dolphinheart:


5. If animals are not spirits, what are they?
Why then do you say man is spirit ? Because the bible helps us to know that man and animals are alike.

6.Sir, my questioned was aimed at showing you that your statement that man is a spirit or the spirit inside man is the man is false.
You have explained it that man is not the spirit in him urself here.
Man is said to go to the grave, his spirit/life force does not follow him to the grave.

I have answered both of these questions
Your questions are vague. Please make a point or challenge my points

7. Soul and spirit are not used interchangeably.
Soul and spirit do not mean the same thing.
The Greek and hebrew words used for soul and spirit in the bible are different and have different meaning .
So I still ask you, what is the soul(that could be distinct third component of man )

What did John see underneath the altar in heaven? Souls or spirits?

8.That is/ could not be his spirit.
Jesus went to hell, the bible says when someone dies his spirit leaves him and his spirit does not follow him to hell.
How can you then atribute man to his spirit when the bible says man went to hell?by the way, what do you understand by hell.?

To be continued.........

The Bible was written to people who knew the distinction
Look at the parable of the rich man and Lazarus
He died.....in hell........Who was in hell? the rich man
Lazarus died and was carried by angels..What was carried? Lazarus
Do you see how after death both are still referred to as in their life on earth?

vooks:
1.

I note what you are saying about Adam. God made a body out of the earth,and ONLY after breathing into it his spirit did the body become animated

Could you please explain to me 2 Cor 12:2,James 2:26.Thank you

2 cor 12: 2 states :
New Living Translation
I was caught up to the third heaven fourteen years ago. Whether I was in my body or out of my body, I don't know--only God knows.

King James Bible
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

( to understand my explanation better, pls read chapter 11 and 12 while having my explanation in view)

That passage comes right after verses in which Paul defended his apostleship. Since the Bible does not speak of any other person who had such an experience and since it is Paul who tells us of it, likely Paul had this vision.
Since he wrote this in about 55 C.E., 14 years earlier would take us back to 41 C.E., in the middle of the “silent years.”
It appears then that Paul (about 41 C.E.) was
privileged to experience a supernatural vision so real that he did not know whether it was in the body or out of the body that he was caught away to “the third heaven.”


That vision doubtless gave Saul unique insight. Was it to equip him as “an apostle to the nations”? ( Romans 11:13)
(remember he was initially not one of jesus disciples and some of the things he thought must have been from the holy spirit in form of visions.)


Third Heaven.
At 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 the apostle Paul describes one who was “caught away . . . to the third heaven” and “into paradise.” some have endeavored to relate Paul’s reference to the third heaven to the early rabbinic view that there were stages of heaven, even a total of “seven heavens,” this view finds no support in the Scriptures.
As we have seen, the heavens are not referred to specifically as if divided into platforms or stages, but, rather, the context must be relied upon to determine whether reference is to the heavens within earth’s atmospheric expanse, the heavens of outer space, the spiritual heavens, or something else. It therefore appears that the reference to “the third heaven” indicates the superlative degree of the rapture in which this vision was seen. Note the way words and expressions are repeated three times at Isaiah 6:3; Ezekiel 21:27; John 21:15-17; Revelation 4:8 , evidently for the purpose of expressing an intensification of the quality or idea.


James 2:26

King James Bible
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Jas. 2:14, 26, RS: “What does it profit, my
brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.”

The spirit is the life force that enables man to perform some functions and also to survive. If that spirit is not in the body, the body is dead, man is dead and will start to turn back to dust , which is where God said he made him from .
A person does not earn salvation by his works. But anyone who has genuine faith will have
works to go with it—works of obedience to the commands of God and Christ, works that demonstrate his faith and love. Without such
works, his faith is dead.
He needs that force in him to be active and enabled to demostrate the faith he has.

