telling s that there are progressives who want real change!!!I did not hear of all this progressive poo during OBJ's regme.They simply want to return the yoruba to power through the back door.Sorry for you APC will never win the 2015 eelctions either by hook or crook GEJ wil continue til 2019.just get that into your head.

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Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 5:24pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


You reap what and where you sow.....it's a law of nature.
who exactly is sowing and who is reaping? is that the type of " change" APC is proosing?
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 5:33pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:

who exactly is sowing and who is reaping? is that the type of " change" APC is proosing?

Obviously......you have some challenges.
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 5:40pm On Dec 03, 2014
ilugunboy:


Obviously......you have some challenges.

hypocrite!!!You have been exposed for the tribalist that you are.I hope that fool berem is reading this
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


hypocrite!!!You have been exposed for the tribalist that you are.I hope that fool berem is reading this

Stop shouting....!

You don't understand Nigeria politics....concentrate on your 9-5 job....that is if you have any.

I ask you again......how many additional votes would Oby bring to APC if selected.....?

Eziachi:

What do you mean by notable? Just because they are fed by taxpayers doesn't make them notable. What makes you think that they are more important than me and you in Igboland?
99.9% of them never fought for our interest, whether in war or in peace time. You think that APC will give you their ticket in a platter just like that, when some of you takes turn to call the likes of Rochas, Amaechi or Ngige all sorts?
It doesn't work like. You cannot reap where you never sowed.

That is the same sentiment by a respected igbo man on this forum....
Re: My Suggestion For APC Flagbearers In 2015 by Nobody: 5:48pm On Dec 03, 2014
chukwudi44:


hypocrite!!!You have been exposed for the tribalist that you are.I hope that fool berem is reading this
is it your mother you call a fool? There's no need insulting her on a public forum. Shame on you son!!

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