Joshthefirst:
Lol. Dismissing reality doesn't change anything. Note its not my idea. Humans are more than flesh and blood. They are Spirit. Spirits are eternal.

Brother,
I think you should leave the guys alone to their disbelief.
They are on you coz you're trying to prove something right. They can't even prove their disbelief all they do IS to insult you when they are realize they are losers.as Plaeton did.
So just leave them alone, Goodheads don't talk to much. Coz the little they say defends itself with time.
Also remember that the truth IS not always accepted.
Years ago it was foolish to say men will fly but Now It IS foolish to say otherwise.
It was also foolish to say that you could talk to someone miles away. Now....?
so leave em alone.

Esiri111:

Brother,
I think you should leave the guys alone to their disbelief.
They are on you coz you're trying to prove something right. They can't even prove their disbelief all they do IS to insult you when they are realize they are losers.as Plaeton did.
So just leave them alone, Goodheads don't talk to much. Coz the little they say defends itself with time.
Also remember that the truth IS not always accepted.
Years ago it was foolish to say men will fly but Now It IS foolish to say otherwise.
It was also foolish to say that you could talk to someone miles away. Now....?
so leave em alone.

If u are waiting for someone to prove his disbelief to you... Then you should probably go back to school. Someone tells you he believes in no God because he had never seen or heard from any God. He has never seen anyone that has seen God. All you do is ask he disproves his unbelief. Do you even know what u ask?

Ya years ago it was foolish to think people fly and there is a devil that gives illness and there is a God that heals people.... Today its still foolish, I am glad you can only record success in scientific feats and not religious feat.

Sit there and wait for you invisible spiritual mansion in heaven. Your Jesus Christ didn't even contribute anything to d scientific world, how many houses did he teach us to build? As a carpenter's son what did he invent... Yet he promises spiritual mansion...Lol, I wish u all the best in your delusion.

Redlyn:


I have my version of reality and you have yours (from the bible no doubt) so here you are giving me lectures on the unknowable. On things that cannot be known by a mortal only supposed. But that is the normal arrogance of a theist. They are always right and the only ones that are right and everyone else is wrong! Spouting like you are some oracle of knowledge on existence. The REALITY of it is both of us are clueless here but its fascinating hearing about your spirits and their eternalness

Can you imagine... Punish a finite sin with an infinite punishment... i mean how can people imagine that and think it justice?
The truth is they are victims of the fear factor! even the people that teach em are all victims too cus someone told them. they all know it is not and can never be justice to punish someone infinitely for a finite sin in short it is evil.. but they av no choice, they fear the consequences...
When they start facing reality and realize that they is nothing like after life and all this shiiit about gods are just mythical fables. the they can break away from the fear that av been inbedded in them from childhood.

Joshthefirst:
No. God has mercy on those who rely on his mercy. Are you even trying to understand my words at all or have you closed your mind in dogma? Do you think its religion that saves?

There's no salvation in religion. No mercy either. Look upon the average man and you see a man who thinks his good in life is what will get him on a soft pedestal with God. No. His sin has condemned him already. But Gods great love and mercy and salvation is revealed through the sacrifice of the MAN Jesus. Godbis willing to save all those who trust in his salvation, his Jesus. No one else has or will be eligible to lay down his life as a sacrifice for sin that many of us may obtain Gods favor and love.

You keep talking as if only one concept of God exist in the world. What is sin to you and the God you believe in isn't sin to another God. While your religion has no salvation in it other religions promise salvation to people as long as they follow their laid down creeds. Both you and them only have belief to support your assertions and nothing else. The bottom line whether you accept it or not is that only those that accept your religious beliefs will be saved, those that don't will perish which is exactly my point.

Plaetton, Notice how we speak about God now. We aren't even debating his existence anymore. That's self evident. You only seek a god to satisfy your tastes and whims. Unfortunately God will not be made in anyone's image. You must conform to the creator, not the other way around (I'm sure you'd be disappointed if you found a creator who would conform to you, belittling if you ask me). As for you, until you find a desirable god for yourself, you'll rather believe you're the aftermath of a cosmic accident. Quite unfortunate.

How is God self evident? All the different Gods are self evident to those who believe in them. Even the Hindu Gods are all self evident.

If God exists then there would be no arguement about his existence.

There is never an argument about the existence of my earthly father, how much more the creator of the world?

It is foolishness to try to prove the existence of a conscious being to someone. If I have no reason to believe in God... Its probably God's fault (if he exists), not mine.

If he makes himself known to me... I will have no reason to doubt his existence.

frank317:


If u are waiting for someone to prove his disbelief to you... Then you should probably go back to school. Someone tells you he believes in no God because he had never seen or heard from any God. He has never seen anyone that has seen God. All you do is ask he disproves his unbelief. Do you even know what u ask?

I see you're the one that needs to go back to school and learn logic.
Coz I wasn't asking no question,
and who was telling me "he doesn't believe in GOD coz he doesn't see Him and so on"
Look man I wasn't even talking to you neither was I posing an argument I was advising my Brother. Don't you read?