(Footnote on spirit/breath/lifeforce in man)
Life-force, or spirit, is impersonal. The Scriptures refer to the ru′ach, or life-force, as being not only in humans but also in animals. ( Ge 6:17; 7:15, 22)
Ecclesiastes 3:18-22 shows that man dies in
the same manner as the beasts, for “they all
have but one spirit [weru′ach], so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast,” that is, as to the life-force common to both.

This being so, it is clear that the “spirit,” or
life-force (ru′ach), as used in this sense is
impersonal, it is not unique to individuals or different in each individual. As an illustration, one might compare it to another invisible force,
electricity, which may be used to make various types of Machines operate—causing stoves to produce heat, fans to produce wind, computers to solve problems, television sets to produce figures, voices and other sounds—yet which electric current never takes on any of the characteristics of the machines in which it functions or is active.
Thus, Psalm 146:3, 4 says that when man’s “spirit [form of ru′ach] goes out, he (man/Adam/dolphinheart) goes back to his ground; in that day his(man/adam/dolphinheart)
thoughts do perish.” The spirit, or life-force, that was active in man’s body cells does not
retain any of the characteristics of those cells, such as the brain cells and their part in the thinking process. If the spirit, or life- force (ru′ach; pneu′ma), were not impersonal, then it would mean that the children of certain Israelite women who were resurrected by the prophets Elijah and Elisha were actually in conscious existence somewhere in the period during which they were dead. So, too, with Lazarus, who was
resurrected some four days after his death.
( 1Ki 17:17-23; 2Ki 4:32-37; Joh 11:38-44) If
such had been the case, it is reasonable that
they would have remembered such conscious existence during that period and upon being resurrected would have described it, told about it. There is nothing to indicate that any of them did so. Hence, the personality of the dead individual is not perpetuated in the life-force, or spirit, that stops functioning in the deceased person’s body cells.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 states that at death the
person’s body returns to the dust, “and the
spirit itself returns to the true God who gave
it.” The person himself was never in heaven
with God; what “returns” to God is therefore
the vital force that enabled the person to live.
In view of the impersonal nature of the
life-force, or spirit, found in man (as also in
the animal creation), it is evident that David’s statement at Psalm 31:5, quoted by Jesus at the time of his death (Lu 23:46),
“Into your hand I entrust my spirit,” meant that God was being called upon to guard, or care for, that one’s life-force. (Compare Ac 7:59.) That there be an actual and literal transmission of some force from this planet to the heavenly presence of God is not necessarily required. Even as the fragrant scent of animal sacrifices was spoken of as being ‘smelled’ by God ( Ge 8:20, 21), whereas such scent undoubtedly remained within earth’s atmosphere, so, too, God could ‘gather in,’ or could accept as
entrusted to him, the spirit or life-force in a
figurative sense, that is, without any literal
transmission of vital force from earth. ( Job
34:14; Lu 23:46) A person’s entrusting his spirit evidently means, then, that he places his hope in God for a future restoration of such life-force to himself through a resurrection.—Compare Nu
16:22; 27:16; Job 12:10; Ps 104:29, 30

vooks:
2. mean, spirit of dolphinheart is not spirit of vooks just as your body is unique to you from mine

3. I told you they are different because God called animals out of the water and earth whereas he put his spirit in man. They may both be spirits but one came from God.

4. God made a body and breathed his spirit in it. This means the body minus the spirit is not man as such and vice versa. Man after death exists as spirit. This is what John saw under the altar. The spirit will be clothed with a glorified,powerful and incorruptible body also called spiritual. Look at Jesus after resurrection and you will get the idea.

This is what I mean when I say man is a spirit housed in a body. Paul and Peter both talk of the body as being a house or container for the man.

2 Peter 1:13-14 (ESV)
I think it right, as long as I am in this body, to stir you up by way of reminder, 14 since I know that the putting off of my body will be soon, as our Lord Jesus Christ made clear to me. 15 And I will make every effort so that after my departure you may be able at any time to recall these things.

Here Peter talking of death speaks of putting off the house/tabernacle/body.

[b]2 Corinthians 5:1-10 (ESV) ​
1 For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this tent we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling, 3 if indeed by putting it on we may not be found naked. 4 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
6 So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.[/b]

Here Paul speaks of the body as a tent. If it is a tent and we are putting it on, Paul is clearly distinguishing between 'we' and the body. I can't possibly put it more plainly.

2. In the footnote I posted the bible says otherwise.

A)Does the spirit have conciousness after it leaves the body?
B)when does this unique spirit enter into a new baby, since u say the spirit is different from that of the parents ?.

3.Sir,how can they be different when the bible and you say thus:
A) God called animals out of water and earth.
B)man/adam was created from earth(dust) and water
C) man and animals are both called souls
D) man have spirit , animals have spirit
E) the spirit in man is same as the spirit in animals.
F) they both have same eventuality.
If any of the aforementioned statement is wrong, let me know.

Pls read the following verses and explain what u understand on it, as ur explanation will help on this discussion.
Psalms 104: 30
Ecclesiastes 3:18-22.

4. Sir, God did not create a body and breathed his spirit into it . The bible says God created Adam/man and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life/spirit/active force. The two are different concepts.
The bible shows that Adam was created first before he became a living soul, that is before he had the breathe of life in him.
This is why God , when passing judgement on Adam , told him what he is,God told adam that he is dust/earth.

Sir , will like to discuss the body being tenth and what John saw under the alter with you, but first pls discuss the questions I posted to u earlier which are:

A)in relation to the second resurrection, if man is spirit, why does he need a spirit body?

B)Remember our discussion is based on the second resurrection. Are they all expecting to be resurrected in spirit bodies too?

C)Do the spiritual bodies need to be created from dust?

D)when man dies, is the spirit conscious after death ?

E)where is mans spirit after death, with God or in hell. ?.


Pls remember, I try to look at the scriptures u cited, I post them and endeavor to give u my own view of the scriptures u posted , before I then go on to explain my own view or points, pls endeavor to do same to my posts .

2
(A) Yes
(B) we are not told when

3. Animals and men have one thing in common; they are living. Man is made in the image of God, animals are not.


4. Job 27:3 (ESV)
3 as long as my breath is in me,
and the spirit of God is in my nostrils,

(A) the spirit needs a body but not this corruptible body because that is how God made man. Study 1 Cor 15

(B) question is unclear or ambiguous

(C) no they don't. When Jesus comes back, the dead in Christ will arise and be clothed with spiritual bodies. The living will be transformed. Read 1 Cor 15. This mortal body carries the seed of the spiritual body figuratively. Where does this idea of creating spiritual bodies come from?

(D) very conscious. Luke 16 parable tells you that among others

(E) away from the corpse

dolphinheart:




2. In the footnote I posted the bible says otherwise.

A)Does the spirit have conciousness after it leaves the body?
B)when does this unique spirit enter into a new baby, since u say the spirit is different from that of the parents ?.

3.Sir,how can they be different when the bible and you say thus:
A) God called animals out of water and earth.
B)man/adam was created from earth(dust) and water
C) man and animals are both called souls
D) man have spirit , animals have spirit
E) the spirit in man is same as the spirit in animals.
F) they both have same eventuality.
If any of the aforementioned statement is wrong, let me know.

Pls read the following verses and explain what u understand on it, as ur explanation will help on this discussion.
Psalms 104: 30
Ecclesiastes 3:18-22.

4. Sir, God did not create a body and breathed his spirit into it . The bible says God created Adam/man and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life/spirit/active force. The two are different concepts.
The bible shows that Adam was created first before he became a living soul, that is before he had the breathe of life in him.
This is why God , when passing judgement on Adam , told him what he is,God told adam that he is dust/earth.

Sir , will like to discuss the body being tenth and what John saw under the alter with you, but first pls discuss the questions I posted to u earlier which are:

A)in relation to the second resurrection, if man is spirit, why does he need a spirit body?

B)Remember our discussion is based on the second resurrection. Are they all expecting to be resurrected in spirit bodies too?