Ya years ago it was foolish to think people fly and there is a devil that gives illness and there is a God that heals people.... Today its still foolish, I am glad you can only record success in scientific feats and not religious feat.

You are Poke nosing yet you're misunderstanding.
You're so off, From your "uncalled for" reply you didn't even understand what I mean by fly. It seems you are new to philosophy or you are never there.
I will not start explaining what I meant because I wasn't talking to you.
And it's not binding on me to give the Religious feat coz the Person I was talking To already knows alot of them.

Sit there and wait for you invisible spiritual mansion in heaven. Your Jesus Christ didn't even contribute anything to d scientific world, how many houses did he teach us to build? As a carpenter's son what did he invent... Yet he promises spiritual mansion...Lol, I wish u all the best in your delusion.

You don't even know JESUS CHRIST.
I don't care If you believe it or not that your life depends on HIM. (by the way You don't have to believe it for it to be true)
And Yes I'm waiting for my GREAT Mansion
(of course invisible to you)
AND believe it or not, JESUS was not here to You some things you can do on your own.
He Taught us Things we couldn't do on our own
HE Did supernatural Things and I know you'll argue because That's above you.

Also You are mistaking as usual it IS no delusion I believe what I have proven.

Finally. I wasn't talking To You.

Esiri111:

I see you're the one that needs to go back to school and learn logic.
Coz I wasn't asking no question,
and who was telling me "he doesn't believe in GOD coz he doesn't see Him and so on"
Look man I wasn't even talking to you neither was I posing an argument I was advising my Brother. Don't you read?

You are Poke nosing yet you're misunderstanding.
You're so off, From your "uncalled for" reply you didn't even understand what I mean by fly. It seems you are new to philosophy or you are never there.
I will not start explaining what I meant because I wasn't talking to you.
And it's not binding on me to give the Religious feat coz the Person I was talking To already knows alot of them.

You don't even know JESUS CHRIST.
I don't care If you believe it or not that your life depends on HIM. (by the way You don't have to believe it for it to be true)
And Yes I'm waiting for my GREAT Mansion
(of course invisible to you)
AND believe it or not, JESUS was not here to You some things you can do on your own.
He Taught us Things we couldn't do on our own
HE Did supernatural Things and I know you'll argue because That's above you.

Also You are mistaking as usual it IS no delusion I believe what I have proven.

Finally. I wasn't talking To You.

Ya you weren't talking to me but I got interested and barged in. Besides you have replied me so let's let the conversion flow.

1. You werent asking a question... That's true but you said something like 'they can't even prove their disbelieve', hence my response. So let me learn you again. The reason why atheists don't believe in God is because they have not seen or heard or felt him before, neither have they seen anyone that had done so. So next time you talk about someone not proving his disbelieve, I will recommend school to you once again.

2. Tell me just three religious feat... Perhaps I can learn from you.

3. Pls sir stop lying to your self. You don't know Jesus Christ. You only believe in him. It's funny how you believe a spiritual house is waiting for you after life but think that some one waiting for 72 virgins after death is a fooool. Pls tell me the difference between you two. You guys, can your human mind think of a better after life reward other than house, food and virgins?
What did he teach you? Supernatural things indeed, can u fly?
Nothing you know is above me bro. Infact from your speech... I know much more than you.

frank317:


Ya you weren't talking to me but I got interested and barged in. Besides you have replied me so let's let the conversion flow.

1. You werent asking a question... That's true but you said something like 'they can't even prove their disbelieve', hence my response. So let me learn you again. The reason why atheists don't believe in God is because they have not seen or heard or felt him before, neither have they seen anyone that had done so. So next time you talk about someone not proving his disbelieve, I will recommend school to you once again.

2. Tell me just three religious feat... Perhaps I can learn from you.

3. Pls sir stop lying to your self. You don't know Jesus Christ. You only believe in him. It's funny how you believe a spiritual house is waiting for you after life but think that some one waiting for 72 virgins after death is a fooool. Pls tell me the difference between you two. You guys, can your human mind think of a better after life reward other than house, food and virgins?
What did he teach you? Supernatural things indeed, can u fly?
Nothing you know is above me bro. Infact from your speech... I know much more than you.

Dont i just love this reply? 72virgins and mansions for spirits in a spiritual realm... christians say muslims are delusional cus they are expecting 72virgins while they themselves are expecting golden mansions and white robes... lolzzzzz...... chai

frank317:


Ya you weren't talking to me but I got interested and barged in. Besides you have replied me so let's let the conversion flow.

1. You werent asking a question... That's true but you said something like 'they can't even prove their disbelieve', hence my response. So let me learn you again. The reason why atheists don't believe in God is because they have not seen or heard or felt him before, neither have they seen anyone that had done so. So next time you talk about someone not proving his disbelieve, I will recommend school to you once again.

That IS GOOD enough prove that I should stop cease to reply You after this coz you don't want to learn.
So If I tell you of My Friend in Lagos you'll tell me he doesn't exist coz you've neither seen him or felt him before.