C)Do the spiritual bodies need to be created from dust?

D)when man dies, is the spirit conscious after death ?

E)where is mans spirit after death, with God or in hell. ?.


Pls remember, I try to look at the scriptures u cited, I post them and endeavor to give u my own view of the scriptures u posted , before I then go on to explain my own view or points, pls endeavor to do same to my posts .

davien:
In other words..why not pay the mob boss threatening you than die,right?
Because that is what you are basically saying....that "god" comes down and says
"heck of a life you got there,would be a shame if you had to burn in hell for eternity wouldn't it?....tell you what,believe in my son here and you're gonna be okay". ..is that "just"?

How is a freewill choice between one evil and another a good thing?...that is blackmail,not a life preserver..

stop deceiving yourself. God is not forcing to believe in Jesus. Either you believe, live for God and inherit eternal life. Or you believe not, live for the devil and the end is Hell, where there's much weeping, sorrow and gnashing of teeth.

Rjasan:
stop deceiving yourself. God is not forcing to believe in Jesus. Either you believe, live for God and inherit eternal life. Or you believe not, live for the devil and the end is Hell, where there's much weeping, sorrow and gnashing of teeth.

be quiet, there is no HELL, stop deceiving yourself with myths.

It's not just by telling me to be quiet, how can you disprove it. Since the bible say there's hell and you say there's no hell. Give me tangible reasons, or proofs to show that there's no hell?

malvisguy212:
God design the law to guide us so that man will live in harmony with one another,but man chose to break this law. Those who go to hell make the choice by there own self, God say don't kill, don't steal ,don't commit adultery , is this to much to ask for?if you obey this law is for your own good,the world will be a better place to live, but people don't want to abandon there favourite sin. You chose hell or heaven,it a choice.

Thank you. Instead of changing their ways, they look for ways to justify them.

Rjasan:
It's not just by telling me to be quiet, how can you disprove it. Since the bible say there's hell and you say there's no hell. Give me tangible reasons, or proofs to show that there's no hell?

Hell was FORGED into the bible , orginally written in greek .

Where is Adam ??

CAPTIVATOR:


Hell was FORGED into the bible , orginally written in greek .

Where is Adam ??

Anyone can say this was forged into that. Hope you don't expect me to believe that.
.
I think Adam is in heaven.

Rjasan:
Anyone can say this was forged into that. Hope you don't expect me to believe that.
.
I think Adam is in heaven.

I know you have a serious problem answering that question . But I will give a clue

God said Adam will " RETURN to where he was taken" ! Gen 3:19 .... So where was Adam taken ?? Was he taken from heaven ??

Rjasan:
stop deceiving yourself. God is not forcing to believe in Jesus. Either you believe, live for God and inherit eternal life. Or you believe not, live for the devil and the end is Hell, where there's much weeping, sorrow and gnashing of teeth.

how does unbelief dictate a choice?....or how did I choose the "devil" by not believing?

Rjasan:
Anyone can say this was forged into that. Hope you don't expect me to believe that.
.
I think Adam is in heaven.

in heaven . . geez, i gotta laugh at that . . even after willfully disobeying God . . u expect him to be in heaven . . u can as well say Judas Iscariot is also in heaven . . i'll believe you.

What shall it profit those who disobey the Will of God and decide to take the road that lead them to hell?

UncleSnr:
It is written that the evil people will burn in hell i.e. suffer for eternity, my question is that, will it make them become good, or undo the evil they have done?
What is the gain of burning them forever?

Yes, it does make them become good depending on their inner attitude towards the torments they face. It's same with those on earth going through difficulties, suffering and hardship. If they accept the fact that they themselves decided the fate and that they duly deserve it, truly, their past guilts are taken from them. But those who say why me?directly affirm that God is unjust by allowing them suffer an evil fate they don't deserve, in this way they incur more and more new evil fates. God alone is holy and just!

bsjay:

Yes, it does make them become good depending on their inner attitude towards the torments they face. It's same with those on earth going through difficulties, suffering and hardship. If they accept the fact that they themselves decided the fate and that they duly deserve it, truly, their past guilts are taken from them. But those who say why me?directly affirm that God is unjust by allowing them suffer an evil fate they don't deserve, in this way they incur more and more new evil fates. God alone is holy and just!

!!

"the wages of sin is Death" rom 6:23 NOT eternal torture .

NO Normal Human will burn his child alive ....... And thats the reason God killed the cananites , the cananites burn their sons and daughters alive in the fire !!! Sooo bad ( Deu 12:31) !

Is God an hypocrite, who ban somtin YET do it on a large scale ? NO ! " such has never come into his heart" Jer 7:31 .

Pls, where is Adam ??

JeffreyJamez:


Gbam!!...even the so called pastors know this,hence the different attrocities they commit, but their blinded followers just won't see this... as far as na "man of God " do am,it is OK.I pity them

Don't make yourselves cheap tools through whom Lucifer expresses himself. There's hell but the concept of it is what is lacking in people's mind. Your belief of no hell is like saying there is no Light nor Darkness. It is true that hell is not a place where fire burns as people assume. According to the Spiritual Laws, everything we think, speak and do take on forms in the spiritual worlds according to their nature. If they are good the forms they take on are beautiful and thus uplift the soul to the regions of Light. But if they are evil the forms they take on are like demons and thus drag the soul down to the regions of Darkness. Here, the Law of Attraction of Homogeneous Species comes to activity. If you were a murderer the Law leads you to that place in the regions of Darkness where those of your kind are, your duty there is to continue to fight, cut yourselves without rest. Even when you are tired you can't rest even in one second. It continues so for eternity and you can imagine that such a terrible situation is even worst than to be burnt by fire. The demons you created through your evil thoughts, words and deeds are tormenting you while fighting and cutting yourselves especially with the person you murdered. Seek for spiritual enlightenment and stop deceiving yourselves with religions and churches.

bsjay:

Seek for spiritual enlightenment and stop deceiving yourselves with religions and churches.

Religions and churches are devoid of meaningful spirituality anyway. The real adversary is oneself, not some remote entity. We all have a combination of good and evil behaviors woven in our consciousness.

How do you think that the devil could drag Jesus up a mountain to tempt him? Granted it's a story but the implications are still there. Can you imagine a product tempting his omnipotent creator? Impossible. Unless they are the SAME person. Jesus took HIMSELF up the mountain and his mind was playing tricks on him, as it does with us all. There was no one else there.

bsjay:

Yes, it does make them become good depending on their inner attitude towards the torments they face. It's same with those on earth going through difficulties, suffering and hardship. If they accept the fact that they themselves decided the fate and that they duly deserve it, truly, their past guilts are taken from them. But those who say why me?directly affirm that God is unjust by allowing them suffer an evil fate they don't deserve, in this way they incur more and more new evil fates. God alone is holy and just!

You mean, one won't burn forever?

UncleSnr:
You mean, one won't burn forever?

All that you need is the Knowledge of God in His Justice and Love and your eyes will at last be opened to the sad TRUTH as It actually is. Not what churches have told you, cos they themselves don't know. Get a copy of the Grail Message and examine it. Do you know the TIME we are standing in now? The great Millennium is at the corner! Every second currently on earth is too precious to be wasted! If you are interested in examining the Grail Message let me know and I'll direct u on where to get a copy.

Weah96:


Religions and churches are devoid of meaningful spirituality anyway. The real adversary is oneself, not some remote entity. We all have a combination of good and evil behaviors woven in our consciousness.

How do you think that the devil could drag Jesus up a mountain to tempt him? Granted it's a story but the implications are still there. Can you imagine a product tempting his omnipotent creator? Impossible. Unless they are the SAME person. Jesus took HIMSELF up the mountain and his mind was playing tricks on him, as it does with us all. There was no one else there.