Well aside I am student so leave the school stuff.

The book of Proverbs has a lot that can increase your thinking ability.

2. Tell me just three religious feat... Perhaps I can learn from you.

You cant learn from it coz telling you will lead to another line of arguement. coz it's sure above you.
But If you're sure I am wrong then You can do some Google research.

3. Pls sir stop lying to your self. You don't know Jesus Christ. You only believe in him. It's funny how you believe a spiritual house is waiting for you after life but think that some one waiting for 72 virgins after death is a fooool. Pls tell me the difference between you two. You guys, can your human mind think of a better after life reward other than house, food and virgins?
What did he teach you? Supernatural things indeed, can u fly?

As I said before... You'll surely argue.
You cannot call a religion that encourage you to kill yourself and others coz you get some virgins an Ideal religion. Logically and Morally it IS unfair.
But I will surely call a religion that teaches that you should "Pray for your enemies and do GOOD to them that dispitefully use you" An Ideal One.
If you still don't believe That's your Problem.
But I will never reply You again.
You still don't know what I mean by "fly ".Its technology.

Nothing you know is above me bro. Infact from your speech... I know much more than you.

That's what You wish
I keep you beneath notice on this thread from now on.
Meanwhile I wish you HEAVEN, PEACE AND PROSPERITY.
Stay cool and have a wonderful week.

Esiri111:


That IS GOOD enough prove that I should stop cease to reply You after this coz you don't want to learn.
So If I tell you of My Friend in Lagos you'll tell me he doesn't exist coz you've neither seen him or felt him before.

Well aside I am student so leave the school stuff.

The book of Proverbs has a lot that can increase your thinking ability.


You cant learn from it coz telling you will lead to another line of arguement. coz it's sure above you.
But If you're sure I am wrong then You can do some Google research.

As I said before... You'll surely argue.
You cannot call a religion that encourage you to kill yourself and others coz you get some virgins an Ideal religion. Logically and Morally it IS unfair.
But I will surely call a religion that teaches that you should "Pray for your enemies and do GOOD to them that dispitefully use you" An Ideal One.
If you still don't believe That's your Problem.
But I will never reply You again.
You still don't know what I mean by "fly ".Its technology.

That's what You wish
I keep you beneath notice on this thread from now on.
Meanwhile I wish you HEAVEN, PEACE AND PROSPERITY.
Stay cool and have a wonderful week.

Mnnnn... This guy

1. Now let me ask you.. Is it not possible for you to lie or delusionally believe you have a friend in Lagos? That being said, if I have no substantial prove that you have a friend in Lagos I have the right not to believe you and I should be justified in doing that, weather the said friend actually exist or not.
BTW, if I tell you I have a friend in Lagos who has four horns and four hands and four eyes, will you believe me?
What's hard to understand here? You must b in hundred level then.
If after reading the book of proverb, the simple logic above is hard to grasp... Then why should I read a book that would make me a slow poke like....


2. You keep saying something is above me... Wise one sire, Google itself is a scientific feat, left for religion, there will be no Google. I can show you scientific feat but I bet you, you can't show me religious feat, no matter your excuse.

3. Now I might talk about school again... So your religion says 'pray for your enemies and do god to them that despise you', therefore its promised spiritual mansion is a fact. Why do you say Islam encourages killing? So because some christian pastors scam their members, that means Christianity encourages scamming?

Stay cool too bro... Pls study to be a better student.

frank317:


Mnnnn... This guy

1. Now let me ask you.. Is it not possible for you to lie or delusionally believe you have a friend in Lagos? That being said, if I have no substantial prove that you have a friend in Lagos I have the right not to believe you and I should be justified in doing that, weather the said friend actually exist or not.
BTW, if I tell you I have a friend in Lagos who has four horns and four hands and four eyes, will you believe me?
What's hard to understand here? You must b in hundred level then.
If after reading the book of proverb, the simple logic above is hard to grasp... Then why should I read a book that would make me a slow poke like....


2. You keep saying something is above me... Wise one sire, Google itself is a scientific feat, left for religion, there will be no Google. I can show you scientific feat but I bet you, you can't show me religious feat, no matter your excuse.

3. Now I might talk about school again... So your religion says 'pray for your enemies and do god to them that despise you', therefore its promised spiritual mansion is a fact. Why do you say Islam encourages killing? So because some christian pastors scam their members, that means Christianity encourages scamming?

Stay cool too bro... Pls study to be a better student.

Woman with “familiar spirits” must be stoned to death. Leviticus
20:27
“Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” Exodus 22:18
Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:
You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than
your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that
worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your
own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed
in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him.
Jude 5
Ok he said his own religion doesnt condone killing
this is just a taste.. if we start highlighting the killings ...choi

johnydon22:


Woman with “familiar spirits” must be stoned to death. Leviticus
20:27
“Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” Exodus 22:18
Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:
You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than
your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that
worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your
own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed
in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him.
Jude 5
Ok he said his own religion doesnt condone killing
this is just a taste.. if we start highlighting the killings ...choi

thanks my brother for that