You almost sounded like one that's close to the Truth. Jesus, the Living Word of God made flesh to dwell among men, was tempted by Lucifer himself because, with His acceptance to come to the earth out of love for erring mankind, He was made to be lower than even the angels. For that reason, the devil was able to tempt Him and afterwards put Him to death through those who made themselves willing tools for Lucifer. You said no one was there? Yes, you are right! No one was there because Lucifer can only be seen physically if he takes on the flesh as Jesus Himself did and be born by a woman which is impossible. He tempts man only through his intellect. He has only the power to tempt but has no such power to force anyone to fall in his temptation. What happened there was Jesus showing us that we are more powerful than him and can always resist him cos, with our flesh, we stand firmly anchored on Matter than him. You cannot stop the wind from blowing but you can always stand your ground!

CAPTIVATOR:
!!

"the wages of sin is Death" rom 6:23 NOT eternal torture .

NO Normal Human will burn his child alive ....... And thats the reason God killed the cananites , the cananites burn their sons and daughters alive in the fire !!! Sooo bad ( Deu 12:31) !

Is God an hypocrite, who ban somtin YET do it on a large scale ? NO ! " such has never come into his heart" Jer 7:31 .

Pls, where is Adam ??

Again, I say to u. There's no fire burning in Hell but the torments in the regions of Darkness is almost worst than the burning of fire! Do not wish to experience it. For this reason the Author of the Grail Message admonishes: "Keep the hearth of your thoughts pure, by so doing you will bring peace and be happy!"
As for Adam, I hope u know that the bible primarily is a spiritual book? The story of Adam and Eve is an allegory which conveys the knowledge of how man started his journey from the Kingdom of God as unconscious spirit-seed or germ to a conscious human spirit on this Gross Material earth. It is like the parables of Jesus. The confusion there is because all the priests and scholars have always only tried to interpret it in an earthly sense. You can examine the Grail Message if you genuinely seek for the Truth behind that story. Be motivated to seek by the words of Christ in John16:12-15

CAPTIVATOR:


I know you have a serious problem answering that question . But I will give a clue

God said Adam will " RETURN to where he was taken" ! Gen 3:19 .... So where was Adam taken ?? Was he taken from heaven ??

My dear, you are in a sorry state. You gratefully embrace the doctrine of Russell without examining it with ur spirit nor ever seeking to know who Mr Russell was. Have you ever thought of why Mr Russell's grave, the founder of watch tower(jehova's witnesses) was made in a pyramid shape? I will tell u the lodge he was connected to in New York as a freemason before he protester of all Truths. His aims and mission ot watch tower. You are only victims of the most poisonous doctrines without first making findings before accepting it. Am happy that I've been able to impart on the life of so many of your members who are still spiritually alive. As for you, I suggest you don't wait for the too late.

bsjay:

My dear, you are in a sorry state. You gratefully embrace the doctrine of Russell without examining it with ur spirit nor ever seeking to know who Mr Russell was. Have you ever thought of why Mr Russell's grave, the founder of watch tower(jehova's witnesses) was made in a pyramid shape? I will tell u the lodge he was connected to in New York as a freemason before he protester of all Truths. His aims and mission ot watch tower. You are only victims of the most poisonous doctrines without first making findings before accepting it. Am happy that I've been able to impart on the life of so many of your members who are still spiritually alive. As for you, I suggest you don't wait for the too late.

Just calm down .

According to the scriptures .... Where is Adam ??

CAPTIVATOR:


Just calm down .

According to the scriptures .... Where is Adam ??

If I have told you of matters which would benefit you spiritually and ye believe me not, how will you believe me if I tell you where Adam is? Time is precious so, I don't waste it casting my seeds on stony grounds.

bsjay:

If I have told you of matters which would benefit you spiritually and ye believe me not, how will you believe me if I tell you where Adam is? Time is precious so, I don't waste it casting my seeds on stony grounds.

. Oooppss! That HURTS! Anyway, that's the fact, a wise man doesn't build on a shaky foundation. #TeamHeaven#

frosbel:


Use your brain !!!!

No one is going to heaven, duh...

Wait. Is Frosbel now an atheist? If you are not then you are probably the most confusing theist on NL.

oluafolabi:




Wait. Is Frosbel now an atheist? If you are not then you are probably the most confusing theist on NL.

@ frosbel, say rather, I and all those sharing in the same belief and doctrine with me cannot go to heaven. In this way you make more sense. "ye shall know the Truth and It shall set you free!". Indeed Truth is what's lacking in every belief systems because of their erroneous interpretations of the Word of God. While it is true that there are Heavens no human spirit can enter; such as the Abode of the Almighty Father which is the Highest Height, the Divine Kingdom which is the Abode of the Queen of Heaven, Archangels and the Elders. Still further downward, the Primordial Spiritual Kingdoms which is the Abode of the eternal created Spirits. These are the Heavens no human spirit can penetrate but there is a Heaven for human spirits. It's called Paradise of the human spirits where they all started their journey as unconscious spirit seeds and is situated within the Spiritual Creation which streets are made of Pure Gold. No earthly pictures can depict the beauty thereof.
It is true that a replica of this Edifice will be erected here on earth during the Millennium after all which oppose the Will of God must have been swept away and the earth is purified with everything, including men becoming NEW. This period of the great Millennium is to teach men how to stand at last only in the Will of God. Also, how they will live when they finally go back home to where they came from as the angels live.
Seek for spiritual enlightenment and it shall lead you to all Truth, and this Truth alone shall lead you unerringly to the eternal Kingdom of your God, the Kingdom of eternal Bliss and joyous activities.

davien:
Really but won't the "tree of life" be there?( note: read Revelations 22:2 ) and then read Ezekiel 47:12;

"Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their
leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will
bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them.
Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing."

So how do you know the "tree of good and evil" isn't one of the different kinds there?...placed to run another massacre on "earth 2.0"?

This guy your good. A 1000 likes to you sir.

Queennelly:
Rev 21vs14
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. "

Hell means grave were all will go to once you are dead

Be sure of what you want to ask

Behold this logic:
IF hell is not real, THEN Jesus is a liar,
OR the bible is not true word of God,
ELSE you are an ANTICHRIST

waldigit:

Behold this logic:
IF hell is not real, THEN Jesus is a liar,
OR the bible is not true word of God,
ELSE you are an ANTICHRIST

Are you just knowing that all so-called jehova's witnesses are antichrist? The word "antichrist" simply means anti-spiritual. Those who refuse to believe in anything spiritual and therefore fight against it. They are earthly and therefore imagine that everything has its origin from the gross material earth and must end on gross material earth. They are all spiritually dead and their final destination is that same hell whose existence they try to extinguish out of shear stupidity and spiritual indolence.
By them not believing in the Holy Trinity, they already mark Christ Jesus as a blasphemer and liar. They are victims of one man's ignorance and evil mission, Mr Russell, founder of watch tower and a member of Freemasonry in New York. Am so surprised cos freemasons are known to be enlightened ones.
Am talking not as a Christian but as an enlightened person!

bsjay:

Are you just knowing that all so-called jehova's witnesses are antichrist? The word "antichrist" simply means anti-spiritual. Those who refuse to believe in anything spiritual and therefore fight against it. They are earthly and therefore imagine that everything has its origin from the gross material earth and must end on gross material earth. They are all spiritually dead and their final destination is that same hell whose existence they try to extinguish out of shear stupidity and spiritual indolence.
By them not believing in the Holy Trinity, they already mark Christ Jesus as a blasphemer and liar. They are victims of one man's ignorance and evil mission, Mr Russell, founder of watch tower and a member of Freemasonry in New York. Am so surprised cos freemasons are known to be enlightened ones.
Am talking not as a Christian but as an enlightened person!

If u are enlightened,you would av research on these hebrew &greek terms .. Sheo'l, hade's, and Gehenna